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Singletary: "I was born to coach."

I don't know about you, but I am excited about Mike Singletary. Hell of a coach, looks like.

A week ago he said that he feels better suited to coaching than playing. Quite a statement coming from a Hall of Fame linebacker who some peg as the best Middle Linebacker ever.

"I am having the time of my life," Singletary said Wednesday as the 49ers (4-8) began preparations for Sunday's visit from the New York Jets.

"This is what I was born to do," he continued. "There is absolutely no doubt in my mind. ... I'm enjoying it simply because of the staff and because of the players. When you've got players like that and a staff like that, it makes it fun."

He's got players who believe in him like no coach before us. I can't remember anyone who got this kind of praise coaching for the Niners:

"He's a great motivator, but that's just one of his strengths," defensive back Donald Strickland said. "Everybody in this locker room has great respect for him, and the coaching staff has kept us in position to win games. Making a coaching change in the middle of the season could have been a distraction, but everybody here has kept working hard, and (Singletary) just increased our confidence all around."

I think we're set up for great things with Samurai Mike in charge.

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NO BRAINER

Singletary as a HC is a no brainer. He played under two of the best coaches in the NFL (Ryan & Ditka) as was pretty much a player-coach under Ryan.

I laughed whn he threw Vernon Davis out of that game. I knew what was going on there. Something similar happened to Singletary in his rookie year. During a preseason game, a bunch of Mike’s family and friends came up to Chicago for the game. Singletary called a time out on the first series of the game and Buddy Ryan benched him for the ENTIRE GAME!

Mike said later that it was the “most humiliated” he ever was as a player. He hated Buddy after that.

That said:

A) He NEVER made that mistake again.
B) He went on to a HOF career and grew to “love” Buddy.
C) And he credits that benching with helping him get to the HOF.

I saw Singletary “teaching” Vernon that day the same way Buddy “taught” Mike a long time ago.

I’m not saying that he’ll be the greatest coach in NFL history. I WILL say that he’ll AT LEAST be better than half the guys in this league from the get-go (guys like Wade and Norv and Herm and so on and so forth).

by GeoMak on Dec 10, 2008 7:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

A) He NEVER made that mistake again.

What were the chances he was ever going to do that again, anyway. I don’t think I’ve EVER seen a timeout called on the first drive, and I’ve seen a lot of bad / stupid / inexperienced / unthinking / etc. players in my day.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Dec 11, 2008 12:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know...

… this is Ninjames territory, but I thought it would fit in this discussion nicely.

Lowell Cohn has a VERY nice conversation with Singletary about his “Life Notebook.”

by sfgfan on Dec 11, 2008 9:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

RE: HE NEVER MADE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN

Nice of you to point that out on my post. Basically it was comment on “making stupid mistakes” in general as to “making a singular stupid mistake.”

But you are correct in your “point.”

Just curious though: Is that the most Intelligent comment you can make aboout my post?

by GeoMak on Dec 11, 2008 11:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t see what was unintelligent about my comment. When I saw you were offended, I briefly thought, “oh crap, did I give him trouble over three words he wrote that had almost nothing to do with his post.” Then i read it and I saw that your whole comment was, in fact, based on that example. And I’m sorry, but saying that a guy never made a mistake again that 99% of players never make to begin with isn’t a good example of learning from your mistakes, in my eyes. Even without a benching, I bet Singletary NEVER does that again. So he learned a bit of tough love. Do I really believe that if Mike Singletary didn’t get benched that one time, that he wouldn’t have been a HOF player? It’s a nice thing for him to say, but it’s a bit out there. And the benching of Davis obviously had a similar impact since, you know, he only got flagged for the same stupid kind of mistake he got benched for a couple of times since then.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2008 11:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I “apologize’ if I got overly offended by your comment. I think you took it a bit too literally. While the example I gave actually happened, it was meant to point out any stupid mistakes, not just necessarily one in particular. Buddy used to say that he wanted guys who were "smart and tough . . . cause a dumb guy’ll get you beat and a coward’ll get you beat.” So he eliminated those guys.

And I respectfully disagree with your point that Singletary would have been a HOF player without Buddy. Without Buddy my assumption would be that he would have been a good, MAYBE great player. With Buddy he WAS great. That’s because, in the NFL, coaching matters and teams/systems matter.

Buddy was the classic “drill sergeant” as a coach. Probably because he was a sergeant in the Korean war at age 18 or 19. He was BRUTAL with his players. Most hated him until they came around to what he was thinking/doing. When he became the HC with the Eagles in ‘86 most of his player couldn’t stand him for a long time. There was an old saying in Philly at that time: “mixed emotions was watching Buddy drive over a cliff in your new car.”

They finally came around to respecting and appreciating Buddy when he had their backs during the players strike (instead of the scabs). But to Buddy it didn’t really matter. He was going to coach his way and anybody that didn’t like it was going to sit on the bench or could get the Hell out.

Coaching matters as does the system. Would Singletary have been as successful if he wasn’t coached by Buddy (the drill sergeant) and wasn’t part of the 46 defense? I don’t think so. He still would have been successful, but I don’t think as much. How much of a gap there would have been I’m not sure, but there would’ve been one. No doubt in my mind. Mike was LUCKY that he ended up being coached by Buddy. Not only was Buddy the greatest DC in NFL history, he was also the linebackers coach with the Bears. Yeah, Mike literally HATED Buddy for a while, but grew to LOVE him as a man/coach/father figure.

In fact, there have only been TWO coaching geniuses in the past quarter century (at least from an X’s and O’s standpoint). That would be Bill Walsh on offense and Buddy Ryan on defense.

I used to say the same thing about Montana. If Montana hadn’t been drafted by the 49’ers and played under Walsh, would he have ended up being “Joe Montana?” Not quite, in my opinion. If he had played for the Cardinals or the Bengals or the Bucs would we look at Montana in the same light? I don’t think so. If Steve Young had never escaped Tampa Bay I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t have ended up being “Steve Young.”

Coaching MATTERS as does the team/system.

Though I’m originally from Chicago I now (unfortunately) live in Phoenix. Over a decade ago I became friends with a family in South Phoenix whose son was a star player at Oregon and ended up being drafted by the Cowboys. He used to tell me some stories about what went on behind the scenes with the Cowboys.

These players in the NFL are really just “big kids.” Literally. Even though most of them are HUGE they’re really just kids in their 20’s. And, like most “kids” a lot of them need a good, swift kick in the ASS sometimes! And deep down, most of them respect that and respond to that cause most kids want some discipline and structure in their lives as it makes them feel wanted and needed and “loved.”

It was kind of funny that while “some” in the media were ripping Mike after the Vernon Davis incident, I saw Davis hugging Singletary on the sideline after a great catch soon thereafter and later on saying that Singletary “was the best coach he ever had.”

In closing (finally) I guess all I was trying to say was that, if people didn’t know or understand the linkage between Singletary and Buddy Ryan and Mike Ditka they might not understand his “MO.” All I can say is that any team that has Mike Singletary on the sidelines as head coach will be getting the MOST out of their players (at least the ones that are worth a damn and worth (eventually) having around)!

by GeoMak on Dec 15, 2008 6:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Davis/Singletary

I agree with you on the point about Vernon Davis. He seems like a good enough person but he’s just immature and needs a kick in the butt. A disciplinarian coach is exactly what he needs. If the team went out and grabbed Pete Carroll, or someone of that ilk, Davis would do what he wants and act like a 5 year old. With Singletary you can see him slowly turning into a man. He may still have hands of stone, but at least he’s cutting out some of the immature stuff.

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by Fooch on Dec 15, 2008 6:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point...

I think Pete Carroll will never be an outstanding HC in the NFL because of that reason.

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by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Dec 18, 2008 7:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I definitely agree with you that coaching matters, and for many of the reasons that you give. I don’t agree with everything you say about Singletary and Ryan as a duo (for instance, I’m not saying there is a scenario in which Singletary doesn’t flake out, but I just don’t see a guy with that talent and that drive to improve missing out on greatness simply because of a different coach – unless that coach really stinks), but I think we’d both agree that I’ve done enough example-nit-picking for this, that last parenthetical aside :).

I’m glad you responded to me again because you made it clear that I was taking you far too closely to the one example, when you were using it as a way to speak much more broadly about things that I think we’re actually pretty close on.

I aplogize for any misunderstandings here. I agree that coaching matters. I agree that the system matters. And I agree that both of them are no small part of success. The fact that I misread your intent was unfortunate.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Dec 15, 2008 7:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that Singletary would’ve been probably been “great” no matter what but playing in Buddy’s ‘46’ scheme (and winning a Super Bowl) sure didn’t hurt. I think even Mike would agree with that.

Personally I HATE laid back, players coaches (like Wade & Norv among others). At least as HC’s. I kinda want my HC to be a prick (like Ditka, Ryan & Parcells). My perception of the late great Bill Walsh is that, even though he looked more like a professor than an NFL coach, he had NO PROBLEM being a real prick when needed. In some perverse way players respond to that (at least any players you’d really want to have on your team long-term).

You guys (in S.F.) are real lucky having Singletary as HC. Even though I’m a Bears fan I have watched all of the Niner’s games since Mike took over. Since Singletary took over most of the Bears & Niners games have been on at different times, so it hasn’t been a problem for me. The one time they overlapped, I believe, was when the Niners played the Cowboys & the Bears played the Rams. I watched the entire Cowboys/Niners game as I knew the Bears would beat the Rams (I did skip over to the Bears game a few times when the Niners game was in commercial).

Trust me, it’s really not easy for a Bears/Buddy Ryan fan to root for the Niners but I’m really pulling for Mike to succeed. I’m actually really enjoying watching the team grow under Singletary. I guess it’s true what they say: God does work in mysterious ways!

Last week one of the beat writers (Nancy Gay) wrote an article pushing for the hiring of Scott Pioli as GM. I emailed her (and she replied back to me).

All the Yorks have to do, if they want to restore the greatness of Niners teams long past is:

A) Make Singletary the permanent HC.
B) Bring in Pioli to run the front office.
C) Keep Martz as OC.
D) Make those guys offers they can’t refuse and then GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY.

It’s a no-brainer! Any talk of Holmgren is a mistake. This team needs a “new school” GM and HC with a clear line drawn between the two positions ( as it has been in New England. A team most people HATE but everyone RESPECTS)!

If Holmgren was the GM he’d want to interfere with the HC. If he was the HC he’d want to interfere with the GM. If he had both jobs that would clearly be a mistake. He was a pretty average (at best) GM and, although he’s an excellent HC, it sure didn’t hurt his resume to have Favre and Reggie White on his team in GB.

Singletary, Pioli and Martz = playoff success and a return to the Super Bowl in short order IMHO.

And even though I’m a Singletary fan and a believer in defense first, I just can’t help but like the “mad scientist.” Martz is like that BEAUTIFUL, yet “slightly” crazy women that most guys can’t resist. I think the two Mikes could work well together and bring out the best in each other (ala Ditka & Ryan . . . with a LOT less friction).

Even though I think a team needs a strong running game, you have to be able, as Jaws always says, to “make plays in the passing game.” Martz has the ability to draw up successful schemes with whatever talent he has at his disposal.

Those three guys as GM, HC & OC, along with a few quality drafts and possibly some free agents, would set your franchise up for years of success.

by GeoMak on Dec 15, 2008 8:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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