Week 7 - 49ers at New York Giants - Open Thread
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Date: October 21, 2007
Time: 10:00AM PST, 1:00pm EST
Location: Giants Stadium, Meadowlands
Weather: 68°F, 7mph wind, and sunny
Injury Report: SF: Keith Lewis Doubtful; Vernon Davis, Michael Lewis, Tully Banta-Cain, Alex Smith Probable
NYG: Plaxico Burress, Brandon Jacobs, Steve Smith Questionable; Derrick Ward Probable
ScoresAndOdds.com Spread: Giants -9; Over/Under 39; Money Line SF +350, NYG -450
TV: FOX (Channel 2 in San Francisco)
Announcers: Matt Vasgersian, Daryl Johnston, Tony Siragusa
Radio: 1050 AM/107.7 FM
Niners Nation Prediction: 49ers win 17-10
Feel free to enter your predictions HERE
And so after a bye week, the 49ers return to the field with Vernon Davis playing and Alex Smith not. They spent much of the off time trying to solve the offenses woes. Now we get to see what comes of that. The offense was performing best in the last game The Disease played in, so hopefully he can bring back some of that explosiveness.
I've gone with a relatively low-scoring prediction and think yet again, the only way for the 49ers to win is to shut down the Giants offense. Keep an eye on Jeremy Shockey as he could definitely be a guy who makes things happen for the Giants. We lack a shutdown cover linebacker, so it'll take some big time team work to keep him from tearing our defense apart.
GO NINERS!
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Predictions link goes to Week 5
As I look at this game I know that everything says that the Niners will get creamed, but remember:
- A lot of the Niners' offensive problems has to do with their conservative strategy. Two plays led to a TD against Baltimore. I don't expect many double reverses, but I expect a little more excitement to the offense this week. Maybe someone will figure out that the shotgun is good to keep the QB upright in the face of a fierce rush, quick screens and slants, etc. Ashley runs deep. In short, someone will rediscover the forward pass.
- The Niners have a good defense. They've played bend but don't break. A little pressure on Eli can go a long way. As good as they've played they haven't put much pressure. Here's another thing. Not too many turnovers so far. Throw a few interceptions and fumble recoveries and the Niners could find themselves in a really good position.
- Nolan knows what he's been doing hasn't worked. There are problems with the O line, the receivers are very ordinary, but you have to hang these losses on the coach staff and the coaching philosophy. Either Nolan changes or he gets closer to getting fired, this year or next. His total control of the offensive next year is already in jeopardy. Nolan will change or he will pay for it.
That's what I'm telling myself while I'm mixing the onion dip.
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 8:48 AM PDT reply actions
what to expect from this game
by MD49er on Oct 21, 2007 10:02 AM PDT reply actions
Special teams!
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:04 AM PDT reply actions
facial hair
by MD49er on Oct 21, 2007 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
c'mon, you bums!
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:10 AM PDT reply actions
at least we don't need to cover Ward
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:13 AM PDT reply actions
Someone let me know
by MD49er on Oct 21, 2007 10:13 AM PDT reply actions
damn it
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:14 AM PDT reply actions
loser!
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:15 AM PDT reply actions
IT's OK
by MD49er on Oct 21, 2007 10:15 AM PDT reply actions
Didn't see the kick coming!
by howtheyscored on Oct 21, 2007 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Well he was wide open
defense
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
reverse on kickoff
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:18 AM PDT reply actions
Gore is officially back!
Unfortunately
by howtheyscored on Oct 21, 2007 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
fuck
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:20 AM PDT reply actions
Okay, let's see the new offense
Okay, second down wasn't so hot.
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 10:20 AM PDT reply actions
Jesus.
Time for an Andy Lee
3 and out
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 10:22 AM PDT reply actions
the whole line collapsed
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh
it's gonna be a looooooong day
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:24 AM PDT reply actions
having their way
I wouldn't put the sack on all Staley.
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 10:25 AM PDT reply actions
Niners Nation Prediction: 49ers win 17-10
On the road with dilfer starting?
Its okay to think the 9ers may not win fooch, I promise.
Maybe the hyphen was in the wrong place.
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Sigh...
by MD49er on Oct 21, 2007 10:26 AM PDT reply actions
If you mean what I think you mean
by howtheyscored on Oct 21, 2007 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey
What gives?
tie
by David Fucillo on Oct 21, 2007 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Why do I get the feeling...
And that's how you fall for a screen 101
Uh
Does it look like the Niners' D has lost heart? Or are they just down because they're getting their asses handed to them?
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 10:28 AM PDT reply actions
Smith
The Giants are just doing whatever they want
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:28 AM PDT reply actions
YES!!!!!!!!!!!
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:30 AM PDT reply actions
delaying the inevitable!!!!!
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:30 AM PDT reply actions
The Giants Must Not
We got them where we want them.
Now we'll get 'em.
Hitting Lelie in stride, yeah, I can see it.
