8 Step Offseason Plan
1) Coaching and Scheme: Keep the coaching staff together and try to build continuity. While some may not like Martz, he has improved an offense that was historically bad last season (statistically in the bottom five in league history). Yes, there were a lot of turnovers and sacks when "Just Turnovers" was refusing to throw the ball away. However, since Nolan's firing and the Hill replacement the offense has looked solid. We should give this group another year to come together and show what they can do.
As far as Singletary goes, he may or may not be the best coach for this team, but I believe he deserves a shot. A three year contract should do it.
2) Cuts: Jennings, Sims and TBC
3) Do not resign: JTO, Jaime Martin, Duckett
4) Resignings: B. Johnson (2 year deal, #3 receiver money), Alex Smith (lowball offer for 3 years), Rossum (1 year deal, same deal as last year), Spikes (1 year deal, same deal as last year), Eric Heitman (4 year deal, starting C money), Tony Wragge (3 year deal, backup guard money), Keasey (1 year deal, minimum), Fields (2 year deal, minimum)
5) Signings: JP Losman (if Alex doesn't resign for the lowball offer) and Albert Haynesworth (whatever it take$ - picking up Haynesworth will improve the play of the entire front seven by attracting attention, and blockers, from the opposing offense)
6) Roster Status after above moves
QB - Hill, Smith/Losman
RB - Gore, Foster, Robinson
FB - Keasey
TE - VD, Walker, Bajema
LT - Staley (Synder)
LG - Bass (Wragge)
C - Heitman (Walace)
RG - Rachal (Wragge)
RT - ??? (Synder)
WR - Bruce, Johnson, Morgan, Hill and Battle
DE - Smith, McDonald, Balmer,
DT - Sopoaga, Franklin, Fields and Haynesworth (maybe)
LB - Willis, Lawson, Spikes, Brooks, Ulbrich, Green, Harralson
CB - Clements, Harris, Spencer, Strickland, Brown, Hudson, Smith
SS - M Lewis, K Lewis
FS - Roman, Goldson
7) Assuming we get Losman and Haynesworth, our weakest starter are Synder (RT), Roman (FS), Keasey (FB), Harralson (OLB), Harris (CB - but only because of age) and _____ (QB of the future)
8) Guys I like in the draft (this is probably a bit premature):
#1 pick (in the 8-15 range) in order of preference
- Matt Stafford or Sam Bradford (We're not getting either of these guys unless we trade up, and Bradford may not even declare, but if they drop for some reason we should grab them)
- Andre Smith (likely gone, top 5 pick), Michael Oher or Eugene Monroe (Stud LT/RTs to solidfy the line for the next 6 years - Heitman would be the oldest at 27)
- Terrance Cody (6'5", 370 DT) (absolutely huge NT would command a double team and free up Smith and our OLBs on the edge...but may not declare and only if we don't get Haynesworth)
- Rey Maualuga (6-3, 260. That's a lot of money invested on inside LBs, and it may not be a need with the possible development of Ahmad Brooks, but this guy is an absolute beast. Huge, powerful, fast, aggressive, strong interior blitzer, huge hitter, block shedder type. Would be perfect next to Willis.)
- Vontae Davis (Vernon's brother, a great CB prospect, could add a family element to the Davis drama) or Malcom Jenkins (the top CB prospect) (to replace the ageless Walt Harris...who might be able to transition to FS and take over Roman's job)
- I don't like any of the pass rushers available this year at the top of the draft (Orapko could be good, but he also has potential steroids suspension written all over him. He put on 50lbs of muscle in the past two years. I have also read about Everett Brown, but he just doesn't strike me of being worthy of a pick this high. Of course if we win out and we're picking closer to the number 15 pick than to the 9 pick, things may be different.)
#2 pick (in the 40ish range) in order of preference
- Taylor Mays (6'3", 230 playmaking S, HUGE upgrade over Mark "no picks in two years" Roman) (if we get him this late its an absolute steal)
- William Moore (playmaking FS, 6'1, 225, would be an upgrade over Roman, also likely gone by this point in the draft)
- Nate Davis (QB, Ball State) (also likely gone, but you never know with small school qbs...)
- Eben Britton, Ciron Black, Jason Smith, Russel Okung, Alex Boone, Phil Loadholdt (RT prospects at top of the second if we don't grab one in the first...I think we need to go OT with one of our first two picks...given that Mays, Moore and Nate Davis will likely be gone at this point, one of these tackles may be our best bet)
- BJ Raji (6'1", 325 DT) (second best NT prospect should be available in this range....but only if we don't get Haynesworth)
- One of the pass rushing OLBs: Greg Hardy, George Selvie or Jerrie Hugues (one of these guys will drop)
- Jeremy Maclin or Percy Harvin (if they drop this far, we could use the blazing speed and playmaking these guys bring)
- Brandon Spikes (6'3", 245 MLB, tough and good in coverage, to pair with Willis in 3-4...but not a big need)
Remaining Rounds: BPA, but I'd like a QB picked up at some point as well as a DB, a OLB/DE tweener, a OL for depth, and a big short yardage runner.
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I like most
Especially Keasey. The guy has athletic talent and drive—I hope he’s good to play, and I hope during his rehab he’s been doing what he can to master the FB position. It was clear he belongs on a field, he just hasn’t really ever played the FB position.
by Ninjames on Dec 10, 2008 2:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Keasey's dad
His dad wrote, ‘One flew over the CooCoo’s nest’, so he gets extra points in my book. Not that I don’t want Clayton either. :)
"We'd like to think that tickets will be hard to come by." Bill Walsh
by TripTheNinja on Dec 11, 2008 9:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts on your suggestions...
1) Keeping the coaching staff intact.
I think that this coaching staff should stay together. If Martz doesn’t stay, I would be VERY skeptical of what Singletary can do without him. Singletary better have a backup plan, in case that does happen.
2) Cuts: Jennings, Sims and TBC
I think Sims could be a useful backup tackle. If anything, I think you keep one of Jennings or Sims, you don’t unload both. The 49ers are only going to use one draft pick on an tackle (maybe two offensive linemen total), so why not keep Sims as a backup at a decent, especially considering he’s already signed through next season anyway.
3) Do not resign: JTO, Jaime Martin, Duckett
I can’t say I disagree with any of these. Duckett would be useful camp fodder, though, since he already knows the system.
4) Resignings: B. Johnson (2 year deal, #3 receiver money), Alex Smith (lowball offer for 3 years), Rossum (1 year deal), Spikes (1 year deal), Eric Heitman (4 year deal), Tony Wragge (3 year deal), Keasey (1 year deal), Fields (2 year deal)
I disagree with re-signing Bryant Johnson. He’s shown to be utterly useless this year while Josh Morgan and Jason Hill have shown more potential to be useful. Between Bruce, Jason Hill, Josh Morgan, and Arnaz Battle, the 49ers may only have an opening for a young receiver, and that spot may be already be taken by Zeigler.
I’m a little iffy on giving Heitmann a 4-year deal, because that would imply the bonus would be rather large. I also don’t think you can retain Wragge for 3-years at backup money. He’ll more than likely test the market if that’s all the 49ers are willing to offer (monetarily). The guy has shown he can possibly be a starter. He may sign for one year at a backup price, but no way he signs away three years of his life when he feels he can do better.
Lastly, Smith may restructure his deal and change his base salaries to incentives, but it’s still a very iffy proposition.
5) Signings: JP Losman , Albert Haynesworth
There are plenty of QBs to take a flier on. I don’t know if I would for sure take Losman out of the bunch. Haynesworth may or may not be worth the money it’ll take to sign him. Depending on what the 49ers plan to do with the rest of the defense, I would be a little wary about committing MORE guaranteed money into that defense.
6) Roster Status
As I pointed out above, Bryant Johnson is already useless on the 53-man this year, so there’s not point in bringing him back again next year.
If Sims is retained, it may make Wragge a little more disposable (which he may be already, because he may expect to be able to compete for starting time).
If the 49ers decide they’re going after Haynesworth, Fields is ultimately unnecessary. It’s also possible the team may cut loose Franklin instead. It all depends on what they’re going to do with their front 7 (3-4 or 4-3).
Also, it’s possible that Foster gets challenged by Clayton for the backup running back job next season.
7) Assuming we get Losman and Haynesworth, our weakest starter are Synder (RT), Roman (FS), Keasey (FB), Harralson (OLB), Harris (CB – but only because of age) and _ (QB of the future)
I don’t think Keasey is a bad fit at FB, heck he showed he could be pretty useful early on before his injury. Similarly, I don’t think Haralson would be the weaker OLB. If the 49ers go with a the 3-4, Haralson may ultimately be more useful than Lawson (based on what we’ve seen so far this year). Harris may not be a starter next season. If Hill is the starter in the SAME system with Martz calling the shots, I wouldn’t even really call the QB position a position of weakness.
8) Draft stuff
As has been said before, the first two picks will probably be best spent on outside rushers or guys in the trenches. It’s unlikely they go after a second ILB. If they do, then the team is planning on staying with a 3-4 and that makes Spikes and/or Ulbrich expendable. Going with a 3-4 (and taking an ILB with the first pick) may be a mistake though, as they would still need to find better pass rushers on the outside and a stout nose, still. Finding a player to fill one of those positions will be difficult enough as it is, let alone trying to find players that fill both.
Overall, your general idea seems to coincide with the general consensus of what the 49ers should do. I only disagree with a couple of points as I mentioned above. Very thorough first post, by the way.
by sfgfan on Dec 10, 2008 3:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Why
dont we give Shaun Hill a chance to start a whole season, hes done well enough to get us some respactability back. He can lead us to a divison title next year
by Dub4lif3 on Dec 10, 2008 5:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i think that's what he was saying
the Smith/Losman/drafted QB scenarios were backup options, I think.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2008 12:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that is what I'm saying.
Hill should be the starter. He will need a serviceable veteran backup. Smith can be that guy if he’s willing to restructure his deal. If not, he gets cut and we bring in a free agent. I threw out JP Losman as a potential guy for the back up role because he’s talented and young (albeit inconsistent), but by no means am I contending that Losman is the only guy that can fill that role.
That said, we should be drafting a QB this year to groom to be the eventual starter. I love the way Hill has been playing of late, but it remains to be seen if he can keep it up. Additionally, even if his recent play continues, he turns 29 next month. I realize that Farve is still playing well at age 39, but he’s the exception more than the rule. A young player that can be groomed for the next 3+ years makes sense.
by kiyoshi on Dec 12, 2008 12:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Response to sfgfan
While I agree that letting two OTs walk will leave us thin, Sims is way past the point in his career where he can be effective. He’s 34 years old and in the games he did play he got abused. Jennings, when healthy, is actually pretty good. But, as you know, he’s never healthy. Between these two options, I would prefer that we resign Wragge and keep Synder as a backup tackle. However, if Wragge takes the position that he should be paid like a staring NFL guard, and another team agrees, then we certainly shouldn’t pay him that money to be a backup. In that case, I agree that it would make sense to keep either Sims or Jennings. Between those two options, I suppose I’d rather keep Jennings. He’s far more effective and only costs $2 million/year more than Sims. Plus, one would think that he’d be less likely to get hurt as a backup to a highly drafted rookie (right?).
I see the Bryant Johnson cup as half full. He hasn’t had a great year, he has talent, is number two on the team in receiving yards, has had some good games, and, I think deserves more time in the system. While I agree that Hill and Morgan have shown a ton of potential, both have been hurt at different points in time this year. Having a talented, if inconsistent, player on board is not, in my view, a waste of a roster space.
Heitmann is a good starting center and is only 27. I think locking him up for a significant period of time (3-4 years) makes sense.
I agree that Smith may not agree to a restructing or may want to move on. If he wants to come back on a greatly reduced contract, I think he could be a serviceable backup. If he’s not willing to do that, he should be cut.
I do not have my heart set on Losman, but we will need a servicable backup if Smith is unwilling to rework his deal.
