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2007 NFL Draft - Day 2 Review


Well after almost 19 hours over 2 days, the 49ers 2007 draft and my live blog is complete.  We managed to get a little bit of everything, while I managed to avoid going completely insane with around-the-clock draft coverage.  I want to thank everybody that visited the site over the last 2 days as we shattered all previous records for site traffic.  Naturally I chose the longest draft ever to start live-blogging, but we all made it through without being committed (yet).

I'll do an all-encompassing review later tomorrow afternoon/evening (going to the Warriors' game tonight), but we'll do a quick review Day 2 for now.  More will come later tomorrow when I get some time and have detoxed from football for a day.  If you missed it, we reviewed Day 1 late last night.

The second day saw the team reach in some areas, and fill some depth issues at running back, linebacker and in the secondary.  There was some spirited debate over many of the Day 2 picks, but I think we landed some guys who could contribute right away as back-ups and could be pieces of the puzzle down the road.  My assessment DOES NOT include the trade for Darrell Jackson.  I'm simply looking at the players we drafted in grading the draft for now.  The all-encompassing review will include the Darrell Jackson trade.

Jay Moore, Defense End, University of Nebraska - I've been a fan since the Senior Bowl and I bet his performance then helped convinced the 49ers to take him, considering it helped in evaluating Willis.  Moore is going to trim down and be an OLB with the ability to move down to defensive end in pass rush situations if need be.  Even at his current size he's been solid in dropping back into pass coverage from the defensive end location.  Many here wanted Soliai but I think we could have done a lot worse than Moore.

DaShon Goldson, Safety, University of Washington - It seems like Goldson struggled this season but bounced back late.  He'll give us some depth at safety and appears to be able to play cornerback on occasion as well.  We've got excellent starters in our secondary but we definitely need some extra bodies for passing situations and if injuries creep up.

Joe Cohen, Defensive Tackle, University of Florida - We all seem to agree that this was a reach considering some of the talent on the board.  I think the teamis clearly happy going into the season with Aubrayo Franklin and Isaac Sopoago as your 1-2 punch at the nose tackle spot.  Cohen makes the team but I don't expect a lot of production.  I think it's the worst pick of the draft for us.

Tarell Brown, Cornerback, University of Texas - This is one of my favorite picks.  Brown and McDonald could be 2 steals for us a few years down the road.  McDonald had injury issues, Brown has character issues.  However, I trust that Nolan is not worried about long term issues from Brown.  As he said during the Trey Wingo interview, if the team had character issues with a guy, he's taken off the board.  This is a guy with Day 1 talent and if he can keep his head on straight, it's a steal in Round 5.

Thomas Clayton, Running Back, Kansas State University - I personally wanted DeShawn Wynn with this pick, but Clayton is growing on me.  If he doesn't work out, it's not a big loss as a 6th round pick.  If he does work out, the upside is quite solid as a backup with Michael Robinson.  Hicks is the primary backup for now, but I think Robinson is clearly the guy they want to move ahead of him on the depth chart.  He's got the size and I think Nolan's the type of coach that can keep him in line.  Of course I'm sure that people said that about Shanahan when he drafted Maurice Clarett.  So we'll see.

Overall Grade - I'd give Day 2 a C with the potential to move up to a B or down to a D or F.  We took some gambles and we won't know how they pay off (or don't pay off) for some time.  When we look back, if 3 of these 5 picks cashes in for us, we could be creating some incredible depth.  However, the good news is that as late picks, if they don't cash in, we don't lose out too badly.  We could have done better, but we also could have done significantly worse, thus the C grade.

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After a great day 1...
... I'm disappointed with day 2.  I really dislike the Moore pick, for reasons I've stated before.  The 49ers have so many duplicates of him that I can hardly see him coming in and making much of an impact this year or next.

Haralson was originally a pass-rushing DE in college, and has transitioned into a OLB for Nolan and Co.  Green was also considered a pass rushing DE (albiet small).  Lawson was the pass-rushing DE opposite the monster known as Mario Williams.  Brandon Moore played DE in the nickel for the 49ers last year and came up with sacks.  The team really didn't need another guy like this group, as they're all solid, young, and are under contract for quite some time.

I don't mind most of the remaining picks.  I think Goldson could be a solid FS (as he has decent coverage skills, he's just kind of slow).  Speed isn't everything when you're a safety though.

I think Brown and Clayton are both very-low risk, but potentially decent rewards with the last two picks.  Clayton will probably start off behind Hicks and Robinson, having to earn his way up the board.  Brown will probably start off as the 5th corner, allowing Hudson to move back to FS.

The Cohen pick has me indifferent.  He could go either way, and won't hurt the team if he goes south.  With Fields, Oliver, Douglas, and Young there this season, I can't see Cohen supplanting any of them on the DE depth chart.  The need for a DE to replace BY could always be addressed next season.

I'm just so bummed that Soliai isn't a 49er.  Next to Willis, he was the guy I was hoping the 49ers would end up with most.  Bah, I guess I should take solace in that the 49ers got a WR that is probably better than any of the second-tier WRs in the draft with a 4th round pick.  It's also awesome that the 49ers ended up with Staley and Willis in the first.  

I think Staley could supplant Kwame fairly easily.  Adding up to the roster would also allow the team to train Adam Snyder as a potential replacement for Justin Smiley or Larry Allen at guard, rather than having to play tackle.  I'm not too worried about the O-line at all.  Even with the potential departures of Allen, Smiley and Harris, the 49ers now have capable players waiting in the wings in Staley, Snyder and Baas (who was a second round pick previously).

Bah, Jay Moore over big Paul Soliai?  Bah, indeed.

by sfgfan on Apr 29, 2007 3:58 PM PDT   0 recs

Yep
I pretty much agree that day 2 was a disappointment. A lot of reaches and a lot of guys that don't offer something that we already have, ecspecially Cohen and Moore. Outside of the Djax trade which was a great deal, I would probably trade the 5 guys we drafted in day 2 for Soliai, DeOssie, and Wendling. Cohen and Clayton may have gone undrafted.   After a Day 1 A grade i would give Day 2 a C-.

by enut21 on Apr 29, 2007 4:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Day 2 disappointment
I must say I came away thoroughly unimpressed with today's draft picks.  We didn't grab a true NT, making a big mistake in taking Jay Moore instead of Paul Soliai.  I won't go into much detail on why I'm against the Moore pick, sfgfan did a very good job disecting that pick and why it was unnecessary.  I will say that if OLB was a need, it wasn't a pass rushing type we needed, but a 1st and 2nd down run defender.  By passing on Soliai, we missed out on the only true NT in the draft on Day 2.  

Goldson and Cohen as our other Round 4 picks don't excite me either.  Both are more risk/reward picks in my mind, and we're just not at a stage now where we can be taking guys like that.  We're not a team that is set at nearly every position like the Chargers or even the Ravens of the last few years.  With the number of picks we had, there was a very real opportunity to add depth in the form of players who could come in and contribute right away, we didn't get that.

The trade for D-Jax is probably the only thing keeping me from rating this a D grade Day 2.  Adding a #1 caliber receiver for a 4th round pick is a very good move, and we can only hope he'll be a good influence on Hill, Lelie, and Battle.  Jackson should make things easier on Davis, Smith, and even Gore by forcing defenses to account for him at all times, something we couldn't say for our receivers this year.

If I could go back and make today's picks, I think our draft would look something like this:

#104 Paul Soliai
#126 Josh Beekman
#135 Tarell Brown
#147 Kolby Smith
#186 Prescott Burgess

Since that can't happen, I'll have to trust that Nolan and Co. know what they're doing, but after such a strong Day 1 this was certainly a let down.  One silver lining for me, from what I've seen is Jared Zabransky went undrafted.  I'd like to see him signed as an UDFA for our 3rd QB spot.  I think he can develop into a solid #2 man in year or two, especially with Dilfer around to help.

