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San Francisco 49ers vs. Washington Redskins Open Thread

Washington Redskins at San Francisco 49ers, Dec 28, 2008 1:15 PM PST


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Date:
December 28, 2008
Time: 1:15pm PST
Location: Bill Walsh Field @ Candlestick Park, San Francisco, CA
Records: 49ers (6-9) Redskins (8-7)
Bodoglife.com Spread: 49ers -3; Over/Under 37.5; Money Line: 49ers -150, Redskins +130 - Win and the under.  Redskins secondary will contain the passing game, but not enough.
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Week 17 Prediction Contest - Remember that if you don't get predictions in for the morning games you can still enter predictions for later games and get credit.  You get credit for any predictions entered by kickoff of the given game.  So, if you forget today, you can still predict the MNF game.

Injuries
49ers: Probable - RB Frank Gore (ankle), C Eric Heitmann (abdomen), SS Michael Lewis (abdomen), FS Mark Roman (knee), OT Adam Snyder (ankle), LB Ahmad Brooks (back)

Redskins: Probable - G Pete Kendall (knee); Questionable - OT Jon Jansen (knee), DT Kedric Golston (ankle), LB London Fletcher (foot)

Inactives
49ers: Jamie Martin (third QB), CB Marcus Hudson, CB Reggie Smith, RB Thomas Clayton, LB Ahmad Brooks, C Cody Wallace, T Adam Snyder and TE Sean Ryan.

Redskins: Colt Brennan (third QB), WR Malcolm Kelly, T Devin Clark, G Will Montgomery, DT Ryan Boschetti, OL D'Anthony Batiste, LB Tyson Smith and DE Rob Jackson.

Fooch's Note: Gore will be starting today.

And so we reach the season finale.  It's been a long season for the 49ers with plenty of lows and thankfully a few highs (or at least mediums I suppose).  The team has certainly developed a sufficient amount of momentum heading into the offseason, but one last win would certainly leave a sweet taste to an otherwise sour season.

Aside from whether Frank Gore will play, one of the big curiosities is what kind of game the Redskins bring.  They were in the drivers seat for a playoff spot before a 3-game losing streak ended those hopes.  Jim Zorn went from an early candidate for coach of the year to a guy who might very well have to fear for his job.  That's not the case in San Francisco and one of the reasons I just want this game over with is so the 49ers can officially lock up Mike Singletary.  Either way, let's hope for a W to finish off this season.

Feel free to use this as the morning game thread as well.  If we get a decent amount of early game chatter I'll plan on opening a new thread midway through the 49ers game.

GO NINERS!

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Jed York named Team President

So I’m guessing that means no Pioli. We’ll have plenty to discuss about this in the coming days.

http://www.49ers.com/pressbox/news_detail.php?PRKey=5053

John and Denise DeBartolo York announced Sunday that Jed York has been named Team President. In his role, York will oversee the team’s day to day operations in all aspects of the organization. His direct reports will be General Manager Scot McCloughan, COO Andy Dolich, and CFO Larry MacNeil.

"We are excited about the future of the 49ers in Jed’s hands" said John York. Previously, Jed York held the position of Vice President of Strategic Planning where he was responsible for the integration of brand strategies and projects related to the long-term operational and financial development of the organization. York joined the organization in 2005, where he held the position of Special Projects Manager and later served as Director of Strategic Planning. Jed’s prior positions with the 49ers were essential to his learning process as to how a major sports franchise functions in the NFL. "It was important that Jed learn every aspect of the 49ers and grow into this leadership role" said Denise.
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Jed York’s roots with the 49ers run deep. He is the oldest child of John and Denise DeBartolo York, the owners of the team. York’s uncle and godfather, Eddie DeBartolo Jr., was the former owner of the 49ers. York’s grandfather Edward DeBartolo Sr. bought the team in 1977. A 49ers fan since birth, Jed attended his first Niners game in 1984. His goal has always been to carry on his family’s tradition of success and excellence.

York began his career as a financial analyst at Guggenheim Partners, a diversified financial services firm in New York. He follows in the footsteps of his parents with respect of philanthropic interests. In June of 2007, York was elected to the Board of Directors for the Bayview Hunter’s Point YMCA, which has been a major beneficiary of the 49ers Foundation.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 11:45 AM PST reply actions  

not necessarily

We don’t know a lot of much right now, but people have been getting a different vibe from this guy. Maybe being Eddie D’s godson helps. We’ll see.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

This is all we need to know...

“His direct reports will be General Manager Scot McCloughan, COO Andy Dolich, and CFO Larry MacNeil.”

I don’t see Paragg anywhere on that list.

by drummer on Dec 28, 2008 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Paraag

Paraag is a VP so while he may not be a “direct report” he still falls under him.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

What is interesting is this...

The only person mentioned in the Football Operations dept. is McCluoghan. Dolich and MacNeil are FO people. Heneghan and Marathe are the 2 top guys in the Football Operations Dept.

by drummer on Dec 28, 2008 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

confused

What do you mean Dolich and MacNeil are FO people?

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

On the 49er Website...

They have a page that lists the “Football Operations Dept”. Heneghan is Executive Vice President of Football Administration,and Marathe is Vice President of Football Operations. They’re also listed as Management. Dolich and MacNeil seem to be more on the Corporate side of the team. ScotM is the only person mentioned in that press release that has anything to do with the team itself, and he is below Heneghan and Marathe in the chain of command in the Football Operations Dept, who are also responsible for what we see on the field.

by drummer on Dec 28, 2008 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

structure

It does appear that way in terms of McCloughan and Paraag. I definitely want to do more research into that.

And you’re right that Dolich and MacNeil are both corporate side. MacNeil is the CFO and I believe Dolich is in charge of everything off the football field. Again, things I’d like to be able to clarify.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

i'm in Redskins country

nothing would make me happier then to see us kick some Deadskin ass this week and shut all of my friends and co workers up. I got my new Frank Gore jersey on and my mustache groomed hoping it will be a good luck. Go NIners!!

Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal

by 49erLou on Dec 28, 2008 12:36 PM PST reply actions  

Bucs-Raiders: Cadillac blows a tire

Cadillac Williams just broke a nice big run and on the tackle immediately grabbed his knee. I really feel bad for the guy. He just came back from a big surgery. As soon as the trainers got to him all you hear from him is, “Are you f—-ing kidding me?!” That sucks.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

Vikes

just clinched the North

Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal

by 49erLou on Dec 28, 2008 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

Predictions

Carolina just nailed a field goal to take a 33-31 lead. I had NO winning 34-30…gotta say, that hurts.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

Eagles-Cowboys

With TB AND the Bears losing, winner of this game is in the playoffs, loser is out.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

THROWBACKS!!

Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal

by 49erLou on Dec 28, 2008 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

almost gametime

light ’em if you got ’em fellas

Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!

by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 1:15 PM PST reply actions  

Bajema?

What’s wrong with Balmer returning kicks?

by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 28, 2008 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

Live stream of the game

Someone used this last week. I saw a mention of the 49ers game in there:

if anyone is having live stream problems try TVPC.com and click on live sports, find NFL and wait for the link to come up

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

this game means a lot for both teams….

Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!

by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

still the best tag line

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotta love those unis...

So sweet

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:18 PM PST reply actions  

beautiful

Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal

by 49erLou on Dec 28, 2008 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

The guys in the booth

don’t seem to be paying attention to who’s on the field.

by Bob In Beaverton on Dec 28, 2008 1:18 PM PST reply actions  

wow, finally Billy Bajema...

catches a pass on play action…

that play was 15 games in the making.

by shlecko on Dec 28, 2008 1:19 PM PST reply actions  

Gore

I’d imagine they figure they’ve got all day to get him his yards and even if he’s fine don’t wanna worry about aggravating it…

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

the are saving the best for last

Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!

by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 1:22 PM PST reply actions  

nice improv by Hill

shovel pass wasn’t there, so he took it himself

by shlecko on Dec 28, 2008 1:22 PM PST reply actions  

TD Hill!

