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2008 NFL Draft Open Thread

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After months of chatter, the time has finally come for the 49ers to hopefully take another step forward in their eventual return to some kind of glory. Over the past few months, the 49ers have been projected to take everybody from James Hardy and Early Doucet to Jerod Mayo, Gosder Cherilus, Quentin Groves and even Mario Manningham. So who will the 49ers end up snagging? Your guess is as good as mine. A perfect example of how crazy this whole prediction process can be is the fact that Matt Maiocco ran two columns, one on 7 players the 49ers would not draft and another list of guys who could end up as 49ers. The amusing part? Quentin Groves was on both lists. So really, the safest bet is to say they'll take everybody and nobody.

I think rather than say who I think the 49ers will draft, I'll put together a wish list of some options.  With those first two picks, I've made it relatively clear I want some combination of OL, DL and/or OLB.  I do not want a wide receiver.  Drafting wide receivers in the first round is just a formula for disaster, so consider me skittish.  Specific names you say?  Well Gosder Cherilus is on my radar, although either MM or Barrows made an interesting point.  A team wants an all-around good player and if a guy like Cherilus struggled at the college level when switched to left tackle, will that be an issue?  While he'd be the 49ers right tackle, his natural position, it still makes you wonder.

Beyond Cherilus, I certainly would have no problem with Quentin Groves, and I must admit that Calais Campbell has climbed up my radar.  A big ole defensive lineman would be nice, even with the addition of Justin Smith.  Campbell would be able to learn from a true workhorse and provide us with some great depth.  Jerod Mayo is a guy I could certainly envision alongside Patrick Willis, but we'll see where he ends up going.  I was involved in a mock draft with NBC Sports and when Cherilus and Groves went early, I figured what the heck, and drafted Jerod Mayo.

Alright, so as to draft day, I unfortunately will be in and out throughout the day and will not be pulling the insane live-blogging option, thus this open thread.  However, a few pointers now that we've got the new platform.  I think FanShots are perfect for draft day responses.  If we draft someone and you find a youtube video of him or a link to an interesting story about a guy, you can either post it as a comment here, or create a FanShot.  For those still wondering how to do them, click "New FanShot."  At the next screen, you need to click on video or link, depending on what you'll be doing.  If it's a video, you just need to copy and paste the embed information into HTML embed.  If you want to post a link, click on link and just follow it accordingly.

So we're rolling through 2 rounds tomorrow and 5 on Sunday.  I'll have tons of analysis and thoughts on the 49ers picks, although it may come later in the afternoon/evening.  Either way, I hope everybody enjoys the draft and has fun with the new site.  The automatic refresh of comments should lead to more discussion and hopefully things will be busy enough that I need to open a new thread or two.  Let's hope for some great things today!

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The irrational Cal fan in me is still hoping for DeSean Jackson. I know he doesn’t fit on this team and he’s small but my gut says that he would at least be fun to watch. The rational part of me is hoping that we go with the safe pick and Cherilus is still on the board.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 8:37 AM PDT   0 recs

Me

I’m just hoping for that embarrasing first round slip to some douche. Last year was my favorite. Suck it, Brady Quinn.

What highly ranked players in this years draft are particularly douchy?

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 9:00 AM PDT   0 recs

Agreed. That was incredibly delicious. I don’t think there is anyone that is slated to go in the Top 10 that I would call douchey enough to warrant that kind of embarassment.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 9:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

For me...

It was the look on Quinn’s stripper-esque girlfriend’s face that really made it pop for me.

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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 10:48 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

#2

Adam Schefter is reporting that St. Louis is taking Chris Long at #2. I think that has to mean ATL takes Glenn Dorsey then, unless New Orleans really comes up with a big offer to move up with ATL to get Dorsey.

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 9:03 AM PDT   0 recs

They could still take Ryan.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 9:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Sure

But I think they’d be better off with Dorsey at #3 then waiting until round 2 or trading into the end of round 1 and grabbing one from the Brohm/Henne/Flacco group. Not going to get an impact defender like Dorsey at that point in the draft, but you could grab a comparable QB then.

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 9:22 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I saw that

And suddenly I don’t understand why I thought that Long’s stock had dropped. How could it have possibly dropped? He’s huge, he’s polished, and he’s got all the daddy stuff.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 9:29 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Watch out for the Rams D!

