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Just for the hell of it: Should the 49ers pursue Alge Crumpler?


Before anybody blows a gasket, consider these the bored musings of a football fan in February.  For those that didn't here, Alge Crumpler was released by the Falcons today, along with Byron Leftwich, OT Wayne Gandy, DT Rod Coleman, and three other veterans.  Already, ESPN's football blog, "Hashmarks," is reporting that Crumpler could be bound for Carolina.  Crumpler is from Greenville, NC and was hoping to get drafted by the Panthers, so a free agency return is a very real possibility.

While we wait for that to happen though, I though it would be fun to at least ponder him as an option in the 49ers new and improved offense.  Had we signed almost any other offensive coordinator I'd say go for it, but Mike Martz is not exactly known for prolific tight end performances.  But for the purposes of this exercise, we'll just look at this from a more general perspective and consider the good and the bad to it.

Positives
When Eric Johnson was around, I really liked the idea of a 2-tight end set involving him and Vernon Davis.  Johnson could catch anything thrown his way while Davis could spread the defense.  Crumpler struggled last season, although part of that is due to playing with some craptastic quarterbacks.  Crumpler would have been 4th on the 49ers behind DJack, Vernon Davis and Arnaz Battle in receiving yards.

Imagine though what the team could do with a guy like Crumpler.  There is of course the traditional 2-tight end formation.  But the reason I really like the second tight end is when the Disease is split out wide.  Suddenly you've got the supremely athletic Davis as a receiver and the great hands of Crumpler.  If Davis is going to be the game-breaker this team has bee searching for, the addition of Crumpler would add another great receiver-type to the offense.  I still like the idea of bringing in another young WR through the draft, but I think this would produce some immediate dividends.

Negatives
Two words: Delanie Walker.  Walker is still developing, but I think he's on his way to becoming a decent option at tight end.  His first year saw him active in only 7 games, making 2 receptions for 30 yards.  Last season he played in all 16 games and finished with 21 receptions for 174 yards and 1 touchdown.  Why bring in Crumpler who's starting to grow a little long in the teeth, when you've got a guy like Walker who most of us are fans of.

I certainly don't see Crumpler ending up in San Francisco.  There are the salary issues and the fact that the team really doesn't need him.  However, considering the glory he has brought me in fantasy seasons past, it's always interesting to at least consider the option.

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We should not go for crumbler
I think that we should get some minor free agents. D.J hackket or Bryant Johnson at WR, SSean Lackler at OT, and Calvin Pace, Demarrio Williams, and even a big name like Terrell Suggs at OLB. Tehm get Patrick Sims in the first round and spend the next two or third picks of OL to increase depth. After that, get some little needs like maybe a backup for Gore, a KR, or a potential third sting QB.

by montasmob69 on Feb 15, 2008 11:16 PM PST reply actions  

Agree
My pick for the first round is definately Pat Sims. Even if we resign Soap, he could play DE in the 3 man front, and team with Sims in the middle when we shift to a 4 man front.If we could get a solid WR in free agency, then that need is pushed into later rounds, if not then WR in second round, followed by OL. I want to see what Clayton can do backing up Gore this year.  

by illini49er on Feb 16, 2008 8:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Re. Alge
Why I think it's a good idea to get Crumpler.  
-Davis is injury prone.
-Alge could be to the Niners what Moss was to the Patriots.
-Crumpler can catch the rock.

Why I think it's a bad idea.
-Crumpler made 5 mil in 2006.
-We have Davis and Walker.

Bring back the YAC!

by jfainsf49 on Feb 16, 2008 7:30 AM PST reply actions  

No Way
My take on Crumpler.......
He was only good because Vick cant complete a legitimate pass to a receiver.  Plus vick would buy time and thats why he was always so wide open..... there is no damn reason to sign crumpler.  

by Qbgetter13 on Feb 16, 2008 2:38 PM PST reply actions  

No on Crumpler
We have a lot of needs to fill tight end is not one of them. As far as Suggs goes he would be a great player to have but I don't see Baltimore letting him walk away this year I bet they will put the frachise tag on him and try to work out something long term or see if they can deal him in a trade next year.

by Rodney79 on Feb 17, 2008 11:28 AM PST reply actions  

Eh...
"We have a lot of needs to fill tight end is not one of them."

See, I don't get this line of reasoning. By the same token we have a lot of needs to fill and linebacker isn't one of them. We have a lot of holes to fill and backup running back isn't one of them. I don't agree with not making a move that will improve the team because that move doesn't fill a more pressing need. If it improves the team, I mean that's the ultimate objective. It's the "Aaron Rowand sux" argument you hear from disgruntled Giants fans. Now, Giants fans have a lot of reasons to be disgruntled, and a few reasons to be disgruntled over that particular signing, but the fact that he's not a 3B is not on the list of good reasons.

Where this gets dicey is if an Alge Crumpler signing takes cap space that then prevents an acquisition that would have helped the team more. We're in pretty good cap space, and I don't think that would be the case.

Now, personally I don't really care for a Crumpler signing. I think he's a declining "star" who was never an elite player to begin with. His production may likely not be any better than Walker, and if it's not then he's essentially dead money. So nah, I don't think I'd go for Crumpler, but the idea that "don't do it because there are bigger problems" just doesn't make any sense to me. An improved team is an improved team, regardless of the hole it fails to fill (assuming Crumpler would improve the team - which I personally don't, but for the sake of argument only I'm saying it).

I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down... over and over....

by howtheyscored on Feb 17, 2008 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

To fair
"We have a lot of needs to fill tight end is not one of them."

I look at it like this.  We've got Vernon Davis who by all means should be a hell of a lot better than Crumpler.  With that said, Crumpler would be the #2 TE on the team and I'm sure there are teams, Seattle and Carolina (are possibilities just off the top of my head), out there that are going to pay Crumpler #1 TE money and in my opinion he wouldn't be worth that kind of money to the Niners because they do have other needs that I'd rather see the Niners spend their money on.

Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Feb 17, 2008 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with this line of thinking
I do agree with this completely. And if this is in fact the intended meaning of the sentence in question, then I'm just arguing semantics and it's not worth the fight and I'm just being an ass. Though, to my credit, those semantics aren't particularly clear. If, on the other hand, the intended meaning is actually "We have a TE so why even entertain the thought?" (which is how it appears to me), then I'll let my argument stand.

But I do agree with your argument against Crumpler whole-heartedly.

I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down... over and over....

by howtheyscored on Feb 17, 2008 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Not saying your right or wrong
But just weighing in on how I view the "...we've got more pressing needs to address" phrase.
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Feb 18, 2008 6:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes
Thank you for so succinctly responding to the one thing in my comment that was the least consequential to the actual point I was making, and for responding to it in a way that shows my point was obviously secondary only to the purposes of ignoring it.

We do, in fact, have bigger holes to fill on this team than MLB. I didn't say it wasn't a hole. I just said we have bigger holes to fill and that the fact we have bigger holes is no good reason to say "hai guyz don't bother signing a LB wut we need is NT!"

I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down... over and over....

by howtheyscored on Feb 17, 2008 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I disagree
In my opinion, Brandon Moore is more than capable of playing of ILB along side of Willis.  Playing ILB next to Willis is probably the easiest position in the Niners defense.
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Feb 18, 2008 6:54 AM PST up reply actions  

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