2008 NFL Draft Open Thread
After months of chatter, the time has finally come for the 49ers to hopefully take another step forward in their eventual return to some kind of glory. Over the past few months, the 49ers have been projected to take everybody from James Hardy and Early Doucet to Jerod Mayo, Gosder Cherilus, Quentin Groves and even Mario Manningham. So who will the 49ers end up snagging? Your guess is as good as mine. A perfect example of how crazy this whole prediction process can be is the fact that Matt Maiocco ran two columns, one on 7 players the 49ers would not draft and another list of guys who could end up as 49ers. The amusing part? Quentin Groves was on both lists. So really, the safest bet is to say they'll take everybody and nobody.
I think rather than say who I think the 49ers will draft, I'll put together a wish list of some options. With those first two picks, I've made it relatively clear I want some combination of OL, DL and/or OLB. I do not want a wide receiver. Drafting wide receivers in the first round is just a formula for disaster, so consider me skittish. Specific names you say? Well Gosder Cherilus is on my radar, although either MM or Barrows made an interesting point. A team wants an all-around good player and if a guy like Cherilus struggled at the college level when switched to left tackle, will that be an issue? While he'd be the 49ers right tackle, his natural position, it still makes you wonder.
Beyond Cherilus, I certainly would have no problem with Quentin Groves, and I must admit that Calais Campbell has climbed up my radar. A big ole defensive lineman would be nice, even with the addition of Justin Smith. Campbell would be able to learn from a true workhorse and provide us with some great depth. Jerod Mayo is a guy I could certainly envision alongside Patrick Willis, but we'll see where he ends up going. I was involved in a mock draft with NBC Sports and when Cherilus and Groves went early, I figured what the heck, and drafted Jerod Mayo.
Alright, so as to draft day, I unfortunately will be in and out throughout the day and will not be pulling the insane live-blogging option, thus this open thread. However, a few pointers now that we've got the new platform. I think FanShots are perfect for draft day responses. If we draft someone and you find a youtube video of him or a link to an interesting story about a guy, you can either post it as a comment here, or create a FanShot. For those still wondering how to do them, click "New FanShot." At the next screen, you need to click on video or link, depending on what you'll be doing. If it's a video, you just need to copy and paste the embed information into HTML embed. If you want to post a link, click on link and just follow it accordingly.
So we're rolling through 2 rounds tomorrow and 5 on Sunday. I'll have tons of analysis and thoughts on the 49ers picks, although it may come later in the afternoon/evening. Either way, I hope everybody enjoys the draft and has fun with the new site. The automatic refresh of comments should lead to more discussion and hopefully things will be busy enough that I need to open a new thread or two. Let's hope for some great things today!
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The irrational Cal fan in me is still hoping for DeSean Jackson. I know he doesn’t fit on this team and he’s small but my gut says that he would at least be fun to watch. The rational part of me is hoping that we go with the safe pick and Cherilus is still on the board.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on
Apr 26, 2008 8:37 AM PDT
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Me
I’m just hoping for that embarrasing first round slip to some douche. Last year was my favorite. Suck it, Brady Quinn.
What highly ranked players in this years draft are particularly douchy?
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Apr 26, 2008 9:00 AM PDT
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Agreed. That was incredibly delicious. I don’t think there is anyone that is slated to go in the Top 10 that I would call douchey enough to warrant that kind of embarassment.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on
Apr 26, 2008 9:05 AM PDT
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For me...
It was the look on Quinn’s stripper-esque girlfriend’s face that really made it pop for me.
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by Josh from Hollywood on
Apr 26, 2008 10:48 AM PDT
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#2
Adam Schefter is reporting that St. Louis is taking Chris Long at #2. I think that has to mean ATL takes Glenn Dorsey then, unless New Orleans really comes up with a big offer to move up with ATL to get Dorsey.
