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2008 NFL Draft Open Thread


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After months of chatter, the time has finally come for the 49ers to hopefully take another step forward in their eventual return to some kind of glory. Over the past few months, the 49ers have been projected to take everybody from James Hardy and Early Doucet to Jerod Mayo, Gosder Cherilus, Quentin Groves and even Mario Manningham. So who will the 49ers end up snagging? Your guess is as good as mine. A perfect example of how crazy this whole prediction process can be is the fact that Matt Maiocco ran two columns, one on 7 players the 49ers would not draft and another list of guys who could end up as 49ers. The amusing part? Quentin Groves was on both lists. So really, the safest bet is to say they'll take everybody and nobody.

I think rather than say who I think the 49ers will draft, I'll put together a wish list of some options.  With those first two picks, I've made it relatively clear I want some combination of OL, DL and/or OLB.  I do not want a wide receiver.  Drafting wide receivers in the first round is just a formula for disaster, so consider me skittish.  Specific names you say?  Well Gosder Cherilus is on my radar, although either MM or Barrows made an interesting point.  A team wants an all-around good player and if a guy like Cherilus struggled at the college level when switched to left tackle, will that be an issue?  While he'd be the 49ers right tackle, his natural position, it still makes you wonder.

Beyond Cherilus, I certainly would have no problem with Quentin Groves, and I must admit that Calais Campbell has climbed up my radar.  A big ole defensive lineman would be nice, even with the addition of Justin Smith.  Campbell would be able to learn from a true workhorse and provide us with some great depth.  Jerod Mayo is a guy I could certainly envision alongside Patrick Willis, but we'll see where he ends up going.  I was involved in a mock draft with NBC Sports and when Cherilus and Groves went early, I figured what the heck, and drafted Jerod Mayo.

Alright, so as to draft day, I unfortunately will be in and out throughout the day and will not be pulling the insane live-blogging option, thus this open thread.  However, a few pointers now that we've got the new platform.  I think FanShots are perfect for draft day responses.  If we draft someone and you find a youtube video of him or a link to an interesting story about a guy, you can either post it as a comment here, or create a FanShot.  For those still wondering how to do them, click "New FanShot."  At the next screen, you need to click on video or link, depending on what you'll be doing.  If it's a video, you just need to copy and paste the embed information into HTML embed.  If you want to post a link, click on link and just follow it accordingly.

So we're rolling through 2 rounds tomorrow and 5 on Sunday.  I'll have tons of analysis and thoughts on the 49ers picks, although it may come later in the afternoon/evening.  Either way, I hope everybody enjoys the draft and has fun with the new site.  The automatic refresh of comments should lead to more discussion and hopefully things will be busy enough that I need to open a new thread or two.  Let's hope for some great things today!

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The irrational Cal fan in me is still hoping for DeSean Jackson. I know he doesn’t fit on this team and he’s small but my gut says that he would at least be fun to watch. The rational part of me is hoping that we go with the safe pick and Cherilus is still on the board.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 8:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Me

I’m just hoping for that embarrasing first round slip to some douche. Last year was my favorite. Suck it, Brady Quinn.

What highly ranked players in this years draft are particularly douchy?

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 9:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Agreed. That was incredibly delicious. I don’t think there is anyone that is slated to go in the Top 10 that I would call douchey enough to warrant that kind of embarassment.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

For me...

It was the look on Quinn’s stripper-esque girlfriend’s face that really made it pop for me.

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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

#2

Adam Schefter is reporting that St. Louis is taking Chris Long at #2. I think that has to mean ATL takes Glenn Dorsey then, unless New Orleans really comes up with a big offer to move up with ATL to get Dorsey.

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 9:03 AM PDT reply actions  

They could still take Ryan.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure

But I think they’d be better off with Dorsey at #3 then waiting until round 2 or trading into the end of round 1 and grabbing one from the Brohm/Henne/Flacco group. Not going to get an impact defender like Dorsey at that point in the draft, but you could grab a comparable QB then.

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw that

And suddenly I don’t understand why I thought that Long’s stock had dropped. How could it have possibly dropped? He’s huge, he’s polished, and he’s got all the daddy stuff.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Watch out for the Rams D!

Their building a pretty good young defensive front line with Long at DE and Carriker at DT.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

LaVelle Hawkins

DeSean Jackson would certainly be interesting, but I’d really like to see the 49ers grab Hawkins later.

