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Niners Nation Scouting Report: Jay Moore


Our first three scouting reports covered players who could potentially be taken with the 11th overall pick.  While there are other options at that spot to discuss, I wanted to look into some later options for the team.  It was while watching the Senior Bowl that Jay Moore, a defensive end from Nebraska, popped onto my radar screen.  He had 3 sacks as the North defensive line dominated the South offensive line.  As a defensive end, Moore would be undersized in the NFL.  However, with the 49ers switching to the 3-4 on a more full time basis, his potential athleticism could make him quite an asset on the outside.

I had Jon over at Corn Nation, the SB Nation Huskers blog, provide an overview of Moore.  Here's what he had to say:

Jay Moore - Nebraska Defensive End

Over the past few years, Nebraska has quietly become the NFL's supplier of high-power defensive ends. Many people know the name Grant Wistrom as
he played in Super Bowls in 2000, 2002, and 2006. Along with him there are three other former Husker defensive end starters in the NFL - Mike Rucker (Carolina Panthers), Kyle Vanden Bosch (Tennessee Titans), and Chris Kelsay (Buffalo Bills).  In addition, two more are backups - Trevor Johnson (New York Jets), and Benard Thomas (Atlanta Falcons practice squad).

Nebraska defensive end Jay Moore is one of a handful of Huskers expected to be taken in the NFL draft. Projections currently have him going in the third or fourth round.

Background

Moore is from Elkhorn, Nebraska, which is near Omaha, with a population of around 7,600 people. He played fullback and defensive end in high school, earning all-state honors in both football and basketball. During his junior season he led his class level in rushing but his senior season was cut short by injury - a torn ACL. He is majoring in secondary education at Nebraska.

Strengths and Weaknesses

One key word to describe Moore is 'potential'. He came into the 2006 season under Adam Carriker's shadow. He finished the season by making a name for himself at the Senior bowl where he had three sacks for 21 yards lost, and forced two fumbles. Moore has good speed - we'll find out how much at the upcoming NFL combine - and like other Husker defensive ends, a great motor. He plays smart, but there is some question about his ability to shed blockers and his lateral movement. He has a good burst off the ball, and made a lot of plays behind the line in his college career. In 2005, Nebraska was first in NCAA Division IA in tackles for loss and sacks. In 2006, Nebraska's defense suffered from lack of depth in the defensive secondary - the Huskers played a soft defense so they weren't as aggressive as they were in 2005.

Moore's biggest weakness is his size at 6'4", 275 pounds. Teams using a 4-3 alignment will need him to beef up to play the defensive end position. In a 3-4, Moore may be a better fit in the outside linebacker position where his pass-rushing technique and speed will make him or break him. Tampa 2 defenses will like Moore's speed and ability to play to the outside as a defensive end.

Character

There is no indication of any character problems for Jay Moore. There's no history of any type of problems dating all the way back through high school. Moore is a good student, with multiple selections to the Big 12 honor roll.

Thanks again to Corn Nation for putting this together.  Personally, I think Moore being in the shadow of Carriker reminds me a little of how Manny Lawson was in the shadow of Mario Williams.  Maybe the less known guy helped make the bigger name that much better.  Also, it's possible the weakness of his size could in fact turn into a strength at the next level if he's moved to outside linebacker.  It's just one more thing to consider over the next two months.

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Totally contingent
on Adalius Thomas.  If we sign Thomas theres no point in drafting Moore.  If he's not big enough for for a 4-3 DE then he's definately too small for a 3-4 DE.  But if we miss out on Thomas, which I'm hoping we don't, Moore looks alright for one of our 4th round picks.

by methodrampage on Feb 12, 2007 11:19 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Beef up?
I'm curious about when 275 was considered TOO small to be a 4-3 DE.  From what I've seen, 275 seems to be an ideal weight for a 4-3 DE.  Not small enough to get thrown around, but big enough to take on blockers and still move.

In a 3-4, wouldn't 275 be sort of big for a OLB? I think the 3-4 OLB position has to be the most versatile defensive position in that scheme.  They have to be powerful/big enough to take on blockers and blitz, but at the same time, they have to be able to do some man-to-man.  At 275, unless he's packing a V-10 for a heart, he'd seem to be kind of big to play OLB.

by sfgfan on Feb 12, 2007 11:23 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Size
Maybe they work on bringing his weight down a little bit to boost his speed?  This wouldn't be like a boxer trying to shed weight rapidly.  Rather, if they drafted him he'd have 3-4 months to get into the right shape.  And even if we sign Adalius Thomas, LB depth would be a plus, considering the injury issues the team has faced.
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by Fooch on Feb 12, 2007 11:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Depends on the player
Adalius Thomas is 270 pounds, and he can move out to CB or S with ease.  It really depends on the player, their athleticism, and quickness.

by gatling on Feb 12, 2007 2:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

On linebackers
Lavar Arrington was released by the Giants. He has some character issues, but when healthy, he can flat out play. Al Davis will probably try to run him down because he's a "bad boy", but something worth considering. You can never have enough depth and Arrington would be a big addition.
He chose a simpler procedure. He had the finger amputated above the third knuckle. He didn't miss a down.

by 42Blackout on Feb 12, 2007 3:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Arrington
He'd certainly bring some serious help to the pass rush.  The biggest problem is that he tends to play out of control and is almost like a bull seeing the matador.  See QB, run after QB.  It's not terrible, but I think Nolan is looking for a more disciplined defensive style.
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by Fooch on Feb 12, 2007 3:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude he's a Berzerker LB
that's why I kinda like him.
He chose a simpler procedure. He had the finger amputated above the third knuckle. He didn't miss a down.

by 42Blackout on Feb 12, 2007 3:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Leapin lavar
I'm totally a fan of Leapin Lavar and would love him on the team.  I just don't see it being a move Nolan would make because of the discipline issue.  But maybe we'll get lucky.
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by Fooch on Feb 12, 2007 3:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Nolan's interest, or lack-there-of
Nolan's thoughts on Arrington (found here):
"I think perception and reality are a little askew on that one," Nolan said of Arrington being a great player.

"He's OK," Nolan said. "I think they have some other guys playing pretty good in front of him, so they made a change."

I'm not exactly sure what the source of the quote was, but it sounds like a Nolan kind of "assessment" and subsequent comment.

by sfgfan on Feb 12, 2007 4:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow
thats a pretty candid comment. Guess we know where Nolan lies on this.
He chose a simpler procedure. He had the finger amputated above the third knuckle. He didn't miss a down.

by 42Blackout on Feb 12, 2007 4:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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