I love how Hill tosses the ball to an offensive lineman for the spike.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:23 PM PST reply actions  

Hell yeah

That was awesome

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips

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by marcello on Dec 28, 2008 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

he's done that a couple times this year...

it’s becoming his trademark TD celebration.

Cool with me, because I doubt he’s got his own moves. Remember when Steve Young tried to dance with T.O. and Jerry, years ago? Yeah. I still have nightmares.

by shlecko on Dec 28, 2008 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I just love when the big boys get to spike the ball. They’re so enthusiastic about it.

When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized God doesn’t work that way, so I stole one and prayed for forgiveness. - Emo Philips

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by marcello on Dec 28, 2008 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Sugar Hill baby, Sugar Hill!!!!!!!!

Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!

by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 1:23 PM PST reply actions  

go here

This is what someone posted last week and it seemed to work. Use internet explorer for it:

if anyone is having live stream problems try TVPC.com and click on live sports, find NFL and wait for the link to come up

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

direct tv my friend, direct tv

Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!

by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Walt Harris breaks up the pass

When he’s not getting burned deep, Harris usually does a solid job breaking up passes…

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

to be fair,

I can’t remember the last time Walt got beat deep in single-man coverage. Usually when guys get past him, the blown coverage comes from his not-so-best friend, Mark Roman.

by shlecko on Dec 28, 2008 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, he did a nice job of riding his blocker

most receivers aren’t that smart…they like to run past their guys, rather than running behind them.

by shlecko on Dec 28, 2008 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

chilo on the other hand

may be the most awkward runner ever

by foosball4949 on Dec 28, 2008 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

Rachal

But you gotta love the guy just dropping to the deck to avoid getting killed by Chilo

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

this is true

Still amusing to watch.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

7 yards is nothing when you are wearing the throwbacks

Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!

by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply actions  

I made it!

Go Niners!

Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

by wjackalope on Dec 28, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply actions  

younger, cheaper options available.

I’m sorry to see Foster get so few chances this year, but I’d expect to see us draft a halfback this offseason.

by shlecko on Dec 28, 2008 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

looking good so far

both in execution and uniform-wise

Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

by wjackalope on Dec 28, 2008 1:35 PM PST reply actions  

Hmmm

Surprised Bruce wasn’t past the first down marker

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:38 PM PST reply actions  

not as good as this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2ikDsi-DJA

Ridiculous catch in yesterday’s Meineke Car Care Bowl

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

how what?

Not sure what you mean. Was just a great catch

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean

how in the hell did he DO that?

by shlecko on Dec 28, 2008 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

holy crap, I have not seen Nedney miss much this year

Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!

by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 1:41 PM PST reply actions  

now I might be wrong but since the pats won that means the jets are eliminated right?

and now I can’t decide if I’d rather see the pats or the fins go to the playoffs…hmm

by foosball4949 on Dec 28, 2008 1:41 PM PST reply actions  

Ravens loss

Jets get a playoff spot if they win and Baltimore loses.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

time for the defense to step up

Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!

by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 1:46 PM PST reply actions  

lewis’ native american name is “Plays with no Gloves”…

Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!

by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 1:49 PM PST reply actions  

darn

I hate it when the other team scores

Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

by wjackalope on Dec 28, 2008 1:49 PM PST reply actions  

Ok

Anyone looking for a stream? If so, I can link one (took me almost an hour to find a decent one)

by Cruithear on Dec 28, 2008 1:51 PM PST reply actions  

Rossum

Isn’t looking very electrifying post-injury =/

by Cruithear on Dec 28, 2008 1:53 PM PST reply actions  

Fox Sucks

Glad they noticed that Frank Gore passed 1,000 yards.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:55 PM PST reply actions  

speak of the devil

Just acknowledged it a play later.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Just for you

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

aw

thanks champ

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by wjackalope on Dec 28, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeesh

INTs are not good.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 1:56 PM PST reply actions  

Nice

That stop was beautiful =).