I agree that acquiring Haynesworth would make Franklin or Fields expendable. I also agree that a decision on whether to go 3-4 or 4-3 is a necessary precursor to any move. I’m working on the assumption that we retain the 3-4.
I mention Keasey as a weakness because of our inability to convert short yardage throughout the year, including before Keasey’s injury. That said, I agree that he’s somewhat useful and I’m aware that the big physical blocking fullback doesn’t really exist in the Martz system.
I like what Lawson brings more than Harralson. If we stick with the 3-4, we need a pass rusher that is more effective that Harralson currently is – as you mention regarding the draft. Additionally, if we move to the 4-3, Harralson would get very little PT, while Lawson would likely start.
Outside rushers and guys in the trenches are clearly the priority. That said, if we’re picking 15 and all of those guys are gone (the star QBs, the top OTs, and the top NT) I would rather go with a potential star at a position of lesser need (i.e. CB or ILB) than a lesser player at a position of greater need. I’m also highly skeptical of the pass rushers available this year and I am hesitant to invest a 1st round pick in one of them.
by kiyoshi on Dec 10, 2008 6:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Re:
The primary reason I don’t like Jennings as the backup is because you shouldn’t have an injury-prone backup. If there is anything a backup player must be (aside from not totally sucking) is being able to stay healthy. I’m not sure what Sims’ injury history is like, but I’d rather take a chance on that than Jennings, who hasn’t had a healthy season in ANY of his NFL seasons.
As for Johnson, you knock Hill and Morgan for their injuries but Johnson isn’t necessarily a healthy cup of tea either. Morgan got his chance to shine BECAUSE Johnson was hurt. I wouldn’t HATE it if Johnson was returned, I just seriously think that money (at least $1.5M to $2M) could go elsewhere.
I disagree with your assessment that the 4-3 would give Haralson very little playtime. Unless they find someone better, he’s almost a lock for any defensive end spot on a 4-man front during passing situations. He will basically become the team’s other Rod Green.
I agree with the “best player available” philosophy. As a matter of fact, I almost think that the team should not draft based on any (perceived) need in the first round, taking the best player (unless the player in a position of need isn’t THAT far off in their rankings).
As I said before, I think we generally agree, with just a few minor caveats between the two philosophies/suggestions.
Also, for future reference, you can hit the “reply” button that has a “+” sign next to it to reply to that person’s specific comment. It makes for cleaner conversation and you don’t have to type in “Response to ….”
by sfgfan on Dec 11, 2008 9:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Losman=money pit
When we had the Q&A with the Buffalo blogger, this is what he said about Losman:
“First, talent: you’ll be hard-pressed to find many quarterbacks more talented than this guy currently in the league. He’s mobile, an excellent athlete, has decent size for the position, and has one of the strongest arms in the game. Physically, he’s a specimen.
I’m not a fan of Losman for two reasons. One is that after several years in the league, he just still doesn’t get "it". He’s slow to read coverages. He forces too many balls and makes too many mistakes. For every "how did he do that?!" throw, you get three "why did he do that?" throws.
Secondly, he’s been rather lackadaisical this season when it comes to preparation. He’s mad that the Bills didn’t trade him this past off-season, instead choosing to keep him as a talented backup who knew our coaches and the system. But when he’s seen the field (and to be fair, that was only for most of one game in Arizona), he was unprepared and largely terrible. He’s given up – even while trying to prove his worth to a free agent market that usually picks up talented young quarterbacks quickly. I got some flack for this from the folks at Arrowhead Pride, but I don’t think there’s going to be an awful lot of interest for Losman once he hits the free agent market in March.”
What I don’t understand is why people keep thinking he’s a good quarterback. He’s clearly not. He’s significantly WORSE than Alex Smith, and when he came into the game for the Bills when we had a 10 point lead two Sundays ago, I suddenly felt pretty good about the 49ers chances. Losman holds onto the ball FAR too long, and if we’ve learned anything from JTO experience and the 49ers-Bills game, it’s that that only leads to turnovers and sacks (respectively). There’s a reason why Bill Simmons calls him J-Loss.
by grantmp on Dec 10, 2008 7:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’d sooner take Kyle Boller since he’ll be an FA.
