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49ers All-Time Cornerback #1

First off, I've decided to go with a 3-4 defense.  Instead of picking a "nose tackle," we'll vote on one defensive tackle and then we'll have a vote on a second defensive tackle.  So kind of going with my 4-4 idea, but not 100%.

Second off, I'm done with finals and done with year 1 of law school.  Suffice to say, I could not be happier.  I'm working on some internship options for the summer, but without studying taking up time I'm hoping to be extra active over the summer.  It'll be a slow time until training camp starts, but we've got some cool stuff coming down the pipeline.

So now, for today we're going to open up the polls for the first cornerback on our all-time team.  The 49ers have had some impressive defensive backs in their history, from Hall of Famer Jimmy Johnson to current stalwart Nate Clements.  In my research, I noticed that prior to the more well known 80s and 90s 49ers, many of the great corners in franchise history stretch back to the beginning of the franchise.  Also, I know that one issue to come up has involved Deion Sanders.  He only spent one season in San Francisco but he was the Defensive Player of the Year and that may have been his greatest year, in a career filled with amazing numbers.  The way I've decided to handle it is while I will NOT be including him in this vote, he will be included in the vote for the #2 cornerback.  That way he can get recognition, but it's my own personal belief that the overall  career with the 49ers has more value and thus he should be penalized in some way.  People may disagree, but I think it's a fair compromise.  On to the nominees.  There are some that could have probably been included, but I think we have a solid list of guys here.  And like I said, Prime Time will be added for the #2 list.

Jimmy Johnson (1961-1976): Aside from one year as a wide receiver, Johnson played in five Pro Bowls over his 16 year Hall-of-Fame career and is #2 to Ronnie Lott in interceptions.  Johnson is recognized as one of the best man-to-man defenders in NFL history and definitely was the precursor to Deion and Champ in shutting down his entire side of the field.  He spent time at safety and wide receiver, but is primarily remembered as a cornerback, and a great one at that.

Kermit Alexander (1963-1969): Alexander spent seven seasons with the 49ers amassing an impressive 36 interceptions, a rate of just over 5 per season.  As impressive is that he came out of college as a running back and was the outstanding offensive player at the Hula Bowl.  Mix in some quality kick and punt return stats and you've got one heck of a player.  Also, just noticed he recovered 23 fumbles in his career.  Nothing on Johnson for that, but Alexander is the franchise leader there by a safe margin.

Lowell Wagner (1949-1953): Wagner was with the team in its last year in the All-America Football Conference and then the first four years in the NFL.  Although the team struggled a bit early on, Wagner was a highlight, snagging 31 interceptions in just five full season with the team.

Eric Wright (1981-1990): No vote would be complete without Wright.  While not a ball hawk like some of these other guys (7 of his 18 career INTs came in a single season), Wright was a very solid corner who is on the short list of 4-time Super Bowl winners.

Don Griffin (1986-1993): I'll be honest, I don't remember a whole heck of a lot about Griffin.  He is 9th on the 49ers INT list and was the successor to Eric Wright at right CB, and a fitting successor he ended up being.

Poll
Who should be our all time #1 CB?
Jimmy Johnson
169 votes
Kermit Alexander
8 votes
Lowell Wagner
1 votes
Eric Wright
118 votes
Don Griffin
14 votes

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Did people forget about eric Davis

Foreshame!

Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.

by bayboy on May 15, 2008 6:12 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Davis

I thought long and hard (that’s what she said) about that and in the end decided on Griffin over him. I suppose I could have gone with 6 nominees, but had to cut it off somewhere.

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by Fooch on May 15, 2008 6:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, that's what my Rabbi said.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on May 16, 2008 2:13 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's what my proctologist said...

I know that doesn’t even make sense to me.

"To know clearly what pleases the world is but a brief dream." --Machiavelli

by jfainsf49 on May 16, 2008 6:25 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i liked davis too, and look no current votes for griffin right now.

by J2daZ on May 16, 2008 3:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good call on Deion, if you ask me

As for those other guys, heck, I hadn’t even heard of half of them.

Thanks for broadening my horizons.

"To know clearly what pleases the world is but a brief dream." --Machiavelli

by jfainsf49 on May 16, 2008 6:44 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where's Ronnie Lott?

I know he eventually moved over to safety and I’m sure he’ll be #1 there, but Lott started out at the corner, and when we had one of our best backfields ever was he and Wright on the corners and Carlton Williamson and Dwight Hicks as the safeties.

by NinerLoeffl on May 16, 2008 9:38 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good point

It was mostly a judgment call on my part and it may reflect my own biases.

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by Fooch on May 16, 2008 10:32 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CB vs FS

I think that while Lott did indeed play corner and played it well, he’s more widely known as one of the greatest safeties that ever played the game. Because of that, I think it was wise to hold off putting him on a ballot until the voting gets to the safeties, as it makes little sense to vote one player into multiple positions, and even littler sense to vote him into a position that he didn’t spend the majority of his career in.

by sfgfan on May 16, 2008 10:43 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Make some sense...

but which position will have a better player left out depending on where Lott is slotted? Johnson/Wright at CB or Hanks/Hicks at FS? I agree that more people probably recognize Lott as a safety, but how much of that is due to the average of the people on this site? And if we’re going just Safety #1 and #2 vs. SS/FS(I don’t remember which way Fooch is going on that), then you have throw Williamson and McDonald into the mix as well, I almost think there has been more talent at safety than at corner. Maybe Ronnie should have been in this grouping instead. With so much overall depth to choose from for the 4 starting DB’s spots, I really think we have to go 5 DB’s total. Just my two cents.

"So's your mom"-David Sloane

by gatling on May 16, 2008 1:14 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

5 DBs

I’m all for 5 DBs. The fifth guy could be a safety OR a corner, as the nickelback in the NFL, now-a-days, isn’t always a corner anyway.

by sfgfan on May 16, 2008 2:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

5 DBs

I have no problem with that…Go 2 corners, a free safety, a strong safety and then a “defensive back” that would be any one of those positions. So basically we’ll have a 3-4 and the positions to be filled would be:

CB, CB, FS, SS, DB, OLB, OLB, ILB (would cover MLBs of course), ILB, DE, DE, DT, DL.

Thoughts?

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by Fooch on May 16, 2008 3:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sounds great

I’d say that’s a very solid group to work with.

"So's your mom"-David Sloane

by gatling on May 16, 2008 10:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly

With Lott slotted for the FS vote, I know my nickel back vote will go for another safety, with the idea of Lott sliding to CB in a nickel package.

"So's your mom"-David Sloane

by gatling on May 16, 2008 10:10 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When you make your best safety thread,you better put Jeff Fuller on there!!

This guy was awesome until an injury forced him to retire.

Here is a great article about him

by Shawn_1967 on May 18, 2008 9:25 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmmm not sure why that didnt work,that link will have to be copied and pasted into the browser.

by Shawn_1967 on May 18, 2008 9:26 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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