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Week 4 - 49ers vs. Seattle Seahawks - Open Thread

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Date: September 30, 2007

Time: 1:00PM PST, 4:00pm EST

Location: Walsh Field @ MPCP

Weather: 67°F, 7mph wind, and sunny

Injury Report: Click Here - SF: Jason Hill, Tarell Brown Questionable; Jonas Jennings, Mark Roman Probable ; SEA: D.J. Hackett, Ben Joppru out; Will Herring Questionable; Shaun Alexander, Maurice Morris Probable

ScoresAndOdds.com Spread: Seahawks -2; Over/Under 40.5; Money Line SF +110, STL -130 (Ouch)

TV: FOX (Channel 2 in San Francisco)

Radio: 1050 AM/107.7 FM

Niners Nation Prediction: 49ers win 24-20

Feel free to enter your predictions HERE

The 49ers look to bounce back from a tough loss last week. The national media would have you believe the 49ers were exposed last week as frauds. My rebuttal to that would be that the 49ers showed they have room to improve but are on the right track and the final score was no indicator of the 49ers performance.

With that in mind, the 49ers need to bounce back from the get-go today. Normally they say establish the run and the pass will follow. I'm convinced this team needs to pass to set up the run if the offensive line is going to continue to struggle. They don't need the bomb, but rather some 7 and 8 yard patterns to set up short runs for Gore.

After hearing that Marc Bulger had his ribs busted by the 49ers pressure, I'd like to hope we can get the same kind of pressure against Hasselbeck. The defense has done a solid job creating pressure so far this season, and in part that is probably thanks to an improved secondary. If the 49ers offense struggles again, the defense will have to carry the day. Sounds kind of like a poor man's version of the 2001 Super Bowl winning Ravens. Hopefully we can establish some offense though. No matter what, this is a huge game for the 49ers. Hopefully they'll take care of business!

GO NINERS!

P.S. - I'm heading over to the Coliseum for the A's season finale, so I've got the TiVo set and have threatened my friends with bodily harm if they tell me the score. I'll have a recap up after I get home and watch my recorded version of the game. And as I'm watching I'll check out everyone's comments along the way.

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almost game time
let's do it baby, big game, go niners!!!
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 12:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ok offense let's start it off right!
move the ball!
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hey a weak run up the middle
on first down. no one saw that coming.
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 30, 2007 1:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

3rd and 8
what else is new?
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

um, yeah
block that guy
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 30, 2007 1:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

crap
who missed that block?
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

smart play nate
what was he thinking?
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

OUCH!
Heitmann, again.

Who backs him up? I think it's time to consider alternatives.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

nice tackle
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

good stand on 3rd down
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 30, 2007 1:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

good coverage
where's the pressure?
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay.
Douglas is looking good. There's talk about going back to a 4-3 since Manny went down.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

When will Taco Bell
switch to John Mellencamp songs?

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

please god no
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

dilfer
oh shit
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

oh shit
shit shit shit shit shit
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Smith's out
with a concussion.

Ugh.

A fumble. Frank coughs it up. And it looked like throwing a pass on first and running on second was working.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

where did you hear that?
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oaw Jeez.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oooohhhhh
catch it!!!
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

They used to have stick-em to put on their hands
to help them catch the ball.

But now they have those gloves!

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by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

fuck, Smith
it hit him right in the chest! damn
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 30, 2007 1:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oaw Jeez
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by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow
what a catch by branch
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

at least we held em
but aren't you supposed to let that ball bounce when it's inside the 5
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Our D is doing okay.
Well, M. Lewis II is more adventurous than Williams.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ok here we go
more great play by the line.  ugh
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Smiley's overcompensating
Who backs him up?

Oh Christ, another fumble!

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

is it the hand
or is Gore back to his old fumbling self?
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

great play call
run into the line on 3rd and 12
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ugh
This gameplan is not encouraging.

WTF!

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by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 1:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

there's a gameplan?
how can you tell?
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 30, 2007 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Point taken
There's no earthly way of knowing which direction this game is going, there's no knowing when we're throwing, or which way the tides are flowing.