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by gatling on
Apr 26, 2008 9:03 AM PDT
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They could still take Ryan.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on
Apr 26, 2008 9:05 AM PDT
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Sure
But I think they’d be better off with Dorsey at #3 then waiting until round 2 or trading into the end of round 1 and grabbing one from the Brohm/Henne/Flacco group. Not going to get an impact defender like Dorsey at that point in the draft, but you could grab a comparable QB then.
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by gatling on
Apr 26, 2008 9:22 AM PDT
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I saw that
And suddenly I don’t understand why I thought that Long’s stock had dropped. How could it have possibly dropped? He’s huge, he’s polished, and he’s got all the daddy stuff.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 9:29 AM PDT
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Watch out for the Rams D!
Their building a pretty good young defensive front line with Long at DE and Carriker at DT.
by methodrampage on
Apr 26, 2008 9:38 AM PDT
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LaVelle Hawkins
DeSean Jackson would certainly be interesting, but I’d really like to see the 49ers grab Hawkins later.
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by Fooch on
Apr 26, 2008 9:07 AM PDT
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Hawkins later
Could be a very nice pick. I have my reservations about Lavelle, but he did have a very nice year and he has a lot of things that the Niners should be looking for in a WR.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 9:27 AM PDT
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have fun boys
wish I could stay, and who knows, maybe I’ll be able to hop and on provide some drunken analysis at some point!
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners classic Unis
by wjackalope on
Apr 26, 2008 9:54 AM PDT
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Yeah have fun boys
It’s going to be 91 in Manhattan Beach today and I’m walking down to the beach shortly and start checking out my own prospects but they’ll be wearing two pieces and not shoulder pads and helmets.
by methodrampage on
Apr 26, 2008 10:23 AM PDT
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I really didn’t need the visual of Jake Long in a two piece….
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 10:24 AM PDT
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Perhaps better than Glen Dorsey
by methodrampage on
Apr 26, 2008 10:39 AM PDT
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Gholston, though
He’s MONEY in a bikini.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 10:42 AM PDT
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drinking much?
How early did you start drinking today?
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by Fooch on
Apr 26, 2008 10:44 AM PDT
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Yes
A little from column A, and a little B…
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 10:45 AM PDT
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And no, also
Nonsense smokescreen answers aside, sadly no inebriation this morning. I actually have crap to do (who has crap to do on a Saturday morning?). Papers to fill out and junk. All this bikini talk is just a fun distraction from that mess.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 10:47 AM PDT
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Well, let's hope so
Your drunken ramblings were a highlight last year.
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by gatling on
Apr 26, 2008 10:03 AM PDT
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Baltimore trying to move up to #2
Schefter said that Baltimore is trying to move up to #2 to grab Ryan, because Atlanta is set to take him at #3. Would be a blockbuster if it gets done….
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by gatling on
Apr 26, 2008 10:41 AM PDT
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It would have to be
I don’t think the Rams have a lot of good reasons to move from #2 right now (or rather, they’re doing a great job of making it seem that way), so the Ravens would have to give them some very good reasons… I can only imagine the bounty it would take.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 10:44 AM PDT
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Mooch says
It would take 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounders, which doesn’t sound like enough to me. He mentioned including a player. If I was STL I’d ask for 1st and 2nd this year and #1 next year…that wouldn’t be too bad though. If STL moves to #8 Chris Long could land in their lap still.
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by gatling on
Apr 26, 2008 10:54 AM PDT
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Michael Smith reporting Raiders to take McFadden
I guess they’re looking at a DMC/Fargas backfield rotation?
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by Fooch on
Apr 26, 2008 10:51 AM PDT
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Schefter says
Barring a trade it’s JLong/CLong/Ryan/McFadden 1-4.
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by gatling on
Apr 26, 2008 10:55 AM PDT
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Word is Bush is looking pretty tight.
I’d expect a Bush/DMC tadem.
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Apr 26, 2008 10:55 AM PDT
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forgot about bush
They could have quite the running back combo there…Do they try and deal Fargas or just hope he can be productive in such a big time-share?
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by Fooch on
Apr 26, 2008 10:57 AM PDT
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They just resigned Fargas so I doubt they'll deal him.
But Lamont has to be released.
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Apr 26, 2008 11:01 AM PDT
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I've always liked Fargas...
But I get the feeling they just don’t believe in him over there—it took them forever to give him a real shot at significant playing time. Not that you have to hate your running back in order to like DMC better.
And the only thing Al Davis can still get hard for is speed.
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by Josh from Hollywood on
Apr 26, 2008 10:55 AM PDT
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mortensen is reporting
That the Ravens are offering #8 and Suggs to the rams for #2. Pretty sweet deal if you ask me.
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Apr 26, 2008 11:10 AM PDT
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suggs free agency
He’s only signed through this coming season I think…if the rams can resign him great, if not, such a good idea?
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by Fooch on
Apr 26, 2008 11:11 AM PDT
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Suggs
They would have a year to work out a long term deal. Probably a better situation then giving a hge contract to a Rookie at 2.
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Apr 26, 2008 11:13 AM PDT
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That would be ideal I would think
Suggs gives you the pass rusher at DE they want, still young enough to lock up long term, plus you land another quality guy at #8. Hard to pass up I’d think.
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by gatling on
Apr 26, 2008 11:18 AM PDT
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Sh!t
I got work.
Theoretically, what time will the 49ers pick so I know when to take my break?
3-ish?
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by jtoj on
Apr 26, 2008 11:13 AM PDT
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The pick
28 picks taking between 8-10 minutes…around 250 minutes, probably closer to 4.
by enut21 on
Apr 26, 2008 11:19 AM PDT
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yeah just realized my math was off
damn 60 minute hours, why can’t there be 100 minutes an hour.
by methodrampage on
Apr 26, 2008 11:25 AM PDT
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We haven't gone metric yet.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 11:26 AM PDT
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Kirk Herbstreit on Matt Ryan: “His intangibles are off the chart.”
Me: “If they are intangibles, how can there be a chart for them?”
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by Josh from Hollywood on
Apr 26, 2008 11:24 AM PDT
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Maybe he's talking about the tangibles chart
In which case, the intangibles would necessarily be off of it.
In which case, there would be no nood to SAY it… but that never stopped people from saying stuff before.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 11:25 AM PDT
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Mooch
Not a strong interviewer.
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by Josh from Hollywood on
Apr 26, 2008 11:38 AM PDT
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Keyshawn's an idiot
did anyone hear him say that replacing Vick in Atl is the same as replacing Marino in Miami.
plus, look at that suit!
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by Nosetackle Supreme on
Apr 26, 2008 11:59 AM PDT
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Keyshawn is truly an idiot
For so many reasons. Last year during the draft was priceless. When he was still technically on the team, he talked Steve Smith’s ear off about how he was going to “take him under his wing.” An awkward conversation. Then he gets the boot the next day. Awesome.
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Apr 26, 2008 12:07 PM PDT
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12:00
Here we go! First pick “made.”
Now it gets interesting!
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 12:04 PM PDT
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Will the Ravens move up here?
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Apr 26, 2008 12:07 PM PDT
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I'll tell you in less than 4 minutes.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 12:09 PM PDT
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Pre-drafting draft picks
Am I alone in thinking that the league should ban the practice of deciding on a contract with college players before the draft? I know there’s nothing technically wrong with it, but it robs the draft of suspense and excitement. I think its going to get worse and worse every year too. Next year we might know the first five picks before the draft even begins.
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Apr 26, 2008 12:09 PM PDT
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It wasn’t really all that suspenseful last year either. I’m not really sure about banning it. I don’t really have a problem with it..
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on
Apr 26, 2008 12:11 PM PDT
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Saved me 10 minutes
I’ll all for it.
by methodrampage on
Apr 26, 2008 12:12 PM PDT
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There’s that as well.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on
Apr 26, 2008 12:13 PM PDT
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Plus
only the first pick is allowed to negotiate. The NFL said that the Rams weren’t allowed to talk with any players until the draft.
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Apr 26, 2008 12:58 PM PDT
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He doesn't have Howie Long's angles
There’s a resemblance there, but I don’t think Chris is going to be making any movies without those distinctive Long cut cheekbones.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 12:11 PM PDT
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ESPN must have had this ATL montage prepared for months.
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Apr 26, 2008 12:15 PM PDT
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Chris Long
Tom Jackson already has this guy going to Canton. That’s probably a bit premature to be penciling any of these guys into the Hall of Fame.
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Apr 26, 2008 12:15 PM PDT
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Ryan looks happy.
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Apr 26, 2008 12:16 PM PDT
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Matt Ryan
TXT KNG!
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Apr 26, 2008 12:18 PM PDT
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No surprise there
What else could they do with it?
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Good news for me: This means the Troy Smith era in Baltimore is THAT much closer to being a reality!
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 12:19 PM PDT
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It’s just so unbelievably striking that Matt Ryan is pretty much the Anti-Vick in every way I can think of.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 12:21 PM PDT
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Oakland
Nowhere near McFadden’s upcoming babies.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 12:27 PM PDT
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“Just a Southwest flight away”
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on
Apr 26, 2008 12:28 PM PDT
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You are now free to visit your baby mamas...
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by Josh from Hollywood on
Apr 26, 2008 12:33 PM PDT
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KC's pick is going to be interesting
I think they should trade down, they could probably still land Albert if they trade with NO.
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Apr 26, 2008 12:29 PM PDT
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based on dorsey's tears
looks like he’s a chief
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Apr 26, 2008 12:35 PM PDT
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Glenn Dorsey looks fairly nervous.
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Apr 26, 2008 12:34 PM PDT
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Oh
I guess I misread “happy the GM called” for nervous. Oops.
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Apr 26, 2008 12:37 PM PDT
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Cool
So far I’m 4/5, and the one I missed (Long) I got the position right (picked Gholston).
Looking good through 5!
Then again, I think a lot of people are looking good through 5 picks.
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Apr 26, 2008 12:37 PM PDT
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Who would the niners be taking at 7?
If we hadn’t flipped it to the New England Cheaters?
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Apr 26, 2008 12:38 PM PDT
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I think they'd be trading.
Honestly. They could use a few extra picks, and the team doesn’t really have a pressing top 10 need.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 12:40 PM PDT
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Gholston if he gets past the Jets
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Apr 26, 2008 12:41 PM PDT
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So they'd be trading, then?
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 12:44 PM PDT
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Did someone just hand Keith Rivers a Chiefs hat?
That was strange…
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Apr 26, 2008 12:40 PM PDT
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Blame Merton Hanks...
He’s the hat guy.
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Apr 26, 2008 12:41 PM PDT
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Somebody please punch that 15 year old Packer fan up there for me.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 12:42 PM PDT
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STOP POINTING AT YOUR JERSEY
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 12:43 PM PDT
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New England trading the pick as well.
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Apr 26, 2008 12:53 PM PDT
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Kipers a douche
Almost Don Banks level.
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Apr 26, 2008 1:00 PM PDT
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Were the mock drafts posted by wjackalope on April 24th the final ones by Mel Kiper and Mike Mayock?
If so, they’re 0 for 8 now.
H-A-N-A-H-A-N. Hanahan.
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Apr 26, 2008 1:01 PM PDT
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Next year for the draft constest we should pick live
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Apr 26, 2008 1:02 PM PDT
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That would be pretty tight.
But then if u wait a little bit, u can wait till u see glenn dorsey, or say vernon davis, start crying before he gets picked
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Apr 26, 2008 1:05 PM PDT
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That works much better with trades.
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Apr 26, 2008 1:06 PM PDT
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Mayock
Guys who say “tailback” are so quaint.
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Apr 26, 2008 1:08 PM PDT
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NO
New Orleans picking Ellis was the first step in my Mock draft falling apart. I had them taking a CB in the first round, and now Baltimore can’t take Ellis like I guessed they would…
This is only the beginning.
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Apr 26, 2008 1:08 PM PDT
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What did Baltimore get?
I’m away from TV and stuck with the draft-tracker on ESPN right now, it doesn’t list trade compensation…
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Apr 26, 2008 1:09 PM PDT
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1st rounder, 2 3rd rounders and a 5th
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Apr 26, 2008 1:10 PM PDT
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Oh, it was a 4th? WOW
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Apr 26, 2008 1:12 PM PDT
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Wow
two 3rd rounders on top of the first rounder? Very big.
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Apr 26, 2008 1:11 PM PDT
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Huge haul. I don’t know if it’s worth it to pick Harvey there.
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Apr 26, 2008 1:09 PM PDT
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Thank you Cinci
With the nice and predictable pick.
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Apr 26, 2008 1:12 PM PDT
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So if you're NE
Do you trade this pick too?
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Apr 26, 2008 1:12 PM PDT
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If they’re targeting a CB, then yes.
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Apr 26, 2008 1:13 PM PDT
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You're kidding?!
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Apr 26, 2008 1:14 PM PDT
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Jerod Mayo for the Patriots. Very interesting.
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Apr 26, 2008 1:14 PM PDT
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Makes sense I had them taking Rivers
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Apr 26, 2008 1:14 PM PDT
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Yeah
Mayo can play inside or outside, which fits the patriots style. thats what Mel said anyway. lol
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Apr 26, 2008 1:16 PM PDT
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I'm surprised
It still feels like a reach at 10. I wonder if there were just no buyers for that 10 pick, because I would think if they traded out they still could have had Mayo at a lower pick.
Then again, what the hell do I know?
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Apr 26, 2008 1:16 PM PDT
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Yea I don’t disagree that the pick fits for the Patriots but it feels like a reach at number 10.
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Apr 26, 2008 1:17 PM PDT
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Some people have Mayo ranked pretty high
He’s the top ILB
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Apr 26, 2008 1:17 PM PDT
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Definitly
We kept hearing how he was going to fall to us at 29
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Apr 26, 2008 1:18 PM PDT
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Great for Mayo, though
If I were him, I’d be looking to get PAID now.
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Apr 26, 2008 1:18 PM PDT
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Pretty much all Defensive guys so far with the exception of Ryan and McFad
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Apr 26, 2008 1:18 PM PDT
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Oh yes, THE LONG. Forgot about him somehow.
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Boomer seriously?
“Last years first was the longest and this years could be the shortest.”
Obviously, teams only have 10 mins to pick and not 15.
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Scoring question
HTS, I’m curious about a team like the Pats that traded back. I had them taking Rivers at #7, they took at him at #10. In the rules, Fooch said that it was 2 points for the right guy at that right spot, and his example is DeSean Jackson to Buffalo. Does that mean strictly team and player match for 2 points, or is it player/team/pick# for 2 points?
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Yeah, scratch that part.
I meant to put in Mayo there in my question. But the question is the same. Player/team for 2 points or player/team/pick#? Mayo should net me 1 point I guess, but I’m curious about the other part.
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Hmmm
My understanding was right team, right player, 2 points. Right team, right position, wrong player, 1 point. Right team, right side of the ball, .5 point.
Let me go back and make sure. That’s how I had it in my head.
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Yeah
It’s just confusing language. As long as the Pats stayed in the first round, your prediction goes toward that pick. If a team gets an extra pick in the first round, your prediction goes toward their earlier choice that round (nobody has done it yet, so my making that rule explicit now does nobody any advantage at this point). If a team trades out of the first round, all the predictions for that team get scratched.
You would get 2 points if you pick Mayo to go to the Pats at #7 and they took him at #10 because of a trade.
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Cool
then I just got 2 points for Albert to KC. Good to know.
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Oh wow
I didn’t realize you included trades in your mock draft. We weren’t counting on that kind of dedication, The way I would rule it this second is that for your first KC pick you predicted Albert, but with KC’s actual first pick, they took Dorsey. So I don’t see that as any points, actually.
If that doesn’t seem fair, let me know why and I’ll shoot Fooch an e-mail for an executive decision.
There’s been mock draft activity we weren’t counting on when we made the rules up (for instance, predictig trades, or predicting by player order rather than team order), and we’re working out the kinks as they come up.
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Well
I did two versions mostly for fun anyway. I don’t want the front page post to be honest because I have no idea what I’d write about if I did win, but I do think that methodrampage and I should get some credit for Albert to KC, not necessarily 2 points but something.
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That sounds reasonable
I think that sounds perfectly agreeable. I think 1 point is probably fair considering you did pick an exact player.
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Sounds fair to me
I really like the suggestion of the interactive live mock for next year. That could be really cool.
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That's how it's written
It’s trades that I’m asking about. The only mention of them is if a team trades out of the 1st round completely. I’m just curious if trading back changes anything or not. Say you had Mayo to the Pats at #7 originally, but he goes to them at #10. Does that still get you 2 points, or is it different since it’s at pick #10 instead of #7?
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Sorry, that's the question I was trying to answer.
The answer is yes, you still get 2 points. It was just worded funny in the rules.
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So I get two points for Albert here?
I had them taking him with their first pick but they ended up taking him with their second.
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As I said to gatling, I would rule against it right now because you predicted Albert as KC’s first pick of the round, and they took Dorsey with their actual first pick. You picked Merling for their second pick, and they actually took Albert with their second pick. Their third pick, if they don’t trade it, won’t count for anybody.
If you don’t like that, I’m willing to defer to Fooch. We’ve had some weird scoring stuff going on with some non-conformist mocks, so we’re adjusting as problems crop up.
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ALSO
gatling made a good point that you should get some compensation for picking an exact player, regardless of whether or not the order was there. I’m leaning strongly toward 1 point, and if I don’t get any objections that’s how I’ll score this thing any time it crops up.
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With the 14th pick, the Stoolies select...
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They’re going to be asshats and take forever.
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Apr 26, 2008 1:34 PM PDT
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“They’re going to be asshats”
I believe that’s called “staying the course”.
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touche
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Keyshawn honoring Yassir Arafat with his shirt today?
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Kiper likes Rogers-Cromartie’s “heighth”. I wonder how he feels about his “weighth”.
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Or his lengthth.
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CHERILOUS IS OFF THE BOARD!!!!
Lions took the guy
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OH MAN!!
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This stinks
Make me proud again Hen
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Apr 26, 2008 1:59 PM PDT
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OMGWTFBBQ!
GOSDER CHERILUS CONSOLATION VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNHLywCfnHI
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No way you can be bummed after seeing that.
Look, even Joe Flacco’s smiling.
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Ughh
So far this draft is not going the 49ers way. Options for trading down are dwindling and the tackles are getting taken sooner than I thought.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
THE TROY SMITH ERA IN BALTIMORE IS OVER!!!
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Still, it was pretty glorious while it lasted.
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Oh
It was AWESOME.
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Apr 26, 2008 2:12 PM PDT
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Weird...
I wonder who Baltimore thought they had to beat out to grab Flacco so high. Not Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, Washington, Dallas, or Tennessee… I’d think….
Was Seattle on the rampage???
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Oh wait.
Scratch that. That’s the spot they traded DOWN into.
I’m stupid.
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No, you were right the first time
they traded to 26 first, then back to 18. I’m guessing that they were concerned about a team like Miami, NYJ, or somebody else trading up in the mid 20’s for Flacco. They probably gave up #26 and one of the 3rds they got when they moved down to start with
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As a matter of fact...
I have a close friend who has contacts with the Dolphins, who told me the team loved Flacco.
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I should add...
Parcells supposedly isn’t a big fan of Beck.
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Any word on MIA and Henne?
He was the guy I had them pegged for if they move back into round 1.
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I don't know
His big tip was, “Don’t be surprised if they trade up into the end of the 1st round to take Flacco if they don’t think he’ll make it out of the 1st.”
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Ah wow
This draft-tracker is killing me.
Either way, I guess the Ravens were pretty desperate to get their guy. I would have thought any of the second round QBs would have been about as acceptable as Flacco. But I guess I would have thought wrong.
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Desean Jackson is falling into the 2nd
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Wow
TB, Ten, and Was all still have to pick (and us, I guess….). Those are the teams I still have pegged as looking for WR. But with every single receiver still on the board, his chances are NOT good to go in this first round.
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WAS has to be all chubby about Thomas
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Apr 26, 2008 2:23 PM PDT
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Yea, the satellite video made it look like Washington’s pick.
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Apr 26, 2008 2:24 PM PDT
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Trading the pick
No word where yet
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by gatling on
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Atlanta
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Jesus.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 2:29 PM PDT
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I guess the league got that memo about WR in the first round....
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Apr 26, 2008 2:29 PM PDT
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NICE call.
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Apr 26, 2008 3:49 PM PDT
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damn
come on—pulling for merling or balmer at this point….
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Apr 26, 2008 2:19 PM PDT
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would we be happy if Dan Conner out of PSU fell to us and we took him?
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That'd be fine by me
With the Niners taking Groves or Crable in the 2nd
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Apr 26, 2008 2:26 PM PDT
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TB goes Talib!
Another team I had looking for a first round receiver staying the hell away.
Geez.
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Sam Baker for Atlanta
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The Falcons have officially blown this draft
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Apr 26, 2008 2:30 PM PDT
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Dorsey & Brohm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan & Baker
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Apr 26, 2008 2:31 PM PDT
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I think you're still missing a few >'s
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So much for the niners gettin a OL in the 1st or 2nd
No way they reach for one now.
Maybe Groves in the first and desean jackson in the 2nd
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what are we looking at now?
can we agree to take Sweed if he falls to us
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Apr 26, 2008 2:42 PM PDT
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It seems like we’ll have our choice of WRs if we so choose to take one.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on
Apr 26, 2008 2:43 PM PDT
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Later, too.
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Apr 26, 2008 2:46 PM PDT
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I like Connor
Then Groves or Crable and the D is set.
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Apr 26, 2008 2:45 PM PDT
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Where do I sign up?
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Apr 26, 2008 2:47 PM PDT
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Completely agree
Lawson/Connor/Willis/Groves would be a SICK LB corps
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Apr 26, 2008 2:47 PM PDT
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Steeleresque!
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Apr 26, 2008 2:48 PM PDT
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I agree with this. If I’m thinking rationally.
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by AndYourBirdCanSing on
Apr 26, 2008 2:47 PM PDT
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mendenhall to pittsburg...
whats wrong with willy parker?
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Really?
A little weird. You think they’d have more pressing needs.
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Apr 26, 2008 2:48 PM PDT
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I think they were looking OT but the run killed that idea
I kind of saw this coming as I heard they were looking at RB in this draft and Mendenhall is a pretty goo value here.
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Apr 26, 2008 2:50 PM PDT
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Biggest need
was OL, but with the run on them, no need to reach. A WR might have been good, but hard to argue with Mendenhall this late.
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Congratulations
To everybody who had DAL tal=king Felix Jones.
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by howtheyscored on
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I even got the specific selection (#22) right
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Absolutely.
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To be fair
Chris Henry was an abortion of a pick in the 3rd last year.
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“Abortion” is such a strong word. Can we go with “Miscarriage”?
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I apologize
A couple of Pacificos and the sensitivity flies out the window.
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We will let it slide
since you’re drinking decent beer. If you had said PBR or something, forget it.
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$20 a case at Costco
I try to keep 30 in the fridge at all times
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You’re better prepared for this draft than the Falcons!
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Apr 26, 2008 3:08 PM PDT
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We should probably
send Falcon fans over to method’s house to have a couple of those beers to ease the pain.
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WHAT?
Is going on here?
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It's early but,
Johnson is a good return guy, plus he’s a very good receiver. White and Henry are smashmouth guys, Johnson is an extremely fast guy. Not what I’d have done, but I think it works out.
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wow
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.
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Dallas moves up one spot to take....
Mike Jenkins
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It was 4 spots wasn’t it?
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Apr 26, 2008 3:01 PM PDT
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3 actually.
Had the two Texas teams confused.
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We're in the hole!
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Apr 26, 2008 3:06 PM PDT
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That's what she said!
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Apr 26, 2008 3:07 PM PDT
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It's not a Bocock joke, but it'll do
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Apr 26, 2008 3:10 PM PDT
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Holy crap
I can’t believe I never saw a “Bocock’s in the hole” joke….
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There goes another tackle
Texans take Duane Brown
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So who's it going to be for the 49ers?
And who would have thought we would have our pick of any WR we want?
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We're on deck!
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I'm not sure how to turn that properly...
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Apr 26, 2008 3:12 PM PDT
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Think of Bocock and it’ll come.
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No, I think you have to actually touch it.
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I hope it takes more than that!
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Whatever you do, do not touch it
And don’t look straight into it’s eye.
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Man
This venting commercial sucks shit.
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This Underarmor commercial is starting to get on my nerves as well.
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Trade back
Thats what we need to do, I don’t see great value for anyone at #29.
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This is the commercial I got my sig from.
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I miss my NinersNation signature....
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Apr 26, 2008 3:15 PM PDT
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+1
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Me
I just regret that we’ll never see Grant’s “Cruella Loville” anymore.
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So
Does this mean USC wins the first round?
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Tick, tick, tick...
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on
Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM PDT
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That's not a fair clip to show!
Longshore would have fumbled that ball even if this guy hadn’t run into him!
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM PDT
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Pick was in quick!
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on
Apr 26, 2008 3:18 PM PDT
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Wow
That was fast.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 3:18 PM PDT
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THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID!!!
Make me proud again Hen
by AndYourBirdCanSing on
Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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I told you not to touch it!
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on
Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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We get any WR we want!!
Come on Jackson!!!!
We still believe!!
by R Dizzle on
Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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I love Chris Berman.
Like days of yore. He’s such a fanboy.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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Balmer
Make me proud again Hen
by AndYourBirdCanSing on
Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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They're saying NT.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 3:20 PM PDT
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Kiper says NT
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on
Apr 26, 2008 3:20 PM PDT
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My bad
"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK
by Josh from Hollywood on
Apr 26, 2008 3:22 PM PDT
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Berman said NT
And my draft board says he plays DT, so that could likely translate to NT with his size.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 3:28 PM PDT
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only 308lbs
Your 3-4 DE typically run 290-300lbs. I think the Niners are trying to run a hybrid 3-4/4-3
by methodrampage on
Apr 26, 2008 3:30 PM PDT
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Hmmm
Nice point.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 3:31 PM PDT
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Oh.
I don’t mind that. I really don’t.
First impression, but that’s how I feel right now.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 3:20 PM PDT
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Oh come on
If you were going WR, with EVERY WR still on the board, Jackson would have been an awful pick.
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by howtheyscored on
Apr 26, 2008 3:21 PM PDT
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Agreed, and now it’s a very short pick for the 2nd round pick.
Make me proud again Hen
by AndYourBirdCanSing on
Apr 26, 2008 3:22 PM PDT
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