49ers 17 - Rams 16: Inconsistency for the...win!

by Ninjames on Dec 21, 2008 1:23 PM PST in News Comment 22 comments

Hey guys, James here subbing in for Fooch for the immediate post-game recap. He should have his thoughts up later this evening. Today was up and down in the worst of ways. Just when I started feeling secure with many aspects of this team such as the QB position, the defense, our head coach etc. We started slow and in my mind, all we had ahead of us was picking up speed which we didn't do until late in the 4th quarter, much to my dismay.

What disturbed me was we seemed to have the drive and intensity out there on the field to play well, but it just wasn't happening. Shaun Hill threw three interceptions and looked like the practice screw-up many wrote him off to be in the preseason. Foster proved ineffective the whole game but gave an effort regardless and we couldn't ask for much more.

So we were saved by a 4th quarter rally, laying down and taking a beating in the first three quarters we came back, Shaun Hill played great, the line protected and the defense stepped it up. We came away, or at least I did with bitten nails, absolutely nerve-racked in the final seconds. Fortunately, Tarell Brown came through with the interception and sealed the deal. The Niners pull off a mostly-ugly win at St. Louis where everyone expected us to dominate. So my question to all of you is, how do we feel? Do we forgive Shaun HIll for coming back and playing like we've come to expect him to in the past few weeks? Does Singletary keep his job for pulling us through in the end? Go ahead and discuss all of this here in this thread. And one last thing... Bruuuuuuuuce!

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I can't say anything about our team with too much confidence after a week like this but

I am positive about one thing. The Rams are horrible!

by baybruin415 on Dec 21, 2008 1:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I'll second that.

I’m glad Hill came through though. If anything he showed he’s not a bad choice at QB, even though earlier on he showed that he may not be a great choice.

by Ninjames on Dec 21, 2008 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He's definitely a serviceable QB but

I’m not really sold on his mechanics..It seems like all of his passes float on his WRs. He may lead us to a playoff spot in a weak NFC West but I don’t feel he can take us any further. I hope I’m wrong.

by baybruin415 on Dec 21, 2008 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Me too

Because I like the guy a lot, if we bring in someone else Hill better give it his all to win the starting job in the preseason and sell us on those mechanics.

by Ninjames on Dec 21, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, but he has the best backpeddling motion of any QB in the NFL.

I have no new information on that at this time.

by Rishi on Dec 21, 2008 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

His arm has always been his biggest liability. He’s done a good job of minimizing the harm it’s done, but it’s going to haunt him/us from time to time. Today was the first time we really saw how much of a liability it could be. The deep balls that float, the wobbly balls that die… they hurt.

But he’s not bad at minimizing those things most of the time.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2008 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The wagon..

..lost a wheel, it took 3 quarters to get it fixed. But, I’m still on it for now, I think Shuan is the guy. He really needs to work on his fundamentals, as far as playing the gamer he is a winner, ugly, yes but a winner none the less.

This is the second week in a row we started out slow, Singletary needs to go back to the Jets game, and get his team motivated from the start, instead of waiting for halftime.

by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on Dec 21, 2008 1:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I can forgive Hill

I still see nothing wrong with him as our starting QB. He made a ton of mistakes and looked like JTO, but he made adjustments and corrected his mistakes and led two pretty good drives (from what I saw) and got us the win. The D did enough to hold the Rams off and sealed the deal with the INT at the end. Overall it was ugly but I like how we woke up and realized who we were playing and did enough to come out with a W. I want Singletary as HC and Bruce is the freakin man, I hope he sticks around next year.

Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal

by 49erLou on Dec 21, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Well said

by Ninjames on Dec 21, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah and

Josh Morgan <3 <3

Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal

by 49erLou on Dec 21, 2008 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

All QB's (and teams) struggle at times

Great comeback by Hill & the Niners. They won a game they “should’ve” lost just as they lost a couple of games under Singletary they “should’ve” won (Arizona, Miami).

Hill (among others) played terribly for three quarters yet made all the plays needed to win at the end. Often that says more about the man and the team than playing well the entire game.

I know that most of you 49er fans were spoiled by Montana & Young but regular, human QB’s not destined for the HOF sometimes have games like he had for three quarters.

Great Comeback

by GeoMak on Dec 21, 2008 1:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

OT: Gus Johnson continues to rule

“Favre in trouble. Favvvvvvvvvre is SACKED!”

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by Fooch on Dec 21, 2008 1:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I still think it's a good win

-Defense was able to stiffen when it needed to at the end.
-Hill showed resiliency to shake his terrible 3 quarters to lead the team to victory.
-Singletary fired up the offense to start making plays (via the pseudo-benching and shouting time)

Sure, we should have lost the games, but part of being (or in our case, trying to be) a good team is winning those games anyway.

Now they gotta take that 4th quarter and continue it against the Skins next week.

by RobbieS on Dec 21, 2008 1:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Hill showed he can recover after a terrible game within the same game. Something we haven’t had since Garcia! Sing and Hill ’09!!!!!!

by CW30 on Dec 21, 2008 1:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Even Peyton Manning has had horrible games. Shaun Hill showed he could bounce back, which is what a good QB needs.

I have no new information on that at this time.

by Rishi on Dec 21, 2008 2:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU8aCzzF1Ns

Just in case anyone didn’t watch Wes Welker’s amazing play against the Cards.

I have no new information on that at this time.

by Rishi on Dec 21, 2008 2:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, don't get me wrong folks.

I’m pretty excited that he was clutch in this game. He came through and I’m hoping he continues to do so.

by Ninjames on Dec 21, 2008 2:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

One Quarter Was All It Took!

For what it’s worth, The Niners had three quarters of bad, bad football. BUT it was nice to see Hill comeback in the 4th and really show something. His passes were right on target, and his running ability kept us in the game. Sing’s team plays with more heart, and passion in the games he has coached versus all the games Nolan coached combined. Today was not pretty, but hey, a win is a win. Oh and remember, this was a 10 am game on the west coast so the guys took a little time to wake up. Next is The Redskins!!!!!

by kennyhel77 on Dec 21, 2008 2:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Sing’s team plays with more heart, and passion in the games he has coached versus all the games Nolan coached combined.

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

/BOOM!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2008 4:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Redskins-Eagles

Redskins are up 3-0 at the half. If the Redskins hold on for the W I think they’re technically still alive for a playoff spot (thanks to a TB loss). If so, it means maybe they’ll still be playing with some purpose next Sunday and give us something to judge in the game, as opposed to being mathematically eliminated and not giving a crap.

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by Fooch on Dec 21, 2008 2:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

No run game without Gore

I think that Martz again gave up on the run too soon, and the Rams were able to put more pressure on Hill. Robinson got his typical two yards rushing again. I think the Niner braintrust blew it not activating Clayton.

I have no qualms going into the off-season with Hill as the starter, even though he had a bad first three quarters.

I think that Martz took a step back in my evaluation, though. I thought he mismanaged the offense today.

by Bob On The Coast on Dec 21, 2008 5:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Totally agree with you on the run game

If they had used Clayton in these last 2 games, they could have evaluated his potential more acurately being in a game situation, and known how to proceed for next year far better. Instead – apart from Gore – they are no further on with a successful run game to complement the pass.
All the talk we have had recently about possibly trading Gore goes out the window if we have no replacement to the same standard.
Martz has got to be kept on a tight leash when it comes to play-calling. First half and the run/pass is generally split 50/50, 2nd half and the run is virtually abolished – we have seen this game after game.

by Ninerfromacrossthepond on Dec 21, 2008 6:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs