49ers 10 - Bills 3: Shank you very much
It might have been a little ugly. No, check that. It was a LOT ugly. The 49ers were 3-27 in their last 30 in 10am starts and West Coast teams had not won on the East Coast all season. Well, that has all changed in what has to be the biggest win of the season for the 49ers. The 49ers 3 wins prior came against the Lions, Rams and the Seahawks...not exactly titans of terror. A win against a team desperate for a playoff spot is always a good win, especially when it comes on the road.
As many pointed out in the thread, there was a lot of bad in this game. Shaun Hill and Eric Heitmann continue to have trouble on that Center-QB exchange. Vernon Davis continues to make stupid plays. Mike Martz continues to make some rather stupid play calls late in the game with the lead. And of course, the defense continues its bending style, although there was no breakage today.
However, I think that one paragraph is enough coverage of the negatives for today. When you get something so rare as an East Coast win, you have to be pleased, no matter how it happened. Each unit made mistakes, but they also found ways to win this game and that should be accounted for.
Offense
Shaun Hill was not wildly impressive, but this might qualify as a Hill special: no killer turnovers and doing just enough to win the game. Frank Gore really struggled getting anything going, but he kept on grinding it out. He had a couple of solid runs in that first scoring drive and for the most part they did what they could to have him dictate the tempo of the game. What's really impressive is that the 49ers were outgained by 145 yards and ran quite few less plays, but were only out-possessed by 1 minute.
The highlight of the game though had to be Isaac Bruce absolutely schooling Leodis McKelvin on the first drive, including a touchdown reception that left McKelvin holding Bruce's jockstrap.
Defense
As ugly as the defense was at times, they did enough to prevent the Bills from getting into the end zone, whether it be Balmer's pass deflection or some really key sacks of J.P. Losman. Marshawn Lynch had a field day, but never got into the end zone. Fred Jackson is considered one of the under-the-radar impressive guys but he really did nothing and was stood up behind the line of scrimmage on several plays.
As has been stated, if the team is going to stick with the 3-4, a monstrous nose tackle like Terrence Cody is a must in this upcoming draft. A big guy taking up two offensive linemen would be the ticket for opening up more of a pass rush. Thankfully J.P. Losman did that for us today.
Special Teams
Joe Nedney had a big 51-yard field goal late in the first half, but more importantly was the play of Andy Lee. He continues to be just an absolute stud on punts. He didn't have any particularly stand out punts (like the 80+ yarder) but I think his play deserves extra recognition.
Coaching
As Grumpy Guy mentioned late in the game thread, Mike Singletary moved a step closer to dropping that interim title. And as everybody pointed out, and I agree, Mike Nolan's 49ers would have lost this game. Even when things started going a bit haywire, the team maintained its composure and I attribute that in part to the veterans and in larger part to Coach Singletary.
We'd probably all prefer to see the 49ers win blowouts and take care of business early. At the same time, there's something satisfying about your team gutting out a tough win on the road. As much as I'd like to see the 49ers shock the world and storm back to take the NFC West, I'm not holding my breath. The team just needs to show me continued improvements. Even with all the mistakes, going on the road and beating a .500+ team is an improvement no matter how you look at it.
I'd like to close though by presenting game balls to Rian Lindell and J.P. Losman. Lindell shanked a pair of field goals off the uprights and the first miss may have led in part to Dick Jauron's decision to go for it on 4th down later. Maybe that had nothing to do with it, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me if it did. Leaving six points on the board was huge. As for Losman, he single handedly created a pass rush for the 49ers. When Edwards was in, even though he was throwing ugly incompletions, he seemed to have time in the pocket. Losman, on the other hand, seemed to get impatient and get happy-feet. A few moves and he was running into his own linemen and 49ers defensive linemen much of the second half. Whatever though, I'll take it any way I can get it.
