Mike Singletary Approval Ratings, Week 15
by Fooch on Dec 17, 2008 9:00 AM PST
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Having forgotten to do the approval ratings after the Cowboys loss, this is our first poll immediately following a loss. After the Jets win, Singletary's approval rating was at 98%, with only six people out of 332 voting no. Unfortunately none of those six people elected to speak up about why they voted no. I wouldn't be surprised if the first no vote was just someone who wanted to see more than 0 no votes. Beyond that I'm not really sure.
Even after the Dolphins loss I still approve of the job Mike Singletary is doing. The loss revealed some of the positives AND negatives of the man. On the plus side, he continues to keep these guys playing hard down to the wire. On the negative side, we've seen some communication issues with Shaun Hill on late game play-calling. Maybe the fault legitimately lies with Hill or Mike Martz. Either way, as the coach, the buck stops with Singletary.
One plus to having two separate especially tough losses (@ Arizona and @ Miami) is that Singletary is experiencing some really difficult game situations. The more experience he gets, the more I'd like to think he'll improve in such situations. As they say, practice makes perfect.
Of course, if you strictly blame Mike Martz for the outcomes of both these games, there's not a lot that can be argued and I'd assume you want Martz gone. As discussed before, I think Martz and Singletary can work well together going forward. I think the competing personalities are perfectly suited to offset each other.
These last two games will be important for Singletary in his ability to keep the team focused on one week at a time. If the 49ers win their last two games and finish 7-9, it would certainly be one more reason for hiring him full-time. We'll see how much he can get the team up going forward.
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Still stickin with him
In order for my opinion to change on singletary, he needs to commit a very aggregious, or several less than very aggregious, football offense. While the game plan and strategy wasnt one step short of brilliance, it also wasnt a steaming pile of Ram poo.
I can blame the offense/WRs for not catching balls/Shaun Hill not completing passes/Gore being injured for us not executing in the red zone, and thus losing to the Dopefins, not Singletary.
Hopefully the Yorks see Singletary as the leader, motivator and communicator he has been since he took over. Keep it up Master Samurai!
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Dec 17, 2008 9:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Red zone.
The redzone has been a bug-a-boo all season, no?
You can blame the WRs, Hill or Gore all you want, but unless you know what plays were called and who failed to execute their assignments, it’s all just speculation. Basically, I’m saying anyone could be at fault, including Martz and Singletary.
by sfgfan on Dec 17, 2008 9:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was more of a isolated blame game thing
I was only talking about the struggles in the red-zone during the dolphins game, and I’m not placing the blame on one party (hence all the slashes, i don’t know who to specifically blame). And I’m not counting out that Singletarty stepped in and called for a specific kind of play in that instance (although that seems unlikely).
Plus, if it has been a problem all season, I would see that as a problem that doesn’t involve the coach that took over halfway through the season (although you could counter with the fact that if he was a truely effective coach he would have found a way to correct that problem when he took over).
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Dec 17, 2008 9:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My fault
I don’t really know who to blame either. My fault for misunderstanding your point.
by sfgfan on Dec 17, 2008 11:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No problemo budday
No point in having a conversation if there isn’t a counter point. Otherwise we should all just take our birkenstocks off and dance with our sundresses on in the fields, singing about the age of Aquarius, hoping that someone saves the whales.
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Dec 17, 2008 11:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine a whole off-season with this guy
With a hat-tip to Mike Sando over at ESPN, in 7 weeks, Singletary has improved the Niners’ most crucial performance ratings. Third down percentages are almost 18% better, sacks allowed are down and interceptions happen a lot less frequently.
Passing completion is up, net yards are up, and the all-important Red-zone offensive output is up. Oh yeah, and time of possession is up too, keeping our defense fresher every game.
Singletary’s press conferences also have a lower b.s.-rating than Nolan’s.
by MondayMorningMontana on Dec 17, 2008 9:19 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
34 for 34…I think the nation will be disappointed if he doesn’t come back next year.
If God had intended us not to rosterbate, he would've made our arms shorter.
Padre renuente de Luis Perdomo, porque él es todo el que se deja hasta junio.
by Mike Hawk on Dec 17, 2008 10:01 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I SAY NO!!!
Why you may ask? Well it’s simple. If you’re a coach your main job, the biggest part, is to win. If you didn’t win you didn’t do your job. You could be great at drafting, you could have pro-bowlers, you may even have the support of the whole team, but if you don’t win (especially the big games) you’re out. Visa-Ve Marty Schottenheimer. As long as Singletary wins I will support him.
I love messing up perfect scores.HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!
Next year will be our year! (copyright 2003*, been used each of last five years)
by StrictlyFootball on Dec 17, 2008 10:18 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
vis-a-vis?
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
by wjackalope on Dec 17, 2008 10:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a credit card thing.
Visa-a-Discover
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Dec 17, 2008 10:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
DAMN YOU GOOGLE SEARCH!!!
Next year will be our year! (copyright 2003*, been used each of last five years)
by StrictlyFootball on Dec 17, 2008 12:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sing is doing a good job...
But not enough to convince me he should be the HC next season.
by drummer on Dec 17, 2008 10:26 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
What types of qualities are you looking for from him right now?
by MondayMorningMontana on Dec 17, 2008 11:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It isn't about "right now" ....
It’s all about next season, the structure of the FO, the future of his coordinators, and where Sing sits with all of that. My thing is, the 49ers need a real good X’s and O’s HC, simply because they haven’t had a good one in years, going back before Nolan. One of the reasons on why Sing hasn’t got an HC position prior to this one is because he didn’t impress Owners and Execs with a solid plan, with X’s and O’s as part of the consideration. Like I posted earlier in another comment section, if the 49ers don’t hire a VP with a lot of experience in a successful program, then they will go into next season with ScotM, the bean counters, Henegan (if he even sticks around), young Jed, and maybe Sing. I don’thave a lot of confidence there, because the 49ers have in the past played well late, and this could just be more late season smoke, with Sing waving the blanket over the fire.
by drummer on Dec 17, 2008 11:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Next season can be dealt with next season.
At the moment Singletary can’t afford to think about next season one jot cos he’s not the HC full time yet. Once he’s got the contract, then he can start planning on the systems he wants the teams to play both off. and def., and putting in place the staff he wants to implement these systems.
Until then, all he can do is show how good he is with what he’s got – his personal skills,motivational attributes and coaching abilities with the games he has. Most importantly to show that the team has improved under his charge compared to the previous coach – which, I think everybody would agree, it has.
As far as having a HC who is a good X’s and O’s man, I’m not sure I agree with this. I think if you have excellent X’s and O’s guys as your co-ordinators then the HC doesn’t need to be one as well. To me the HC needs to be a good decision maker,see the overall,have a vision for the future of the franchise and most importantly be an excellent communicator.
Singletary to me fits that bill – having said that, there are others out there who are equally as good.
by Ninerfromacrossthepond on Dec 17, 2008 4:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Remember when Mooch was hired?....
That was a decision from Policy and DeBartolo, due to the turnover of OC’s. Siefert left because Mooch was gonna be groomed for HC. The 49ers still had a lot of talent then,and Seifert was still a good coach. But the FO saw a flaw in that system, and that was due to the revolving door not only at OC, but DC as well. Mooch however was a good offensive mind, running a system based on what the 49ers were used to, the WCO. Mooch was a “rah rah” coach, a player’s coach, who still needed help on the defensive side of the ball, and he had studs during the Young era. Flash forward post Young to Garcia/TO, and Mooch still managed to get a team with lesser talent to the playoffs. A big reason why is that the 49ers had a system still in place, and Mooch still had an offensive mind.
Forward to TD/Erickson/Nolan/ScotM/Sing. Not much there as far as strategy, both in the FO, and X’s and O’s.
If the 49ers can lose a Siefert due to turnover of assistants, than a Sing won’t fare well at all with the lack of cohesion of a franchise, from the top on down. As you can see, it takes a lot more than just “motivation and communication” to bring a franchise to playoff caliber. The 49ers need an X’s and O’s coach because they haven’t had one since Mooch or Seifert, and even then, turnover on both assistants, players, and FO eventually led them out the door.
by drummer on Dec 17, 2008 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They don't need an X's and O's coach.
