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Week 2 - 49ers @ Rams - Open Thread

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Date: September 16, 2007

Time: 10:00AM PST, 1:00pm EST

Location: Edward Jones Dome, St. Louis, MO

Weather: It's in a dome, so maybe 70 degrees with a slight breeze from the air conditioning

Injury Report: Click Here - SF: Bajema Questionable; Goldson, Hudson, Spencer Probable ; STL: Hill, Incognito out; Tinoisamoa Questionable; Looker, Bennett Probably.

ScoresAndOdds.com Spread: Rams -3; Over/Under 44; Money Line SF +155, STL -175 (The exact opposite of the MNF game...interesting.

TV: FOX (Channel 2 in San Francisco)

Radio: 1050 AM/107.7 FM

Niners Nation Prediction: 49ers win 27-24

Feel free to enter your predictions HERE

So this open thread is going up Saturday evening.  The reason being that I'm heading out with friends and while I think I'll end up back here tonight, if I do I think it's an iffy proposition that I'll be up by 10am.  I've got the TiVo set to begin recording at 9:59 am and will be raring to go (or at least coherent for the game by the middle of the first quarter).

This is a very winnable game for the 49ers and I think one the 49ers really need to win.  If a team wants to make the playoffs, they need to snatch some road wins.  This is a chance for one of those road wins.  The Rams are coming off a tough loss to Carolina, as well as the loss of Orlando Pace.  So let's get out there and take care of business!

GO NINERS!

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Kirby my dog
Kirby is our very old dog, an akita-shepherd mix, really loving, but he's old and stinky and wakes me or my girlfriend up early every morning. Today was my turn to get up and let him into the backyard to do his business. So unlike Fooch I was up early enough to hear the last part of the show that came on BEFORE the Fisherman's Forecast on KNBR. So I've been drinking coffee and looking through the sports pages with the pre-pre-pre-game shows playing in the background.

Ray Ratto is right in describing this game. It's under the radar. Way under. Last week the Rams looked bad in losing, the Niners looked bad in winning. This week no one is paying attention to this game. Maybe I'm up getting another cup of coffee or something but I haven't heard anyone even mention the game.

This is a game for the Niners to take. If their talent is as good as we think it is, and if their offensive play-calling is as good as we think the talent can be, then they should win this game. The Ram offense should be better than Arizona's, so our offense can't be so conservative to expect the defense to hold them to zero all game. Our offense needs to tip the balance so that the Rams can't rely on handing off to Jackson. We need to put the Rams in a hole so that Bulger is forced to pass.

And can we take a vote to retire that damned song about Shady Brady and Belicheat? I don't need to hear it anymore.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 8:39 AM PDT   0 recs

This sucks...
I'm counting on you guys to post the updates during the game. I won't get to watch because I have Time Warner and well.... they suck.

How I long for the "Sunday Ticket"...

I agree... this game is winnable! C'mon NINERS!!!

by TightSpiral on Sep 16, 2007 9:32 AM PDT   0 recs

Inactives
The San Francisco 49ers have declared DL Atiyyah Ellison, TE Billy Bajema, FS Dashon Goldson, CB Donald Strickland, WR Jason Hill, DL Ray McDonald, OG Tony Wragge inactive for Week 2.

by marcello on Sep 16, 2007 9:53 AM PDT   0 recs

Christ
The announcers are having some trouble early.  Mispronouncing names, saying the wrong team, and just generally confused it sounds.

NICE PRESSURE THOUGH.  3 sacks already.

by marcello on Sep 16, 2007 10:12 AM PDT   0 recs

Terrible
Are there any NFL players who actually know how to field a punt?

by marcello on Sep 16, 2007 10:13 AM PDT   0 recs

re
I hate williams.
Have Hicks or Robinson return a punt.
Merton Hanks forever and ever.

by jtoj on Sep 16, 2007 10:16 AM PDT   0 recs

re
or Jason Hill or one of the young corners.
Merton Hanks forever and ever.

by jtoj on Sep 16, 2007 10:16 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Brandon Williams sucks
He muffed the punt, giving the ball to the Rams around the twenty after the Niners' D had three sacks on the Rams first drive. What does that say?