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 10:31 AM PDT reply actions
about the tie
offense!
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:32 AM PDT reply actions
You see?
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 10:32 AM PDT reply actions
hurry up
VD was totally held on that play
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:33 AM PDT reply actions
hey
by MD49er on Oct 21, 2007 10:33 AM PDT reply actions
Even that would have been okay
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 10:33 AM PDT reply actions
And while it was an illegal shift
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 10:34 AM PDT reply actions
Dilfer thre a total floater there
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:34 AM PDT reply actions
he also "threW" one
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
penalties
New plan!
No more passing!
just a few more late hits
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:35 AM PDT reply actions
I amend my statement..
Some shotgun too
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 10:36 AM PDT reply actions
Thanks God
by MD49er on Oct 21, 2007 10:37 AM PDT reply actions
Is it me
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 10:38 AM PDT reply actions
good to see the team not prepared
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:39 AM PDT reply actions
I don't think you can use a Timeout
we made it!
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:41 AM PDT reply actions
motion
GORE!
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:42 AM PDT reply actions
wait a second
WOW
Dilfer
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:43 AM PDT reply actions
and fumblin
by David Fucillo on Oct 21, 2007 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
how was that not a first down?
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:44 AM PDT reply actions
Go For It
Running with three guys holding your ankles.
The O line still seems to suck butt.
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 10:44 AM PDT reply actions
gonna be close
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:45 AM PDT reply actions
little too close to call
that shows some guts
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:45 AM PDT reply actions
raising the roof?
YES!!!!!!!!!!!
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:46 AM PDT reply actions
BATTLE!!!
Battle
THAT'S HOW YOU NAIL THE XP!
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:46 AM PDT reply actions
Heitmann is still screwing up.
Oh, and we're in the lead 7-6.
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 10:47 AM PDT reply actions
49ers aren't rolling over
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:47 AM PDT reply actions
I like it very much
by David Fucillo on Oct 21, 2007 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
getting the ball back
Quick review
What's not working?
They are throwing the ball, thank God. That's working. The runs to the right seem to be working.
The center of the o line is still caving in. Is it Heitmann or Allen? Or Smiley?
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 10:49 AM PDT reply actions
drive
by David Fucillo on Oct 21, 2007 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
That drive
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:52 AM PDT reply actions
3 and out!
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:53 AM PDT reply actions
WOW
Amazing
vince vaughn
mother fucker
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:56 AM PDT reply actions
tell me you didn't see a fuck up coming
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Eli should just stop throwing to the RBs
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:58 AM PDT reply actions
RBs
or some sack
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
FUCK
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:03 AM PDT reply actions
we have Dilfer
My fault
He just thinks he's sticking to the game plan.
by howtheyscored on Oct 21, 2007 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
FREE
stop needed
That timeout might cost the Giants
SHOW ME THE
Tomsula
Yeah
by howtheyscored on Oct 21, 2007 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey
Nice work D
OH MY LORD
I figured out the problem!
by howtheyscored on Oct 21, 2007 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Rookie
by David Fucillo on Oct 21, 2007 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
25 TD passes in 6 and a half games
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
FG anybody?
Hey, I got up to make an omelette for breakfast
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 11:11 AM PDT reply actions
Worst fear
we just don't block anymore
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:14 AM PDT reply actions
ughh
I'm not so sure about that
by David Fucillo on Oct 21, 2007 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
come on...
And down goes Dilfter!
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 11:15 AM PDT reply actions
Staley
HofF
by David Fucillo on Oct 21, 2007 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
that may be true but...
damn
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:16 AM PDT reply actions
RW McDipshit
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:17 AM PDT reply actions
late hit
I blame you
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
no pressure, no coverage
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:23 AM PDT reply actions
FG?
Ward couldn't catch that
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 11:24 AM PDT reply actions
time left?
Hail mary
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:27 AM PDT reply actions
Whose false start was that?
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 11:28 AM PDT reply actions
Well, that will help Frank's stats.
Well, at least they're trying something different.
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 11:29 AM PDT reply actions
Damn it, VD!
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:44 AM PDT reply actions
EXTEND YOUR ARMS
Nice drop
VD drops the ball
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 11:44 AM PDT reply actions
LELIE!!!!!!!!
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:45 AM PDT reply actions
and of course he immeidately fucks up
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:45 AM PDT reply actions
Terrible
LELIE!!! FUCK YES. Dumb penalty though
ok never mind :)
nice step up in the pocket by Dilf
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:45 AM PDT reply actions
LELIE SIGHTING
I think he spiked the ball
it's the new rule this year
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
FLAG!!!!!!!!!
HOW IS THAT NOT A PENALTY!
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:46 AM PDT reply actions
Ashley Lelie!
oh, it's just an illegal spike. Thank god it wasn't holding.
Hmm. Delanie didn't come back.
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 11:46 AM PDT reply actions
can't they read the blitz!
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:47 AM PDT reply actions
another huge penalty on NYG
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:47 AM PDT reply actions
Personal fouls baby!
Out of field goal range?
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 11:48 AM PDT reply actions
fucking christ
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:48 AM PDT reply actions
I don't know what to say...
and the offensive line
by David Fucillo on Oct 21, 2007 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
look what happens
audible or something
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:48 AM PDT reply actions
that was nobody
by David Fucillo on Oct 21, 2007 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
6 guys can't block 7
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
OC
I guess
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 11:50 AM PDT reply actions
Penalty....shocking
Shaun Hill sighting?
holding
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:53 AM PDT reply actions
OH.MY.GOD
another bullshit call
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:54 AM PDT reply actions
49ers play like a bunch of high schoolers
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:54 AM PDT reply actions
offense goes back into its shell
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
That'll cut into Lelie's average per catch
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 11:55 AM PDT reply actions
Just don't know...
Dilfer sucks!
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:56 AM PDT reply actions
fuck, I hate this
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:56 AM PDT reply actions
Hey, another attempt to Lelie
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 11:57 AM PDT reply actions
this field sucks
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 11:57 AM PDT reply actions
About time they make a call against the Giants
food
So here's my final diagnosis on the O-Line
Otherwise, fine. Even Smiley's more or less out of my doghouse.
C'mon D
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 12:00 PM PDT reply actions
In a week or two
All they'll have to do is replace the O line.
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 12:00 PM PDT reply actions
SHOW ME THE
B-MOORE!!!!!!
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 12:01 PM PDT reply actions
BLOCKED PUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 12:02 PM PDT reply actions
Pretenders
I love the Niners, but this season has been very disappointing. Our offense is as bad as it has ever been...one of the most pathetic offenses I've ever seen. And as the season is dragging on I am really starting to doubt Nolan's ability to take this team to the next level. Our offensive ineptitude was obvious from the first game, the team needed major adjustments, not minor tweaks, and Nolan has done nothing impressive.
Sorry for the rant but it seems like we are saying the same exposed weaknesses EVERY WEEK. This isn't solely a personnel issue...its on Nolan.
by Call It The Throw on Oct 21, 2007 12:02 PM PDT reply actions
Brandon Moore!
Isn't blocking through the end zone a safety?
Yes!
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 12:02 PM PDT reply actions
SAFETY!
We just need 8 more of those now.
Oh wait
by howtheyscored on Oct 21, 2007 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahoy!
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 12:03 PM PDT reply actions
C'mon
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 12:05 PM PDT reply actions
thank you, Joe Staley
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 12:06 PM PDT reply actions
Didn't Dockery have a hold on Lelie there?
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 12:08 PM PDT reply actions
Our O-line blows
by Call It The Throw on Oct 21, 2007 12:09 PM PDT reply actions
You just can't go with seven step drops
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 12:12 PM PDT reply actions
hey look, a flag on the Giants
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 12:26 PM PDT reply actions
uh
I want to see another connection to Lelie. If he's on the field Gore gets more space. If Dilfer connects with him everything else opens.
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 12:26 PM PDT reply actions
Jennings out, Snyder in
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 12:27 PM PDT reply actions
Baas in, Smiley out
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 12:27 PM PDT reply actions
Snyder in for Jennings.
And Baas in for Smiley.
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 12:28 PM PDT reply actions
FUCK YOU, DILFER
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 12:29 PM PDT reply actions
Another thing
I go to notre dame and grew up in SF
by ckirby on Oct 21, 2007 12:31 PM PDT reply actions
this game makes me ill
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 12:34 PM PDT reply actions
D. Smith
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 12:34 PM PDT reply actions
time to run out the clock
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 12:39 PM PDT reply actions
I don't all that much
And I'm glad to see the offense has rediscovered the pass game. Dilfer has made wrong reads two interceptions. Dilfer will be back on the bench soon.
And Gore is running great to the right.
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 12:41 PM PDT reply actions
Not impressed
I read earlier a post where someone mentioned Gore's "great" run to end the first half. When you run it up the gut from deep within your own hald of the field on 3rd and 10+ with 6 seconds left in the half, the defense is going to give you at least ten yards to work with. That was not a "promising" run.
by Call It The Throw on Oct 21, 2007 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
And its no longer on Hostler
I'm very disappointed in Nolan. Out team is officially bad.
by Call It The Throw on Oct 21, 2007 12:42 PM PDT reply actions
Bad protection, critical penalties
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 12:47 PM PDT reply actions
Nice punt
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 12:48 PM PDT reply actions
33-9
by Bob In Pacifica on Oct 21, 2007 12:56 PM PDT reply actions
Vasgersian
Shaun Hill
garbage time!
by Nosetackle Supreme on Oct 21, 2007 1:05 PM PDT reply actions
Whatever you say about that game
Woo-Woo!
by howtheyscored on Oct 21, 2007 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions

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