They need a coach that has a plan for those X’s and O’s. There will ALWAYS be turnover in terms of coordinators and assistants. That’s just the nature of the beast. Teams that can succeed through it are teams that have plans on how to create a line of succession. They don’t call them coaching trees because the coach that started it did all the work, do they?
Aside from that, you’d be hard-pressed to find a head coach that’s a good X’s and O’s guy on offense AND defense. You’re using Mooch and Seifert as examples, but they WERE good X’s and O’s guys, at least by most industry people’s standards.
by sfgfan on Dec 17, 2008 9:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, we can agree to disagree...
And it is yet to be seen how good Sing is when it comes down to a future plan, other than the “5 points”. The thing is, you have less caveats with a coach who has experience with real scheming than you do with a coach who doesn’t. The two aforementioned coaches have had experience as coordinators. Sing hasn’t. But, like you said, there will always be turnover in assistants. That doesn’t bode well for Sing. It didn’t for Nolan, and Sing is a few notches above Nolan, but quite a few down from say a Shanahan or Gruden. Sing is also the true “line of succession” coach from Nolan, yet he didn’t move Sing to DC when he fired Davis.
I don’t count McCarthy or Turner as part of the “Nolan Tree” in the least.
by drummer on Dec 17, 2008 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Singletary...
… a few notches above Nolan in what? X’s and O’s? I highly doubt that. If Manusky were to fail right now, Singletary would have a seriously hard time running that defense. By all intents and purposes, Singletary has no background in playcalling at all, so how could he be a better X’s and O’s guy than Nolan?
In any case, I never mentioned McCarthy and Turner to be part of the Nolan tree. The primary reason why Nolan failed as a head coach is that he never (or never had the chance to) developed a line of succession. McCarthy left too soon (if you think about it, he became a head coach one year removed from being a QB coach). Turner left because his friend wanted to hire him. Both times, Nolan had no internal option that could continue to carry the torch.
Singletary needs to present the way he plans to succeed in what his former boss failed at.
by sfgfan on Dec 18, 2008 10:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not in X's and O's...
But in the overall coaching of the team. Sing has Nolan’s assistants. Sing was an assistant to Nolan. One of the differences is: the team has bought into Sing, after tuning Nolan out. Plus, these are still Nolan/ScotM players. Even though they both are/were somewhat maligned at talent acquisition and development, the players they have assembled still played hard until the end of the season, “character” players for lack of a better description, which is a benefit to Sing. Even so, they still have only one Pro Bowl starter this year in Willis.
The Coordinator issue comes down to this: Nolan never really had a plan in place to begin with. If you install an offense in your first season as HC, then you should be running it in your 3rd and 4th season. Nolan got snakebit by OC’s because he wasn’t anywhere near savvy on that side of the ball. His defensive acumen was in question as well. His simply wasn’t that good, and combined with all of the hats he had to wear (due to York being dumb), he had to lean on more experienced coaches, no matter if it meant changes in philosophy. The only coach that I know of that was promoted from “in house” is Sing, and that’s because he replaced Nolan. As you can see, there isn’t very much structure there, and it’s a failure of both Nolan, ScotM, and York.
McCarthy leaving was surprise, but I think anybody who thought Turner was a long term solution probably thinks Martz is one as well. Which Martz isn’t.
by drummer on Dec 18, 2008 11:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Turner
Why would it be wrong to think that Turner could have been a long-term solution?
The guy was a failure as a head coach, especially in his second go-around. It may or may not have been his fault, but the fact of the matter is this: Turner just isn’t a good head coach. I believe that because he sucked as a head coach, it’s possible he settles in as an offensive coordinator to close out his career. Martz, on the other hand, I feel he can be a head coach again really soon. I don’t buy into Martz being a long-term solution, but at the end of last year, anything was better than Hostler (or the likes) again.
The only reason Turner got another head coaching job so soon was because his friend hired him. Heck, he even Jerry Jones looked passed him when considering candidates for the Cowboys head coaching gig.
I think it’s wrong for lambasting Nolan for the offensive struggles. Yes, he failed to create a strong line of succession (or one at all), but you can’t say that turning an ex-QB coach into an offensive coordinator isn’t “looking ahead.” If you want long-term, you look toward offensive assistants or ex-head coaches that are good at coordinating one aspect but not a whole team. Nolan did just that up until he HAD to go with an internal option last year.
by sfgfan on Dec 18, 2008 12:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Martz has gone...
From an HC gig, to getting hired twice by teams with the worst offenses in the League. Getting fired from the Raiders (or even by Snyder) is nowhere near as bad as getting fired from DET.
Nolan should get lambasted for the offensive woes. Again, if you install an offense in year one, you run it year 3 and 4. His promotion of Hostler was for one reason only: Smith. Jerry Sullivan at least had one year’s OC experience in AZ.
by drummer on Dec 18, 2008 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I, too, was in favor of hiring Sullivan over Hostler based on experience — at least you knew you were getting a complete disaster, which is what they ended up with.
Something else I’m in favor of: Your avatar. I can still remember the day they announced the change to that helmet — I read about it in The National (another short-lived idea) — and thinking to myself when I saw it, “This can’t actually happen, can it?” Luckily for us all, Niners fans wouldn’t let it happen. And although it was his idea in the first place, I give a lot of credit to Eddie D for listening to the fans, realizing his mistake, and correcting it — making that “The One Day Logo”.
Check out The Examined Life. Or don't. Whatever.
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by Josh from Hollywood on Dec 18, 2008 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a conspiracy theory about that logo, LOL ...
Notice how is just says “49ers” ? I used to think that was one way of Eddie detaching the team from SF, for a possible move to another city.
by drummer on Dec 18, 2008 3:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a wise approach. We have to wait and see what happens.
But, unlike other late-season runs, the Niners finally look consistent. That’s something that has eluded them for the last 6 seasons.
Also, it seems that what has made Singletary so successful is that he has had a plan for the team. Singletary’s ‘Rules for Success’ has become a mantra with the coaching staff, and his hiring of former referee Ron Blum was a deliberate and shrewd move.
But you’re absolutely right as far as his support staff and consistency with this coordinators, etc.
by MondayMorningMontana on Dec 17, 2008 12:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Sing's "5 point plan"....
Isn’t really much of a plan at all. It’s more of a basic, fundamental philosophy. It’s more like “back to the drawing board” philosophy, harping on things good teams should already know. One of the things I speculate on about Sing and the QB situation is this: what If Smith weren’t on IR? The harder decision to make than Hill over JTO would have been Hill over Smith, The Million Dollar Baby (baby considering youth, because Smith has relatively more experience and snaps behind center than Hill has). Would Sing have the juice with the FO to not give Smith the start? If Smith stunk it up, whose fault would it be? ScotM? Martz? Smith on IR made Hill an easy decision. After all, Hill was 3rd on the chart before Smith went on IR, and who knows if Nolan/Martz would have put Smith in there when JTO stunk it up.
The “youth movement” moves, like Rachal, isn’t that groundbreaking considering that Nolan started Staley for a whole season.
There are rumors in KC that Vermiel might become VP there in place of Peterson. That’s looking more forward than the 49ers are currently doing. KC has a “motivator” in Edwards, and look at where they are at right now.
Sing could add “You play to win the game” as point #6, but that would ring hollow if his success as HC is similar to Edwards.
by drummer on Dec 17, 2008 1:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I absolutely agree with you about the FO
but those are all hypotheticals, because none of us know what the team’s next moves will be with regards to the GM, VP, or Team President positions, and Smith is injured, so we can’t speculate as to whether he would play even if healthy.
Also, Sing’s implementation of his five-point philosophy is a plan (albeit a short-term one) – it’s a plan to improve a set of players who were severely lacking in fundamentals. Implementation of this philosophy means that he’s worked with his coordinators to figure out how to improve on these shortcomings. And it’s worked so far.
by MondayMorningMontana on Dec 17, 2008 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The "5 pont plan" is a start...
Albeit way too late, and it’s an “obvious” plan as well. It works to an extent at this level in the season, but what is Sing’s next step? That’s the Million Dollar question, and the question for the franchise as a whole.
The hypothetical QB situation is just something to show how easy the JTO/Hill decision was. Fans were calling for that move before Sing was HC.
by drummer on Dec 17, 2008 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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