Like I said, the Niners need to open things up. You can't play offense not to lose because you've got Brandon Williams fielding kicks for you.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:19 AM PDT   0 recs

Passed on first down
Deep, too. But Jackson dropped the ball.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:23 AM PDT   0 recs

re
We gotta keep trying though. Especially two backup corners starting.
Merton Hanks forever and ever.

by jtoj on Sep 16, 2007 10:26 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm sure...
The Alex Smith haters are probably already licking their chops, nevermind that he's thrown 3 perfect passes only to see 2 dropped and the 3rd result in a first down called back due to penalty.
"You gotta bring ass, to get ass." --EDDIE DeBARTOLO JR.

by Josh from Hollywood on Sep 16, 2007 10:26 AM PDT   0 recs

Gore drops a swing pass on 3rd down
So Smith has two dropped passes and a third pass was cancelled out by a facemask penalty. Rams take over on their 11. Maybe the Niners' defense can force a dozen safeties today, because the offense still look out of sync.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:27 AM PDT   0 recs

Bruce beats Lewis
but the pass is overthrown. Not too much pressure on that play.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:28 AM PDT   0 recs

good play, Shawntae
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 16, 2007 10:29 AM PDT   0 recs

make 'em kick it again
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 16, 2007 10:30 AM PDT   0 recs

INTERFERENCE!
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 16, 2007 10:31 AM PDT   0 recs

Williams
at least he was alert enough not to try and catch it after he was run into.
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 16, 2007 10:32 AM PDT   0 recs

brandon williams
was a terrible draft pick.  He clearly sucks at being a receiver since he's about 12th on our depth chart.  we ask him to do ONE thing, return punts, and he sucks at that too.
Bring back the classic Uni's!

by wjackalope on Sep 16, 2007 10:33 AM PDT   0 recs

Looks like a Ram ran into Williams on the punt
Fifteen yards, putting the Niners on the Rams' 39. Before that a hold on the first punt attempt. That's a thirty-four-yard difference in field position. Can they take advantage?

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:33 AM PDT   0 recs

Williams
I'm SOOOOO not sold on Brandon Williams...obviously he drew the interference call but he probably should have called for the fair catch sooner...
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 10:34 AM PDT   0 recs

we need a TD on this drive
especially with starting field position...
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 16, 2007 10:34 AM PDT   0 recs

seriously
We need a solid drive for once.
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 10:35 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

my thoughts exactly
Bring back the classic Uni's!

by wjackalope on Sep 16, 2007 10:35 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

shirt and tie
That's cool that Nolan still rocks the shirt and tie on the road.  Such a classy guy.
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 10:35 AM PDT   0 recs

he held on!
djax!!!
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by wjackalope on Sep 16, 2007 10:35 AM PDT   0 recs

good play action rollout
it looked like it was going to Davis, but Smith found DJax instead.
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 16, 2007 10:35 AM PDT   0 recs

The Disease
STRIKES....20 yard pick up
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 10:36 AM PDT   0 recs

THE DISEASE!
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 16, 2007 10:36 AM PDT   0 recs

Whew, nice!
Play fake, misdirection, hit The Disease, first and goal.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:36 AM PDT   0 recs

ooooho
so close
Bring back the classic Uni's!

by wjackalope on Sep 16, 2007 10:36 AM PDT   0 recs

stick it in
!!!
Bring back the classic Uni's!

by wjackalope on Sep 16, 2007 10:37 AM PDT   0 recs

I'll take what I can get...
Thank God for Stat Tracker....

by TightSpiral on Sep 16, 2007 10:37 AM PDT   0 recs

nfl play by play
NFL.com also rolls out the Play by play which I like for games I'm not actually watching.
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 10:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Stopped at the one foot line
third and goal.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:37 AM PDT   0 recs

FANTASY UPDATE
Steve Smith has a pair of touchdowns for us and Rudi has a receiving TD as well...
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 10:38 AM PDT   0 recs

Gore
the guy is laying 3 feet into the end zone with the ball and they say no TD. Whatever
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 16, 2007 10:38 AM PDT   0 recs

Anyone else.
What do you do? Sneak? Gore again? Something outside. I say Smith straight ahead.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:39 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Gore or Davis
either one. They're both on my fantasy team.
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 16, 2007 10:40 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Gore
When you've got a 3rd and short I think for now you just consistently go to Gore...eventually that sets up everything else, but Gore is enough of a bull.
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 10:42 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ugh
Let's put this baby in!!!
Merton Hanks forever and ever.

by jtoj on Sep 16, 2007 10:38 AM PDT   0 recs

that one's for liz
Bring back the classic Uni's!

by wjackalope on Sep 16, 2007 10:41 AM PDT   0 recs

SCORE
THAT is a good drive!  Frank Gore rushes it in for the score....Gore momma RIP
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 10:41 AM PDT   0 recs

Yes
Gore! Touchdown!

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:41 AM PDT   0 recs

Gore
awesome.
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 16, 2007 10:42 AM PDT   0 recs

re: TD Run
right behind Larry Allen. good play call.
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 16, 2007 10:43 AM PDT   0 recs

Bulger
Time to rattle Marc's cage a little more...I'm loving the pass rush.
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 10:44 AM PDT   0 recs

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING 'BOUT!
WILLIS!
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 16, 2007 10:46 AM PDT   0 recs

Okay, the D is on the field again
This is what we need: Another sack and an interception.