Their building a pretty good young defensive front line with Long at DE and Carriker at DT.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 9:38 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

LaVelle Hawkins

DeSean Jackson would certainly be interesting, but I’d really like to see the 49ers grab Hawkins later.

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by Fooch on Apr 26, 2008 9:07 AM PDT   0 recs

Hawkins later

Could be a very nice pick. I have my reservations about Lavelle, but he did have a very nice year and he has a lot of things that the Niners should be looking for in a WR.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 9:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

have fun boys

wish I could stay, and who knows, maybe I’ll be able to hop and on provide some drunken analysis at some point!

Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners classic Unis

by wjackalope on Apr 26, 2008 9:54 AM PDT   0 recs

Yeah have fun boys

It’s going to be 91 in Manhattan Beach today and I’m walking down to the beach shortly and start checking out my own prospects but they’ll be wearing two pieces and not shoulder pads and helmets.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 10:23 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I really didn’t need the visual of Jake Long in a two piece….

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 10:24 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Gholston, though

He’s MONEY in a bikini.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 10:42 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

drinking much?

How early did you start drinking today?

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by Fooch on Apr 26, 2008 10:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yes

A little from column A, and a little B…

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 10:45 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

And no, also

Nonsense smokescreen answers aside, sadly no inebriation this morning. I actually have crap to do (who has crap to do on a Saturday morning?). Papers to fill out and junk. All this bikini talk is just a fun distraction from that mess.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 10:47 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, let's hope so

Your drunken ramblings were a highlight last year.

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 10:03 AM PDT   0 recs

Baltimore trying to move up to #2

Schefter said that Baltimore is trying to move up to #2 to grab Ryan, because Atlanta is set to take him at #3. Would be a blockbuster if it gets done….

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 10:41 AM PDT   0 recs

It would have to be

I don’t think the Rams have a lot of good reasons to move from #2 right now (or rather, they’re doing a great job of making it seem that way), so the Ravens would have to give them some very good reasons… I can only imagine the bounty it would take.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 10:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Mooch says

It would take 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounders, which doesn’t sound like enough to me. He mentioned including a player. If I was STL I’d ask for 1st and 2nd this year and #1 next year…that wouldn’t be too bad though. If STL moves to #8 Chris Long could land in their lap still.

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 10:54 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Michael Smith reporting Raiders to take McFadden

I guess they’re looking at a DMC/Fargas backfield rotation?

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by Fooch on Apr 26, 2008 10:51 AM PDT   0 recs

Schefter says

Barring a trade it’s JLong/CLong/Ryan/McFadden 1-4.

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 10:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

forgot about bush

They could have quite the running back combo there…Do they try and deal Fargas or just hope he can be productive in such a big time-share?

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by Fooch on Apr 26, 2008 10:57 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

rhodes?

I’d assume rhodes is out the door as well…hasn’t been much of anything for them.

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by Fooch on Apr 26, 2008 11:08 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I've always liked Fargas...

But I get the feeling they just don’t believe in him over there—it took them forever to give him a real shot at significant playing time. Not that you have to hate your running back in order to like DMC better.

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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 10:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

mortensen is reporting

That the Ravens are offering #8 and Suggs to the rams for #2. Pretty sweet deal if you ask me.

by enut21 on Apr 26, 2008 11:10 AM PDT   0 recs

suggs free agency

He’s only signed through this coming season I think…if the rams can resign him great, if not, such a good idea?

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by Fooch on Apr 26, 2008 11:11 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Suggs

They would have a year to work out a long term deal. Probably a better situation then giving a hge contract to a Rookie at 2.

by enut21 on Apr 26, 2008 11:13 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That would be ideal I would think

Suggs gives you the pass rusher at DE they want, still young enough to lock up long term, plus you land another quality guy at #8. Hard to pass up I’d think.

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 11:18 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

They could get Suggs and Ellis at #8 instead of Long or Dorsey at #2. I would take my chances that Suggs would sign a new deal.

by enut21 on Apr 26, 2008 11:22 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Sh!t

I got work.

Theoretically, what time will the 49ers pick so I know when to take my break?
3-ish?

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by jtoj on Apr 26, 2008 11:13 AM PDT   0 recs

The pick

28 picks taking between 8-10 minutes…around 250 minutes, probably closer to 4.

by enut21 on Apr 26, 2008 11:19 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah just realized my math was off

damn 60 minute hours, why can’t there be 100 minutes an hour.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 11:25 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

We haven't gone metric yet.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 11:26 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Kirk Herbstreit on Matt Ryan: “His intangibles are off the chart.”

