San Francisco 49ers @ Miami Dolphins Open Thread
by David Fucillo on Dec 14, 2008 8:50 AM PST
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Date: December 14, 2008
Time: 10:00am PST
Location: Dolphins Stadium Miami, CA
Records: 49ers (5-8) Dolphins (8-5)
Bodoglife.com Spread: 49ers +7; Over/Under 44.5; Money Line: 49ers +230, Dolphins -270 - Win and the over as my contest prediction shows
Weather: 76°, 0% chance of rain, Wind E 17 mph
TV Broadcast: FOX - Sam Rosen, Tim Ryan, Chris Myers
Radio: 107.7 The Bone, 680/1050 KNBR - Joe Starkey, Gary Plummer, Rod Brooks
Spanish Radio: KIQI 1010-AM, KATD 990-AM - Fernando Arias and Ambrosio Rico
Dolphins Coverage: The Phinsider
Week 15 Prediction Contest - Remember that if you don't get predictions in for the morning games you can still enter predictions for later games and get credit. You get credit for any predictions entered by kickoff of the given game. So, if you forget today, you can still predict the MNF game.
Injuries
49ers: Probable - C Eric Heitmann (abdominal strain), S Dashon Goldson (knee), KR/PR Allen Rossum (ankle), CB Nate Clements (hand), CB Marcus Hudson (concussion); Questionable - RB Frank Gore (ankle); Out - WR Arnaz Battle (foot)
Dolphins: Probable - CB Jason Allen (hand)
Inactives
49ers: QB Jamie Martin, RB Frank Gore, LB Roderick Green, C Cody Wallace, CB Reggie Smith, T Jacob Bender, S Dashon Goldson
Dolphins: Q John Beck, WR Chris Hannon, FB Casey Cramer, G Shawn Murphy, DE Lionel Dotson, LB Quentin Moses, T Nate Garner, DE Rodrique Wright
Editor's Note: Barrows wrote in his game day live blog that Rossum won't return punts. Not sure why he's inactive then. We'll see what the updates bring.
Well, the folks at The Phinsider have been talking all sorts of smack. Apparently there's no way the 49ers can win this game. It's gonna be a tough one to win that's for sure. When the 49ers went into Buffalo to win, the Bills struggled for much of the game, which was a big key. I doubt the Dolphins start off as slow. Of course, if Frank Gore is out, that certainly makes things a little more difficult. Either way, I'll be rockin my Patrick Willis jersey, so here's hoping for good things.
GO NINERS!
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Lets go, Niners..
I’ve missed tons of sleep due to work and the Nuggets I should under no circumstances be awake right now. So… we better win, because I’m staying up.
10am
At least it’s an early game.
And as to your Nuggets, I know why you really want this game: Those rat-bastahds at The Phinsider!
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by David Fucillo on Dec 14, 2008 8:56 AM PST up reply actions
That's exactly why.
I tried to have class, really I did. I even liked the Dolphins at one point. They’re now on my list. You know the one, the short one with the Cowboys.
And yeah, I’m glad its early. I’ve had the misfortune of getting a job from 8:30-11:30 and the Nuggets are at 3:00. But I’m managing just fine on non-football days. Sunday is gonna be wicked slow for me.
And you know
I’ll be happy for ‘em if they win. They need it, I want to see just how “humble” they’ll be. I hate terrible fans and I gotta say no matter how good they do I’m going to be so stoked when they totally blow it in the post-season (if they make it that far) and when they go 1-15 again next season.
At any rate none of that matters cause you know, we’re going to win.
Totally agree...
…keep your integrity and there’s only one winner. I read all their comments yesterday and was dismayed – put my opinion in a comment in the prediction game post.
GO NINERS!
by Ninerfromacrossthepond on Dec 14, 2008 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
Man they've got me to the point where I'm recording the whole game to my hard drive
So I can make a nice little highlight video to spam at them when we completely destroy them.
That or I could look like a fool come game over. At any rate, I’d love to have Vernon Davis trucking Joey Porter or something on a Godly screen to post over there.
Be sure to "spam" that video over at us whenever you get the chance;
especially the Niner’s final offensive snap. lol
I’m just messing. Great game. I was really impressed with how good your Niners are playing. And I hope Singletary stays as HC.
