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49ers Free Agent Round-up: Dontarrious Thomas


EDITOR'S UPDATE 1:35AM - I just came across Matt Barrow's thoughts on Thomas over at the Sacramento Bee. Check it out at the end.

One day down and the 49ers were plenty active.  Rather than go into great detail about our new 2nd string running back, DeShaun Foster, or our new 3rd string quarterback, J.T. O'Sullivan, I thought I'd primarily discuss Dontarrious Thomas.  While there will be plenty to discuss about the other signings, Thomas is the one guy that most of us don't know much about, or what kind of impact he can provide.

So, I spoke with Chris over at Daily Norseman, our Minnesota Vikings blog.  He had some interesting thoughts on Dontarrious Thomas:

Thomas was the primary backup at all three linebacker positions in 2006 and 2007, stepping in for spot start duty when injuries warranted.  In both of those seasons, he was an outstanding special teams player, and could always be found getting in on a lot of tackles on kickoff and punt returns.  Thomas is a bigger linebacker, and has pretty decent speed for a guy his size.  I honestly believe that his athletic ability isn't what's holding him back. . .like I said, he's big, he's fast, and he's built like the proverbial brick outhouse.  The problem thus far is that the mental part of his game really hasn't caught up with his physical ability.  That's not to say that Thomas isn't intelligent. . .far from it, in fact. . .but when he's been called upon in game situations, he's gotten beaten in coverage quite a bit and has a tendency to make the wrong reads.  He could be an interesting fit in a 3-4 scheme, because I think he's versatile enough to play any of the four linebacker spots because of his physical talents.  He'll make an immediate impact on the 49ers special teams, and in time should be a decent contributor to their defense as well.

I also found his Scouts, Inc. scouting report over at ESPN.com:

Thomas has all of the measureable physical skills you look for in a NFL linebacker combining size, speed and athleticism. The development of those skills has not been immediate as Thomas must continue to improve his understanding of the game of football to better diagnose offensive schemes, blocking combinations and routes to react and make plays. Unfortunately, the game does not come naturally for Thomas with his lack of football instincts and his limited ability to process the game makes him hesitate in his reactions. This is a liability and will keep Thomas from being effective playing in the middle. Thomas must improve the angles he takes often having to use his excellent burst to overcome being out of position. Thomas has outstanding straight line speed giving him the range to play the entire field. Thomas plays with great effort making plays with his tremendous closing speed in pursuit. Thomas uses strong technique and is a good open field tackler bringing an explosive snap when he tackles the ball carrier. Thomas has the ability to be a good man coverage player but is susceptible to double moves also having to improve his awareness to be in better position when playing zone coverage. Thomas is best suited as weak side linebacker to utilize his outstanding physical talents without having to make too many decisions on the run. Thomas also excels as a tremendous special teams player with his speed and explosiveness.

From Matt Barrow's Sac Bee blog (check his blog out throughout the day for further info):

As for Thomas, Seifert (Vikings beat writer, NOT former 49ers coach) said that he is incredibly fast and athletic and is a very sharp guy. He did say, however, that there was a sense that Thomas never tapped his potential in Minnesota. When I told him that the vacant Ted linebacker spot in San Francisco required a player who wasn’t shy about taking on blocks, Seifert said that Thomas was more of a chase-down-the-ball carrier type player than a pound-the-line-of scrimmage player. That could mean that Thomas is being signed more as a back-up to Patrick Willis than as a replacement for Derek Smith. Perhaps the move is designed to allow Jeff Ulbrich, who is now Willis’ back-up, a chance to slide to Ted. Maybe it’s designed to light a fire under Brandon Moore. It is interesting to note that Thomas had one of his best games in his brief career (and one of his rare starts) against the 49ers in 2006 when he finished with eight tackles and a sack.
The common thread on him is that he excels at special teams and while he hasn't turned the "mental corner," he has the physical tools to be a very good linebacker.  Maybe learning under Mike Singletary's tutelage will make things happen for him.  Obviously Patrick Willis was a different type of physical beast, but he definitely benefited from working with Singletary.  Let's hope for the same for Dontarrious Thomas.

