49ers Training Camp Battles: The "Ted" Inside Linebacker
I realize this is probably insanely early to start looking at training camp battles, but it ties in well with the recent announcement that 49ers training camp starts July 24. The 49ers will have ten practices open to the public so let's start prepping for those who make it to any practices (Hopefully I can get down there for another couple practices like last year). The plan is to pull these out every so often over the next 2+ months. I'll even create a section on the sidebar that keeps tabs of these posts and has them right at your fingertips.
"Ted" Linebacker
The Ted linebacker lines up on the tight end side of the field and takes up bodies, opening up the field for the Mike linebacker (Patrick Willis for the 49ers) to make many of the tackles. Derek Smith fit the role perfectly as he was able to handle the grunt-work and didn't complain. The question is who will take over the starting Ted role in 2008. There were rumors the team was interested in Takeo Spikes, but we'll ignore that for now. If Spikes were too sign before training camp, that would certainly be address.
Dontarrious Thomas
One of the newer 49ers in the mix, the folks at Daily Norseman provided some insight and the general idea is that Thomas is a great athlete but may not be an impact every-down guy right away. Both Daily Norseman and Scouts Inc seem to think the mental part of the game is what has limited Thomas so far. Clearly the mental side of the game applies to every position. However, some positions allow for greater reliance on physical talent, while others require more processing of information. Any ideas on how the "Ted" fits into this? That would certainly have an impact on Thomas's ability to fill the role.
Jeff Ulbrich
Consider me not all that surprised to see Ulbrich in the battle for the Ted position. Ulbrich has always been considered insufficient in the size and athleticism department and yet he continues to make contributions. It seemed like this past year he made his name in special teams but was really all over the field. Is Jeff Ulbrich the second coming of Derek Smith? A guy who lacks the natural talent of many linebackers but still gets the job done? I think of all these guys, Ulbrich is the safest bet to get a lot of playing time, even though he may not be as talented as Thomas. I think Ulbrich has the inherent edge, but we'll see if he backs it up with production.
Larry Grant
Grant is a mere seventh round draft pick and is expected to make more of an impact on special teams this year. However, the NFL has its fair share of players who have been after thoughts in the draft and end up as impact players in the league. His scouting report indicates he's not a major playmaker, but that is not exactly a necessary trait for the Ted. If he can stick around I could see him transitioning to getting time at the Ted in the future, particularly when Ulbrich is finished as a 49er. We'll have to pay close attention to his special teams performances in 2008.
Others
Brandon Moore: Nolan has said Moore will spend his time as Patrick Willis' backup. Moore has so much talent and yet he doesn't seem to have what it takes to get off blocks in the role of the Ted. Maybe that is what makes him more suitable backing up Willis. We all see great athletic talent, but he just isn't quite putting it together completely.
Dennis Haley: Another Ravens castoff joining the 49ers. He's going to compete at the inside linebacker position in training camp, but barring injuries, I don't see him making the team. Anybody out there know anything about Haley?
Ezra Butler: I completely forgot about undrafted rookie free agent Ezra Butler out of Nevada. The team seems to be high on him and Barrows says Butler actually picked the 49ers over a couple teams who offered more money because he was psyched about the opportunity of playing for Mike Singletary. The ultimate recruiter for linebackers. If you want to vote for Butler, vote for the Other option. Feel free to mention him in the comments if you'd like.
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How did the Niners not draft a LB?
They need an ILB and an OLB. I guess, Thomas might be the best choice out of these guys but I think Ezra Butler has a shot at playing both TED and and the weak side OLB.
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by methodrampage on
May 9, 2008 7:36 AM PDT
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Undrafted FAs
I completely forgot about the undrafted free agents…I’ll have to add them in.
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by Fooch on
May 9, 2008 8:18 AM PDT
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Ted
In regards to a player’s mental game and playing the “Ted,” I think the Ted doesn’t really need a whole lot. The player just has to know his primary assignment (who he’s primarily supposed to take on to free up Willis). It’d be a big plus if he has a very good head on his shoulders (as that’s probably what kept Derek Smith in the lineup last season), but it may not be completely necessary.
Out of all the guys listed, Thomas would be my best bet. The 49ers seem to what to be able to be very flexible on defense (in terms of strong-side vs. weak-side). They can achieve this by having someone fairly athletic playing along-side Willis, but that person has to also be willing to take on blocks. Thomas, if he shows he’s got his head on straight, fits this description. Ulbrich, regardless if he starts at the “Ted” or not, will get plenty of play time because the team likes him in the “big” nickel set, which they tend to use against the Rams and Seahawks.
by sfgfan on
May 9, 2008 8:58 AM PDT
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Grant's a little light
Here are some other Ted’s from good 3-4s around the league:
Bart Scott (Ravens), 6’2”, 240
Larry Foote (Steelers), 6’1”, 239
Teddy Bruschi (Cheaters!), 6’1”, 247
... Larry Grant, 6’3”, 225
Don’t get me wrong, a Ted doesn’t have to be huge, but Grant is 15-20 lbs lighter than these other guys. And it’s not like he was at a small program that didn’t have him lifting – he went to The Ohio State University.
Considering his size deficiency and the fact that only 1 of Nolan’s 4 previous 7th-round picks have made the team (Bajema), I’d say Larry’s a long shot.
by Nineraguan on
May 9, 2008 2:40 PM PDT
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Grant
I think Grant has a better chance of making the team than Roderick Green. He is a little small, but the guy plays bigger than that, and supposedly (contrary to your belief) he has the frame to add more weight.
The team will probably end up carrying 7 linebackers. I’m not exactly sure how many they carried all last season on the 53-man, but I can definitely see Lawson, Willis, Thomas, Banta-Cain, Haralson, B.Moore, and Grant. Unless Jay Moore shows that he has some pass rush ability, I think Grant may bring more to the table than Moore would.
Then again, as braekneck/methodrampage pointed out above, it’s very possible that Ezra Butler may be able to play both inside and out, which would make him a lot more useful on the 53-man roster. If Butler OR Grant go through camp and get cut, I think there’s a very good chance another team would claim them off the practice squad. This is especially true of Butler, as I feel he’ll show everyone a little something come pre-season.
by sfgfan on
May 9, 2008 2:50 PM PDT
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What about Ulbrich?
Do you think he’s getting cut, or was that just an oversight?
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by JRPhillips on
May 9, 2008 3:54 PM PDT
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Ulbrich
I have to admit, that was a pretty big oversight, as I do think he’s going to make the team. Do I think he’s as useful for the team this year and beyond? I don’t think so, but Mike Nolan likes himself some veterans on his team, and Ulbrich fits that description. When it comes down to it, though, the 49ers will have to decide whether or not they want to keep a player who may only be effective for another couple of years (Ulbrich), or use this opportunity with all the decent-potential youths (i.e. Butler, J.Moore, and Grant) they have to hopefully mold a new contributor.
It sounds a bit cold, but I’d go with youth in this situation, as Ulbrich probably doesn’t provide much more for this team than guys like Thomas, or B.Moore are capable of in terms of versatility, but lacks a whole lot more upside/potential.
Of course I could be wrong in including B.Moore in the roster, as I’m sure he’s on the bubble as well.
by sfgfan on
May 9, 2008 4:05 PM PDT
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