Is it raining, is it snowing? No, then why are't we throwing? Are the fires of hell a-glowing?

(Man, I can't remember that bit well from memory. All Hail Gene Wilder!)

I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andy Lee
is great at bouncing those kicks down the field. The man is a master of the punt.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

There was a time
When I would have given anything to have him off the team because he looked so bad every single week.

But he has become one of the best in the league, and I'm glad I was wrong.

I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, guys, Hostler hurt his shoulder
and Nolan wants us to call the game.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

here's an idea
run OUTSIDE the guards
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or punt
on first down.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What? That's crazy!
You're crazy! Who knows what we'll find outside the guards. At least inside the guards we know what's there: dozens f well prepared defenders.

But OUTSIDE the guards? I mean, that could be anything. That could be lava. I don't think it's worth the risk.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

good point
I heard they keep landmines and trip wires out there also.  and sharks.  Sharks with lasers.
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alexander
isn't having much luck today.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

thank you
for finally tackling his slow ass
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmm
maybe it wasn't williams that was the problems on the punt returns
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How about a first down?
Giving the Seahawks the ball at midfield every time is getting me nervous.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

catching the ball
would help with that
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're just
making them THINK they have this.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Battle drops it
and Allen's limping.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nothing like 3rd and long
to move the chains.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's official: I blame the O-Line
for the offense's woes.
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 30, 2007 1:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Inevitable
The way they're playing, they were bound to get Smith hurt sooner or later.
"You gotta bring ass, to get ass." --EDDIE DeBARTOLO JR.

by Josh from Hollywood on Sep 30, 2007 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh good.
Him.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 1:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

good coverage
at least the special teams are doing ok
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Peterson
unabated. Without hindrance.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, look at Garcia scramble
for Tampa Bay.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay, did the O Line just get old
is Hostler not preparing decent blocking schemes, or is that guy who was Oakland's offensive coordinator last year back from that bed and breakfast?

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hostler
hostler is terrible, maybe since turner isnt doing well in san diego we can trade them, our OC for their HC and we make up the cash difference, they would do just to save the money

well wishful thinking

but seriously can we get rid of this guy already, heck that bed and breakfast guy is looking good right now, okay just kidding

by Vote4Gore on Sep 30, 2007 1:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That hurts
that little flip for a 1st down.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If you don't have an offense
you can't win.

After this game, if it continues, there'll be a lot of splainin' to do.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

big play

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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

that was a Hostler call
what were they thinking?
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Screens? Draws?
Does anyone know who's playing tight end? No one's had time to run a pattern.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

good return
now let's get some offense going!

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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, a complete pass.
But a hold.

Maybe it's all Smiley. Bring in Baas.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Throw throw throw

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cadillac Williams
Ugly. Theismannesque.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hey
a run outside the tackles!
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

well there's a shock
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Smiley
looked like shit on that play
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

3rd and 8.
Third sack of the game.

That one's on Smiley.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ugh
At least we know where they're gonna build the new interstate. Somewhere between the tackles.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

which is more pathetic?
Giants' offense or Niners offense?

0 net yards in 1 quarter.

by zenbitz on Sep 30, 2007 1:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's what happens
when you keep going three and out.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tully
stuffed that one.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

On the plus side...
The fact that Dilfer's as pathetic as Smith might mean it's not All Alex Smith's Fault. (aka ASSF)

by zenbitz on Sep 30, 2007 1:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Douglas again.
Please, let's get a drive, just to give the defense a blow.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

BLOCKED!
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 30, 2007 1:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

heeeey oooo
NICE
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 1:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Seahawks/Niners
These teams really seem to hate each other right now. I don't follow either of them so maybe this has been going on for a while. Maybe it is just a division thing. Or it has something to do with guys switching teams (Peterson and others). But as a Niners fan it has to be encouraging that they have a legitimate rivalry brewing with a division foe. I always consider that part of becoming a winner, unless of course it is Tampa Bay with its bizarre blood feud with the Red Sox a few years back.
Celtics '08 or bust. Are you on the bandwagon?

by Jim Weeks on Sep 30, 2007 1:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

BLOCKED!!!!!
Now let's move the ball.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 1:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

NIners in a hole
I know that the Chargers taking Turner late put the Niners in a crimp regarding the offensive coordinator, and maybe there just wasn't anyone better out there at that late stage.