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by Rishi on Dec 11, 2008 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I despise JP Loserman
this stems from the fact that he left UCLA after 4 months because he was not guaranteed the starting QB job as a true freshman. Rather than actually compete for the job (against what turned out to be a bunch of scrubs) he ran away to Tulane like the sniveling little baby that he is. As Bills fans have seen, he hasn’t grown up since then. I’m sure he tried to transfer to the Lions after the Bills told him he wouldn’t be starting, only to realize you can’t act like a spoiled baby in the NFL. The guy is a loser.
Also, if you were Alex Smith, wouldn’t you just want to get the hell out of San Francisco? That guy is in desperate need of a fresh start, I don’t think there is much of a chance of him coming back.
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 11, 2008 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
I agree that Smith may want a change of scenary. I also agree that Losman isn’t the greatest qb prospect in the world. But we’re going to need a veteran backup (who, by virtue of the fact that they’re backups, are likely to have some flaws) in case Hill goes down next year. Who, would you suggest to fill that role?
by kiyoshi on Dec 12, 2008 12:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Loserman is probably a perfectly good answer to be the backup QB. I just hate him on a personal level. I might prefer somebody like Rex Grossman (I’m not arguing that he is a great QB or anything, just saying that he would be a decent cheap backup). I really think it should not be Alex Smith, for everybody’s sake (most of all his).
by FluLikeSymptoms on Dec 12, 2008 12:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Heitmann
They resigned him until 2011 back on September 27:
http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2008/10/niners-sign-heitmann-to-contract-extension.html
So you want to ‘re-up’ with a player for one extra year?
by grantmp on Dec 10, 2008 7:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ok
How bout cut:
Battle(Zeigler makes better game breakers than he ever will. Plus! He SUCKS)
Roman
Keasey
Snyder should remain the starter at RT. He has been solid at the position once moved there.
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by maveric_87 on Dec 10, 2008 7:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Snyder and the Tackle positions
I think Snyder is still a liability at RT. Rachal’s playing better than Snyder, and Rachal’s a rookie. I agree with kiyoshi that RT is one of our weakest starting positions right now—because Jennings can’t stay healthy. It would make a huge difference to have a power guy on that side alongside Rachal. If only they’d drafted Carl Nicks instead of Cody Wallace. I think they should keep Sims, cut Jennings and address the RT position in the draft. Snyder’s a good utility back-up but not more.
by grantmp on Dec 10, 2008 8:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
I do think though that Snyder has progressed every game since being put at RT and thats why I support him as the starter. If there is someone better in the FA then I say try it out. Rachal will probably be a starter next year and will only get better. Good to see that a good amount of Nolans picks are making strides.
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by maveric_87 on Dec 10, 2008 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't feel we can cut Keasey
We need a fullback on the roster and Keasey can give us that. The guy belongs on a football field.
by Ninjames on Dec 10, 2008 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also...
Keasey is a hell of a special teams player… I think his versatility will earn him a spot for next year’s roster
Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.
by bayboy on Dec 11, 2008 7:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
I agree. I hope he stays healthy next season.
Second to None!
by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Dec 12, 2008 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean
what ninjames said.
Second to None!
by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Dec 12, 2008 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Highly unlikely...
… the team cuts Battle. He’s not a world-beater by any means, but he’s able to contribute to multiple facets of the team (WR, ST coverage AND returns, emergency QB). That makes him a valuable backup, if nothing else.
Roman shouldn’t be cut even IF they find a better starting FS. This may only be because I have very little faith in Goldson, but I think Roman understands his assignments and knows his teammates assignments very well. He isn’t a playmaker, but that kind of “solid” play makes him a perfect candidate for being the leading backup safety (instead of Keith “I can’t wrap and tackle OR cover” Lewis).
by sfgfan on Dec 11, 2008 9:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Battle is one of the most dependable, if unflashy, WRs we have. He fights for tough yards, practises hard, and does not drop the damn ball.
