Seahawks 34 - 49ers 13: Thank God for the bye week
Before the last half of the fourth quarter, I was prepared to write all about the badass attitude Mike Singletary is clearly bringing to the table. Kicking Vernon Davis off the field and benching J.T. O'Sullivan are two very clear signs these are not your Nolan Niners anymore. We'll get back to that, but we must address something quite distressing.
I'd say our defense sucks, but it's not that simple. When Leonard Weaver, a fullback, gets 116 receiving yards and two big touchdowns, something is clearly not right. The pass rush remains awful and there just didn't seem to be enough blitzing to make up for our rather awful defensive line. There are playmakers in the defense, but they're not able to get into a position to succeed. Just as the offense started to move the ball with a little bit more consistency, the defense got torched. I'd love to hear suggestions as I have none. The 49ers clearly need to find a real pass rusher in the draft this coming season.
Mike Singletary
Now there is clearly plenty to bitch about heading into the bye week. At the same time, I have to admit that I don't feel quite as bad after Mike Singletary's performance today. J.T. O'Sullivan did everything he could to hand the game over to Seattle and finally the accumulation of mistakes crossed some imaginary threshold.
Enter Shaun Hill. A quick look at the box score shows a fitting comparison. In the first half, JTO was 13-for-21 for 131 yards, with 1 INT and 2 fumbles (1 lost). Prior to his last two incompletions (garbage yards) Shaun Hill was 13-for-21 for 129 yards with 1 TD, 1 fumble (recovered by the 49ers) and 20 rushing yards. I realize it's an immensely small sample size, but I know the Shaun Hill crowd will point to that, so I figured I'd throw it out there first!
The second aspect of Mike Singletary that hit a homerun for me was sending Vernon Davis back to the locker room. Davis talks a big game, but continually fails to back it up and his lame personal foul after his last catch was one more instance of a complete lack of discipline by the Duke (should we call him the Duchess from now on?). Singletary benched him and then kicked his ass off the field, which I could not be happier about. Maybe this coming two weeks will be a wakeup call for Davis. Talent alone does not make for a great football player.
Bye
After three hours, Tony Boselli finally made a smart comment. This bye week could not be coming at a better time. Shaun Hill would appear to have done enough to get the first team snaps for the next two weeks heading into Arizona. More importantly, let's hope Singletary can light a fire under somebody's ass on the defensive side of the ball. It doesn't matter how good Shaun Hill or Frank Gore or whomever can be on offense if the defense keeps giving up 30+ points a game.
The easy move would be to fire Manusky, but I think the bye week could give the team some time to figure out something on defense. If the struggles continue against Arizona, it might be time to find a new defensive coordinator. The offense might finally have a chance to turn the corner with Hill at the helm. Now it's time to straighten out this frustrating defense. I will say at least that Patrick Willis and Manny Lawson stepped up with some solid games (minus a few misses of course). THIS is why Lawson should always be on the field...not just playing special teams.
EDITOR'S NOTE: And if you want to write any FanPosts about Shaun Hill and it's just a slightly extended comment, might be better in this thread.
And of course thanks to everybody who took part, even that damn Seahawks fan! Total breakdown after the jump.
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To be fair, Leonard Weaver was a TE in college.
So it wasn’t your run-of-the-mill FB.
by redwolf75 on Oct 26, 2008 4:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
By the way, Davis' personal foul was on Brian Russell,
who talks an inordinate amount of trash. He was probably asking for it.
by redwolf75 on Oct 26, 2008 4:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fixed
By the way, Davis’ personal foul was on Brian Russell,
who talks is an inordinate amount of trash.
Signature? SIGNATURE?! Don't talk about SIGNATURE! I just hope I can write a sentence!
by SSreporters on Oct 26, 2008 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats no excuse,
dumb penalties and a lack of discipline is helping to kill this team.
by Ninerfromacrossthepond on Oct 26, 2008 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ridiculous
the way the defense is told to lay back and give them short passes.
i dont see how stupid Manusky can be to not bring pressure.
MURS for President!!!!!!!
by jtoj on Oct 26, 2008 4:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hey fooch...
….was that sample size comment a preemption of me pointing it out? ;-)
by Florida Danny on Oct 26, 2008 4:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you know it
I don’t know a ton about stats, but small sample size is the mantra I do know. But feel free to point it out again as I think you have more credibility than I do in that regard!
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by Fooch on Oct 26, 2008 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
less sample size
and more a matter of game plans, i think. we have to wait and see how teams plan for a shaun hill offense instead of a jt osullivan offense, then we can start to evaluate. Sample size gets a little too much credit in sport stats, I think the quality of competition matters a lot more. give him a few games against better defenses and we’ll see what we have.
of course, debating hill and o’sullivan speaks to the condition of 49er personnel right now. like the differences b/w a turd sandwich and turd burrito.
We're talkin' about practice!
by sfwarriorcvg on Oct 26, 2008 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally looking forward to...
…doing the recap of this heaping pile of dogshit.
by Florida Danny on Oct 26, 2008 4:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
more like NOT looking forward to it right?
I see the future, and it is Pablo
by CB30 on Oct 26, 2008 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
…i was being a little sarcastic
by Florida Danny on Oct 26, 2008 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just heard
some Singletary comments and boy was he fired up about VD
“I would rather play with 10 ppl and be penalized, then play with 11 knowing that one guy doesn’t want to help this team”
Something along those lines….either way, I love it, I would love to see Singletarey be our permanent HC, he showed more emotion with those few comments then I had seen from Nolan alll year.
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by 49erLou on Oct 26, 2008 4:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw that, and he was awesome. There wasn’t any coach speak there.
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by marcello on Oct 26, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
singletary
is a certified badass. one of the founding members of the certification board that certifies badasses. I don’t know if he can coach, but for now that’s pretty awesome.
We're talkin' about practice!
by sfwarriorcvg on Oct 26, 2008 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last time I checked it's not a penalty to play with 10 people.
It’s not smart but I’m pretty sure it’s withing the rules.
by methodrampage on Oct 27, 2008 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 HC decisions...
1. The public way – and frankly embarrassing way for JTO – that Singletary benched JTO has gotta mean that Hill is in for rest of season, barring injury of course. This could backfire if JTO is needed again cos his confidence has gotta be shot now.
2. The way that Singletary showed to one of the stars of the team who is in charge – and therefore to the rest of the team – by evicting them from the game was just fantastic.Hopefully, he will remain consistent on this.
My comment earlier this week when I tried to defend JTO and to possibly point out the causes for his performances did take a hit again with his performance today, but as fooch points above did Hill really do any better?
During this comment I also tried to make the point, unsuccessfully I think, that I believe the defense is the major cause for the offensive woes. No pass rush, not enough aggressive playcalling and a secondary that seems to me to stand to far off and allow short yardage all the time is a recipe for disaster. Am I right in this? As for solutions, I havent any for now apart from correcting the above.
This means our offense is always under pressure to score to stay in the game. Then we have the problems with our o-line. Boy! What do you guys think?
by Ninerfromacrossthepond on Oct 26, 2008 4:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
JTO
is just the most fucking unclutch person ever.
and the question to did Hill really do any better?
Well, give him practice time with the first team and in 2 weeks we shall see.
We can’t make judgements on Shill on that second half of work.
MURS for President!!!!!!!
by jtoj on Oct 26, 2008 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hill made a TD with NO turnovers! need I say more?
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Oct 27, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
vernon davis more like venereal disease amirite
the man is an infection that’s gone gangrene. it’s time to amputate.
by ryo1 on Oct 26, 2008 5:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Singletary
I liked the way that Singletary handled JTO and Davis today.
As far as JTO’s confidence, it may already be shot. There are coaches who move quarterbacks in and out during a game, so it’s not the end of the world for a quarterback to be pulled out of a game. He had to have realized that it was justified. He’s got to get over his fumbling and interceptions.
I’m still not convinced that Hill is the answer, but at least he LOOKS like a quarterback. He seems calm, in control. I’ve got a feeling that if there’s a permanent switch to Hill (and I wouldn’t bet on it yet) that the offense would have to pull in its horns and get a lot more conservative, which actually may be what it needs.
As far as VD is concerned, he needs to grow up. He’s like a five year-old out there. Forget the personal foul, how many times did he have a false start? At this point he has to understand that he needs to either get in control or just go away.
by Bob On The Coast on Oct 26, 2008 5:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you
about Hill, he does look calm and more in control. Also, that the offense needs to be more conservative in its plays, more screens and short passes – and also give Gore 25-30 runs per game not just touches.
by Ninerfromacrossthepond on Oct 26, 2008 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the guy throws like a girl
he has no arm strength. I can see why martz doesn’t want him in there.
