49ers 17 - Rams 16: It's better to be lucky than good
Is there any other way to describe this game? Because for the most part, the 49ers were not good. For almost three and a half quarters, the 49ers were awful. It just seemed like they wanted to be anywhere but in St. Louis. They slept-walked through the first half and everyone expected Singletary to light into them and inspire them in the second half. However, the third quarter was not any better. Fortunately for the 49ers, the defense stepped up when necessary, and of course, they were playing the St. Louis Rams.
The Good
Michael Lewis - As soon as the game was over I knew Michael Lewis would lead off "The Good" no matter what the outcome. Normally if a safety is leading your team in tackles, it's not a good thing. However, a big part of Michael Lewis's role as the strong safety is making plays up close to the line. Although Lewis struggles in pass coverage, he does an excellent job in run support. Today he was all over the field, finishing the game with 13 tackles. The safety position has been rather weak this season, so it's nice to see Lewis have such a big impact.
Isaac Bruce - Big time congratulations to Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce for reaching 1,000 receptions and passing Tim Brown in career receiving yards. More importantly, once again Bruce was the guy making plays when things got desperate. Over the last 5 weeks, Bruce has recorded 33 receptions, 394 yards and 3 touchdowns. It's not a surprise the 49ers are 3-2 during that stretch.
4th quarter Shaun Hill - Hill was absolutely awful through 3+ quarters. However, in the fourth quarter Shaun Hill looked like a Hall of Famer, going 10/15 for 128 yards and two touchdowns with a key 17-yard scramble on 3rd down. While his faults were on display, the moxie in the fourth quarter after almost being benched is equally important, if not more, to remember.
Andy Lee - How does a 54.8 yard gross average sound? Andy Lee was just booming some punts. And as I mentioned, the one time he had a chance to flop for a penalty he didn't. Maybe smarter to take the flop, but Andy Lee is a real man, unlike every other punter in the league!
Bryant Johnson - BJ quietly put together another solid day and made some important catches late in the game. I'd love to re-sign him and see what kind of momentum he could carry over into next season. He was looking sharp in training camp before an injury more or less ended his camp. It took him a while to regain his stride and I think if healthy through camp next year, he could put up some really solid numbers.
The Bad
Rushing attack - There really was nothing there all day long. If not for Shaun Hill's scrambling, the numbers would truly have reflected the effort. Let's hope Frank Gore is healthy next week and gets a chance to crack 1,000 yards.
Defensive line - It was amazing how much they were hopping offsides in the first half. I would have put their performance in the ugly if not for another big performance from Justin Smith, including some key QB pressure late.
The Ugly
Rest of the game Shaun Hill - Wow, Shaun Hill was atrocious for most of the game. Fortunately he stepped up when the team needed him to, but we still have to acknowledge the Mr. Hyde to his 4th quarter Dr. Jekkyl. He lacked accuracy, he lacked arm strength and he made some bad decisions. It's hard to tell without closer video of it, but it seemed like some of those wobbly underthrows were due in part to poor grip. The game-winning TD actually looked like a throw a real QB makes, while the earlier passes looked like something I would have done.
First three quarter 49ers - It was a great win, but it's amazing how poorly the team played into the fourth quarter. I was originally going to put Mike Singletary in the bad, but I really don't know who should take the blame for the nonexistent effort through most of the game. Is the 10am start really that much of a problem? As bad as the 49ers have been at times over the past few years, this honestly might have been the worst performance I've ever seen. Of course, that makes the 4th quarter turnaround that much more amazing.
Looking Forward
Next Sunday the 49ers host the Washington Redskins who were eliminated from playoff contention with the Atlanta win today. Neither team is playing for anything besides pride and some momentum heading into the offseason. The Redskins are still a quality team, as evidenced by their victory today, so any kind of win would be good. The 49ers have already surpassed their 2007 win total, and a win next Sunday would equal their best record of the last six years. Singletary has done enough in my mind (and most others) to secure the 2009 head coaching job, but a win next week would leave him above .500 for the season. Certainly a nice feather in the cap, given how things could have gone.
Thanks again to everybody who joined in the game thread. Foosball4949 led the way in comments. A full breakdown after the jump.
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| Florida Danny | 8 |
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| Rishi | 6 |
| SSreporters | 5 |
| Cruithear | 5 |
| Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon | 4 |
| Nosetackle Supreme | 4 |
| TripTheNinja | 3 |
| R Dizzle | 1 |
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So, I missed the game because I was out buying useless crap for people.
What was up with Hill? Did he get exposed for not being that great, or did the rest of the team suck around him, or what?
by mikev on Dec 21, 2008 5:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think he got exposed for not being that great. I think it was a combination of him being a little off and Martz opening up the offense. The team took a LOT more shots downfield today than we’ve seen recently, and Hill’s arm got exposed pretty bady on those plays. Even the Morgan TD would have been an easy pick if not for a matter of inches. I think Hill’s worst plays really looked like the ones where he had to use his arm the most, and that’s as much of a playcalling fault as it was his own deficiencies.
On the other hand, I think that Hill has done a good job of compensating for his arm in the past, even on deeper routes, and mostly because he tends to make very good reads and rarely tries to push the ball into areas that his arm can’t push it. Today, he made more mistakes on those reads than he usually does.
But I don’t think he got exposed. I think the problems he had were issues that we always knew he would have and that the reason they looked bad today was just that he had an off day in some areas that he usually excels. That Martz’s playcalling failed to account for that in any way isn’t his fault, though.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2008 5:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I too, did not see the game...
It sounds to me like it was a cross between a Mike Martz Revenge Game and a “No Way On Earth We Lose To The Rams” game. Martz calls bigger plays figuring to ram it down their throats, expecting they can’t stop them, but it apparently didn’t turn out that way. Is that what you were seeing, or was there more to it than that?
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Dec 22, 2008 9:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hill looked pretty damn bad for 3 quarters, then Samurai Mike threatened to bench him and he looked like a completely different QB…
Shaun proved a whole heck of a lot to me about fighting through rough stretches and turning it into a positive performance.
by JerseyNinerFan on Dec 21, 2008 5:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
At the end of the 3rd quarter...
Rosen said “Happy Holidays to one and all” and I thought that must include the niners cos it looked to me like they had started theirs as well.
Those first 3 quarters have got to be the worst they have played in a game all season.
I think its fair to say that if O’Sullivan had had those 3quarters everyone would have called for his head – but I think its also fair to say that O’Sullivan would not have turned it around like that in the 4th.
To me, all the praise has got to go the HC. First, for threatening to bench Hill thus getting the response that he did – also,not wanting the ignominy of that happening when your parents turn up specially to watch(maybe that was the reason he used).
Second, to get the team to raise the intensity like that to keep going when, frankly, it looked like they had lost-to keep believing in themselves that they could turn it around and win.
For me, I am now convinced that Singletary should be the HC next yr going forward.
One thing I would say, it was lucky we were playing the Rams – 4TO’s against anybody else(except Detroit obviously) and we would have lost. I watched the Vikings game after, they had 4TO’s but were not so lucky. AP looked ordinary in that game. I know its stating the obvious but its still worth bearing in mind.
by Ninerfromacrossthepond on Dec 21, 2008 6:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, and congrats to Isaac Bruuuuuuuuuuce
HE WAS AWESOME TODAY.
by Ninerfromacrossthepond on Dec 21, 2008 6:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To me, all the praise has got to go the HC. First, for threatening to bench Hill thus getting the response that he did…
I’m not sure that I’m inclined to be as positive about this as you. First, the assumption that Singletary threatening a benching being the cause for the turnaround in performance. It could have just as well been a revision of the offensive gameplan for the fourth quarter, a personaly realization that the game was on the line, defensive breakdowns on the Rams’ part or any other number of things. Second, we all remember (of course) the benching of Vernon Davis. And while I’m ALL FOR allotting playing time based on performance merits, if he starts threatening to bench guys every single time they have an off day, then that act is going to get very tired, very fast.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2008 7:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
benching
It would certainly grow tired, but I think Singletary is the type that will pick his moments. And given the performance of HIll at that point, it wasn’t exactly a shocker that he might be benched. He was as ineffective as he could be. Even the best QBs are benched for ineffectiveness at times.
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by Fooch on Dec 21, 2008 8:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think it comes with some context, though. I mean, what was Singletary going to do… bench Hill for the guy he benched for Hill for sucking so bad…? I don’t know… it just seems like a see-saw sort of can of worms that you might not want to open when Hill has been so good from the day Singletary gave him the starting job. As much as there is a time for benching a guy, I think there is also a time for sticking with him, or for letting him know that you will stick with him (which is not the message that threatening a benching gets across). I think as a head coach, you want your players to see that you will react to poor play, but never overreact. IMO, Singletary was a trigger finger away from having an overreaction here, and telling Hill he would be benched might not have been the greatest vote of confidence.
There is a time for both methods. I’m not convinced this was the time for the threatening one.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Dec 21, 2008 8:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
reactions
I think part of why I don’t think it was an over-reaction was because of how flat the team was. I’m sure they cared about the game, but they were playing like they didn’t give a crap. We’ll never know what would’ve happened if Hill had been benched. However, given the fact that Hill was able to convince Singletary to let him keep playing indicates maybe Singletary wasn’t so sure about it. I’m curious what the post-game quotes will have to say about the whole situatio.
