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Football Outsider 49ers Predictions and Thoughts

First off, a tip of the hat to Kev for mentioning Football Outsiders 2007 DVOA predictions.  If you missed them here are there NFC West predictions:

West       Division  Playoffs   Wins  StDev
SF             40.3%      60.5%    8.3    1.42
SEA            35.2%      52.8%    8.0    0.96
ARI             14.7%      20.9%    6.2    3.30
STL             9.8%      15.2%    5.9    2.75

So according to this, we're projected at 8.3 wins with a standard deviation of 1.42.  The most interesting team listed is Arizona because of their 50% standard deviation, while St. Louis is not too far behind.  I think this goes to show just how wide open this division could be if things go right for the various teams.  While Arizona could be bad, they are not guaranteed of that, unlike some other teams around the league.

One "anti-49er" opinion I have (if you want to even call it that), is that I think Seattle is way to undervalued.  The Sports Guy mentioned in his follow up piece today, but I think it's obvious to most anybody.  Things went south pretty badly for Seattle last year and they still went 9-7.  They have questions, like any other team, but if they can stay healthy I think they could be one of the elite teams of the NFC.  Of course, if Alexander gets hurt and/or Hasselbeck shows signs of age, that's a useless point.

Just for the heck of it, I also checked out Football Outsiders 2006 DVOA Projection (ignore my poor formatting).

West      Division  Playoffs  Win    SD
SEA          79.5%     79.8%     13.6  2.66
ARI        2.4%     12.8%     5.6   2.31
SF        1.5%     7.8%         4.8   3.10
STL        1.7%     7.0%         4.6   3.88

Seattle clearly underperformed and while Arizona certainly struggled, they fell pretty close to their projected win level.  With the 49ers and Rams overperforming their projection it certainly made the NFC West a lot tighter.

Finally, FO had their own subjective predictions based on the DVOA projections.  They had their various writers predict who they thought would beat their projection and who they thought would fall shorts.  The 49ers managed to fall in both categories:

Likely to Beat
Doug Farrar: San Francisco. There's only one playoff contender in the NFC South (the NFC West's foe this season), and the Seahawks are the 49ers' only threat in the West. They had the easiest projected schedule before the Vick thing and the fact that Arizona is starting to look like a huge migraine for Ken Whisenhunt. I think San Francisco will have enough on the ball to surpass the 8.1 win projection.
Likely to Fall Short
Ned Macey: San Francisco. Our 8.1 projection may be lower than other people picking them as a real sleeper, and I still think we are too high. This projection is largely based on the projected weakest schedule in football. I think that Arizona, Seattle, and St. Louis are all a little better than we are projecting which takes wins off of San Fran's ranking. Meanwhile, the 49ers were the fourth worst team in football last season. Nate Clements is not that good.

They both make excellent points and actually use the idea of a "weak schedule" to their own advantage.  The 49ers definitely have some weak opponents on paper, but facing off against teams like the Ravens, Bengals and others is no small feat.

Also, I think the Nate Clements point is kind of pointless, personally.  Yea he's not highest paid DB in football good, but he's also not bad.  If you don't consider his salary, he's certainly one of the best corners in football.

EDITOR'S NOTE 3:00PM - Unrelated, but HowTheyScored has the Week 1 prediction diary up to the left. I've thrown up the games to predict, so the more who want to join the merrier.

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Re: Likely to Fall Short
Not to mention, it's not like Clements is the only player we added.  He makes it seem like we signed Clements, dusted off our hands, and declared this team a Superbowl contender.  Not only did we add a bunch of quality players in free agency and the draft, but our returning young players are a year older (especially relevant for Smith, Gore, and Davis).  Further, our O-line is basically returning, except we swapped in Staley for Harris.  Line continuity from year to year is important (in fact it's one of the reasons FO's numbers have Green Bay with a better record than Chicago this year).

His argument is nothing but a handwaving reaction to all the people picking us as a sleeper.  That makes him a bigger douche than the people picking us to go to the Superbowl (it's fun to dream, but come on, even if we did get there, whoever picked us to do that is still full of shit because they just got insanely lucky).

In conclusion, fuck Ned Macey.  I hope Vernon shows him first hand what The Disease is all about.

by marcello on Sep 7, 2007 2:59 PM PDT   0 recs

first hand?
Hmmm...not sure if first hand is the best idea.

Davis/VD/The Disease is definitely making things interesting off the field for this blog.

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by Fooch on Sep 7, 2007 3:08 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

4th Worst?
the 49ers were the fourth worst team in football last season.

Last time I checked.  I finished 7-9 and picked 11th in the 2007 NFL Draft.  By my math that would have made us the 11th worst team in the NFL last year.  But what do I know?

by methodrampage on Sep 7, 2007 3:37 PM PDT   0 recs

Well
I assume he's not just blowing it out of his ass, and has some advanced statistics that support the claim (since that is their business, but it is pretty difficult to see whete that would be coming from based on all the relevant numbers I know offhand.

I'm pretty much with Brae on this one, but I do wonder where that number came from.

I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down. Over and over. / My Blog, For Writers

by howtheyscored on Sep 7, 2007 4:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I might be mistaken
But a team never made the playoffs or won the Super Bowl with number other than the ones light up on the scoreboard.  They can say the Niners were the 4th worst team in the league but when it comes down to it there were 10 other teams with worse records.

by methodrampage on Sep 8, 2007 2:24 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

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