If we put him in the game from the get-go, we’ll need to completely change the game plan.
by joe t on Oct 26, 2008 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Change Game Plan
You mean away from the game plan of fumbling and throwing picks?
by telescop on Oct 27, 2008 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and also give Gore 25-30 runs per game not just touches
No.
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by marcello on Oct 27, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cleaning house
If we’re talking about cleaning house (Manusky, O’Sullivan, Nolan, etc.), and talking about the need for the offense to become more conservative, do we need to be talking about firing Martz as well? The guy clearly wants a gunslinger behind center, he wants a wide-open offense, and he won’t use Gore the way Gore needs to be used.
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by Exhibit G on Oct 27, 2008 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think we lose much by replacing him. I think the second Martz was overlooked for the head coaching job we lost or offensive coordinator for next year (again). He won’t stay knowing there is no HC opportunity for him. The real issue is replace him with who. We need to get the right person, not just anyone ready and willing to step in, and they need to be a long term solution.
by telescop on Oct 27, 2008 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only way he leaves...
… is if another team offers him a head coaching gig. He’s under contract for next year, and I doubt he’d show the world that he can’t work with someone who has more power than him.
by sfgfan on Oct 27, 2008 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF are you talking about?
he won’t use Gore the way Gore needs to be used.
Please enlighten us all with your offensive prowess. How does Gore need to be used? He’s 4th in the league in rushing, he’s on pace for over 2000 yards and 330+ touches. Is Martz even the problem here? He’s taken the Niners from dead last in offense (13.7 pts/game) to 19th (21.4 pts/game) in 1 year with shit for QB’s. Unless you’re going to blame Martz for the 17 fumbles (9 lost) and 11 INT then he’s really not to blame here.
by methodrampage on Oct 27, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot to mention the defense.
I got nothing, though.
Except, if you can’t get pressure with a four-man rush, you better blitz.
by Bob On The Coast on Oct 26, 2008 5:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
why the hell didn't we kick a field goal at the end of the first half?
That’s some stupid shit right there—it is a ten point game, we have a all pro kicker who has the distance, and we go for the first down on fourth and four? Totally unnecessary. And Mike Martz can ride back out of town on the same horse he came in on—we’re running the ball down their throats with Gore and he calls a play action pass which leaves the backside OLB unblocked despite the fact that Seattle has been crashing the edges in both games that we’ve played them this year. Poor job.
by joe t on Oct 26, 2008 5:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I hated that call too!
Singletary said Martz wanted to go for it on 4th and 4 and he said “okay”. You’re the head coach! Make the call that’s obvious to the rest of us! I thought allowing Martz to dictate what was nothing but an ego-based call was very Nolan-esque. Horrible
by wickedmpulse on Oct 26, 2008 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least I'm not THAT upset...
While it REALLY sucks to lose to the seahawks, what I saw from Singletary made be proud again to be a niner fan. While Nolan brought back a “football culture” to the niners, Singletary will try to bring a football attitude to the niners. This semi tom coughlin style coaching is the discipline we need, and as you can tell, we lack discipline.
Its hard to be happy about a bad loss, which I am not, but what the coaching showed me (and that O’Crapagain is on the bench) made me a bit happier. Worst case scenario – Singletary can’t make a difference, we still suck, and we can offer a new head coach choice on a top five draft pick (which is an enticing offer for a new coach).
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Oct 26, 2008 6:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they'll be very hard pressed to get a new coach
that would be any better.
Their best hope was/is Holmgren but he seems intent on taking a year off. They need someone like Parcells to come in and re-establish some credibility, but he is likely off the market as well and I don’t think there is anyone else out there that they will get.
by joe t on Oct 26, 2008 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't be the only one who thinks that centering blame on VD...
after your team is brutalized by a bad Seahawks team is kind of BS. Seems like deflecting blame. That was your team that got crushed, Singletary. Maybe Russell deserved the slap. Seems like Singletary found an easy scapegoat and made a big production out of it. Is that motivational? That seems like pretty poor management. Feeding your players to media, does that make this a better team? It’s great for Singletary, wherever he ends up, but I don’t see how this helps San Francisco.
by John Morgan on Oct 26, 2008 7:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
49ers
If you knew what we’ve put up with for the last 3+ years under Nolan you might have a better idea about our situation. There are plenty of issues with the 49ers but for 49ers fans, the Singletary attitude is a step in the right direction.
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by Fooch on Oct 26, 2008 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Singletary
didn’t get rid of Vernon Davis because he believes that he lost the game for us completely. Nor do we believe that he did. Its just the big thing to talk about right now because A. Singletary made a hard-nosed decision that amplified and practically crapped discipline. and B. Vernon Davis is supposed to be a freak. The “Big Production” are you referring to the media questioning him about it over and over, or him actually sending him to the locker room? Because he didn’t do that for the media. He did that for his team.
by Ninjames on Oct 26, 2008 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I was glad to see VD kicked off the field. I don’t think we lost because of his one stupid play, but if you were a Niner fan you would know how it really is. We have put up with 3 years of underproduction and over hyping. Every year is VD’s break out year and every year it is pretty much the same. Nothing. I am sick and tired of hearing about VD fighting his own teammates on a almost weekly basis during training camp, then coming out and dropping the ball on game day and making dumb ass penalties(offisdes, illegal formations, punching a guy in the face after the play) that have no doubt contributed hugely to 2 or 3 losses this season. It’s about time someone stood up and told the big baby to grow up or go home.
I don’t care what the media thinks, all I know is I am really excited in what we may have with Mike Singletary and I hope that VD has learned something today and finally grows up and starts acting like a professional football player. I honestly want the guy to be good, I don’t think he is a bad guy, I just think he needs to grow up ALOT. I am pulling for him, I mean I do have a VD jersey hanging up in my closet that I would love to break out and wear, but right now I would honestly be too embarassed. I hope he learned his lesson and I hope after that terrible 4th down decision Singletary learns that he has the power to tell Martz to suck it and kick that FG instead of going for it.
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by 49erLou on Oct 26, 2008 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davis needs to STFU
if it had been anyone else I would likely agree with you.
I also think that the rest of the press conference was a lot of hot air—Mike, show me something as a coach and I’ll start putting some weight into post game rants.
by joe t on Oct 26, 2008 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a great game....
I mean besides being used as Holmgren’s toilet paper, this was a good day. Singletary showed he is in charge and he isn’t taking any guff. And JTO is finally outta there!!! This isn’t about seeing Hill as much as it is about not seeing JTO anymore. Thank GOD!
Hill doesn’t have to do much, he just has to not throw interceptions. And he needs to not fumble when it is within his control. That’s it.
I think I pulled my swagger muscle...
by BawLa on Oct 26, 2008 7:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree(*)
JTO gone is the right move. Him making those bad turnovers is the 3rd or 4th (please someone correct me) game in a row he’s done such a crime. It doesn’t matter how much you understand the unique offense we run if you turn the ball over that much it will cost us.
Martz does not run an offense that no one has seen before, its not canadian/arena football, its still the NFL, there are still 11 people on the field, the only differences are that there are more timing routes and more pre-snap shifting than in the average offensive scheme. While it would defintealy be ideal to have a big gun QB with a lot of skill under center, it is good enough right now to have a “caretaker” that manages the game and doesn’t turn the ball over more.
Martz needs to adapt his own coaching strategy to the team, and not expect every team to change to his rigid coaching strategy. I agree with Ninerfromacrossthepond in that Gore needs to run the ball more, not just touch it, and Martz needs to realize that we have one of the biggest ground threats in the NFL in our backfield, and just giving his runs up the middle is not getting the job done.
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Oct 26, 2008 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
typo typo typo… sorry its been a long night
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Oct 26, 2008 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed...
but we are having serious trouble running the ball because of blocking. And I honestly don’t think it’s as much to do with the scheme as it has to do with lack of skill and experience. Sims is just killing me inside. I haven’t been paying too much attention to the guys on the inside of the o-line, but my overall impression is that we need an upgrade there too.
I think I pulled my swagger muscle...
by BawLa on Oct 27, 2008 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
disagree..
Gore Averaged 5.2 yards per carry on Sunday and 4.6 on the season. Until proven otherwise, the only problem is he is not getting the ball enough.
by telescop on Oct 27, 2008 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously?
Gore averaged 5.2 yds/carry on sunday beacuse the hawks were leading the game the whole time and we had to throw the ball. Whenever we needed the yards, they clinched down and stopped the run.
Gore may be averaging 4.6 on the season, but he is better than that. The main reason why he is better than last season is because we had some success throwing the ball so teams can’t load the box. But look at the teams we have played this year. With the exception of NY the rest of the run defenses are average at best. Yet Frank has only had 2 games over 100 yds.
I agree, Frank should get more touches. But that will likely only lead to a lower average. Either way we need some help on the O-line. If we didn’t need help then we would’ve never had to watch JTO throw INT’s in the endzone because we would’ve pounded the ball in.
I think I pulled my swagger muscle...
by BawLa on Oct 27, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did see Vernon Davis to something positive though...
When Shaun Hill was warming up in the second quarter, I saw Vernon pat him on the back and offer some encouraging words to the QB. I don’t think the guy is all bad, he’s just off his rocker. He’d be great for special teams.
by wickedmpulse on Oct 26, 2008 7:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think he’s that bad either. I think he’ll get his starting job back after all this. Singletary will whip the guy into shape.
by Ninjames on Oct 26, 2008 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s got no hands though, the guy is physically gifted but he can’t catch to save his life.
by wickedmpulse on Oct 26, 2008 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but...
Hill’s first pass to VD resulted in a completion for a first down.
I think I pulled my swagger muscle...
by BawLa on Oct 27, 2008 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
more importantly
a completion
I think I pulled my swagger muscle...
by BawLa on Oct 27, 2008 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it is important to keep in mind
that for a lot of these guys (not just Davis) having a strong male role model (especially a disciplinarian) isn’t something that they’re used to, especially an african american role model. I think this can go either way, and it is a good thing that there is a bye week coming up so Mike can try and get them into shape. I’m kind of with Kevn Lynch on this one—either the players will completely buy in or they will completely tune out, no middle ground.
We’ll see; to be honest, I’m not real hopeful
by joe t on Oct 26, 2008 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking in my magical crystal ball...
I see Singletary being a very good head coach. I see a fierce defense led by Defensive Player of the Year Patrick Willis and All-Pro corner Nate “Lockdown” Clements, a young athletic receiving corps led by “Captain” Josh Morgan and also starring Jason Hill and Arnaz Battle, Frank the Tank still “toting the rock” and scoring TD’s, and don’t forget the brick wall that is the offensive line led by uhh..umm..Eric Heitmann? It’s a little fuzzy who else is on that line to make it such a brick wall, or who it is even protecting. Wait…is that Mike Vick…no way it couldn’t be. The D-Line looks OK with Justin Smith and Ray McDonald, but it looks like there are 1 or 2 pieces left on that puzzle. It even looks like Vernon Davis finally started strapping up his gloves and catching the ball. Boy, that Jed York looks like a genius. The team even decided to keep those beautiful throwback uni’s to do more to commerate the passing of Bill Walsh and inspire the greatness of Niners teams past….
So then of course I looked to my 49ers Magic 8 ball and asked if all these things would come true…
Ask Again Later…dammit
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by 49erLou on Oct 26, 2008 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Delanie Walker
is getting an MRI today. Elbow.
That puts Davis back in the starting lineup.
My biggest concern is the defense. That unit just keeps getting worse.
Singletary may have lighted a fire, but now what? Maybe just a lot of burning.
by Bob On The Coast on Oct 27, 2008 6:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Solve two of our problems at once
Move Vernon Davis to the Defensive Line. Won’t have to worry about catching the ball and may generate a pass rush!
by telescop on Oct 27, 2008 9:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If he lacks the discipline...
… to learn how to run routes properly and to keep his emotions in check, what in the world makes you think he can learn a new position. This is especially true if you consider that the offensive line doesn’t provide much glitz and glamor, which is something a person like Davis strives for.
by sfgfan on Oct 27, 2008 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question
Since I don’t get to see any games being here in Indiana, I need to ask, are we still really running the 3-4, or are we mixing in the 4-3 more and more? I think I remember hearing Singletary say something about not knowing if we were a 3-4 or 4-3 team, so maybe the next two weeks will be used to determine which we go with more and for the future?
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by gatling on Oct 27, 2008 7:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the future defensive scheme will be the 4-3
The Niners didn’t commit to the 3-4 in this past draft and the team, as is, is built more for a 4-3 anyways.
by methodrampage on Oct 28, 2008 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As method points out...
… the future of this defense is probably in the 4-3.
I also don’t recall seeing very many 3-man fronts the past few weeks, so perhaps the future is coming real soon.
by sfgfan on Oct 28, 2008 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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