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by Fooch on Dec 21, 2008 8:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry guys..
Been watchin’ the Giants Panthers.. Awesome game..
As far as Hill..
..Stick with him, nice to hear it from someone else, anyway..
I’ve been with him since that injured TD pass, to a long gone Darrell Jackson, last year..
Bottom line he won, with no Gore.. he’s outshined HOF Brett Farve, and even in his worst perforformance, he showed he can win.. I said Morgan would have a big day..:)
He is with out a doubt one of the most consistant winning QB’s we’ve had since Garcia, he has had to build a relationship with his, VERY young (other than bruce, and the injury prone Johnson) with his receivers, under fire, and this is nowhere near the team, Steve Young had when he had to step in for Montana.
Yes he was sound asleep for 3 quarters, dazing off into the secondary’s eyes, but this is still a new thing for him, and hardly anyone gives him enough credit, yet he plays with more guts than 95% of NFL QB’s!!! Shaun is a winner, isn’t that what we want?
Correct me if I’m wrong, yes he needs to work on his fundamentals, (Feet, stepping up, griping the ball..etc) but mentally he has what it takes, and has only improved, untill the first 3 quarters of this game, but then he made the first 4th quarter comeback since when?!?
What is the the most admirable stat a QB can have, other than superbowl wins?
4th quarter comebacks. Give this guy a real chance..
..this coming in half way, through a horrible season, with an ok at best o-line, and after sitting 3rd string, is boo hah..
but merry cristmas to everybody..:)
by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on Dec 21, 2008 8:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Kurt Warner
Even the best QBs are benched for ineffectiveness at times.
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Dec 22, 2008 7:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Steve Young, 1994.
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Dec 22, 2008 9:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
MY FIRST NINERS GAME!
I’ve been a NINERS fan since i was born but this is my first NINERS game and what a game it was. Since the we play the RAMS twice every year, once in SAN FRAN and once in STL, I will from here on out, make this trip! STL is a great sports town. Tons of great sports bars and gracious fans! The love they showed for BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCE was just amazing. When BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCE scored that TD, there were just as many RAMS fans cheering and clapping as there were NINER fans and for that I have the utmost respect for RAMS fans and the city of STL! I will be back again! Now I just have to plan a trip to San Fran for a game. I went to my first San Fran GIANTS game last year.
by IDOLIZEDbyALL on Dec 21, 2008 9:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
..very cool!
..Bruuce deserves that, to earn such hallmarks, in a place where he will never be forgotten, definitely the best since Jerry, bravo rams fans.. I think this rivalry is more like the old school, niners-Raiders, contests.. may the best win!
The NFC west might be the stepping stone, in the NFL, but it’s nice to see, such mutual respect, for such long time rivals. I think it’s obvious both teams will be much better, next year , watch out CARDS!
by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on Dec 21, 2008 10:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
..oh yeah.. Rams fans!
..Give Haslett a real chance, I thought Sparano was out ther for a sec..
by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on Dec 21, 2008 10:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bryant Johnson, WR, Raiders
If the Niners let Johnson go, how much y’all want to bet he ends up a Raider? Because if there’s one thing Al Davis loves, it’s ex-49ers! And it sounds like their receiver corps is attrocious.
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Dec 22, 2008 9:49 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Defensive effort?
Again, I didn’t get to watch the game, so I’m curious what y’all thought. Looking at the numbers, Bulger completed just over 50% of his passes in 36 attempts, had a lower average than Shaun Hill, Stephen Jackson needed 30+ carries to go over 100 yards rushing with a 3.4yard average, and the Rams managed one TD and three field goals. And Tarell Brown sealed the deal with a late interception.
So looking at the numbers, that seems like a fairly good day for the defense. But it doesn’t seem like they looked very impressive, judging from some of the comments. So what did y’all see? How did they look?
Sorry for the back-to-back threads here…
"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler
by JRPhillips on Dec 22, 2008 10:01 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
It's be interesting to hear...
… because I missed the game, too. It looks like they were on the field a lot, based on the play-by-play at NFL.com. I guess turnovers and ineffectiveness on offense would do that to the defense. The cool part is that it seems like they did their best to neutralize that advantage the Rams had.
by sfgfan on Dec 22, 2008 10:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was at the game…..the defense surprisingly played really well. When we fumbled deep in RAMS territory, the defense came out and stepped up and shut them down and they had to punt. Our offense just wasn’t clicking. The 3 INT that HILL threw were no where near a receiver! He was over throwing most of the receivers by 5yards. It wasn’t that the RAMS D was doing anything special. Hill was making the RAMS D look like a bunch of PRO BOWLERS. With GORE being out, and us having no run threat, they could just drop back with 6 DBs and guard against the pass.
by IDOLIZEDbyALL on Dec 22, 2008 11:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Count me out as one of those...
Fans who “in their mind” think Sing is the answer for HC. That was a bad Rams team who dominated most of the game, and it’s obvious that without Hill, this team is toast, because he was horrid most of the game, but sucked it up, and beat bad Ram coaching down the stretch.
This is the kind of game that ensures mediocrity for the future, not success.
by drummer on Dec 22, 2008 12:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
ensures mediocrity?
Plenty of teams throw up stinker games and to be able to bounce back, adjust and pull it out in the end seems like a good skill to develop.
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by Fooch on Dec 22, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Considering that they mopped up the Lambs a few games earlier...
And came out flat for 3 quarters this game doesn’t give me any confidence at all. The 49ers weren’t “lucky” this game. The Rams have a trend in the 4th quarter leading to them losing games (as opposed to the trend of them getting blown out the first half), and the Rams coaching is as bad as it can get.
Here is a take from Bryan Burwell, a Lambs beat writer:
The 49ers beat BUF due to bad playcalling from BUF’s OC, and the Jets go as Favre goes, which, when Favre stinks it up, they tend to lose those games. The 49ers are performing better than when under Nolan, but that only makes Sing a bit better than Nolan, and against real good contenders, they will lose big if they played like they did yesterday.
There are rumors out there that Pioli might consider leaving NE. If Jed can snag Pioli, and get McDaniels on board, the 49ers will finally have the continuity they haven’t had in both the FO, and offense. Before last season, Maiocco pointed out that the margin of error for the 49ers was razor thin, and if they make any mistakes, it would lead to another bad season. This season is a bad season, especially since they’re on Year #4 of the “rebuild”, which really means they might have to “rebuild” part of the team all over again, and that will be on offense. We all love Sing because he is a good man, and an inspiration, but the 49ers current Ownership has not made a good decision on a Head Coach, because they haven’t had a good GM or VP to help them with that decision.
If the Fans and Media help the 49ers in making a crucial decision like the 49ers will have this off season, then they are toast.
by drummer on Dec 22, 2008 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone..
..Who doubts Singletary will not be, and excell, as head coach of the 49ers.. must be alot younger than me.. I’m 34
Singer / Guitar player / Frontman / Songwriter..
Yes I dare you to ask for my music..LOL!
by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on Dec 22, 2008 9:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but yeah..
.. our GM sucks! lets get Holmgren!
by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on Dec 22, 2008 9:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Enter..
..Jed
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on Dec 22, 2008 10:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A comeback win...
Over the Rams, who are as bad as the Lions, isn’t something to gloat over. That team is firing their GM after this week, maybe even sooner. What’s scary is, he is a friend of the Yorks. But, he hates Martz as well.
Maiocco on KNBR early this season talked about a conversation he had with veteran NFL scout, concerning Nolan. The scout said he thought Nolan wasn’t that bad of a HC (which most of us will disagree), but that the FO would hinder any HC’s success. Here is really how it lays out: Nolan brings in ScotM, and Sing. He lobbied for more help in the FO, thus Henegan. They still have Paraag, Tumey, and the multiple other VP’s that the Yorks give that title to. Paraag is the one who was the real catalyst behind Nolan’s hiring (over Jim Scwartz, the genius behind TEN’s defense). The only other person hired in the FO was Andy Dolich, for the Stadium issues. The only person that is gone as of right now is Nolan. The 49ers promoted 2 people that Nolan brought in. Now, tell me the 49ers have a real plan in place for the future. IMO, they don’t, and the only hope is that Jed has more of his Mother and Uncle in him than he does his Father. That’s it. Going with Sing means another inexperienced HC, left over from the Nolan era. Hiring Sing means going with the Status Quo, nothing more. Sing is taking them off of the hook with these “smoke and mirror” wins, when the real catalyst behind these wins is Shaun Hill, a guy Sing had nothing to do with as far as scouting him in the first place. I am not trying to be negative for negative’s sake, but this is what the reality is, and the Yorks are far removed from reality. I’m sure they are nice people, but they haven’t shown much competence in running this franchise. They need better help than what they have, because this team still has a lot of needs, and is nowhere complete. That’s after 4 years of the Nolan era, which again, has only Nolan missing from it.
by drummer on Dec 23, 2008 8:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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