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Open Thread - Week 16 Arizona @ 49ers

Gametime: 1pm Pacific, 4pm Eastern
Weather:  High: 59°F; Precipitation: 20%
Announcers: Ron Pitts, Jesse Palmer (Surprisingly good as a color guy)
Injury report
49ers
Probable: Anthony Adams (Knee)
Questionable: Derek Smith (Hamstring), Eric Johnson (Knee), Adam Snyder (Knee)

Cardinals
Probable: E. Green (illness), Shipp (Ribs)
Questionable: L. Davis (Personal), G. Hayes (Ribs)

And so the playoff push continues.  Both the 49ers and Seahawks will be playing afternoon games, but hopefully the team doesn't get distracted by this.  The game plan should be quite simple for today.  Run Frank Gore, hope for a few solid plays from Alex Smith, contain Edgerrin James.  If the 49ers do that I really think they win.  They can't affect the Seahawks game so it's just not worth worrying about.  Of course fans can follow the game tracker and worry enough for everyone involved.

Best Case Scenario
49ers 31 - Arizona 9: Frank Gore gashes through the Arizona defense putting up 150+ yards.  Alex Smith forces the Cardinals defense to play more straight up as he connects with Vernon Davis for 100+ yards and a pair of TDs.  The defense forces 3 Leinart INTs and Edgerrin James reverts to early season form.

Worst Case Scenario
Arizona 34 - 49ers 6: Alex Smith is unable to keep the Cardinals defense from stacking 8 in the box and Frank Gore is held to 60 yards as the offensive line struggles without Heitmann at center.  The defense is gashed by Edge and Leinart makes enough big plays to baffle the 49ers.

Prediction
49ers 24 - Arizona 14 - I'm not sure if I'm going to stick with making predictions but for now we'll go with it.  I don't think the 49ers are explosive enough to put up huge point totals, but they are good enough to get the job done, plain and simple.

***EDITOR'S NOTE*** And they're rocking the Super Bowl era throwback jerseys. I LOVE those!

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let's hope
that your prediction (or best case scenario) is right.  go niners!
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 12:19 PM PST reply actions  

yeah!!!
they got the throwbacks on!!!
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 1:08 PM PST reply actions  

throwbacks
but they haven't scored a TD with the throwbacks in the last two games that they've worn them.

by oaktowngold on Dec 24, 2006 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Gore
Gore already dominating, what a surprise
Frank Gore for President.

by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 1:09 PM PST reply actions  

damn
let's do it Joe
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

nice
ugly kick but good
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

What an ugly field goal
but ill take it
Frank Gore for President.

by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

Must-win
Ron Pitts is certainly emphasizing how much of a must-win this game is for us.  I think we get the point Ron
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

this is why
I hate fox sports
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Jesse Palmer
Anyone else find it halarious that he's doing color commentary after being cut by the team?
Frank Gore for President.

by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 1:15 PM PST reply actions  

Jesse Palmer
His first game as the color guy was the 49ers earlier this year and I've been pleasantly surprised by his commentary.  As the Sports Guy said earlier this month, Palmer has yet to be screwed up by the networks and he just says what he thinks and what he knows.  It'll be interesting to see if he keeps it up.
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 1:19 PM PST reply actions  

way to hold
bend but don't break
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 1:19 PM PST reply actions  

Offensive Line
They're definitely struggling early on.  Gore has busted some big gains, but Alex Smith is getting hurried.  Glad Jesse called out Kway-meeeeee!
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

hey guys
it helps when you tackle people
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 1:35 PM PST reply actions  

great
ANOTHER offensive lineman hurt
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

is there a curse
on this team?
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

come on vernon!
catch the f-in ball
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 1:46 PM PST reply actions  

So aggravating...
its tough to be a fan when they drop passes you know you yourself could make
Frank Gore for President.

by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 1:48 PM PST reply actions  

for sure
he let it get into his body... got to use the hands
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Gut check
This is most definitely gutcheck time.  This may or may not be a playoff time, but if they want to become one they better step up today.  The way they play the rest of this game is as important for next season as it is for this season.
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

Gore was wide open in the flat
and Smith throws into double coverage

this isn't looking good

Frank Gore for President.

by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 2:04 PM PST reply actions  

even rushing the whole team
we can't get to Leinart
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 2:10 PM PST reply actions  

finally
a sack!
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 2:11 PM PST reply actions  

The defense...
...should be ashamed. What happened to Nolan's suit? It seemed to have brought good luck.

by cheno on Dec 24, 2006 2:16 PM PST reply actions  

the suit
he was only given permission to wear it twice
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

RALLY NINER
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 2:19 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Rally Niners
We may have ourselves a rally mascot!!!  We'll see how the team responds to the Rally Niner.
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

WOW
That was unbelievable!  I can't believe he held onto that after such a big hit.  DAMN!  That's what he's out there for.  That's what we like to see!
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 2:21 PM PST reply actions  

How is that not a catch?
and you can't review a penalty what is this about?
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by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 2:23 PM PST reply actions  

Bobble
It's a catch but the replay official probably saw the ball bobble but didn't see if it hit the ground so they just want to double check.  The second view showed the ball never hitting the ground.
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Clock management
Can someone tell me why the clock ran down almost 20 seconds before calling a timeout?  Chris Myers said Nolan thought Smith didn't handle it well, so I assume it's a mistake of inexperience?
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 2:27 PM PST reply actions  

Why haven't we been passing to the flat???
Has anyone else been seeing how open Gore is on all these pass plays?
Frank Gore for President.

by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 2:28 PM PST reply actions  

You kno the games going bad when...
Your playing the Cardinals at home and they haven't punted ONCE in the first half.

Here's to hoping Leinart doesn't return...

Frank Gore for President.

by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 2:31 PM PST reply actions  

another pathetic first half
at least the rally niner brought us vernon's big catch
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 2:35 PM PST reply actions  

f-in Joe Buck
gag me

I hate Joe Buck

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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 2:38 PM PST reply actions  

OK Niners Nation:
we gotta win this game!! I blame myself for the 1st half, I was checking scores all morning. Lets do this...we need turnovers, good d, and points..fast!!! cmon our season is on the line!!
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 2:47 PM PST reply actions  

whooo
short
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

cmon D
do it!!!
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

omg
here it is. 4 and inches.
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

you're tellin me
we couldn't have done that against the rams?
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 2:51 PM PST reply actions  

i give up
we can't stop them. season over. i concede.
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 2:52 PM PST reply actions  

ok i'm back
ugh. we can still win. i guess.
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Big foul
That's huge...Gotta use that penalty to get the stop!  Oh and there's a false start!  Get the crowd into it and keep the penalties coming.
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 2:54 PM PST reply actions  

2 and 30
if they get a first down out of this, my spirit will be officially crushed
Frank Gore for President.

by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 2:54 PM PST reply actions  

Injuries
Man players are dropping like flies.  Need to get some offense going to give the defense a bit of rest.
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 2:56 PM PST reply actions  

what is this?
a punt?! i'm not familiar with this terminology
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 2:56 PM PST reply actions  

Theres still enough time left
I say we make it the Frank Gore show in the 2nd half.

We can't rely on Vernon "Stone Hands" Davis

ha ha, how soon you forget the good as a fan.

Amazing catch earlier, but hes just not dependable enough right now

Frank Gore for President.

by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 2:57 PM PST reply actions  

update:
s.d. 7, seattle 0 at the half....rivers is 1-9 with a td...LOL...L.T. with 102 yrds. hasselchoke 2 picks. lets go niners and chargers!
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

oh boy
3rd down again. yikeeesss
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 2:59 PM PST reply actions  

that was scary
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

YES!!!
That's what I'm talking about!!!!!!!
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

SWEET!
Just recovered a fumble AND throwbacks??

by noodler29 on Dec 24, 2006 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

HA HA
did you see number 24 on the niners get all excited and point the Arizona Cardinals way???
Frank Gore for President.

by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

RE: Ha Ha
Yea, gotta clear out your head big boy!
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

that was hilaaaarious!!
we got the ball!!!!! our season is alive!!
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

put it in the damn endzone
we need this, bad
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 3:06 PM PST reply actions  

word.
a td here would be hugeeeee!!!
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

too many times
this season we've gotten to the red zone and stalled.  not here!!!!
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

ohhhh
so close!
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 3:07 PM PST reply actions  

GORE!!!!!!!!
That's what this team is all about: GORE TD!!!!!!
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 3:08 PM PST reply actions  

frank!!!
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 3:08 PM PST reply actions  

D up
let's get it back
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 3:13 PM PST reply actions  

10-0 Seatle
Rivers has completed 2 passes, 1 of them a TD

and of course, LT is doing his thing

Lets get some D on this drive

Frank Gore for President.

by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 3:14 PM PST reply actions  

Trent Dilfer
I think signing Trent Dilfer to mentor Alex Smith was almost as important as any other acquisition.  He's brought a calming veteran presence and we haven't had to worry about him trying to stab Alex Smith in the back because he wants to get one last shot at glory.  He's a true professional.
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 3:15 PM PST reply actions  

agreed
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

no!!!!!
they had warner!! oh no!
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 3:16 PM PST reply actions  

damnit
2 straight 3rd down failures for the niners. now they can take a 2 possession lead.
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 3:19 PM PST reply actions  

haha
you beat me by milliseconds
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

ok
we need to block this field goal!!!!
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 3:20 PM PST reply actions  

that went in!?!!
wtf! challenge!
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 3:24 PM PST reply actions  

NOpe
that didn't go in
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by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 3:24 PM PST reply actions  

Huh??
Did that go over the top of the goalpost????
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 3:24 PM PST reply actions  

FG Challenge
Has a field goal ever been challenged??
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 3:24 PM PST reply actions  

Does over count?
bc it definately wasn't inside.  The reff on the left made the call and the other guy just went along
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by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 3:25 PM PST reply actions  

THAT...
IS HOW YOU RESPOND!
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 3:26 PM PST reply actions  

disaster
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 3:27 PM PST reply actions  

ok.
theres the seaspm
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 3:27 PM PST reply actions  

It seems like
every time the offense makes a big play Smith goes and throws a pick on the very next play

talk about a rally killer

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by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 3:29 PM PST reply actions  

i'm still confused.
how does arizona get 3 points for a missed field goal? shouldn't there be some controversy around this? what the fuck!? he missed the fuckin field goal! bullshit.
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 3:35 PM PST reply actions  

Total B.S.
Im sure the NFL will reveiw the call later and fine the officals

Lot of good that does us now, you just don't know what would happen with the momentum after the missed FG

Frank Gore for President.

by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 3:36 PM PST reply actions  

exactly.
sure the hicks return was big, but they still were thinking 2 scores at that point.
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

ok we still have time
let's put together a drive here
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 3:36 PM PST reply actions  

Big sack
That sack is huge...gotta get points on the board now.

And hopefully the NFL will address that field goal.  I'm just guessing it caught a little of the top of goalpost.  I wish it could have been challenged though.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 3:36 PM PST reply actions  

goodbye season
it was fun while it lasted
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 3:40 PM PST reply actions  

defense
Hold them to a field goal here and it's still only 2 possessions...Of course you actually have to score TDs to win games.
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeesh
They're doing everything they can to hand Arizona their 5th win.  Rather disheartening
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 3:40 PM PST reply actions  

the niners and refs just handed the game away
pitiful considering they should want this.
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 3:42 PM PST reply actions  

Not over yet
But still, quite ridiculous.  HOLD TO A FG!!!
Frank Gore for President.

by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 3:42 PM PST reply actions  

their only chance to win is if they block this
and return it for a td...lol
YEEEEEEEE!!!!

by jmefrisco on Dec 24, 2006 3:43 PM PST reply actions  

Sense of urgency?
They've got 3 timeouts left but when the clock is running I think they should use a little no-huddle.  Smith has looked rather good when they run the no-huddle.
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 3:50 PM PST reply actions  

huge play right here
gotta get this
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 3:51 PM PST reply actions  

Season
We can officially say, The Season Rests on This Play.  Whatever you do, don't throw it underneath.  Get it into the endzone even if it ends up a turnover.
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 3:52 PM PST reply actions  

Never mind
Forgot it wasn't 4th and goal.
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

still alive!
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 3:53 PM PST reply actions  

TD!!!!!!!
And the patient still has a pulse baby!
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 3:53 PM PST reply actions  

Look out for seatle though
they are down 6 and DRIVING in the 4th quarter
Frank Gore for President.

by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 3:54 PM PST reply actions  

DAMN
Seatle winning
Frank Gore for President.

by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 3:55 PM PST reply actions  

Just gotta take care of our own business
We actually wouldn't be eliminated with a Seattle win because of the wildcard.  But that doesn't matter.  We just gotta win.  First though we have to stop Seattle!  DE-FENSE!! DE-FENSE!! DE-FENSE!!
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 3:57 PM PST reply actions  

Edge's rushing numbers
While Edgerrin James has 100 yards today, you have to like that his per carry average is under 4.  Bend, but don't break containment.
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 3:59 PM PST reply actions  

Defensive stops
When you can't make the key stop you're not gonna win.  Of course that's pretty obvious
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 4:03 PM PST reply actions  

49ers=unclutch.
The INT, the fumble, the defense collapsing.

The team has many issues, and staying mentally in the game is one of them.

When you have 5 min to stop a team, and you kno they will be running and thowing short passes, and you can't stop them, you don't deserve to be in the playoffs.

Frank Gore for President.

by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 4:09 PM PST reply actions  

gotta draft defense
we need a pass rush, we need linebackers, and the secondary could use help also
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by wjackalope on Dec 24, 2006 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Hate to look at it this way but just think
Suppose Battle doesn't fumble after his reception, Arizona doesn't get that field goal

Suppose the refs don't blow the call, Arizona doesn't get that field goal

SF: 20, ARZ: 20

Frank Gore for President.

by InGoreWeTrust on Dec 24, 2006 4:11 PM PST reply actions  

Well...
You can suppose a lot of things, but the fact is we've lost against Green Bay and Arizona at home down the stretch. Unacceptable.

by cheno on Dec 24, 2006 4:13 PM PST reply actions  

JJ Stokes
I CAN NOT believe that JJ Stokes is appearing on The Point After on Fox. On slate for next week: The Jim Druckenmiller Hour, co-hosted by Rashaun Woods and Rasheed Marshall.
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by David Fucillo on Dec 24, 2006 4:31 PM PST reply actions  

Next year...
...should be fun to watch. If they put some money into the defense, we have to have a at least a shot at getting to the Super Bowl, right?

by cheno on Dec 24, 2006 5:38 PM PST reply actions  

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