But it's clear that the offense hasn't been in sync all year. They've got to get the O line to work or it's going to be a long year.

Meanwhile, tight end number two is gone.

Maybe this means more four-wide sets.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ok I'm really tired
of Julian Peterson pointing at his name
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 2:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Walker missed that block
on Peterson
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 30, 2007 2:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sack #4
This reminds me of the '06 Raiders.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Count how long
Hasselback has, versus the Niners' quarterbacks.

Oh well.

Looks like it's going to be a long, long afternoon.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

damn that was a sweet play
nice throw, great catch, good RAC
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 2:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

OUTSTANDING LUCK!
NICE CATCH AND TACKLE BREAKING BY DILF AND GORE
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by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 30, 2007 2:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

FInally.
A first down.

Of course, someone was hanging on Dilfer when he threw it.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Smiley
needs to go
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 2:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sack #5
On this one I think it must fall on the receivers.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gore
looks like he's starting to get it going
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 2:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, nice run.
Onlly 3rd and 12.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

C'mon...
I almost can't watch this....

by TightSpiral on Sep 30, 2007 2:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Guh
And I almost can...

Whatever that means.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DIlfer's getting frustrated
Just like the fans.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ad for Prison Break
They could use the Seattle pass rush.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe Kwame Harris
cursed Justin Smiley! Of all the low down dirty, misdirected acts of vengeance...
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by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 2:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

this has been a really discouraging
first half.

SFGate reports that Smith is out with a shoulder injury.  Has anyone heard the geniuses from Fox say anything about it?

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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 2:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Geniuses?
Oh... wait, I get it. You're being sarcastic.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time for Baas to replace Smiley
Smiley didn't get called much the first three games.

I guess if you don't touch anyone you can't get called for holding.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Justin Smiley and Sacks: Is there a connection?
Is a lot like this question:

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by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In pre-season
there was a Zach/Zak/Zac, a six-eight tight end.

Maybe they'll bring him back next week if Bajema is hurt badly. You wouldn't have to worry about passes thrown too high.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Willis again

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

oh look
another good drive by Seattle....

by TightSpiral on Sep 30, 2007 2:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ooooh, nice play
by Harris.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

at least
we're only down 13
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by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 2:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Larry Allen, tripping.
Okay, let's go to the locker room and cry.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Lelie sighting
Throw it deep.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is the sorriest
I've seen the Niners' offense since Freddy Solomon was put in as an emergency quarterback in the fourth quarter of a game back in the late 70s. Futile doesn't begin to describe it.

The team is in trouble.

If the team made the natural progression on offense that it should have, we would probably be moving along towards a division title. But with the O line performing this badly there's no way we can win enough games to finish .500, much less win the division.

Time for some serious reevaluation.

Also, there's the question of how badly Smith is hurt. If he's gone for the season, we could be looking at the end of our hopes. And with that line look for Dilfer to be get x-rayed before the bye.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Too far.
I think the team on the whole hasn't looked good.  The offense is definitely drowning here, but the defense was doing fine before all the 3-and-outs caught up with them.  The defense can only be "energized" for so long, as they'll eventually run out of energy if they're on the field for 6 minute drives but only on the sideline for 2.

by sfgfan on Sep 30, 2007 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Halftime thoughts...
This offensive line is getting tore a new one.  Nolan and his coaches have better come up with something during the next 10-20 minutes (halftime).  The announcers made an interesting point.  The offensive linemen are being very indecisive in who they want to block, which makes it impossible for the backs to pick up the "extra" man.  I'm not saying Robinson, Hicks, Norris, Walker, or Gore would make a huge difference, but they can't even try if they don't know who they've got to block.

Remember when Jennings blew off last week?  It was because someone blocked the same guy he did, resulting in a sack (I think).  Perhaps he needs to make it known (somehow) who he is going to block.