Good luck in your final 2 games, guys!
Completely agree...
… I was actually enjoying Miami’s turnaround this year, but after seeing what a bunch of dickheads they have on their fan site, now I’m going to enjoy them missing the playoffs or getting hammered in the first round.
-- Jay T.
yeah
im rather surprised the Dolphins fans were the ones acting like jerks. I expected that from the Cowgirls blog. Dolphins fans are at the top of my list for moronic fans now. seriously they were 1-15 last year.
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Live stream of the game
It looks like this is the justin.tv page for the game:
http://www.justin.tv/playmaker14
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Thanks v much for that
I’ve been trying to find it everywhere.
by Ninerfromacrossthepond on Dec 14, 2008 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
no problem
I even posted it at The Phinsider as an olive branch!
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by David Fucillo on Dec 14, 2008 9:19 AM PST up reply actions
Nice gesture Fooch
Hopefully they don’t use the olive branch as a club. Though I enjoyed the one guy who posts……like this…….as if……every comment is so intense…….He must breath heavily…….between thoughts…….or his keyboard may explode as he pounds……..tooo…..hard on the…………keys…….RRRRRRR!
Rome
It makes it seem like he’s making some dramatic point, when in reality he’s just stating the obvious (one reason I don’t like his show).
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by David Fucillo on Dec 14, 2008 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
Davis-Porter
And so it begins (from Barrows blog):
12:14 p.m. Wow! Already a lot of jaw-jacking (as Mike Singletary phrases it) between Joey Porter and Vernon Davis. The exchange was initiated by Porter as the teams were coming out of the locker room. He approached Davis and started jawing at him. A few seconds later, Davis returned the favor. No fisticuffs, mind you, but the officials were poised to step in if there were.
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MMS?
Some posted a link and when I clicked it said it wasn’t associated with any program. Any ideas?
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by David Fucillo on Dec 14, 2008 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
No idea
All I know is that you have to click on the link within 20 seconds of the posting or it doesn’t work.
I’m watching right now on Windows Media Player. Much clearer picture and no lags.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
HD
I bought a 32" HDTV earlier this week, so this is my first 49ers game in HD!
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Me talking to a Dolphins fan in AIM chat
" Good luck. But for the next couple of hours I hate you with every fiber of my being. You understand."
Him: “I understand.”
Good stuff.
Really? Run on 3rd and long?
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Neglectful father of David Quinowski
hmmm
Surprised they’d go so conservative. Guess they have enough faith in the D.
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Lewis and Roman...WTF?
Roman did have him in good coverage, but then Lewis seemed to stop for a second. What was Michael Lewis thinking?
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Or Goldson can get healthy
And he can finally take the job next year
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by David Fucillo on Dec 14, 2008 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
overload blitz on the right side, and they picked everyone up cleanly
isolated Roman on his guy…an obvious mismatch =\
try this
http://www.mogulus.com/gametimesports
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no problem
hope it works ok
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they must have read
the Phinsider
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The Dodgers do suck.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 14, 2008 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Don’t jinx it.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 14, 2008 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
3!
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 14, 2008 10:25 AM PST reply actions
JTO would have 7 different completion to 7 guys though..
half of them to the opposing DBs
by baybruin415 on Dec 14, 2008 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
What a terrible call by the ref in the KC-SD game.
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our secondary is terrible
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We can’t stop them at all.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 14, 2008 10:33 AM PST reply actions
Franklin
Playing like a man possessed the last few weeks
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Good morning, everyone!
Aubrayo does it again!
Is it just me or should we be looking for an upgrade at Mark Roman’s position?
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 10:34 AM PST reply actions
no it's not just you
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nice job Franklin
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3rd and 21. Please stop
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 14, 2008 10:37 AM PST reply actions
Solid pressure, solid coverage
Zeigler gets a crack at a punt return…hold your breath
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Man, that must be the scariest thing
Hasn’t had to return a kick since high school.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
if we can pull this one out we definitely
look like we have a chance to win out
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in a blowout?
As long as the game is competitive I’d say maybe a few times at most.
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by David Fucillo on Dec 14, 2008 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Throw it away, if you have to.
What’s the injury report on Snyder?
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 10:41 AM PST reply actions
left ankle sprain
Return is questionable
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by David Fucillo on Dec 14, 2008 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
How did
the Niners get the opening kickoff and in the second quarter the wind is blowing against them?
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 10:43 AM PST reply actions
deferred to second half maybe?
Is it possible they elected to kick off and defer to second half so no choice on wind?
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by David Fucillo on Dec 14, 2008 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
I'd just like to give Brian Jennings some props
He’s the best LS in the league and consistently gets down field to make tackles on punt returns
good call
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by David Fucillo on Dec 14, 2008 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
INT
Second week in a row two 49ers DB collide and break up their own INT
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GET OUT OF THE WAY ROMAN!
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 14, 2008 10:46 AM PST reply actions
that's what happens
when a guy hasn’t returned punts since hs
ugh
ziegler should have let that one go…
good chance that would have gone into the end zone…why down it inside the 5 for them?
Zeigler shoulda let the ball drop
Worse case it’s 3 yards back on the 1, best case it gets into the end zone
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since when does ginn not return punts
i understand that now he’s a starting wr and they typically play less on special teams but he’s still returning KO and those are usually first to go before PR
TEs
Might wanna cover those tight ends a little better
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Ah...
Pennington just sidestepped someone and hit the tight end.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 10:57 AM PST reply actions
aren't our guys supposed to stop them from catching the ball?
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A TE that can catch the ball? What?
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 14, 2008 10:57 AM PST reply actions
we gotta get one of those
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Horrific field position indeed
49ers continuing to miss Allen Rossum
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Boy, the Niners are really missing Rossum today
Field position has been miserable.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 11:00 AM PST reply actions
Allen Rossum where are you
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 14, 2008 11:00 AM PST reply actions
Foster
Really fighting for yards. Gotta give him that.
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Has Michael Robinson ever had
a run from scrimmage over ten yards?
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 11:03 AM PST reply actions
hill could do a better job disguising handoffs,
he sticks the ball way out there instead of keeping it close until he has to stick it out
Nice run by Hill
Two Dolphins went down and opened it up for him
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injury timeout?
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by David Fucillo on Dec 14, 2008 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
im acctually not dissapointed in Foster today
so far
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From what I remember
of Foster at Carolina, he was a good runner and pass receiver. It was ball control that was the issue.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Ref alignment
They said the back judge now lines up as a deep umpire…does that mean it’s harder for him to then see pass interference on deep plays? Maybe worth taking a shot deep and get some offensive PI?
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un-related
Matt Ryan just had an absolutely dirty fake pitch play-action
little TE swing pass
Nice play from Hill to Davis
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Was he talking to JTO on that one?
get rid of it!
linebacker
On the replay a linebacker appeared to be just a few yards in front of him waiting for him to run
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by David Fucillo on Dec 14, 2008 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
So….we need a RT
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 14, 2008 11:15 AM PST reply actions
andy lee is not pleased
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by David Fucillo on Dec 14, 2008 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
You know
I’d like them to be winning, but considering their field position they played a pretty good half.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 11:19 AM PST reply actions
Clint Eastwood
is the scariest 78 year-old mofo in the world.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 11:21 AM PST reply actions
Wow, it got quiet around here
I hope everyone is getting some good food for halftime.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 11:27 AM PST reply actions
Food
Frying up some potatoes. Love potatoes, sour cream and ketchup!
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by David Fucillo on Dec 14, 2008 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
Looks like
they filmed that bi-polar medicine commercial on the Oregon coast. I thought I recognized that famous rock.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 11:30 AM PST reply actions
What happens to the NFL
if the Big Three automakers go down?
All Toyota all the time?
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 11:31 AM PST reply actions
News break
Someone in Baghdad threw his shoes at Bush.
I guess that reporters at press conferences will have to do what the rest of us do at airports.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 11:32 AM PST reply actions
what is the deal with all these live streams
all of them keep shutting down
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yea, i got one at justin.tv/wilmer6 but its crappy
by foosball4949 on Dec 14, 2008 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
yeah same one i got
this sucks
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there's another one at http://www.justin.tv/ys0ser10us
by foosball4949 on Dec 14, 2008 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Wait for a Niner’s link
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 14, 2008 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
Man, it must be the season
The commercial about that movie about the dog, the Ronald McDonald house commercials, they’re making me tear up.
If I start crying over the F-150 commercials I’m in trouble.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 11:40 AM PST reply actions
ahh ok yeah it worked that time
thanks
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lol right in time to see Bruce throw
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
A reverse
and and an imcomplete on a throw by Bruce.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 11:43 AM PST reply actions
thank god
let him catch the ball and then tackle him short of the first down
we need points here
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true
but i feel like if i say it maybe someone will listen
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Someone on tv said the same
Something to show for the time of possession.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
BJ
has been playin pretty nice the past couple weeks
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JTO sighting!!
good job not fumbling that clipboard buddy
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COME ON. Four wide?
Run it with Foster, of course. >_>
by James Brady on Dec 14, 2008 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
i think we could have picked up the 1st down with a QB keeper
by baybruin415 on Dec 14, 2008 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
if Gore was in yes
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#5 - Finish
Not doing it
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by David Fucillo on Dec 14, 2008 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
A sack
or a safety, to make up those points we don’t get by not scoring a TD.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Was that Baas getting his neck manipulated?
At least the cameraman was interested, even if the announcers aren’t.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 11:57 AM PST reply actions
Does fox have any good announcers?
In ANY sport?
by bondslegend on Dec 14, 2008 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
lol
those billick coors lights ads are hilarious
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Ed's going to go get more
GO ED! GO ED! GO!
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Wsup Peeps? My 1st time on this site
I question why we play so conservatively in the 2nd half when we’re down 2 possessions. Hopefully it’s just coaching growing pains by Singletary
Singletary isn't calling plays
or throwing passes. Or run blocking.
by bondslegend on Dec 14, 2008 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
No Gore
so the Phins sometimes have six DBs. For one thing.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Welcome
Glad you could make it to our neck of the Internet. Hopefully you’ll bring some luck in the 4th quarter!
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by David Fucillo on Dec 14, 2008 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
proud of VD
no dumb penalties today and I expected him to have a few
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yea
18 rushes, 76 yards; 3 catches, 19 yards
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by David Fucillo on Dec 14, 2008 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
Draw
When was the last time a draw got a first down for the 49ers?
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This is exactly the game I've been waiting for for Foster
Now he’s showing why we got him. THis is how he was with Carolina
Would much rather have Gore
but yea- that’s why he’s here- to spell Gore and fill in during injuries.
sure beats Hicks…
by bondslegend on Dec 14, 2008 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
the run was a good idea- IDK why they don’t do that more often.
by bondslegend on Dec 14, 2008 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
how do make sure he doesn't drop it?
hand it to him!
by baybruin415 on Dec 14, 2008 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
Have to say
It’s discouraging that we don’t have more points, but it sure is a good sign to see the offense moving the ball well.
yes sir
keep it up fellas
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This is reminding me of the Buffalo game..
only in reverse- we’re gonna get like 300 yards, but only like 10 points
IKE HELL YES BABY WAY TO GO
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2 more FGs?
Yea, i don’t think so. Need 6 on the next drive.
by bondslegend on Dec 14, 2008 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
Points are points. Come on Defense
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 14, 2008 12:16 PM PST reply actions
Yeesh
Moving the ball and then just dying in the red zone. If you discount the Lindell missed field goals this is what happened to Buffalo
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About ten minutes.
Stop them and next time put in in. Man, this feel’s like Friday nights high school. You get so far and you can’t put it in.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 12:18 PM PST reply actions
i laughed when he said "key members of the ko coverage team"
but bajema did a good job…
Actually, yes it is
Willis hasn’t been making plays, and we’re losing. When we were winning, Willis was making plays.
“spirit” and “leadership” are nice things to write about, but you actually need to make plays on the field to help your team win.
by bondslegend on Dec 14, 2008 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
yeah we've done a good job keeping Porter fairly quiet too
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kinda hard to make tackles...
when you aren’t on the field much.
Miami’s offense, and thus the SF defense, has only been on the field for 31 plays
+109
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 14, 2008 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
Who was Pennington throwing that one to?
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 12:22 PM PST reply actions
Someone in the stands. His arm strength showing that time
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 14, 2008 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
woo
high as a kite
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Ziegler's head
How is that thing still attached?! It looked like he tried to twist it off like the lid of a pop bottle!
Thank god.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 14, 2008 12:26 PM PST reply actions
ziggy
eh not so good with the returns
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That penalty cost us about 20 yards.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 14, 2008 12:27 PM PST reply actions
Game time decision
Battle out for the season.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
time for
a nice long clock eating drive capped off by a Hill to Hill TD with 30 secs left
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commentators:
“In my professional opinion, I think the 49ers will be trying to score a touchdown on this drive.”
What insight!
Strategy? “I think they’re going to have to start driving it down the field”
by baybruin415 on Dec 14, 2008 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Bruuuuuccccee
man Ike is a beast
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God, I love Isaac Bruce
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 14, 2008 12:30 PM PST reply actions
the man is football Jesus
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My mom saw him eating alone at some restaurant and he decided to join her table! haha
by baybruin415 on Dec 14, 2008 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
i think if that happened to me
I would [site decorum] my pants
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time is running out man
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Dolphins blitzing
The Niners are trying to come back with a quick slant but it’s not working.
If Gore were suited up he’d be an option. We miss him.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
Well our defense is shutting them down, so..
by James Brady on Dec 14, 2008 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
Just trust me
you do not punt with 5 minutes left and win the game.
by bondslegend on Dec 14, 2008 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
That's just how football works
its a terrible idea to punt with such little time left.
by bondslegend on Dec 14, 2008 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
What's that?
About the fourth drop for the Dolphins today?
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 12:35 PM PST reply actions
Wildcat! and it worked famously
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Damned wildcat.
Someone should separate Pennington’s shoulder on those plays.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 12:36 PM PST reply actions
come on Bamm Bamm
you have the ability to change this game
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damn
so yeah this isnt looking good
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dammit Roman
he better not be back next year
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Sorry, but you're wrong
that choice NEVER works out. EVER. It is always a terrible idea.
by bondslegend on Dec 14, 2008 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
well we'll be getting the ball back with over 2 minutes, now
good field position, and the potential to play the game’s final drive – which, if it ends in the end zone – would be the winner.
So we’ll see.
Cmon
you really think that’s because of talent? That was pure luck on the FG
but yes, it did sort of work. If they’d gone for it, it would have been a lot easier to get the points.
by bondslegend on Dec 14, 2008 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
pure luck?
20 mph winds from a good distance, from a kicker that is far from automatic.
Talent may not have been the cause, but Coach Sing played the odds…and the first dice roll went his way.
And also, say they did go for it on 4th down and make it then continue down the field and score a touchdown…. that would have given Miami the chance to hold the ball for the last drive of the game – where a FG would win it.
The net of that punt was like 20 yards
it made no difference if they went or punted.
by bondslegend on Dec 14, 2008 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
There's no way of knowing if it would have been 20 yards closer
we could have made it. We’ve been picking up those 5 yard-to-go downs all day
by bondslegend on Dec 14, 2008 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
And look at the percentages
It’s much more likely that you win if you go for it in that situation. History has proven that.
by bondslegend on Dec 14, 2008 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
apart from the time portion of my argument
which you are ignoring, is that the only odds that changed were the number of chances.
Instead of 4th and x, where it all would have come down to one play, and still wouldn’t have guaranteed anything but another opportunity for Miami’s offense, we gave ourselves a full drive’s worth of downs to work with.
If we went 0-for-4 on that last set of plays from about the same part of the field, why are you so confident that we’d have made it on just one play?
Here's what I'm confiedent of:
if you look at the history of NFL and college games, when a team punts with about 5 minutes left to go in the game and is in reasonable field position, they lose the game. I have history on my side- it is almost always the worst call, and right up until the FG barely missed, it was the wrong call.
Either way, we lost, but I’d rather lose being aggresive.
by bondslegend on Dec 14, 2008 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
it's all point of view, then, I guess
In my opinion, going for it on 4th in that situation could be considered the “traditional” call – Coach Sing invested his confidence in his defensive unit, which had done far better at stopping Miami had than the offensive unit had at putting the ball in the end zone all day.
By punting, odd as it may sound, Coach Sing went with what I would call the “aggressive” call. He gave the ball back, knowing that he’d get another chance to win it – and he did.
And the loss was not a result of this decision. He voted for his defense over the offensive unit, and they didn’t let him down. Our guys couldn’t score when we had a chance later on, and that’s what killed us. This, if anything, should further illustrate the point that Coach Sing was trying to make.
besides...
again, to stress the time issue:
Say we…
-we go for it on 4th
-make it
-continue the drive
-score six (somehow)
This makes it a 16-14 game with, say, 3 minutes left on the clock.
Miami still gets the ball back with a chance to win it with a FG. Our defense still has to stop them in a similar, if not identical position.
And that’s IF all of these things go perfectly in our favor.
Singletary on the field
talking to Bam Bam.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 12:40 PM PST reply actions
hes like man come on
F that dude up Bamm Bamm
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
Man, American Idol leaves me cold.
So what if you sing Mariah Carey songs well.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 12:41 PM PST reply actions
No good!
Now the Niners need to score.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 12:44 PM PST reply actions
CLANK!!
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Dec 14, 2008 12:45 PM PST reply actions
Come on SHaun
this is where legends are made
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
?
In week 15 when you’re out of the playoffs? I thought legends were made in the superbowl.
by bondslegend on Dec 14, 2008 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
lol i was being sarcastic
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
Two-minute warning
First and ten on the Dolphins’ 42.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 12:46 PM PST reply actions
Dude
the missed FG was `100& luck. It’s still the wrong move
by bondslegend on Dec 14, 2008 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Need a TD.
So far the Niners have been Whopper virgins.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 12:48 PM PST reply actions
anybody having flashbacks to...
that arizona game right now?
finally, the guy makes it into the camera view
most of those dudes get stomped before they get a chance to be on tv
That could have been a disaster.
Stupid fan threw off our momentum
Yeah, I know that. But it makes sense, I think.
That doesn’t change the questionable play calling to end the game, especially the 3rd and 10 end zone attempt
Why? That doesn’t make any sense, the play was over.
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Because that's the play that the penalty came from.
On a roughing the kicker penalty, the down is replayed, isn’t it? I know it’s not completely the same, but the penalty was still a part of the play IMO.
No, it’s not even close to the same. Roughing the kicker happens during the play. The taking off your helmet on the field penalty comes after the whistle. Once the whistle blows, it’s the next play/down.
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Neglectful father of David Quinowski
site decorum be dammed,
joey porter is one of the biggest douchebags in football
Maybe stupidity is contagious
Porter caught the helmet take off disease.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 12:54 PM PST reply actions
What a frustrating loss.
Only upside..higher draft pick.
too much empty
in the redzone you cant do that, just not fair to shaun hill and the o-line
If I gotta play, I'm gonna play 'till I win,
Since I gotta be here, I can´t wait to begin
Seriously Fooch
if those Dolphins fans come back and talk trash
Eff the site decorum
MURS for President!!!!!!!
Well, they played a good game.
A really good game. And we’ll get a little better draft choice.
It’s okay. we were entertained.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 12:56 PM PST reply actions
Actually yes
go here to read my pregame sentiments. Exactly my thoughts.
by bondslegend on Dec 14, 2008 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Sure.
If Rossum were returning kicks and Gore was playing they would have won.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know if I'd attribute the loss to Gore's absence
Foster played really well all day. I can’t remember him coming up short anywhere where I’d have said “Frank would have made that play” – can you?
No but there may have been some breakaways
by baybruin415 on Dec 14, 2008 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
I was thinking
that with Gore playing that on some of those pass plays the Dolphins wouldn’t have had six DBs in coverage. Foster played well, but he doesn’t get the respect that Gore does.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
Thinking about it
We kinda beat Buffalo like this.
I guees what goes around comes around.
MURS for President!!!!!!!
He's got a great-looking woman
so at least when he goes home at night things get better.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Sims should have had help
You can’t expect Sims to take on the NFL’s leading pass rusher 1 on 1, Martz leaves his QB out to dry everywhere he goes, 5 wide is not Shaun Hill’s game
If I gotta play, I'm gonna play 'till I win,
Since I gotta be here, I can´t wait to begin
True, and there was a minute on the clock.
Should have called something underneath the play before.
by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 14, 2008 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
i thought so at the time, maybe not now
it seemed like a good idea to get the next three plays in the huddle
by foosball4949 on Dec 14, 2008 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
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Feel free to use that for the afternoon games.
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