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does this really rule out briggs?
if we lose out on smith and faneca couldnt the briggs deal be revisted?  especially since it looks like thomas will be mainly a special teams contributor and a backup at any or all of the 4 spots.  with lawson, moore, and willis pretty much guaranteed to take 3 spots, ulbrich, tbc, and thomas would be great backups, but not so good starting at that other spot.  i'm not sure i want to give briggs a mega deal but if he were willing to take something of a discount to play close to home, we'd instantly have probably the best linebacker group in the league.

by sam23 on Feb 29, 2008 11:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Maiocco...
...seems to believe that Thomas may actually be the favorite to take over Derrick Smith's old position (stepping ahead of Brandon Moore).

by sfgfan on Mar 2, 2008 6:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As a Brandon Moore fan...
I don't understand why he seems to get dogged by Nolan.  I thought it was a mistake to move him out of the starting lineup in favor of D. Smith after Willis took Smith's spot. I know Moore has a tendancy to wear down but I thought he would have been much more explosive than D. Smith last year.  Perhaps Nolan wanted Smith out there to give stability and veteran leadership to Willis but I still think Moore could be an excellent second fiddle to Willis on the inside. Maybe Thomas will learn a lot of Singletary and be great but I don't understand why Moore can't get no love.
Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Mar 3, 2008 7:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You sort of nailed it.
I think you've sort of nailed the primary reason why Moore was benched last year.  With Willis winning out the starting role so fast, playing him along-side Moore may have led to disasters (at least that may have been the fear).  Starting in the preseason (which is where Moore eventually lost his job), Moore was trying to be the playmaker on the team, when his position asks him to take on more of a "second fiddle" kind of role.  That resulted in blown assignments and stupid mistakes on Moore's part.  Nolan hates nothing more than just playing wrong, which is what Moore did on several occasions last year (I seem to recall at least two running into the kicker penalties and at least one late hit on the QB, among other things).

Derek Smith was a dependable steed.  He knew what he had to do and he did it.  The strong-side ILB, which is where Smith (and Moore was supposed to have) played isn't supposed to be the tackle hog.  They take on the lead blockers so that the weak-side LB can come in to make the play.  Moore couldn't grasp that and was thus benched.

He wasn't benched out-right, though.  He was still playing DE on passing downs to rush the QB, a position he thrived in the previous season.  When he wasn't succeeding in that, he was slowly pushed out and eventually was stuck on special teams duty.

With that said and done, I think he's got the opportunity to come back this year.  Thomas's contract doesn't guarantee him a spot, and Nolan extended Moore's contract for a reason.  Nolan sees things he likes in Moore, but Moore's got to develop into a better player.  It'll be interesting to see how those two duke it out during minicamps and OTAs.

by sfgfan on Mar 3, 2008 9:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree
i like moore.  any chance we could see him on the outside with tbc playing only on pass rushing downs?  i know haralson seems to be the favorite to take that role now, but i think moore would give them a more intimidating d.  

by sam23 on Mar 3, 2008 10:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's all a matter of situation...
I think that if the 49ers were to switch to a 4-3, today, it's very likely that he would end up being an OLB (competing with Haralson and Thomas on the weak-side).  However, in a 3-4, you want your OLBs to have a slightly bigger frame than Moore's 6-1 (even if he does weigh in a 255).  I think his build is pretty ideal for the strong-side ILB, which is where the 49ers have him penciled in at.

Could he provide a spark on the outside?  Perhaps.  But I also happen to believe that Parys Haralson is capable of the same kind of spark.

by sfgfan on Mar 3, 2008 10:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Justin Smith
It's not official yet, but according to MM the 49ers have agreed to terms with Justin Smith for 6 years / 45 million (that's actually less per year than he received last season when he was tagged).  Great news for the defense, especially when you consider the guy has barely ever missed a snap and never missed a game in his career.

So I guess this means our first priority in the draft will probably be an offensive lineman, which makes sense in a year that has a lot of talent in that position.

So far with Foster, Rossum, Bruce and Smith, I think the 49ers are having a good off season.

by jaytierney on Mar 1, 2008 9:05 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Also...
I just wanted to add this in advance before someone mentions Smith only had 2 sacks last season: the Bengals secondary was so pathetic, it was almost impossible to sack an opposing QB because receivers could get open so quickly.  On the other hand, he did have a bunch of tackles, meaning he's a good run stopper.

by jaytierney on Mar 1, 2008 9:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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Just noticed your comments on Smith.  I threw up a front page post on the topic.
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by Fooch on Mar 1, 2008 9:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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