I never said thet you DIRECTLY put those words into my mouth. By grouping words such as dumb and persistent and we’re and Niners Nation you INDIRECTLY did.

That’s simple English. I know you don’t know much about the NFL but you do understand simple English!

For the LAST TIME.

How many games have you EVER watched of Jim McMahon?

I’ll be HAPPY to, in the Very Near Future, put together a “DVD’” with those and other quotes in it.

See, here’s what you’re doing when it come to McMahon. It would be like somone, NOT WATCHING ANY Niners games this year, and then hearing that their record was 7-9.

And then saying “Typical RECENT 49’ers season.”

See, that’s just based on numbers and stats. This season was ANYTHING but typical for the 49’ers (outside of the won/loss record) as they fired a coach in midstream and completely changed the teams mindset and attitude under Singletary.

One can only see and understand that by watching and not just by looking at the numbers.

Of course, as I said before, McMahon’s stats are going to be skewed by playing in the cold weather for a Run First coach. Also, I’m not talking about his complete career, when he was completely banged up. I’m talking about his years as a Bear, the prime years of his career.

Anyone that compares McMahon to Dilfer based on numbers CLEARLY doesn’t “get it.”

Maybe you know or have heard that McMahon and Ditka butted heads quite often in Chicago. One of the reasons for that was, early on, Ditka was kind of pissed off that McMahon didn’t spend HOURS and HOURS watching film like Staubach did in Dallas. The reason? McMahon had almost a photographic memory when it came to game situations. All he needed was to see things ONCE on film and then he knew what to do. He was like Bird and Gretzky that way. All those guys saw things better and faster than most players.

That was part of his “greatness.”
Nobody ever accused Dilfer of that ability.

Were actually a bunch of wise ass remarks, not that he was a solid QB. Since I watched all of those guys and you haven’t here’s some info:

Marino, Elway, Montana, Fouts. Esiason and Moon were all in BASICALLY “pure passing offenses.”
Please don’t split hairs here cause at some point you have to generalize a “touch.”

Jaws, Simms and McMahon all played in far more conservative offenses.

ALL were excellent QB’s. OK! No dogs here.

Marino, Elway, Fouts, Moon and maybe Esiason all had “rocket type” arms. Montana, Jaws, Simms and Mac were just a cut below.

Jaws was an effecient, blue collar guy who at one point set a consecutive games streak. Simms and McMahon were similar in era, coaches and systems played in. McMahon was MUCH more of a vocal leader of his team than Simms. That’s not a slap against Simms. McMahon used to go out with his offensive lineman every Thursday to a restaurant/bar called the Prime Minister. He used to “head-butt” his lineman. Those things endeared him to those guys and helped forge an cohesiveness and identity on the offense.

Leadership like that CANNOT BE OVERSTATED. It’s why Ditka, along with myself, said that McMahon was the missing ingredient in their Super Bowl run. Payton and Buddy Ryan had been there for a while.

I have always said that about McMahon being the missing ingredient even though I was/am a HUGE Buddy Ryan/defensive football fan and I think (along with Ditka and others like John Madden) that Walter Payton was the greatest all around player in NFL history.

What the Bears were missing was an excellent passer and a LEADER on offense, A QB who was an excellent passer (as evidenced by his BYU days) and who could manage the game (not throw STUPID turnovers).

Here’s a story of McMahon’s “genius” as a QB. During one game, McMahon called an audible at the line of scrimmage and threw an easy touchdown pass to TE Emery Moorehead (whose son now plays for the Colts).

In the papers the next day, Moorehead was quoted as saying " I asked Jim how he knew he should audible to a pass cause the DB hadn’t moved towards the line tipping off a blitz. McMahon said that “he could see it in his eyes.”

I’ll translate that for you. Moorehead was somewhat incredulous that McMahon knew enough to audible into a play that would defeat the blitz because the DB hadn’t tipped his hane by creeping in and showing blitz. McMahon sais that he could "see it in his (the DB’s) eyes that he was about to blitz.

That, my friend, is great QB play. So much happens during a game that doesn’t show up in the “stat sheet” it’s not funny.

If a QB never threw more than a five yard pass he’d probably have an unbelievable completion percentage and almost no interceptions. Of course, his team would never win but, Hell, his stats would look good.

Knock him all you want. With all due respect, you really don’t know.

If you really want to learn I’d be happy to make and send you a DVD.

How many games of McMahon’s have you EVER watched?