Or at least a punt. We need to get Bulger nervous. Unfortunately, their Jackson is running well.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:47 AM PDT   0 recs

Ah, a false start
which takes back five of Jackson's nine yards.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:47 AM PDT   0 recs

Nice tackle by Clements
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by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 16, 2007 10:49 AM PDT   0 recs

hahaha
dropped!
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by wjackalope on Sep 16, 2007 10:50 AM PDT   0 recs

Bruce drop
Well you don't see Isaac Bruce drop very many wide open catches.
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 10:50 AM PDT   0 recs

Uh-oh
Rams picked up the blitz. Two nice mid-range passes on this drive. Niners need a disruption here. Sack or something. I'll take a dropped pass, though.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:50 AM PDT   0 recs

delay of game
There we go...bad penalty for the Rams
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 10:51 AM PDT   0 recs

Delay of game
Puts them out of field goal range.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:51 AM PDT   0 recs

crap, just a tad too late for the sack
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by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 16, 2007 10:51 AM PDT   0 recs

damn...great pass
Bulger got killed on that pass but a 26-yard completion on a money throw and a money catch...McMichael's always been solid.
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 10:52 AM PDT   0 recs

Big pass downfield
Bulger took a hit, but the Rams are down to the 12.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:52 AM PDT   0 recs

Jackson for one

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:52 AM PDT   0 recs

re
He got cracked.
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by jtoj on Sep 16, 2007 10:52 AM PDT   0 recs

Willis/Lewis
Always fun seeing Michael Lewis and Patrick Willis cracking Steven Jackson
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 10:53 AM PDT   0 recs

Another Jackson run
third and seven at the nine.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:53 AM PDT   0 recs

DAMN
SOOOO close to a Willis INT in the end zone.
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 10:54 AM PDT   0 recs

Willis needs to work on his pass catching...
should have had it
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by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 16, 2007 10:54 AM PDT   0 recs

receiving
Send him out with the receivers in practice once a week!
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 10:54 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Willis nearly intercepts!
Fourth down. They bring in Wilkins.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:54 AM PDT   0 recs

Rams, 10-7

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:54 AM PDT   0 recs

w
Willis will get that in a couple years, the interception, I mean.
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by jtoj on Sep 16, 2007 10:55 AM PDT   0 recs

Let's see if our offense can drive the field
Kickoff coming.

Time to get some chips and dip.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 10:55 AM PDT   0 recs

WOW
Can't believe Hicks held onto that.
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 10:57 AM PDT   0 recs

Wow
Willis is so good. he already looks like the best player on this defense.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 16, 2007 10:57 AM PDT   0 recs

DJack
Nice little pass and catch there to Jackson for 34 yards.
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 10:59 AM PDT   0 recs

finally
A deep past. We gotta get that ball down the field more often.
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by jtoj on Sep 16, 2007 11:00 AM PDT   0 recs

Battle
Just doesn't drop passes.
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 11:01 AM PDT   0 recs

Okay
some rhythm to the passing.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 11:01 AM PDT   0 recs

Smith should have read the blitz
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 16, 2007 11:01 AM PDT   0 recs

Ugh!
A sack taking them way out of range, back to midfield.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 11:02 AM PDT   0 recs

So far so good...

by TightSpiral on Sep 16, 2007 11:02 AM PDT   0 recs

The good, the bad
The passing game was working, running on first didn't fool anyone, and someone missed a block or two.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 11:04 AM PDT   0 recs

Bulger getting too much time
completes out past the twenty.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 11:05 AM PDT   0 recs

Thanks, Randy
dropped a pass.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 11:05 AM PDT   0 recs

geeez
Gotta get that sack there!
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 11:05 AM PDT   0 recs

Bulger shouldn't be breaking tackles
poor tackling there, SMITH!
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by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 16, 2007 11:06 AM PDT   0 recs

Geez, how'd he do that?
laterals out to Jackson for 20.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 11:06 AM PDT   0 recs

Willis
Almost got him jumping his blocker on the screen...woulda been sweet
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 11:06 AM PDT   0 recs

Travis Minor spotting
WOW...haven't seen him in a long time.
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by Fooch on Sep 16, 2007 11:07 AM PDT   0 recs

these receivers are just running loose
they're all so wide open
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 16, 2007 11:08 AM PDT   0 recs

Way too much time
Deep to Bruce. Inside the 20.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 11:08 AM PDT   0 recs

God damn stupid bad tackling
fucking up this drive...

And I know these are elite, veteral receivers, BUT WHY THE HELL does our secondary look as bad as it ever has over the last five years?

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by howtheyscored on Sep 16, 2007 11:08 AM PDT   0 recs

I don't like this drive
time to end it
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by wjackalope on Sep 16, 2007 11:08 AM PDT   0 recs

Bulger is limping
Where is Banta-Cain?

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 16, 2007 11:09 AM PDT   0 recs