So what exactly is the "Ted" linebacker?
I know many readers of Niners Nation know what the "Ted" linebacker is and how that position fits into the 49ers 3-4 scheme. While I have a general understanding of the 3-4 and the "Ted," I have still been quite curious about the position. One of the primary position battles in training camp will be for the "Ted" linebacker position, so it would seem useful to get some information on the position. We know the player lines up next to tackling machine Patrick Willis and was manned by Derek Smith last year.
As I lack truly insightful knowledge into some of the intricacies of the position, I decided to do a little research and get some help filling the in the holes. For that, I turned to hoosierteacher, an author over at Mile High Report. For those that don't know, hoosierteacher writes a weekly column titled "MHR University." Each week he educates folks on the intricacies of football. He's covered everything from Nickel formations, to the different types of 3-4 defenses to zone blocking. Hoosierteacher has worked as an assistant coach in football at the high school level and attended a variety of coaching seminars and has some good contacts in the industry.
So I shot him an email and he provided some of his own insight into the "Ted" position. If any pertinent questions or comments arise I'll be happy to pass them along if he doesn't catch them here. This came via email so the language is a little more casual at times.
First, you are correct on the assessment of your TED position. If you look at my article on the 3-4 systems run in the NFL, the 49ers run the "Fairbanks-Bullough" system, the same classic two-gap system run by NE with only minor tweaks. Your TED certainly is tasked with clearing the way for the
You'll also have to forgive me for using the term "WILL". The extent of my experience is HS ball (I coordinated defenses for several years) and some very nice seminars I was sent to. I have a (nerdy) passion for researching football systems, particularly defensive and historical. I've learned that some terms I use are correct, some are correct depending on the region or what level of the game is discussed in, and sometimes I am flat out wrong. I've seen the term used both ways, but while researching my thoughts on the 49ers I saw the term TED is by far more common when referencing the Niners, so I will use your term.
The keys to the TED for your system are as follows (in my opinion):
1) The player should not be expensive.
That may sound like a strange qualifier, but for the TED position as run in the Fairbanks-Bullough it is true. The player in this position is not the "sexy" LB that fills the other two roles. Your OLBs need to generate a pass rush (they had a rough time last year, but management seems to believe the same personnel can rebound). The
Oddly enough, I doubt the
2. He has to be physical (tough).
The TED is clearing the way to the QB, and he is doing this in the toughest environment of all; the center of the trench. He not only faces the centers and guards, but the FB and maybe a RB. If the DL can clear a path to the backfield of the offense, it is not unreasonable to assume that the TED may have to shoulder aside an OL being tied up on the line, plus block another offensive pass blocker. It is a very physical position.
3. Despite not being a sexy role, the TED actually has to be pretty smart.
It is one thing to go after the QB (like the
The TED can (of course) be used in several roles within the same system, but blocking to the QB is the role your TED would most be graded on. The role also adjusts based on the type of offensive system you are playing against, as well as match-ups in terms of players. Considerations include how an opposing team uses backs as tackles, tendencies for misdirection, zone blocking, types and frequency of play action, tendencies of the opposing QB under pressure, and whether a team is prone to screen passes.
As far as who might replace Smith, you and your readers have a much better handle on that than me. I really like Ulbrich, but I have a bias for fast LBs too. He's not really all that big, and might be misused as a TED in your system. He did well late last year stepping in, so I could be wrong. I just don't know if he could go the season without getting hurt. I don't know enough about your depth chart beyond that.
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Re. So what exactly is the "Ted" linebacker?
Nice work, and very interesting. That guy blew my mind with all that info.
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by jfainsf49 on May 13, 2008 8:47 AM PDT 0 recs
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This post was a great idea, Fooch. You’re an educator of the masses.
by Nineraguan on May 13, 2008 10:35 AM PDT 0 recs
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One other interesting feature that this leads to: On the right side of the screen you’ll see a list of all the recent fanposts, but just above it there’s a link to “Related Stories on Niners Nation,” and it has a link to the preview of the Ted position battle. I think that’s a pretty useful feature (you’d think I was trying to convince you guys to buy a set of steak knives the way i’m pushing the features!)
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by Fooch on May 13, 2008 10:54 AM PDT 0 recs
Interesting that he mentions the MIKE in our system (Willis) probably doesn’t direct traffic on defense. I think last season a lot of us were really impressed with Willis (well, how could you NOT be) not only for the quality of his play, but also for his presense of mind being able to call plays on defense at such an early stage in his career. It would make a lot of sense to me if the Safety was actually calling the plays like hoosierteacher speculates, because that would have given Willis more room to focus on just playing.
And I’m not trying to say this as a knock to Willis, like “Oh, he didn’t do what we thought he did!” The guy is freaking amazing. I just thought it was an elightening insight into our defense and our handling of our Defensive Rookie of the History of Football Past and Future.
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by howtheyscored on May 13, 2008 11:50 AM PDT 0 recs
Is MIKE gonna wear the mike?
I also thought that Willis was calling the shots last year. I think it was sfgfan that pointed out otherwise. But don’t quote me on that.
When the NFL announced that a defender could wear a Mike, I pretty much assumed it would be Willis that would wear the mike, as I had forgotten about what sfgfan had said.
Also, I’m not sure if you guys are forgetting or what, but didn’t Nolan say that Roman would wear the mike. Or maybe, Roman wearing the mike was just a tentative plan for early workouts?