by Cruithear on Dec 28, 2008 1:58 PM PST reply actions  

Andy Lee

Even with a mustache he still looks like he’s a 12.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 2:01 PM PST reply actions  

hill

is looking more and more like JTO

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by wjackalope on Dec 28, 2008 2:04 PM PST reply actions  

Weeeeak

Holding on Spikes? Ridiculous.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 2:11 PM PST reply actions  

I didn’t see the hold on the replay…

by Cruithear on Dec 28, 2008 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

They only call holds on 49ers

by Cruithear on Dec 28, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

holding

its not a hold when the ref is on the take

Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!

by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely

Nice little stop, waiting on the spot though.

by Cruithear on Dec 28, 2008 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Michael Lewis doubtful to return

Means Goldson will likely finish the game at strong safety. While it’s good see to Goldson get PT, two issues: 1) Hate to lose Lewis to injury, 2) Not sure if Goldson is suited to strong safety if he’s more of a ball-hawk type. Guess we’ll see.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 2:17 PM PST reply actions  

Listening to the radio..

It sounds like the Niners are out there hitting pretty hard.

"We'd like to think that tickets will be hard to come by." Bill Walsh

by TripTheNinja on Dec 28, 2008 2:18 PM PST reply actions  

hits

They’re certainly hitting hard, but the Redskins are still able to move the ball enough to overcome that.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

But the punishment could make a difference toward the end of the game.

by Cruithear on Dec 28, 2008 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Willis!!!!

Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!

by jfainsf49 on Dec 28, 2008 2:24 PM PST reply actions  

Come on!

What do you know, Mark Roman missed the sack.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 2:24 PM PST reply actions  

Fox just made a horrible correlation

The under 20 touches leading to 0-4 is more likely related to the Skins getting down early and having to throw to get back into the game.

by Cruithear on Dec 28, 2008 2:24 PM PST reply actions  

Common mistake

I’m sure Florida Danny would concur. People can be kind of stupid at times.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think it was wrong

They have a pretty great D, and weren’t really out of too many games. It was just Zorn not giving the ball to Portis for whatever reason…

by RobbieS on Dec 28, 2008 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Behind

Not necessary out of games, but being behind late in the game with time running out even by a few points and you need to move the ball with the passing game.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you guys know

WE STILL HAVE 2 TIME OUTS!!

"We'd like to think that tickets will be hard to come by." Bill Walsh

by TripTheNinja on Dec 28, 2008 2:24 PM PST reply actions  

1 left now

The Roman injury cost the second timeout.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Which is worse?

Having Roman out, or losing a timeout?

"We'd like to think that tickets will be hard to come by." Bill Walsh

by TripTheNinja on Dec 28, 2008 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

seriously

We’ll definitely be going with a new thread for the second half.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

What the fuck

Defensive holding is not that damned common…

by Cruithear on Dec 28, 2008 2:26 PM PST reply actions  

Hill has not been sharp?

6/7 before that throw… int was bad, but still

by Cruithear on Dec 28, 2008 2:32 PM PST reply actions  

His 1st half stats are better than Romo's

9/17, 51 yds, 0 TD’s, 1 INT

"We'd like to think that tickets will be hard to come by." Bill Walsh

by TripTheNinja on Dec 28, 2008 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously

70% of passes completed (80% technically, just one to the wrong team) is never too horrible.

by Cruithear on Dec 28, 2008 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I still contend

They should have ran on that 3rd on 1 with the circus catch by Bruce. They were pounding them up the middle, why not keep taxing the Washington D?

by RobbieS on Dec 28, 2008 2:33 PM PST reply actions  

Agree

Kind of strange to mix it up like that.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

SECOND HALF THREAD OPENED

Let’s hope this new thread will bring some good luck in the second half.

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by David Fucillo on Dec 28, 2008 2:39 PM PST reply actions  

Eagles are working over Dallas

Not that Dallas couldn’t come back. They have that kind of offense. But don’t even look like they want to be there.

by RobbieS on Dec 28, 2008 2:40 PM PST reply actions  

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