There has not been a single word on Alex Smith.  I hope he can come back in.  Dilfer's gotta be better than Smith in the sense of experience and knowing what he has to do.  Alex provides the mobility to buy a little more time, something Trent can't do.

by sfgfan on Sep 30, 2007 2:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The offensive line
This offensive line has been fucking terrible, get Kwame in there and see what he can do.

by rimrock101 on Sep 30, 2007 2:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's not Staley,
so bringing in Kwame isn't going to do any good.

I'm beginning to think the coaching is at fault, because everyone seems to be unsure of their assignments. It's like everyone on the line got stupid.

That's why I'm wondering if the offensive coordinator for Oakland last year wandered into Niners' headquarters.

If that's the case Nolan's going to have to make some decisions real quick about what's happening with that line. Bring in help for Hostler, get rid of Hostler.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But
Snyder is about the only good thing going out there. Throw Smiley to the wolves, if anybody.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops
I mean Staley.
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by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

smith?
i'm too disillusioned by the niners to scroll through the thread. any word on smith's injury?

by andyourbirdcansing on Sep 30, 2007 2:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

nothing yet

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Conservative.
Nolan is definitely conservative, but he never shies away from the surprise onside kick.

by sfgfan on Sep 30, 2007 2:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Onside kick!
Now, run up the middle.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Interception.
Oh well.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

way to fuck things up
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 30, 2007 2:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That
didn't take long.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The worst part
is Jimmy Johnson laughing at the Niners at halftime.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh fuck him.
In the asshole.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait
I'm following on Yahoo! here.

Seneca Wallace?

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by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 2:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate Jimmy Johnson
I really hate him.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You know
There seem to be a hell of a lot of ex Cowboys working on TV right now. Aikman, J-Johnson, Smith, Irvin, Parcells, K-Johnson...

Am I missing anybody? Weird how I never noticed that before.

# of 49ers? Steve Young.

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by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Might be a good time to take a walk.
My VCR for some reason isn't recording sound, but then I don't know if there's any point in recording this. It is the ugliest game I've seen in years.

It's even worse that the defense has been doing a decent job.

+++

Still no word on Smith.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 2:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well,
There goes the neighborhood.

It might be fair to say that barring a miraculous comeback this is BY FAR the worst game of the season and far exceeds the depths of suck this team is capable of that any of us would have predicted at any point before this morning.

I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 3:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So much for the screen.
Sixth three and out.

The suckitude is truly awesome.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Up the middle
for two.

Gore will get a hundred yards if he gets fifty carries.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If this helps....
Yahoo! Sports is saying Alex Smith hurt his shoulder and his return is doubtful...

Maybe someone already posted this.. but scrolling through all the comments will take too long...

by TightSpiral on Sep 30, 2007 3:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's as in depth of a report
As I've seen.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

News hasn't
reached Fox headquarters. Or maybe Curt Menafee figures who the fuck cares?

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

FOOCH!
Do not, I repeat, do not watch your DVR.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's alright
Fooch is in a better place now.

It might just make up for the Hell he'll be in later.

I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A better place
Any place is a better place.

A drunken stupor is a better place.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why didn't I think of this earlier!
Like a fool, I've been drinking coffee...
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another hold?
Ah, Jonas Jennings. Well, he wanted to be with the rest of the guys.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gore runs outside
for a first down!

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Walker, false start
This team is going down down down.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

False start on Jennings.
It's a cry for help here.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Illegal formation
This is the sorriest, sorriest-assed offense in the history of the Niners.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jesus Christ
It's like a comedy of errors out there. Except for Michael keaton doesn't play some twisted cop thing, and Denzel Washington isn't Keanu Reeves's brother (?).
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 3:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jerry Jones selling Pepsi with extra caffeine
Why not Dr. York? He's more likely to put people to sleep.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

something positive!
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 30, 2007 3:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Clements is still earning his money
Interception.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

GORE!
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 3:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Another Lelie sighting
Dilfer doesn't even have time to throw a screen.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Heitmann
The Niners need to start replacing people on the line. I don't think Heitmann is recovered from the broken leg. Pass blocking and any run up the middle is death.

It's been a total collapse by the O line.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Show me where Siragusa keeps his stash
He's saying that the Niners can come back in this one.

With eighteen minutes left.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well
The Lions had a pretty good fourth quarter...
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look at that run by Gore.
No push at all by the line.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ok....
2 TD's and 2 PAT's... should I still hope?

by TightSpiral on Sep 30, 2007 3:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well
Since that still wouldn't do it... I'd say no.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that was awful
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 30, 2007 3:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dilfer no longer has an NFL caliber arm
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 30, 2007 3:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Probably
but how do you know if it's not the receiver running the wrong route. Everything about this offense is screwed up.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another interception
The worst part of the Niners' defense is the offense.

This is the worst-coached offense in the league.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

*sigh*
Alright nevermind... I suppose I should just toss my "comeback candle" and be done with it. But I'm a sucker.

by TightSpiral on Sep 30, 2007 3:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why is he so into breakfast?
Because it's before the Niner game. After the Niner game he can't eat.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

we suck
 plain and simple
Bring back the classic Uni's!

by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 3:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's not us, wjackalope.
It's Hostler.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hostler
doesn't hold guys and commit false starts.  He doesn't completely miss guys and get beat around the edge.  Believe me, I think Hostler sucks, but we're not playing well either.
Bring back the classic Uni's!

by wjackalope on Sep 30, 2007 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,
but if everyone suddenly turns to crap, either everyone suddenly turned to crap or it's bad coaching.

Who's the O line coach this year? I bet he's getting nervous.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's positive?
The defense is still fighting. Just imagine if they had an offense to score a couple of TDs and not give the other team the ball deep in their own territory?

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

in other news...
I wasn't expecting that Browns victory...

by TightSpiral on Sep 30, 2007 3:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Derek Anderson
Is totally making all of my wet dreams about Brady Quinn looking like a jackass come true. Not that Quinn doesn't look like a jackass to begin with, but I have to admit it's kind of sweet for me.

Me = Biggest Quinn Hater On The Block.

I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see Hill in at QB
Especially if Alex is out for any length of time.      

by DraftQBin2008 on Sep 30, 2007 3:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Garcia available?
Oh yeah, he's winning for the Bucs.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's cool
I didn't like him anyway. He didn't decide he could actually be a leader until he was in Philly, and by then it was way too late for me to stop disliking the guy.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Gold Rush Cheerleaders
Are still looking good, though.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 3:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dilfer
In his prime he was pedestrian (at most).   Using a baseball analogy, he was the outfielder who hits .260-15-60.  Now, he's a .230 hitter with no punch.  If Smith is out for the next game or so, I really don't want to see Dilfer in there.

by DraftQBin2008 on Sep 30, 2007 3:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You know
I wish the Niners had benched Smith for Dilfer before this game, because then Dilfer would have gotten hurt and Smith could have played.

by groug on Sep 30, 2007 4:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
And if wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak right now.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, it's not all about Alex Smith
I guess if you're a betting man take the under next week for the Balti-Niner game.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, references
The hero of SF
The man they call Trent

(cause he's not really a hero, and...oh, whatever)

by groug on Sep 30, 2007 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd take his money, though
If he had to drop it in a desperate attempt to escape SF by air.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No news on Smith yet
That's usually real bad news.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 4:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

shoulder injury?
I thought they said it was a concussion.
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 30, 2007 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then they said shoulder
Did they say concussion again? I turned down the TV sound and am listening to the radio.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm
Maybe he has a shoulder concussion.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Close
Shoulder separation.

What's the name of the third-stringer?

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just got the call guys
I'm going in!
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So...
We might as well just give Gore a shot at the century mark at this point. Barring being cautious of injury, he deserves at least that.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 4:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This year's MVP for the Niners
either Lee or Nedney. But it will be Lee if we don't start getting closer to the other team's end zone.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 4:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

On the play Smith was knocked out
they were in a shotgun formation. Seattle was flying in there.

I really don't care what kind of rah rah bull that Nolan says to the reporters, I hope he's not saying that to his coaches and team.

This was the worst-prepared offense since last year's Raiders' team. And maybe worse.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 4:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well that was seriously embarrassing
I guess we'll just have to give them a righteous spanking later this year in Seattle.

On the other hand, the Ravens are looking awfully beatable right now. Not crappy, still quite good, but very beatable.

I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 4:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bill Cowher rumored to want 9er job
Just heard it on the radio.    

Mark my word:  Bill Cowher is Niner coach next year.

by DraftQBin2008 on Sep 30, 2007 4:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Head coach
A good head coach has to be a good administrator.

Nolan got screwed when Norv went south, a move that's not working for either of them, so I can't hang it all on him. He was kind of stuck with Hostler.

But he must have noticed that things weren't working out with the offense back in camp, and at that time he should have made some kind of move to help out Hostler and whoever the line coach is.

I guess it's possible that everyone is getting old on the O line all at once.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't help thinking
That everything here down to your handle is seriously jumping the gun.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome
It only took you three posts to come up with the dumbest post of the year.  Congrats, way to raise the bar!
Fire Conservative Playcalling Now.

by marcello on Sep 30, 2007 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Color analyst
On the Niners' postgame the guy who does the color for the radio broadcast (the ex-linebacker, his name escapes me now) says it's time to replace both guards. Allen and Smiley, put 'em on the bench.

Rod Brooks, the sideline guy, is calling it a "system-wide failure."

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 4:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm inclined to agree.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That sucked
Well that was terrible.  Horrible playcalling and line.  Defense left with little chance because of the offense.  At least that's what it appeared to be like at the game.  How did it look on tv (sorry, I couldn't make myself read the 200+ comments)?  

Not only was the game terrible, but my experience at the park was equally garbage.  At least 4 people in my section were escorted out by police, annoyning people yelling retarded shit everywhere, and this insanely drunk lady sitting behind us puked on my friend (seriously).  I don't think I'm going to go back for a while.  You get a much better view on tv anywyas.

Fire Conservative Playcalling Now.

by marcello on Sep 30, 2007 5:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Puking on the TV
Marcello,

Having someone puke on you is bad, but watching the game made you want to puke. The game was like the TV was puking at you.

The worst was Jimmy Johnson laughing at the Niners at halftime. Somewhere else (I think) someone reported that Kevin Gogan on the Seahawks postgame show was laughing at how badly the Niners performed. He said he'd seen better-coached high school teams.

They're fighting with each other on the post-game show.

by Bob In Pacifica on Sep 30, 2007 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It begins and ends with the O-Line
This game was terrible start to finish, it is not a good thing when you ask yourself why you are still watching the game. I cannot blame the play calling, the defense, or Dilfer for this one. It was all on the O-Line. It was pathetic how many times Dilfer was sacked or hurried. They got no push on runs I have never seen Gore hit in the backfield so many times. When O-Line play is terrible you cannot run and you cannot pass, even Bill Walsh (RIP)himself could not have called plays that would have worked. Just ask the Raiders from last year when your O-Line is terrible your team will be terrible. Unless we get this O-Line problem fixed this is going to be a long frustrating season.

PS Has anyone come across any news on Alex Smith?

by billwalsh4ever on Sep 30, 2007 5:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Exclusive photos/commentary from that debacle
http://lordbeermestrength.blogspot.com/2007/09/photo-gallery-from-bill-walsh-field-at.html

man, what a travesty of a performance. hopefully this can amuse some of you to ease that loss a bit.

by dojoman on Sep 30, 2007 5:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I like the swiss cheese
But I just can't get behind the fact that the first person you (or blogwriter) called out was Gore! Even considering the two fumbles, he was the only guy on the offense who came close to putting out a quality performance.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Smith has a seperated shoulder
It looks like he will not be able to play next week against the Ravens. Man when it rains it pours.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/09/30/sports/s150149D90.DTL

by billwalsh4ever on Sep 30, 2007 6:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

On the bright side
He'll have the extra week from the bye to heal up, so we hopefully won't miss him for any more than the one game without rushing the shoulder.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 30, 2007 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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