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by David Fucillo on Apr 26, 2008 9:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Hawkins later

Could be a very nice pick. I have my reservations about Lavelle, but he did have a very nice year and he has a lot of things that the Niners should be looking for in a WR.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

have fun boys

wish I could stay, and who knows, maybe I’ll be able to hop and on provide some drunken analysis at some point!

Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners classic Unis

by wjackalope on Apr 26, 2008 9:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah have fun boys

It’s going to be 91 in Manhattan Beach today and I’m walking down to the beach shortly and start checking out my own prospects but they’ll be wearing two pieces and not shoulder pads and helmets.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really didn’t need the visual of Jake Long in a two piece….

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gholston, though

He’s MONEY in a bikini.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

drinking much?

How early did you start drinking today?

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by David Fucillo on Apr 26, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

A little from column A, and a little B…

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

And no, also

Nonsense smokescreen answers aside, sadly no inebriation this morning. I actually have crap to do (who has crap to do on a Saturday morning?). Papers to fill out and junk. All this bikini talk is just a fun distraction from that mess.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, let's hope so

Your drunken ramblings were a highlight last year.

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 10:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Baltimore trying to move up to #2

Schefter said that Baltimore is trying to move up to #2 to grab Ryan, because Atlanta is set to take him at #3. Would be a blockbuster if it gets done….

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 10:41 AM PDT reply actions  

It would have to be

I don’t think the Rams have a lot of good reasons to move from #2 right now (or rather, they’re doing a great job of making it seem that way), so the Ravens would have to give them some very good reasons… I can only imagine the bounty it would take.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mooch says

It would take 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounders, which doesn’t sound like enough to me. He mentioned including a player. If I was STL I’d ask for 1st and 2nd this year and #1 next year…that wouldn’t be too bad though. If STL moves to #8 Chris Long could land in their lap still.

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Michael Smith reporting Raiders to take McFadden

I guess they’re looking at a DMC/Fargas backfield rotation?

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by David Fucillo on Apr 26, 2008 10:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Schefter says

Barring a trade it’s JLong/CLong/Ryan/McFadden 1-4.

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

forgot about bush

They could have quite the running back combo there…Do they try and deal Fargas or just hope he can be productive in such a big time-share?

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by David Fucillo on Apr 26, 2008 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

rhodes?

I’d assume rhodes is out the door as well…hasn’t been much of anything for them.

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by David Fucillo on Apr 26, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've always liked Fargas...

But I get the feeling they just don’t believe in him over there—it took them forever to give him a real shot at significant playing time. Not that you have to hate your running back in order to like DMC better.

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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

mortensen is reporting

That the Ravens are offering #8 and Suggs to the rams for #2. Pretty sweet deal if you ask me.

by enut21 on Apr 26, 2008 11:10 AM PDT reply actions  

suggs free agency

He’s only signed through this coming season I think…if the rams can resign him great, if not, such a good idea?

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by David Fucillo on Apr 26, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Suggs

They would have a year to work out a long term deal. Probably a better situation then giving a hge contract to a Rookie at 2.

by enut21 on Apr 26, 2008 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would be ideal I would think

Suggs gives you the pass rusher at DE they want, still young enough to lock up long term, plus you land another quality guy at #8. Hard to pass up I’d think.

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

They could get Suggs and Ellis at #8 instead of Long or Dorsey at #2. I would take my chances that Suggs would sign a new deal.

by enut21 on Apr 26, 2008 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sh!t

I got work.

Theoretically, what time will the 49ers pick so I know when to take my break?
3-ish?

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by jtoj on Apr 26, 2008 11:13 AM PDT reply actions  

The pick

28 picks taking between 8-10 minutes…around 250 minutes, probably closer to 4.

by enut21 on Apr 26, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah just realized my math was off

damn 60 minute hours, why can’t there be 100 minutes an hour.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

We haven't gone metric yet.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kirk Herbstreit on Matt Ryan: “His intangibles are off the chart.”

Me: “If they are intangibles, how can there be a chart for them?”

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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 11:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Maybe he's talking about the tangibles chart

In which case, the intangibles would necessarily be off of it.

In which case, there would be no nood to SAY it… but that never stopped people from saying stuff before.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mooch

Not a strong interviewer.

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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Keyshawn's an idiot

did anyone hear him say that replacing Vick in Atl is the same as replacing Marino in Miami.

plus, look at that suit!

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by Nosetackle Supreme on Apr 26, 2008 11:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Keyshawn is truly an idiot

For so many reasons. Last year during the draft was priceless. When he was still technically on the team, he talked Steve Smith’s ear off about how he was going to “take him under his wing.” An awkward conversation. Then he gets the boot the next day. Awesome.

by Call It The Throw on Apr 26, 2008 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

12:00

Here we go! First pick “made.”

Now it gets interesting!

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Will the Ravens move up here?

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 12:07 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll tell you in less than 4 minutes.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pre-drafting draft picks

Am I alone in thinking that the league should ban the practice of deciding on a contract with college players before the draft? I know there’s nothing technically wrong with it, but it robs the draft of suspense and excitement. I think its going to get worse and worse every year too. Next year we might know the first five picks before the draft even begins.

by Call It The Throw on Apr 26, 2008 12:09 PM PDT reply actions  

It wasn’t really all that suspenseful last year either. I’m not really sure about banning it. I don’t really have a problem with it..

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

There’s that as well.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Plus

only the first pick is allowed to negotiate. The NFL said that the Rams weren’t allowed to talk with any players until the draft.

by good as gold on Apr 26, 2008 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

He doesn't have Howie Long's angles

There’s a resemblance there, but I don’t think Chris is going to be making any movies without those distinctive Long cut cheekbones.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Chris Long

Tom Jackson already has this guy going to Canton. That’s probably a bit premature to be penciling any of these guys into the Hall of Fame.

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by Nosetackle Supreme on Apr 26, 2008 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Ryan looks happy.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 12:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Matt Ryan

TXT KNG!

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:18 PM PDT reply actions  

No surprise there

What else could they do with it?

-

Good news for me: This means the Troy Smith era in Baltimore is THAT much closer to being a reality!

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Yep

Dorsey+2nd tier QB is better than Ryan+2nd round defender

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s just so unbelievably striking that Matt Ryan is pretty much the Anti-Vick in every way I can think of.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Oakland

Nowhere near McFadden’s upcoming babies.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:27 PM PDT reply actions  

“Just a Southwest flight away”

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ding

Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding….

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are now free to visit your baby mamas...

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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Glenn Dorsey looks fairly nervous.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh

I guess I misread “happy the GM called” for nervous. Oops.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool

So far I’m 4/5, and the one I missed (Long) I got the position right (picked Gholston).

Looking good through 5!

Then again, I think a lot of people are looking good through 5 picks.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Who would the niners be taking at 7?

If we hadn’t flipped it to the New England Cheaters?

by Call It The Throw on Apr 26, 2008 12:38 PM PDT reply actions  

I think they'd be trading.

Honestly. They could use a few extra picks, and the team doesn’t really have a pressing top 10 need.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blame Merton Hanks...

He’s the hat guy.

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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somebody please punch that 15 year old Packer fan up there for me.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:42 PM PDT reply actions  

New England trading the pick as well.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Mayock

Guys who say “tailback” are so quaint.

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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

NO

New Orleans picking Ellis was the first step in my Mock draft falling apart. I had them taking a CB in the first round, and now Baltimore can’t take Ellis like I guessed they would…

This is only the beginning.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

What did Baltimore get?

I’m away from TV and stuck with the draft-tracker on ESPN right now, it doesn’t list trade compensation…

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

1st rounder, 2 3rd rounders and a 5th

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, it was a 4th? WOW

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

two 3rd rounders on top of the first rounder? Very big.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huge haul. I don’t know if it’s worth it to pick Harvey there.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you Cinci

With the nice and predictable pick.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

So if you're NE

Do you trade this pick too?

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

If they’re targeting a CB, then yes.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jerod Mayo for the Patriots. Very interesting.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 1:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

Mayo can play inside or outside, which fits the patriots style. thats what Mel said anyway. lol

by good as gold on Apr 26, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised

It still feels like a reach at 10. I wonder if there were just no buyers for that 10 pick, because I would think if they traded out they still could have had Mayo at a lower pick.

Then again, what the hell do I know?

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea I don’t disagree that the pick fits for the Patriots but it feels like a reach at number 10.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitly

We kept hearing how he was going to fall to us at 29

by good as gold on Apr 26, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great for Mayo, though

If I were him, I’d be looking to get PAID now.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Pretty much all Defensive guys so far with the exception of Ryan and McFad

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

and the Long, the 1st

by cornball on Apr 26, 2008 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yes, THE LONG. Forgot about him somehow.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boomer seriously?

“Last years first was the longest and this years could be the shortest.”

Obviously, teams only have 10 mins to pick and not 15.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Scoring question

HTS, I’m curious about a team like the Pats that traded back. I had them taking Rivers at #7, they took at him at #10. In the rules, Fooch said that it was 2 points for the right guy at that right spot, and his example is DeSean Jackson to Buffalo. Does that mean strictly team and player match for 2 points, or is it player/team/pick# for 2 points?

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, scratch that part.

I meant to put in Mayo there in my question. But the question is the same. Player/team for 2 points or player/team/pick#? Mayo should net me 1 point I guess, but I’m curious about the other part.

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

My understanding was right team, right player, 2 points. Right team, right position, wrong player, 1 point. Right team, right side of the ball, .5 point.

Let me go back and make sure. That’s how I had it in my head.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

It’s just confusing language. As long as the Pats stayed in the first round, your prediction goes toward that pick. If a team gets an extra pick in the first round, your prediction goes toward their earlier choice that round (nobody has done it yet, so my making that rule explicit now does nobody any advantage at this point). If a team trades out of the first round, all the predictions for that team get scratched.

You would get 2 points if you pick Mayo to go to the Pats at #7 and they took him at #10 because of a trade.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool

then I just got 2 points for Albert to KC. Good to know.

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh wow

I didn’t realize you included trades in your mock draft. We weren’t counting on that kind of dedication, The way I would rule it this second is that for your first KC pick you predicted Albert, but with KC’s actual first pick, they took Dorsey. So I don’t see that as any points, actually.

If that doesn’t seem fair, let me know why and I’ll shoot Fooch an e-mail for an executive decision.

There’s been mock draft activity we weren’t counting on when we made the rules up (for instance, predictig trades, or predicting by player order rather than team order), and we’re working out the kinks as they come up.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

I did two versions mostly for fun anyway. I don’t want the front page post to be honest because I have no idea what I’d write about if I did win, but I do think that methodrampage and I should get some credit for Albert to KC, not necessarily 2 points but something.

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

That sounds reasonable

I think that sounds perfectly agreeable. I think 1 point is probably fair considering you did pick an exact player.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds fair to me

I really like the suggestion of the interactive live mock for next year. That could be really cool.

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's how it's written

It’s trades that I’m asking about. The only mention of them is if a team trades out of the 1st round completely. I’m just curious if trading back changes anything or not. Say you had Mayo to the Pats at #7 originally, but he goes to them at #10. Does that still get you 2 points, or is it different since it’s at pick #10 instead of #7?

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, that's the question I was trying to answer.

The answer is yes, you still get 2 points. It was just worded funny in the rules.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I get two points for Albert here?

I had them taking him with their first pick but they ended up taking him with their second.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

As I said to gatling, I would rule against it right now because you predicted Albert as KC’s first pick of the round, and they took Dorsey with their actual first pick. You picked Merling for their second pick, and they actually took Albert with their second pick. Their third pick, if they don’t trade it, won’t count for anybody.

If you don’t like that, I’m willing to defer to Fooch. We’ve had some weird scoring stuff going on with some non-conformist mocks, so we’re adjusting as problems crop up.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

ALSO

gatling made a good point that you should get some compensation for picking an exact player, regardless of whether or not the order was there. I’m leaning strongly toward 1 point, and if I don’t get any objections that’s how I’ll score this thing any time it crops up.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

“They’re going to be asshats”

I believe that’s called “staying the course”.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 1:36 PM PDT reply actions  

touche

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keyshawn honoring Yassir Arafat with his shirt today?

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Kiper likes Rogers-Cromartie’s “heighth”. I wonder how he feels about his “weighth”.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 1:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Or his lengthth.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

OH MAN!!

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

This stinks

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

OMGWTFBBQ!

GOSDER CHERILUS CONSOLATION VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNHLywCfnHI

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 2:00 PM PDT reply actions  

No way you can be bummed after seeing that.

Look, even Joe Flacco’s smiling.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ughh

So far this draft is not going the 49ers way. Options for trading down are dwindling and the tackles are getting taken sooner than I thought.

by enut21 on Apr 26, 2008 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

THE TROY SMITH ERA IN BALTIMORE IS OVER!!!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 2:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Still, it was pretty glorious while it lasted.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh

It was AWESOME.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weird...

I wonder who Baltimore thought they had to beat out to grab Flacco so high. Not Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, Washington, Dallas, or Tennessee… I’d think….

Was Seattle on the rampage???

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 2:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh wait.

Scratch that. That’s the spot they traded DOWN into.

I’m stupid.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, you were right the first time

they traded to 26 first, then back to 18. I’m guessing that they were concerned about a team like Miami, NYJ, or somebody else trading up in the mid 20’s for Flacco. They probably gave up #26 and one of the 3rds they got when they moved down to start with

"You're a terrible ballplayer, but you've always been a great asshole."-salb918 on Ozzie Guillen

by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a matter of fact...

I have a close friend who has contacts with the Dolphins, who told me the team loved Flacco.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should add...

Parcells supposedly isn’t a big fan of Beck.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Any word on MIA and Henne?

He was the guy I had them pegged for if they move back into round 1.

"You're a terrible ballplayer, but you've always been a great asshole."-salb918 on Ozzie Guillen

by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know

His big tip was, “Don’t be surprised if they trade up into the end of the 1st round to take Flacco if they don’t think he’ll make it out of the 1st.”

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah wow

This draft-tracker is killing me.

Either way, I guess the Ravens were pretty desperate to get their guy. I would have thought any of the second round QBs would have been about as acceptable as Flacco. But I guess I would have thought wrong.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

TB, Ten, and Was all still have to pick (and us, I guess….). Those are the teams I still have pegged as looking for WR. But with every single receiver still on the board, his chances are NOT good to go in this first round.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea, the satellite video made it look like Washington’s pick.

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trading the pick

No word where yet

"You're a terrible ballplayer, but you've always been a great asshole."-salb918 on Ozzie Guillen

by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Atlanta

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jesus.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

damn

come on—pulling for merling or balmer at this point….

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Apr 26, 2008 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

TB goes Talib!

Another team I had looking for a first round receiver staying the hell away.

Geez.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 2:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Sam Baker for Atlanta

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 2:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I think you're still missing a few >'s

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

For sure

I just don’t get this draft by Atlanta

"You're a terrible ballplayer, but you've always been a great asshole."-salb918 on Ozzie Guillen

by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

So much for the niners gettin a OL in the 1st or 2nd

No way they reach for one now.
Maybe Groves in the first and desean jackson in the 2nd

by Duckyparty on Apr 26, 2008 2:38 PM PDT reply actions  

what are we looking at now?

can we agree to take Sweed if he falls to us

by good as gold on Apr 26, 2008 2:42 PM PDT reply actions  

It seems like we’ll have our choice of WRs if we so choose to take one.

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Later, too.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sweed

If we take him at 29 i’m gonna throw something at the TV screen

by enut21 on Apr 26, 2008 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Connor

Then Groves or Crable and the D is set.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where do I sign up?

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Completely agree

Lawson/Connor/Willis/Groves would be a SICK LB corps

"You're a terrible ballplayer, but you've always been a great asshole."-salb918 on Ozzie Guillen

by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Steeleresque!

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with this. If I’m thinking rationally.

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

A little weird. You think they’d have more pressing needs.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they were looking OT but the run killed that idea

I kind of saw this coming as I heard they were looking at RB in this draft and Mendenhall is a pretty goo value here.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Biggest need

was OL, but with the run on them, no need to reach. A WR might have been good, but hard to argue with Mendenhall this late.

"You're a terrible ballplayer, but you've always been a great asshole."-salb918 on Ozzie Guillen

by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Congratulations

To everybody who had DAL tal=king Felix Jones.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 2:48 PM PDT reply actions  

To be fair

Chris Henry was an abortion of a pick in the 3rd last year.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Abortion” is such a strong word. Can we go with “Miscarriage”?

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I apologize

A couple of Pacificos and the sensitivity flies out the window.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

We will let it slide

since you’re drinking decent beer. If you had said PBR or something, forget it.

"You're a terrible ballplayer, but you've always been a great asshole."-salb918 on Ozzie Guillen

by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

$20 a case at Costco

I try to keep 30 in the fridge at all times

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re better prepared for this draft than the Falcons!

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

We should probably

send Falcon fans over to method’s house to have a couple of those beers to ease the pain.

"You're a terrible ballplayer, but you've always been a great asshole."-salb918 on Ozzie Guillen

by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT?

Is going on here?

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's early but,

Johnson is a good return guy, plus he’s a very good receiver. White and Henry are smashmouth guys, Johnson is an extremely fast guy. Not what I’d have done, but I think it works out.

"You're a terrible ballplayer, but you've always been a great asshole."-salb918 on Ozzie Guillen

by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow

Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Apr 26, 2008 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

is anyone gonna take a wideout?

by Duckyparty on Apr 26, 2008 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

mann...

espn has me all confused

by Duckyparty on Apr 26, 2008 2:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Dallas moves up one spot to take....

Mike Jenkins

"You're a terrible ballplayer, but you've always been a great asshole."-salb918 on Ozzie Guillen

by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 3:00 PM PDT reply actions  

It was 4 spots wasn’t it?

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

3 actually.

Had the two Texas teams confused.

"You're a terrible ballplayer, but you've always been a great asshole."-salb918 on Ozzie Guillen

by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

We're in the hole!

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 3:06 PM PDT reply actions  

That's what she said!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not a Bocock joke, but it'll do

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy crap

I can’t believe I never saw a “Bocock’s in the hole” joke….

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

We're on deck!

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 3:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm not sure how to turn that properly...

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Think of Bocock and it’ll come.

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I think you have to actually touch it.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope it takes more than that!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever you do, do not touch it

And don’t look straight into it’s eye.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man

This venting commercial sucks shit.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:14 PM PDT reply actions  

This Underarmor commercial is starting to get on my nerves as well.

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trade back

Thats what we need to do, I don’t see great value for anyone at #29.

by enut21 on Apr 26, 2008 3:14 PM PDT reply actions  

This is the commercial I got my sig from.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:14 PM PDT reply actions  

I miss my NinersNation signature....

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me

I just regret that we’ll never see Grant’s “Cruella Loville” anymore.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

So

Does this mean USC wins the first round?

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Tick, tick, tick...

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

That's not a fair clip to show!

Longshore would have fumbled that ball even if this guy hadn’t run into him!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Pick was in quick!

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow

That was fast.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID!!!

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I told you not to touch it!

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

We get any WR we want!!

Come on Jackson!!!!

We still believe!!

by R Dizzle on Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I love Chris Berman.

Like days of yore. He’s such a fanboy.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Balmer

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT reply actions  

They're saying NT.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kiper says NT

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

My bad

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Berman said NT

And my draft board says he plays DT, so that could likely translate to NT with his size.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

only 308lbs

Your 3-4 DE typically run 290-300lbs. I think the Niners are trying to run a hybrid 3-4/4-3

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

Nice point.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh.

I don’t mind that. I really don’t.

First impression, but that’s how I feel right now.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh come on

If you were going WR, with EVERY WR still on the board, Jackson would have been an awful pick.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed, and now it’s a very short pick for the 2nd round pick.

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most of the WRs

will still be available in the 2nd, Groves might still be there too.

by Viliphied on Apr 26, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're Right

With our high pick in the 2nd round, we’re bound to get a good one.

That pick was just a bit anti-climactic

We still believe!!

by R Dizzle on Apr 26, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really though

I hope we don’t go WR in the 2nd. We have a lot of WRs, and Martz should be able to get good production out of them. I want something resembling a pass rush.

by Viliphied on Apr 26, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know I know

It’s the home team fan boy in me

We still believe!!

by R Dizzle on Apr 26, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m as big a Cal fan as anybody. Love Desean. Skeptical about him, but I love the guy.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can live with it

Running down the wing
Hear United sing
Viva Ronaldo

by ChrisHero on Apr 26, 2008 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm indifferent

Only because I was chubby on Connor and Groves/Crable

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

not exciting

but I like it.

Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Apr 26, 2008 3:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Well of course YOU do.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose I'm kinda biased

Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Apr 26, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of these WR's is hopefully avail at 39

Running down the wing
Hear United sing
Viva Ronaldo

by ChrisHero on Apr 26, 2008 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m sure they will be with the way this is going.

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

39

We are taking Lofton, Groves, Nicks or Collins.

by enut21 on Apr 26, 2008 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t believe Sabean took another high school pitcher.

by Grant Brisbee on Apr 26, 2008 3:23 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

squeeeeeeeeeee!!!!! celebrity sighting!!

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing you’ve been saving that joke for the last 3.5 hours?

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

No!

Spur of the moment, dammit! I work Saturdays - like, really work - so any comments I make are precious…

by Grant Brisbee on Apr 26, 2008 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey

You’re not Cruella Loville!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know.

I can’t claim that name and still have teh hawtness of SBN site-hopping.

by Grant Brisbee on Apr 26, 2008 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Second impression

At the earliest signs of draft season, I was CLAMORING for a guy who could become a true Nosetackle. As time went on, it became clear that there weren’t many top tier guys who would have value at our pick who weren’t likely to go much higher. So I adjusted. I still wanted a NT in the back of my head, but I decided that for value, DE or OL (even LB) would be much better.

But looking at it, I had Balmer going a lot higher. A lot of mocks had Balmer going a lot higher. So we actually had a high tier NT fall to us, and we took that value. As long as Balmer is capable of growing into a true NT, I think this does more for our defense than any other pick might have potentially done. It creates a ton of flexibility on the DL, letting Sopoaga and Franklin play end more often, where I think they are more effective, and doing a lot to open rushing lanes for our LBs. We might see TBC and Lawson make more of an impact rushing the passer this year with Balmer (hopefully) clogging lanes the way he should.

-

This post is based completely on the assumption that Balmer can become a real Nose. If he can’t, then I just don’t know how I feel.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:28 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

If Balmer can play NT I’m good with the pick if he was drafted as a 3-4 DE I don’t like it.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pfff

I still like it.

OL > DL > QB > DBs > LBs > RBs > WR when building a team IMO.

Stack your lines, the rest will fall into place

by Viliphied on Apr 26, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless your QB is a complete incompetent

Then your team will stink regardless.

Fortunately we have a former #1 overall pick so no worries there…

by Salemicus on Apr 26, 2008 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

tell that to NE, I hear their D is pretty ok.

by Viliphied on Apr 26, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hear that Castillo guy is pretty good

And i think that Williams fellow is alright as well

by Viliphied on Apr 26, 2008 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, right

but when Castillo was out, Phillips only got 2 sacks (6 games, Phillips had 8.5 total)

by Viliphied on Apr 26, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

To clarify

Merrian > any DL on SD

Thomas > any DL on NE

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Merriman

is by far the best defender on that team!

by good as gold on Apr 26, 2008 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, he's the most visible

because he makes the big plays. SD has one of the best DLs in the NFL. He wouldn’t be putting up those stats if he was playing behind scrubs that the opposing OL didn’t have to worry about.

by Viliphied on Apr 26, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most dynamic

doesn’t mean the best.

If you told me i could have my pick of Thomas, Seymour or Wilfork, (assuming for argument they were the same age/had the same # of playing years left) I’d take Wilfork every time.

by Viliphied on Apr 26, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

k

my defense would still be better than yours

by Viliphied on Apr 26, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

or so you claim

last time I checked your not a GM and neither am I so think debate is even pointless by my drunkeness standards.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly though

Why do you think that Thomas is free to make the plays he does? It’s because NE has a crazy good DL, and the OL isn’t able to get to him to disrupt him.

by Viliphied on Apr 26, 2008 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because he's that good.

All your DL in a 3-4 need to do is occupy blockers, they’re not playmakers.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's a gross oversimplification

Why do you think NE has been able to plug in whatever player 30 or older they wanted to at LB and still be successful

by Viliphied on Apr 26, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seau is not whatever player

If they could plug whoever why did they spend mega bucks on Thomas. Stop belittling the Merrimans, Thomas’, and Lewis’.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying they're not good players

Or that you could just plug in some scrub and get the same production

I’m saying they wouldn’t be putting up the kind of numbers they have been if they didn’t have All-Pro DLs in front of them.

by Viliphied on Apr 26, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Niners drafted 2 3-4 DE last year

Cohen and McDonald. Now we have a third in 2 years and still no pass rush.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

one was injured

McDonald showed promise, but nothing close to Seymour, they had a career backup, an aging BY and a greatly overachieving Douglass. The same TBC we watched all year put up pretty good part-time numbers with NE’s line in front of him.

by Viliphied on Apr 26, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

They they wasted those picks

And thats why the Niners suck. It takes them 3 picks to get it right.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

How is spending a 3rd and a 4th

on a DE with promise and a backup (at the NFL level) DT wasting them? Who else was available that would have been a better pick?

by Viliphied on Apr 26, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

GOD DAMMIT

I finally get to get back on the TV for this, and they’re STILL SHOWING THAT PUSSFACE PACKER JERSEY POINTING BRAT BASTARD???

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:35 PM PDT reply actions  

It'll take me a few days probably.

In about a half hour my weekend gets stacked, and then I have to spend Monday making sure I actually have a job. So I’m aiming for a Tuesday results show. It’ll take some time to tally just because I’ll have to cross-check so often. I’m not sure I’ll have that much time between now and then.

Hopefully the wait isn’t too excruciating.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally unacceptable

I was just messing with you, I figured it would take awhile but I want to know now.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Balmer

As far as I know Balmer isn’t a true NT in a 3-4. He is a 3-4 end or a 4-3 DT. He will be in the rotation on our d-line and can play in the middle when we have 4 lineman. He is Tall so maybe he can add some bulk.

by enut21 on Apr 26, 2008 3:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Man...

I want to see this 2nd pick before I get on with my day…any guesses?

We still believe!!

by R Dizzle on Apr 26, 2008 3:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe

Maybe they assumed all the WRs were actually gone already….

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

The wide receivers are flying off the board now

Who will be left by the time it’s the Niners’ pick?

by Salemicus on Apr 26, 2008 3:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Steal for the Skins.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Wr's

We aren’t taking one today, what don’t people understand about that.

by enut21 on Apr 26, 2008 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Suck it, Favre!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:50 PM PDT reply actions  

love that video they show where they keep calling him ‘Bret Favor’

by drink409 on Apr 26, 2008 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

ahahhahhahahabacon!

that was sarcastic.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:51 PM PDT reply actions  

We're in the hole!

(Psst—You’re on, Howie)

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 3:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Huh?

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, God Dammit!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're fired.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

We're on deck!

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

We're up to bat!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Tick, tick, tick...

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 4:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Niners taking their time this time

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 4:01 PM PDT reply actions  

are we going to trade

Might be able to get groves a bit later in the round

by good as gold on Apr 26, 2008 4:03 PM PDT reply actions  

That’s what I’m thinking as well.

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's the hold up, guys?

Looking to trade, or cofused that Malcolm Kelly is still on the board?

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 4:03 PM PDT reply actions  

2 minutes....

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

While we're young!!!

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh god

If there’s a little Raider in me, I think I might need to schedule a surgery.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Here we go!

STOP COVERING THE NBA!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 4:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Rachal

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 4:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow

Chilo Rachal, OG

Didn’t see that coming.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 4:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Chilo Rachal?

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 4:06 PM PDT reply actions  

I quit

Fortunately if I step it up I’m only a couple of hours from forgetting this whole thing.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

?????

Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Apr 26, 2008 4:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Meh

Running down the wing
Hear United sing
Viva Ronaldo

by ChrisHero on Apr 26, 2008 4:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Now, I don’t have any problem with the team going OL while there’re still guys there, but this guy was never on my radar. I don’t know anything about him or how he fits with us.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 4:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Kiper says he can play RT?

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Grain of salt.

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rachal from SBN mock:

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2008/4/19/115215/655

"You're a terrible ballplayer, but you've always been a great asshole."-salb918 on Ozzie Guillen

by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 4:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Buffalo gets Hardy

Great pick for them. Awesome upside, and ridiculous value at this pick.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Can't wait for BUF to move to LA

but I’ll settle for MIN with Jerrod Allen

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nolan said Rochal reminds him of Larry Allen.

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 4:21 PM PDT reply actions  

That's weird

I saw a really fat guy the other day who reminded me of Larry Allen.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I saw that guy. I see Kwame more

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

waits 13 years for Rochal to look like Allen

by drink409 on Apr 26, 2008 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

My roommate went to USC

He said Rachal is really young, haven’t looked him up yet.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nolan

He also said its good to have 2 good quarterbacks, it would be better if we had 3 or 4. Is this some kind of cryptic message that we are gonna take a QB late in the draft?

by enut21 on Apr 26, 2008 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dixon Pls?

On top of just liking the guy, the dick jokes on this site would skyrocket.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

OMG WOMEN LIKE DIAMONDS BLOW JOB TIME

Seriously, television makes me hate Valentine’s and Mother’s Day.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 4:23 PM PDT reply actions  

New Thread

I opened up a new thread with the 49ers picks and some quick initial thoughts…more certainly to come

Niners Nation - The premier 49ers blog on the Internet!

by David Fucillo on Apr 26, 2008 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

“This kid’s gonna be a football player” – Mel Kiper

Nice prediction there, meat.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

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