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by Rishi on Dec 11, 2008 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Before Howie can say it...
… he also has a cool website.
by sfgfan on Dec 11, 2008 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Battle
is hurt and not even playing lately and they have done just fine without him.
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by maveric_87 on Dec 12, 2008 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Heitmann
I didn’t realize they already resigned him. Thanks for the info grantmp.
by kiyoshi on Dec 11, 2008 9:34 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think it might be worth taking a flyer on Lorenzo Neal
Yeah, he’s old, but he’s proven he can help his running back succeed. LT can vouch for that this year. I think it would only help Gore.
Oh, and I am definitely down for a reasonable Haynesworth contract. I doubt he’ll sign for something reasonable, but hey, one can dream. There’s just too much money invested in the defense already.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Dec 11, 2008 12:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Martz' system really doesn't use the fullback
in the traditional lead blocker mold. He opens the field up with schemes and spreading the ball around through the passing game. Neal is better suited to the I or pro set formations.
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by pfzilla on Dec 12, 2008 9:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good post...
Mauluga won’t be available, but damn, I’d love him. I’d like if we picked up Zach “Pain Train” Follet in the later rounds.
Also, been thrown around, but #1 pick should not be thrown at a QB. Buff up the defensive line or even a top-notch CB is great. Hell, I’d love Mount Cody.
Third rounder on Curtis Painter or Hunter Cantwell = fine by me.
And, seriously, let’s pick up a fast RB in the later rounds too and make him a complement to Gore, then cut him in a couple years. Look at the impact Tashard Choice has had with the Cowgirls.
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by Rishi on Dec 11, 2008 1:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
re: Good post...
Its possible that Mauluga is drafted in the top 10, but its also possible that he drops due to team needs. We got Willis at 10 (if I remember correctly), and he was widely considered to be the best MLB prospect in the draft.
I would also prefer not to use a #1 on a QB, BUT in the extremely unlikely event Stafford or Bradford fall out of the top 10 I think we should take a BPA approach and draft them. I think my #1 preference is Andre Smith, but there’s no way he’s droping out of the top 5.
I really like the idea of adding a little lightning to Gore’s thunder with a late RB pickup.
by kiyoshi on Dec 12, 2008 12:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
I like Zach Follet and DJ Williams’ bro, Worrell.
Second to None!
by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Dec 12, 2008 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cantwell?
You must mean “Cant-throw-well” as we’ve come to know him here in Louisville. Look, he has a strong arm, but no touch, very mediocre at reading a defense, stares down his primary target and never makes it all the way through his progressions. Plus he’s got Dan Marino type immobility. He is tough as nails though. But I seriously wouldn’t even consider him before say the 5th round. 3rd is a MAJOR reach for a project that needs that much work.
by lacrosse_cat on Dec 13, 2008 9:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cut Roman!!!
Been saying it all year! He sucks! Atleast Keith Lewis would provide tackling and a few big hits. Roman is out of place every down.
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by maveric_87 on Dec 15, 2008 4:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't agree more.
I am sick and tired of watching this guy getting burned every week and looking totaly lost on the field.
Watching the Niners is like getting kicked in the Junk, that's why we wear a cup.
by pfzilla on Dec 15, 2008 10:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed!
I’ve been saying this since preseason… to badGoldson got hurt
Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.
by bayboy on Dec 17, 2008 7:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
RE: Safety
I’d be happy to get an upgrade at this position. Goldson may come back healthy this year even, but they need someone who a) won’t get beat deep like Roman has so disastrously this year and b) will make a few disruptive plays for heaven’s sake. We know what a difference a Polumalu or a Bob Sanders or an Ed Reed can make for a defense, and our current Safeties are VERY ho-hum. Part of it may be a scheme thing, but 2 years is a long time to go without a pick—especially at FS; it’s not like he’s playing as a 5th linebacker most of the time.
by grantmp on Dec 17, 2008 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Goldson
I agree that it sucks he got hurt. I think he would’ve taken that position from Roman fast considdering Romans piss-poor performance.
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by maveric_87 on Dec 18, 2008 4:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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