Thanks to everybody who took part in the game thread. It was a stomach-churner of a game, but we certainly do enjoy a win and it's always fun shanking somebody else's playoff chances. Participants are listed after the jump and as always, check out the SB Nation NFL Hub at the link in the graphic for your up to date league info.
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| Bob On The Coast | 23 |
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| drink409 | 9 |
| TripTheNinja | 8 |
| AndYourBirdCanSing | 5 |
| ramius | 5 |
| Grumpy Guy | 4 |
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Defense wins championships...oh wait
it also wins games…I really don’t care how bad the offense played, I didnt really expect to see a lot of points put up once I heard the weather report(we can barely do that on dry ground). I listened to the entire game on NFL mobile for sprint(since east coast never shows 49er games) and I was estactic that THE defense won the game for us. (but good job Bruce best pick up for the year for us) Yes they struggled on 3rd downs like they have all year but they buckled down in the red zone and that is what matters. Like you mentioned under nolan we would have found a way to lose that game; I have seen improvements the last 3 weeks…as Bill Goldberg use to say…
WHO"S NEXT????
P.S. Game ball goes to Andy Lee for averaging over 48 yards per punt in messy conditions.
by ninerfanNVA on Nov 30, 2008 2:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
was it that messy?
MM mentioned that also, but to me in looked dry – am I blind?
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by wjackalope on Nov 30, 2008 5:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Game conditions
It was wet, you must be blind ;) Seriously, though, it wasn’t pouring, but it was a steady drizzle after the first 10 minutes or so. The field conditions were alright, but I wondered if that influenced their decision to put the ball in Frank’s hands so many times today (24 carries!). Anybody know if Shaun Hill has small hands like Alex Smith?
by grantmp on Nov 30, 2008 5:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rain + Cold = Difficult to play.
I think that it wasn’t just the rain. I don’t know the exact temperature, but I’d imagine it was fairly cold there too. Catching a wet ball is already difficult. Imagine if the leather hardened because of the cold as well.
by sfgfan on Dec 1, 2008 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Game ball
Andy Lee kicked the heck out of the ball today. I was at the game today, and every time he unleashed one of his boomers, the two rabid Bills fans behind me just oohed and aahed. Apparently the didn’t hear about Lee’s ridiculous 40yds+ net avg. from last year. Moorman, the Bills’ 2-time Pro Bowl punter, on the other hand, really struggled—though the first one wasn’t really his fault, since he did well to even get it away after it came to him on a short hop. The moment I saw Lee’s last punt set the Bills up at their own 20-yard-line (and JP Losman line up behind center) I knew the game was over.
by grantmp on Nov 30, 2008 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
way to bring home a win!
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by wjackalope on Nov 30, 2008 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the W
Yeah, though coming home with this particular win feels a little like coming home from a Black Friday sale, complete with the discount-rate goods, the long (border) line-ups, and the exhaustion. Then again, when times are tough (and oh, they are tough), and you get what you need, it’s still pretty satisfying!
by grantmp on Nov 30, 2008 8:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Derek Anderson might be done for the year
Ken Dorsey gets another chance to start. Amazing.
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by Fooch on Nov 30, 2008 2:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
go Matadors?
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by wjackalope on Nov 30, 2008 5:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
actually
that’s kind of how I feel also. when I was in high school they beat us at everything. but i also have some good friends that went there so I can’t hate it too much.
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by wjackalope on Dec 1, 2008 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And how did the former niner QB perform during the game?
Like a former niner QB of late should… One of his first passes was an interception…
The more things change…
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Dec 1, 2008 9:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
quick question...
am i wrong in thinking that the niners pass rush would be so much better if roderick green, parys haralson, and ray mcdonald were on the field more? it seems like these guys are the only defenders that have a knack for sacking the quarterback, yet i see mcdonald lined up at DT all the time, i see haralson dropping into coverage, and i see green standing next to the gatorade table on the sideline. why????
by Florida Danny on Nov 30, 2008 2:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
McDonald
I think the team really likes him. I think they may actually be trying to move him around, similar to the way they move Justin Smith around. What is interesting, to me, is that I sometimes see him and Smith on the same side, and they seem to wreak havoc on the offensive lineman with their speed and stunts.
Nevertheless, I really have no complaints with him coming from the inside. He’s not a pure speed rusher, so he doesn’t HAVE to be outside. He’s got some skill to get push from the inside in passing situations.
As for the other two, I have nothing but REALLY vague speculation, rather than just the plain ol’ speculation I have for McDonald. I think they drop Haralson back from time to time to keep the offense on their toes. You know, so they don’t necessarily expect Haralson to come all the time, so he may have some opportunities to come free (not that I’ve even seen that happen for him, though).
by sfgfan on Dec 1, 2008 11:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
49ers beat Bills Big freaking deal
I wonder how long it will be until I get tired of this joke.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Nov 30, 2008 2:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully Never
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Dec 1, 2008 9:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
All you homers on this site who are so ready to print off playoff tickets because the Niners beat the Bills, it’s time to get real! Every one of you on this site seem to think the playoffs are a sure thing, just because we beat the Bills, and we might even make it to the Super Bowl! Well I have a news flash for you Walter Cronkites…
…
…
…
We aren’t.
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Dec 1, 2008 10:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
correct me if i'm wrong but...
Isn’t this the first win of the season for any west coast team to travel to the East Coast and play at 10am? I’m pretty sure that’s true…
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by StrictlyFootball on Nov 30, 2008 2:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Correct
That’s the first for anybody and only the 4th time in 31 tries for the 49ers since Mariucci was canned.
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by Fooch on Nov 30, 2008 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that can't be right...
…they were 0-8 under nolan in the eastern time zone (1-4 in the central)…unless you’re talking about the record for all west coast teams since 2003, which coincides with marriucci’s departure. the mariucci reference makes me think you’re talking specifically about the niners though. clarification por favor?
by Florida Danny on Nov 30, 2008 2:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
correction:
1-4 vs. the central teams that are east of the mississippi
by Florida Danny on Nov 30, 2008 3:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Clarification
Poorly written sentence on my part. I meant that it was the first for any west coast NFL team this season and specifically for the 49ers only the 4th time in 31 tries since Mariucci was canned. Make more sense?
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by Fooch on Nov 30, 2008 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ok, but if nolan was 0-8...
…then you’re telling me that erickson was 4-23 at 10 am in 2 seasons as HC???? the way you wrote it up in the story makes more sense…that the niners are now 4-27 in their past 31 at 10 a.m., regardless of the head coach.
by Florida Danny on Nov 30, 2008 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
correction on erickson fail:
4-17
by Florida Danny on Nov 30, 2008 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
correction on Danny fail...
4-19
by Florida Danny on Nov 30, 2008 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm
According to Maiocco’s story from yesterday, the 49ers were 3-27 since 2003 in those 10am pacific time starts (obviously not including today’s win).
Mariucci was fired after 2002 so I guess Erickson really was that awful. Looking at their schedules in 2003 and 2004, there seem to be a sufficient number of those games to add up.
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by Fooch on Nov 30, 2008 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh, so we're just talking 10 a.m. starts...
…which means that 10 a.m. games outside of the eastern time zone also count. the niners have played a total of 46 road games (including today) since mooch was canned…so 31 of the 46 road games since 2002 were 10 a.m. starts? i guess that sounds reasonable. ok, so i’ve figured it out after a little research…
they’re 10-36 (21.7%) overall on the road since mooch
they’re 4-27 (12.9) at 10 a.m. since mooch, of which they’re in the 2-14 (12.5) in the eastern time zone and 2-13 (13.3%) in the central time zone.
you’re welcome. :-)
by Florida Danny on Nov 30, 2008 4:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maiocco and the announcers need to hire you to clear this crap up
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by Fooch on Nov 30, 2008 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i should add...
the non-10 a.m. games:
1-0 (100.0%) in east at 4 p.m.
0-1 (0.0%) in central at 8:30 p.m.
2-6 (25.0%) in pacific
3-2 (60.0%) in mountain
by Florida Danny on Nov 30, 2008 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
so
we’re good against… Arizona and Denver?
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by wjackalope on Nov 30, 2008 4:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
denver and...
arizona after the time change…they’re in pacific until we go back to standard time because they don’t observe daylight savings time.
by Florida Danny on Nov 30, 2008 5:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
stupid arizona
get with the program
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by wjackalope on Nov 30, 2008 5:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
or perhaps is it that...
the niners are now 4-27 on the road since mooch was canned? no, wait…that can’t be right because they’re actually 10-36…i’m trying here. :-)
by Florida Danny on Nov 30, 2008 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WE WON OH MY GOD WE WON!
boy does it feel good to be wrong.
couple of things – the secondary deserves a lot of credit for locking down the receivers and giving our slow developing pass rush a chance to make something happen. All those sacks were pretty much coverage sacks and Losman not knowing when to tuck it and run.
Also, we saw on the first drive what the offense can do when they get to manageable 3rd downs and convert. By my count we had 3, maybe 4 consecutive 3rd down conversions, and that’s why we made it to the end zone. The OL did enough to protect on the pass plays (didn’t do much on running plays) and Hill found the right guy most of the time. It’s a far cry from the greatest show on turf, but the niners/martz offense can do something, sometimes.
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by wjackalope on Nov 30, 2008 3:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
fuck
the late INT returned 89 yards and subsequent TD for the steelers really messed up my prediction. If NE scored there I would have been looking pretty good, instead, I’ve got a slim chance at 3rd place.
NOT a good week so far.
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by wjackalope on Nov 30, 2008 4:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think I tied for first in the Giants-Redskins game, but besides that I’ve been doing pretty bad.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Nov 30, 2008 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you must have looked at other people's scores
I’m too self centered to do that
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by wjackalope on Nov 30, 2008 4:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Or you could just make predictions like I do and just assume that you didn’t get any points.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Nov 30, 2008 6:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not enough other people's scores, apparently
Now I think I tied for second.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
by groug on Nov 30, 2008 7:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh boy
it’s 24-14. If the Bears kick 2 FGs and the Vikes don’t score in the 4th, I’ll have that perfect prediction I’ve been looking for. Knock on wood.
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by wjackalope on Nov 30, 2008 7:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Vikings in their throwbacks
aka looking like a professional team again
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by wjackalope on Nov 30, 2008 5:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Managed the game.
Hill managed the game. Even when Gore got two yards it took time off the clock and gave the defense another breath. And it pulled more Bills into the box, thus helping the receivers on passing plays.
The defense still played soft too much. But at least they tightened up things inside the 20.
I still want to know what needs to be done for Vernon Davis to learn that he has to keep his helmet on his head. He also had another false start.
The team did was needed to beat a slightly better than mediocre team, and on the road. That makes it their best win of the year. Let’s see if they can ruin Brett Favre’s post-season ambitions next week.
by Bob On The Coast on Nov 30, 2008 6:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
it's called a chin-strap
I think the Niners uniform staff need to install a chin-strap on Davis’ helmet with a combination lock. Of course then he’d NEVER get it off (too harsh?)—but maybe that’s not such a bad thing.
by grantmp on Nov 30, 2008 7:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
how about
some props for to Nedney, for nailing a 51 yarder in those conditions. It’s especially awesome since he hit that one and LOLindell missed two from close distance.
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
by 49erLou on Nov 30, 2008 7:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
props Nedney
props
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by wjackalope on Nov 30, 2008 7:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
gotta say
I’m decently impressed with the 9’ers red zone D this year, especially under Singletary.
by fwoty oz on Nov 30, 2008 8:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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