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by jfainsf49 on
May 13, 2008 12:31 PM PDT
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I'm pretty sure Roman had the ear piece
but I’m not sure if that is the plan for the season. it sounded like it was IIRC
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by wjackalope on
May 13, 2008 12:40 PM PDT
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I don't remember for sure...
... but I think Maiocco or Barrows mentioned (very briefly) somewhere that Roman, Jeff Ulbrich, or Derek Smith called the majority of the plays last season, depending on who was on the field. Unless Roman loses out to Goldson or Smith at FS, which is highly unlikely, he’ll probably be wearing the headset, as he is one of the only players on the field for almost all the defensive snaps (the others being Clements and Willis).
Nolan made a comment a while back saying that the reason they don’t blitz Willis is because they like to put him in a position where he could just read and react. If you were to put a headset in his helmet where he’s listening to the coaches jabber and stammer around, I’d imagine that could hinder his “freedom”. I say let Roman wear it and let Willis fly.
by sfgfan on
May 13, 2008 3:17 PM PDT
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why not lewis?
he seems to be a smart player with a more firm handle on his starting job. Or does the FS position really make more sense?
by sam23 on
May 13, 2008 5:19 PM PDT
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Lewis
Lewis, while a starter in the base defense and most of their packages, is often (I think) taken out on passing downs. He’s not viewed as an “every down” player in the team’s eyes, I think, as he’s pretty weak in coverage. If Roman lands as the starter, he’ll be in on every defensive play, much like Willis and Clements.
by sfgfan on
May 14, 2008 9:01 AM PDT
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gotcha
thanks! sounds like we could really use a stud safety actually.
by sam23 on
May 14, 2008 11:53 AM PDT
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Safety
The 49ers can definitely use an Ed Reed or Sean Taylor-like free safety. I don’t think they’ve had anything remotely resembling a “ball-hawk” since Merton Hanks, if you could even call him that.
by sfgfan on
May 14, 2008 12:31 PM PDT
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Yeah...
He was more like a ball chicken…
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by JRPhillips on
May 14, 2008 3:14 PM PDT
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Really off topic here
Just out of curiosity, how is spiking the ball(to stop the clock)not a penalty for intentional grounding?
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by jfainsf49 on May 13, 2008 1:35 PM PDT 0 recs
nevermind
I think I found the answer
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by jfainsf49 on
May 13, 2008 2:01 PM PDT
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I believe it's officially called "Clocking the ball"
It’s like an exception to the rule. The QB has to do it immediately after recieving the snap. If he takes a one or two yard drop and then spikes the ball it’s intentional grounding.
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by methodrampage on
May 13, 2008 2:44 PM PDT
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thanks for the knowledge
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by jfainsf49 on
May 13, 2008 2:55 PM PDT
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Or I maybe be wrong
I believe this is the actual definition of intentional grounding
“Intentional grounding will be called when a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage due to pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion.”
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by methodrampage on
May 13, 2008 3:06 PM PDT
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Well not sure if this is the actual answer
but another guy over at foxsports pointed out that the qb must be facing a sack for it to be considered intentional grounding…this was his “layman’s” observation…so there may be something else to explain it…but what he said sounds reasonable…and it’s something that I obviously overlooked.
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by jfainsf49 on
May 13, 2008 2:51 PM PDT
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The answer: I don't know what this stands for.
The question: What does TED stand for? And while we’re at it… What does MIKE stand for?
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by JRPhillips on May 13, 2008 2:04 PM PDT 0 recs
MIKE = Middle LB
Typically your 4-3 middle linebacker is called your MIKE LB. The 3-4 retains the MIKE nomenclature for it’s “attacking” ILB, while the other ILB is called the TED LB. I believe TED LB is named after Ted Hendricks (please don’t treat this like a fact as I don’t have any difinative proof on it) and I’ve also heard the TED lining up on the TE side of the offense.
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by methodrampage on
May 13, 2008 2:41 PM PDT
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I could be wrong
but did the Mike not come from our very own Singletary? I feel like I read that somewhere.
by sam23 on
May 13, 2008 5:20 PM PDT
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Sam, Ted, Mike, and Will
In a 4-3, the three linebackers are Sam, Mike, and Will. They are the Strong side (sam side as the tight end), Middle, and Weak side (side opposite the tight end) linebackers, respectively.
I am not sure, but I believe “Ted” is used because it describes the middle linebacker on the Tight EnD in the 3-4.
by Nineraguan on May 13, 2008 2:38 PM PDT 0 recs
Great post Fooch
couldnt help but think all these descriptions of the TED sound much more like Ulbrich (or the still unsigned Spikes) than any of the other guys competing for the job.
by sam23 on May 13, 2008 5:23 PM PDT 0 recs
Spikes
If I recall correctly, he’s never really been regarded as someone who likes to do trench work, which is kind of what the “Ted” linebacker does. He’s definitely got decent size and plenty of experience to qualify him in terms of “brains.” Does he play physical though?
by sfgfan on
May 14, 2008 9:03 AM PDT
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I've always
thought of him as a physical player. Even though he’s used to being the “sexy” LB, I would think that at his age he’d be willing to accept a lesser role. Maybe thats all misconception though.
by sam23 on
May 14, 2008 11:52 AM PDT
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Lesser role.
Well, part of the delay on his decision is that he doesn’t want to be a backup. I don’t know, but I’d say the “Ted” on a flexible (and somewhat dynamic) defense like San Francisco’s is sort of a backup position. It’s the first LB to leave the field when an extra DB is needed, I’d say.
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