Me: “If they are intangibles, how can there be a chart for them?”

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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 11:24 AM PDT   0 recs

Maybe he's talking about the tangibles chart

In which case, the intangibles would necessarily be off of it.

In which case, there would be no nood to SAY it… but that never stopped people from saying stuff before.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 11:25 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Mooch

Not a strong interviewer.

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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 11:38 AM PDT   0 recs

Keyshawn's an idiot

did anyone hear him say that replacing Vick in Atl is the same as replacing Marino in Miami.

plus, look at that suit!

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by Nosetackle Supreme on Apr 26, 2008 11:59 AM PDT   0 recs

Keyshawn is truly an idiot

For so many reasons. Last year during the draft was priceless. When he was still technically on the team, he talked Steve Smith’s ear off about how he was going to “take him under his wing.” An awkward conversation. Then he gets the boot the next day. Awesome.

by Call It The Throw on Apr 26, 2008 12:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

12:00

Here we go! First pick “made.”

Now it gets interesting!

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:04 PM PDT   0 recs

Will the Ravens move up here?

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 12:07 PM PDT   0 recs

I'll tell you in less than 4 minutes.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:09 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Pre-drafting draft picks

Am I alone in thinking that the league should ban the practice of deciding on a contract with college players before the draft? I know there’s nothing technically wrong with it, but it robs the draft of suspense and excitement. I think its going to get worse and worse every year too. Next year we might know the first five picks before the draft even begins.

by Call It The Throw on Apr 26, 2008 12:09 PM PDT   0 recs

It wasn’t really all that suspenseful last year either. I’m not really sure about banning it. I don’t really have a problem with it..

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 12:11 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

There’s that as well.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 12:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Plus

only the first pick is allowed to negotiate. The NFL said that the Rams weren’t allowed to talk with any players until the draft.

by good as gold on Apr 26, 2008 12:58 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

He doesn't have Howie Long's angles

There’s a resemblance there, but I don’t think Chris is going to be making any movies without those distinctive Long cut cheekbones.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:11 PM PDT   0 recs

ESPN must have had this ATL montage prepared for months.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:15 PM PDT   0 recs

Chris Long

Tom Jackson already has this guy going to Canton. That’s probably a bit premature to be penciling any of these guys into the Hall of Fame.

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by Nosetackle Supreme on Apr 26, 2008 12:15 PM PDT   0 recs

Ryan looks happy.

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 12:16 PM PDT   0 recs

Matt Ryan

TXT KNG!

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:18 PM PDT   0 recs

No surprise there

What else could they do with it?

-

Good news for me: This means the Troy Smith era in Baltimore is THAT much closer to being a reality!

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:19 PM PDT   0 recs

Yep

Dorsey+2nd tier QB is better than Ryan+2nd round defender

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by gatling on Apr 26, 2008 12:24 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It’s just so unbelievably striking that Matt Ryan is pretty much the Anti-Vick in every way I can think of.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:21 PM PDT   0 recs

Oakland

Nowhere near McFadden’s upcoming babies.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:27 PM PDT   0 recs

“Just a Southwest flight away”

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by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 26, 2008 12:28 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ding

Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding….

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 12:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You are now free to visit your baby mamas...

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by Josh from Hollywood on Apr 26, 2008 12:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

KC's pick is going to be interesting

I think they should trade down, they could probably still land Albert if they trade with NO.

by methodrampage on Apr 26, 2008 12:29 PM PDT   0 recs

Glenn Dorsey looks fairly nervous.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:34 PM PDT   0 recs

Oh

I guess I misread “happy the GM called” for nervous. Oops.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Cool

So far I’m 4/5, and the one I missed (Long) I got the position right (picked Gholston).

Looking good through 5!

Then again, I think a lot of people are looking good through 5 picks.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:37 PM PDT   0 recs

Who would the niners be taking at 7?

If we hadn’t flipped it to the New England Cheaters?

by Call It The Throw on Apr 26, 2008 12:38 PM PDT   0 recs

I think they'd be trading.

Honestly. They could use a few extra picks, and the team doesn’t really have a pressing top 10 need.

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by howtheyscored on Apr 26, 2008 12:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs