San Francisco 49ers vs. Washington Redskins Open Thread
by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 9:45 AM PST
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Washington Redskins at San Francisco 49ers, Dec 28, 2008 1:15 PM PST
Date: December 28, 2008
Time: 1:15pm PST
Location: Bill Walsh Field @ Candlestick Park, San Francisco, CA
Records: 49ers (6-9) Redskins (8-7)
Bodoglife.com Spread: 49ers -3; Over/Under 37.5; Money Line: 49ers -150, Redskins +130 - Win and the under. Redskins secondary will contain the passing game, but not enough.
Weather: 52°, 10% chance of showers, Wind SSW 2mph
TV Broadcast: FOX - Ron Pitts, Tony Boselli, Charissa Thompson
Radio: 107.7 The Bone, 680/1050 KNBR - Joe Starkey, Gary Plummer, Rod Brooks
Spanish Radio: KIQI 1010-AM, KATD 990-AM - Fernando Arias and Ambrosio Rico
Redskins Coverage: Hogs Haven
Week 17 Prediction Contest - Remember that if you don't get predictions in for the morning games you can still enter predictions for later games and get credit. You get credit for any predictions entered by kickoff of the given game. So, if you forget today, you can still predict the MNF game.
Injuries
49ers: Probable - RB Frank Gore (ankle), C Eric Heitmann (abdomen), SS Michael Lewis (abdomen), FS Mark Roman (knee), OT Adam Snyder (ankle), LB Ahmad Brooks (back)
Redskins: Probable - G Pete Kendall (knee); Questionable - OT Jon Jansen (knee), DT Kedric Golston (ankle), LB London Fletcher (foot)
Inactives
49ers: Jamie Martin (third QB), CB Marcus Hudson, CB Reggie Smith, RB Thomas Clayton, LB Ahmad Brooks, C Cody Wallace, T Adam Snyder and TE Sean Ryan.
Redskins: Colt Brennan (third QB), WR Malcolm Kelly, T Devin Clark, G Will Montgomery, DT Ryan Boschetti, OL D'Anthony Batiste, LB Tyson Smith and DE Rob Jackson.
Fooch's Note: Gore will be starting today.
And so we reach the season finale. It's been a long season for the 49ers with plenty of lows and thankfully a few highs (or at least mediums I suppose). The team has certainly developed a sufficient amount of momentum heading into the offseason, but one last win would certainly leave a sweet taste to an otherwise sour season.
Aside from whether Frank Gore will play, one of the big curiosities is what kind of game the Redskins bring. They were in the drivers seat for a playoff spot before a 3-game losing streak ended those hopes. Jim Zorn went from an early candidate for coach of the year to a guy who might very well have to fear for his job. That's not the case in San Francisco and one of the reasons I just want this game over with is so the 49ers can officially lock up Mike Singletary. Either way, let's hope for a W to finish off this season.
Feel free to use this as the morning game thread as well. If we get a decent amount of early game chatter I'll plan on opening a new thread midway through the 49ers game.
GO NINERS!
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Good luck to Frank.
Get those 22 yards!
by DuikeBuike on Dec 28, 2008 10:31 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Jed York named Team President
So I’m guessing that means no Pioli. We’ll have plenty to discuss about this in the coming days.
http://www.49ers.com/pressbox/news_detail.php?PRKey=5053
John and Denise DeBartolo York announced Sunday that Jed York has been named Team President. In his role, York will oversee the team’s day to day operations in all aspects of the organization. His direct reports will be General Manager Scot McCloughan, COO Andy Dolich, and CFO Larry MacNeil.
"We are excited about the future of the 49ers in Jed’s hands" said John York. Previously, Jed York held the position of Vice President of Strategic Planning where he was responsible for the integration of brand strategies and projects related to the long-term operational and financial development of the organization. York joined the organization in 2005, where he held the position of Special Projects Manager and later served as Director of Strategic Planning. Jed’s prior positions with the 49ers were essential to his learning process as to how a major sports franchise functions in the NFL. "It was important that Jed learn every aspect of the 49ers and grow into this leadership role" said Denise.
…..
Jed York’s roots with the 49ers run deep. He is the oldest child of John and Denise DeBartolo York, the owners of the team. York’s uncle and godfather, Eddie DeBartolo Jr., was the former owner of the 49ers. York’s grandfather Edward DeBartolo Sr. bought the team in 1977. A 49ers fan since birth, Jed attended his first Niners game in 1984. His goal has always been to carry on his family’s tradition of success and excellence.
York began his career as a financial analyst at Guggenheim Partners, a diversified financial services firm in New York. He follows in the footsteps of his parents with respect of philanthropic interests. In June of 2007, York was elected to the Board of Directors for the Bayview Hunter’s Point YMCA, which has been a major beneficiary of the 49ers Foundation.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 11:45 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Meet the new Boss...
Same as the old Boss.
by drummer on Dec 28, 2008 11:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not necessarily
We don’t know a lot of much right now, but people have been getting a different vibe from this guy. Maybe being Eddie D’s godson helps. We’ll see.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 11:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is all we need to know...
“His direct reports will be General Manager Scot McCloughan, COO Andy Dolich, and CFO Larry MacNeil.”
I don’t see Paragg anywhere on that list.
by drummer on Dec 28, 2008 11:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Paraag
Paraag is a VP so while he may not be a “direct report” he still falls under him.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 12:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What is interesting is this...
The only person mentioned in the Football Operations dept. is McCluoghan. Dolich and MacNeil are FO people. Heneghan and Marathe are the 2 top guys in the Football Operations Dept.
by drummer on Dec 28, 2008 12:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
confused
What do you mean Dolich and MacNeil are FO people?
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 12:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
On the 49er Website...
They have a page that lists the “Football Operations Dept”. Heneghan is Executive Vice President of Football Administration,and Marathe is Vice President of Football Operations. They’re also listed as Management. Dolich and MacNeil seem to be more on the Corporate side of the team. ScotM is the only person mentioned in that press release that has anything to do with the team itself, and he is below Heneghan and Marathe in the chain of command in the Football Operations Dept, who are also responsible for what we see on the field.
by drummer on Dec 28, 2008 12:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
structure
It does appear that way in terms of McCloughan and Paraag. I definitely want to do more research into that.
And you’re right that Dolich and MacNeil are both corporate side. MacNeil is the CFO and I believe Dolich is in charge of everything off the football field. Again, things I’d like to be able to clarify.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 12:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm in Redskins country
nothing would make me happier then to see us kick some Deadskin ass this week and shut all of my friends and co workers up. I got my new Frank Gore jersey on and my mustache groomed hoping it will be a good luck. Go NIners!!
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
by 49erLou on Dec 28, 2008 12:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bucs-Raiders: Cadillac blows a tire
Cadillac Williams just broke a nice big run and on the tackle immediately grabbed his knee. I really feel bad for the guy. He just came back from a big surgery. As soon as the trainers got to him all you hear from him is, “Are you f—-ing kidding me?!” That sucks.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 12:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Vikes
just clinched the North
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
by 49erLou on Dec 28, 2008 1:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Predictions
Carolina just nailed a field goal to take a 33-31 lead. I had NO winning 34-30…gotta say, that hurts.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 1:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Eagles-Cowboys
With TB AND the Bears losing, winner of this game is in the playoffs, loser is out.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 1:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
THROWBACKS!!
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
by 49erLou on Dec 28, 2008 1:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
A Niners Win, Cowboys not make the playoffs, and especially... WARRIORS BEAT LAKERS
Please Niners, start this off to a PERFECT sports day for me.
by Golden Boy on Dec 28, 2008 1:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
almost gametime
light ’em if you got ’em fellas
Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!
by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 1:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bajema?
What’s wrong with Balmer returning kicks?
by Bob On The Coast on Dec 28, 2008 1:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Live stream of the game
Someone used this last week. I saw a mention of the 49ers game in there:
if anyone is having live stream problems try TVPC.com and click on live sports, find NFL and wait for the link to come up
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 1:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
this game means a lot for both teams….
Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!
by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 1:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
still the best tag line
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love those unis...
So sweet
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 1:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The guys in the booth
don’t seem to be paying attention to who’s on the field.
by Bob On The Coast on Dec 28, 2008 1:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
wow, finally Billy Bajema...
catches a pass on play action…
that play was 15 games in the making.
by shlecko on Dec 28, 2008 1:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What's all this stuff
of Gore in and out? He still gimpy?
by Bob On The Coast on Dec 28, 2008 1:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
the are saving the best for last
Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!
by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 1:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
nice improv by Hill
shovel pass wasn’t there, so he took it himself
by shlecko on Dec 28, 2008 1:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
TD Hill!
I love how Hill tosses the ball to an offensive lineman for the spike.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 1:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hell yeah
That was awesome
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips
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by marcello on Dec 28, 2008 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he's done that a couple times this year...
it’s becoming his trademark TD celebration.
Cool with me, because I doubt he’s got his own moves. Remember when Steve Young tried to dance with T.O. and Jerry, years ago? Yeah. I still have nightmares.
by shlecko on Dec 28, 2008 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just love when the big boys get to spike the ball. They’re so enthusiastic about it.
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by marcello on Dec 28, 2008 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sugar Hill baby, Sugar Hill!!!!!!!!
Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!
by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 1:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
go here
This is what someone posted last week and it seemed to work. Use internet explorer for it:
if anyone is having live stream problems try TVPC.com and click on live sports, find NFL and wait for the link to come up
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yea i have been, nothing doing so far. I can usually find it on justin.tv but no luck so far
by foosball4949 on Dec 28, 2008 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Try this link
and scroll down to the game
by drummer on Dec 28, 2008 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
direct tv my friend, direct tv
Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!
by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Walt Harris breaks up the pass
When he’s not getting burned deep, Harris usually does a solid job breaking up passes…
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 1:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
to be fair,
I can’t remember the last time Walt got beat deep in single-man coverage. Usually when guys get past him, the blown coverage comes from his not-so-best friend, Mark Roman.
by shlecko on Dec 28, 2008 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hill's not too shabby with the ball in his hands
by foosball4949 on Dec 28, 2008 1:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yeah, he did a nice job of riding his blocker
most receivers aren’t that smart…they like to run past their guys, rather than running behind them.
by shlecko on Dec 28, 2008 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
chilo on the other hand
may be the most awkward runner ever
by foosball4949 on Dec 28, 2008 1:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Rachal
But you gotta love the guy just dropping to the deck to avoid getting killed by Chilo
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it means you are afraid...
to not wanna get trucked by Rachal
by RobbieS on Dec 28, 2008 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this is true
Still amusing to watch.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
7 yards is nothing when you are wearing the throwbacks
Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!
by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I made it!
Go Niners!
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by wjackalope on Dec 28, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i do like foster, i hope he stays around one more year
by foosball4949 on Dec 28, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
younger, cheaper options available.
I’m sorry to see Foster get so few chances this year, but I’d expect to see us draft a halfback this offseason.
by shlecko on Dec 28, 2008 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
looking good so far
both in execution and uniform-wise
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by wjackalope on Dec 28, 2008 1:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to see a sideline shot with helmets off, panning down the line...
by foosball4949 on Dec 28, 2008 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There was a shot of JTO after Hill's TD
Looking pretty grimey :D
by RobbieS on Dec 28, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised
Fox is always looking for stuff to talk about other than the game. You’d think they’d be all about it
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Niners are moving the ball
The offense is clicking. Nice.
by Bob On The Coast on Dec 28, 2008 1:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
1st quarter TOP:
49ers: 7:55
’Skins: 0:58
by shlecko on Dec 28, 2008 1:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
Surprised Bruce wasn’t past the first down marker
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 1:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The guy in the blouse with the little hat on his head.
Which one did he go for, Whopper or Big Mac?
by Bob On The Coast on Dec 28, 2008 1:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
not as good as this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ikDsi-DJA
Ridiculous catch in yesterday’s Meineke Car Care Bowl
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, can't remember the last time jennings did that
by foosball4949 on Dec 28, 2008 1:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Mustache was weighing down his head.
by Bob On The Coast on Dec 28, 2008 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He was up late..
Frosting the tips on his stache
by drummer on Dec 28, 2008 1:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
holy crap, I have not seen Nedney miss much this year
Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!
by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 1:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
now I might be wrong but since the pats won that means the jets are eliminated right?
and now I can’t decide if I’d rather see the pats or the fins go to the playoffs…hmm
by foosball4949 on Dec 28, 2008 1:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ravens loss
Jets get a playoff spot if they win and Baltimore loses.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
time for the defense to step up
Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!
by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 1:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
lewis’ native american name is “Plays with no Gloves”…
Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!
by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 1:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
darn
I hate it when the other team scores
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by wjackalope on Dec 28, 2008 1:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ok
Anyone looking for a stream? If so, I can link one (took me almost an hour to find a decent one)
by Cruithear on Dec 28, 2008 1:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Rossum
Isn’t looking very electrifying post-injury =/
by Cruithear on Dec 28, 2008 1:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Fox Sucks
Glad they noticed that Frank Gore passed 1,000 yards.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 1:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
speak of the devil
Just acknowledged it a play later.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
congratulations gore!
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by wjackalope on Dec 28, 2008 1:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just for you
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
aw
thanks champ
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by wjackalope on Dec 28, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeesh
INTs are not good.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 1:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
way too much
lately
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by wjackalope on Dec 28, 2008 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Andy Lee
Even with a mustache he still looks like he’s a 12.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 2:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
hill
is looking more and more like JTO
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by wjackalope on Dec 28, 2008 2:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yep, but...
They really need to tighten up those WR cushions.
by RobbieS on Dec 28, 2008 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Weeeeak
Holding on Spikes? Ridiculous.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 2:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t see the hold on the replay…
by Cruithear on Dec 28, 2008 2:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely
Nice little stop, waiting on the spot though.
by Cruithear on Dec 28, 2008 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Lewis doubtful to return
Means Goldson will likely finish the game at strong safety. While it’s good see to Goldson get PT, two issues: 1) Hate to lose Lewis to injury, 2) Not sure if Goldson is suited to strong safety if he’s more of a ball-hawk type. Guess we’ll see.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 2:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Listening to the radio..
It sounds like the Niners are out there hitting pretty hard.
"We'd like to think that tickets will be hard to come by." Bill Walsh
by TripTheNinja on Dec 28, 2008 2:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Willis!!!!
Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!
by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 2:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
mark #(*#)(* ROMAN
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by wjackalope on Dec 28, 2008 2:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Come on!
What do you know, Mark Roman missed the sack.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 2:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Fox just made a horrible correlation
The under 20 touches leading to 0-4 is more likely related to the Skins getting down early and having to throw to get back into the game.
by Cruithear on Dec 28, 2008 2:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Common mistake
I’m sure Florida Danny would concur. People can be kind of stupid at times.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it was wrong
They have a pretty great D, and weren’t really out of too many games. It was just Zorn not giving the ball to Portis for whatever reason…
by RobbieS on Dec 28, 2008 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you guys know
WE STILL HAVE 2 TIME OUTS!!
"We'd like to think that tickets will be hard to come by." Bill Walsh
by TripTheNinja on Dec 28, 2008 2:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
1 left now
The Roman injury cost the second timeout.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 2:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is worse?
Having Roman out, or losing a timeout?
"We'd like to think that tickets will be hard to come by." Bill Walsh
by TripTheNinja on Dec 28, 2008 2:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this is not going well
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by wjackalope on Dec 28, 2008 2:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What the fuck
Defensive holding is not that damned common…
by Cruithear on Dec 28, 2008 2:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
What's up with Bizzaro Hill today?
Those are some shitty looking passes.
by mikev on Dec 28, 2008 2:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hill has not been sharp?
6/7 before that throw… int was bad, but still
by Cruithear on Dec 28, 2008 2:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
His 1st half stats are better than Romo's
9/17, 51 yds, 0 TD’s, 1 INT
"We'd like to think that tickets will be hard to come by." Bill Walsh
by TripTheNinja on Dec 28, 2008 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I still contend
They should have ran on that 3rd on 1 with the circus catch by Bruce. They were pounding them up the middle, why not keep taxing the Washington D?
by RobbieS on Dec 28, 2008 2:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
SECOND HALF THREAD OPENED
Let’s hope this new thread will bring some good luck in the second half.
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by Fooch on Dec 28, 2008 2:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Eagles are working over Dallas
Not that Dallas couldn’t come back. They have that kind of offense. But don’t even look like they want to be there.
by RobbieS on Dec 28, 2008 2:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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