Houshamazilly.....Championship

by gatling on Apr 29, 2007 5:33 PM PDT   0 recs

Zabransky...
... is definitely a better option than Hill.

by sfgfan on Apr 29, 2007 5:43 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Dito
Jay Moore?  He is going to slim down to play OLB for who? Maybe we have underestimated franklin as a big time NT with ICE  Nolan must feel that these guys can handle the load.  I would have love to picked up Branch latter but I may be in the minority.  WE still have some unanswered questions on our d-line and we did not address it this draft. IMO.
  WE GOT WILLIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by mississippininer on Apr 29, 2007 7:02 PM PDT   0 recs

well
After Willis I wasn't a huge fan of our day 1 picks and wheelings and dealings, and I feel the same way most of you do about today's picks.  So overall I'm not all that pleased with this draft.  The D-Jax acquisition makes it somewhat better and time will tell about how the rest of these guys pan out (as well as the guys we passed on).  
Bring back the classic Uni's!

by wjackalope on Apr 29, 2007 7:24 PM PDT   0 recs

Day 2 picks
I wasn't that impressed with our day 2 picks, except for Brown, who is a 2nd round talent with character issues so he dropped, but I trust Nolan to keep him in line so he could turn out to be a good player and a starter in this league. Most of the other picks were reaches in my estimation and the Clayton picks makes no sense to me as there were certainly better players with fewer question marks available at that spot, though unlike Brown, he has question marks are on the field, i.e., work ethic and coachability, which worry me more than his off the field trouble with the law (misdemeanor, not felony).

The best use of a pick today was getting Jackson for the 4th rounder. He's only 28 and though he has 3 more years on his deal, I don't think that will kill us long term as we have lots of cap room. (apparently, the 49ers reworked his contract, but the details aren't available yet.)

However, all of these day 2 picks are supposed to fill out our roster and add depth to the team and we realistically shouldn't expect to get a bunch of starters from this group. For every low round pick like Terrell Davis and Tom Brady there are a 100 guys who never make the slightest impact in the NFL. If these guys can simply be quality reserves and step up when called on here or there and be professional, then I'll be satisfied.

With the overall draft, I was hoping we get at least one more starter on the defensive side in the 2nd round, preferably the interior line, but getting Staley pleases me because we got a Kwame replacement who may very well be starting by the middle of the season, and I wasn't expecting that, so it was a pleasant surprise.

Bring back Eddie D.

by nostocksjustbonds on Apr 29, 2007 8:45 PM PDT   0 recs

ill tell you what
This is the closest i've ever followed the draft and I think it made me more disappointed because i wanted a couple guys really bad.

The D-jax trade helps us out and is a good value but i dont want a WR corp like this.....its like we went to a garage sale and bought a bunch of receivers....D-Jax is ok but at the end of the day he is a receiver that we got from a team in the division for a 4th round pick....he must not be that great although a good value....i just dont want to cheer for him....ive been cheering against him for however long up to this point

Battle i like but hes a posession receiver that isnt going to break too manny huge plays

Lelie is on his last life before he is officially considered a flop.

I really hope hill turns out and i admit that i'm worried because i dont have the greatest respect for the Pac 10

I know we traded away our first rounder next year for staley but in the second round there were a ton of players sitting there that had first round potential....We could have taken Kahlil, Ugoh, Jarrett, Smith, Leonard, or Rice and i would have been a lot happier....Colts are gonna have at best the 30th pick next year and we could have gotten a homerun receiver like Rice or Jarrett......These guys have the best two pairs of hands in the draft outside of johnson.......a lot of you know i'm in love with Rice but jarrett could have done too....A big receiver is what our team is missing and it would have been nice to cheer for a big young homerun hitting receiver...I think Rice is the most talented in teir two.....He would have been a top 20 pick next year which we wont be in the top 20 with the colts pick....it pisses me off he went to the damn vikings who maybe have the worst QB situation in the nfl...goodluck sidney and hopefully they wont ruin you.

I also really wanted Josh Gattis and we could have gotten him way later than he was projected....

The DE depth was needed since our starters are older and we need to get players to audition for the future.  I'm not a fan of the Cohen pick.  

I know a lot of people wanted Soliai but i had Jay Moore on my list....he's got a motor that Nolan loves so I saw it coming....plus i think we have ok depth a DT already....

Brown allows us a dime back shape until harris calls it quits.....Strickland and tucker are avg at best and hudson can move back to safety if that's best.....i kind of wanted david irons

Thomas Clayton is something i'm not gonna question..especially after frank gore turned out so sweet and i questioned that.....hopefully he can pound the rock on the goaline cause we need that.....hicks can be the third down back that can catch...leaving robinson as a bust.....i dont think he'll ever make it but i know some of you like him....he doesnt do anything well though

by Qbgetter13 on Apr 29, 2007 9:49 PM PDT   0 recs

4th round pick?
Yes we dealt a 4th round pick, but I don't think that is the way to judge him.  If healthy I think he's a legit #1 for us.  Moss went for a 4th rounder because of attitude issues.  Jackson is a guy who could catch 80+ passes, put up 1100+ yards and double digit TDs.
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by Fooch on Apr 29, 2007 10:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah.
I don't know what you see wrong with having Jackson, QBgetter.  The guy can be a #1, as long as he stays healthy.  With all of the depth the 49ers have, its likely he could get rotated in and out on certain packages to keep him fresh, and in turn, potentially healthier.

Jackson, Lelie, Battle.  Thats a solid 1-2-3.  Factor in a playmaker like Hill, and the 49ers have a solid group of four wideouts.  There is also V.Davis, who may be faster than all four of those guys, who can wreak havoc on defenses.

Couple all of those passing options with Frank Gore in the backfield and the 49ers have probably one of the most diverse offenses in the league.  San Diego doesn't have an offense that is as potentially dynamic.

by sfgfan on Apr 29, 2007 10:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

SD
Although adding that 6'7 tight end could make even MORE ridiculous mismatches alongside Gates...some filthy 2-tight end sets.
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by Fooch on Apr 29, 2007 10:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Potential X-factor
Delanie Walker is also available for the 49ers.  He was drafted as a wideout and made a solid transition to TE during last preseason.  Injury slowed him last season, but he shows tons of promise.  If he can keep showing that playmaking ability he had last year, he could provide the 49ers with an option where they could go 3 wide, and 2 TE, with Walker playing off the line and Davis split in the slot (or coming out of the backfield).

by sfgfan on Apr 29, 2007 10:30 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

2 TEs
I'd love to see them use Davis in the backfield every so often.  I want to see him all over the field in every game.  In every game he should line up in the slot, out on the end, in the backfield and in the traditional spot on the line.  Just keep creating mismatches like crazy.
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by Fooch on Apr 29, 2007 10:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

OT
BTW, that was a great Warriors game no?  Sat through every minute on the tube.

by sfgfan on Apr 29, 2007 10:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Was there baby
Just spectacular.  W's are America's bandwagon team du jour.  If they complete the upset it'll be interesting to see how they do in the 2nd round.  Do they reseed in the 2nd round and thus GS would play Phoenix (assuming they finish off the Lakers) or would GS play the 4/5 winner as a normal bracket would lead too.
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by Fooch on Apr 29, 2007 10:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Jackson
He may be a legit #1 for us but i dont think i could name another team he would be a #1 for..... i would have done the deal too but i was looking forward to some young blood...he'll be a great  role model and can contribute as long as possible.

by Qbgetter13 on Apr 30, 2007 10:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Easy.
Cleveland
Jacksonville
Miami
San Diego
Tennessee
Atlanta
Chicago
Minnesota
Philadelphia
Washington

by sfgfan on Apr 30, 2007 11:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

More
Kansas City
Oakland

by methodrampage on Apr 30, 2007 12:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Oakland
But...but....Oakland has Mike Williams now!!!!
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by Fooch on Apr 30, 2007 1:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh yes
actually Mike Williams out produced the current Raiders #1 WR last year.

by methodrampage on Apr 30, 2007 3:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

#1
I think I did too...
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by Fooch on Apr 30, 2007 3:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

back at ya
Cleveland - Edwards
Jacksonville-Jones maybe
Miami-chambers (dolphins fans would agree)
San Diego- yes
Ten- yes
Atlanta- Joe horn
chicago- mushin
minnesota- Sidney rice baby
philly- yes
washington- moss (brandon Lloyd)

Ill give you San Diego, Philly, and maybe Jacksonville but that's all your getting from me

by Qbgetter13 on May 2, 2007 8:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Disagree.
Horn will not be a #1 receiver anymore.  He can hardly stay on the field, and any team who depends on him (or believes he will be #1) will undoubtedly be disappointed.  Ask the Saints.  The Falcons would more likely get #1 performance (and consistency) out of Michael Jenkins, and he's far from providing that.

You can't suggest Sidney Rice is going to become a #1 this season (or even next).  If DJack stepped onto that roster, he'd instantly be a #1.

Moss in Washington is a #1 receiver?  Why, because of one season?  Don't you dare suggest Brandon Lloyd is a #1.  Randal El is a more likely candidate than him, and he isn't.

Matt Jones is buried on their depth chart, he is not going to be their #1.  Reggie Williams would be a more likely candidate.

Cleveland, I'll say that Edwards could develop into a #1.  This would be especially true if Winslow can finally play up to his potential.

by sfgfan on May 3, 2007 10:32 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Staley pick.
You're looking at it the wrong way.  Technically, you can look at him as a second round pick.  Getting a first rounder back from New England isn't that bad.

If you believe the 49ers will pick in the 20's at least (which I think they may), then you could look at it as trading down from there to perhaps high-20's or 32 (at worst) but moving up this year a bit to pick up a "definite" first round talent.

I really like the Staley pick.  Anything that pushes Kwame (either to play harder or out) is a good thing.  I have little doubt that Staley can take over RT (maybe even LT, longterm) by mid-season (next season at the latest).

by sfgfan on Apr 29, 2007 10:17 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Staley
I was reading that the best option would be moving Jonas Jennings over to the right and Staley at left for the long term.
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by Fooch on Apr 29, 2007 10:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And I repeat
Goal line situations are NOT a problem for the Forty Niners running game and Frank Gore. Do not buy into that. It was based on a fumbling problem that was completely taken care of by the second half of the season. If the problem, fumbling, no longer exists, which is doesn't, then the goal line is not an issue.

The potential problem for Frank Gore is fatigue and wear. We need him healthy, and we need him fresh so that when we're in a goal line situation he can pound it in. Dude is solid rock up the middle with great instincts.

I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down... over and over...

by howtheyscored on Apr 29, 2007 10:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Gore
I love everything about Gore.....he runs harder than anyone in the NFL and i would argue that with whoever.....he did have a fumbling problem though.  He may have gotten through it but i wanted a big RB more for the fact that my roommate is a huge Giants fan and what Jacobs does for them is amazing....He runs people over and has 97% chance of scoring from 3yards out with no offensive line......i want one of those...Bush would have been great for this....i dont know much about Clayton but we'll find out

by Qbgetter13 on Apr 30, 2007 10:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

isnt it funny
The 3 guys we were debating Willis, Branch, and Carriker all went to the NFC West.....i think we got the best one but if not we are going to pay for it for a long time...

Also Jordan Kent scares me.....he's big and fast and i hope he flops and goes back to track somewhere

by Qbgetter13 on Apr 29, 2007 9:56 PM PDT   0 recs

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