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Barry Sims signs with the 49ers: Impact?

For those who missed it from earlier, the 49ers won the every exciting and popular Barry Sims sweepstakes, outlasting the Rams, Patriots and Ravens.  Sims signed a two year deal, although financial terms were not revealed.  In deciding on the 49ers, it sounds like it was a combination of locale, $$$ and playing time:

"What maybe tips it a little bit is the money is a little bit better and you don't have to move to play here," said Vierra, who declined to reveal terms of the deal. "All I can tell you is he had a good feel in San Francisco."

Sims previously played for the Raiders and had a home in San Ramon I believe, so not having to relocate probably helped.  He'll compete with Jonas Jennings at right tackle, but he has the flexibility to play both tackle positions, making him an extremely valuable asset off the bench.

53-man roster
The question now is how this affects everybody else.  While it's probably not a 100% lock, I'd imagine Sims is a pretty likely candidate for the 53-man roster.  I had indicated in the 53-man projection post that if the 49ers signed Sims, Damane Duckett would be the likely candidate to get axed.  Of course Duckett seems to be a pet project of the coaching staff, which might work out in his favor.  If they went with Sims OR Duckett, the team would carry 9 offensive lineman into the regular season.  One reason to go with just Sims is his availability as a right and left tackle.  Any thoughts on who is out of luck with the Sims signing?

Chilo Rachal
After being drafted as a guard, word was that the coaching staff was going to move Rachal to right tackle in large part due to lack of depth.  Now that there is a bit more depth, I'm curious if they still try and get Rachal some time at tackle.  It'd be nice if he could get a little time at both tackle and guard.  A versatile offensive lineman is a valuable commodity and considering how young he is, Rachal has time to develop both guard and tackle skills.

Jonas Jennings
Jennings is immensely talented, but unfortunately quite injury-prone.  If Sims has a good camp, this could very well be the end of Jonas Jennings as a 49er.  He has never been guaranteed a spot in 2008 and this gives the 49ers some more options.  Cutting Jennings could open up a spot for one of the other young options in camp, whether it be Joe Toledo, Alan Reuber, or Damane Duckett.  Of course, if Jennings is solid in camp and can stay healthy, that's kind of a moot point.

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Who will see the most playing time at right tackle in 2008?
Jonas Jennings
113 votes
Barry Sims
111 votes
Chilo Rachal
25 votes
Damane Duckett
4 votes
Joe Toledo
10 votes
Alan Reuber
12 votes

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Barry Sims a 49er? Yes!

I am happy Barry Sims have defected from the hapless Raiders to the 49ers. I think it just really means more depth at right tackle than we’ve had lately.

Regardless of who wins the starting job at right tackle, he has to be the best player at the position, and healthy. The addition of Sims makes our roster more lucrative and solid.

Sims will contribute for sure, but will he be a productive player?

That’s what we’ll have to see.

"We Have a God who delights in impossibilities."

by 16to80endzone on Jun 23, 2008 7:28 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Congratulations to Sims

I am a former Raider Fan and for the past few years have become increasingly disillusioned with the way the team has been run. How can anyone stay focused and stay true to a team that each year changes the head coach and the coaching staff. Despite all of this Barry Sims has remained loyal and has done his best for most games. Everyone has a bad day but Sims never seemed to give up on his team. Good luck to you Sims and you Niner Fans should feel lucky to have someone like him on your team. Maybe I will become a Niner fan this year. We will see.

by former raider fan on Jun 23, 2008 8:34 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Defection From Raiders to 49ers

Former Raider fan- I myself was a former Raider fan who defected to the 49ers and that was over 26 years ago. I even have forgotten what it feels like to be a Raider aside from the Raider Nation hysterics.

Fooch, I want to add that newly signed Sims not only signed because he maintains a home in San Ramon, or because of the good money the 49ers will pay, but because he feels the 49ers is outstanding and offers him the chance chance to get into the playoffs.

When a free agent or any player signs with the 49ers, it makes me feel honored because it’s a sign that those players believe the 49ers are Super Bowl material, or that they believe the coaching staff will make them better players.

Also, I want to mention Sims’ history of false starts. I feel confident in our coaching, even if Sims is a veteran, our team of coaches will make him a better player. That’s not to say he won’t get any false start penalties, which are only 5 yards each penalty, but I firmly believe that Sims will cut it down and still maintain his intensity. He comes with more experience and more upside than Kwame Harris, anyway.

So much for the helicopter ride I wrote in a previous comment that should be offered to Sims, it was just my excitement because I could feel in my guts that Sims would choose the 49ers over the other teams.

I think we should keep Duckett. I think either Reuber or Toledo should be the odd man out. I don’t know who is better, Reuber or Toledo, but I am more enthusiastic about Duckett, from hearing good reports about him, he has grown as a player.

"We Have a God who delights in impossibilities."

by 16to80endzone on Jun 23, 2008 10:29 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My thoughts.

The more I’ve thought about it, the more I like the Sims signing. The way I see it, he and Jennings aren’t really that far apart. Jennings may be better, but lacks the consistency to be depended on, and ultimately, that’s something that’s VERY important along the offensive line.

With that said, I don’t think it’s a lock for Jennings to completely get axed if Sims wins the starting job at RT. Jennings can back up both tackle spots, so unless the 49ers are offered something useful (i.e. a younger offensive lineman or a 3rd or 4th round pick) in return, I don’t see Jennings going anywhere. Jennings’ primary detriment is that he’s oft-injured and as tough as a stick of butter when it meets a cleaver, but as a backup, he could be useful.

Likewise, Sims could be useful in the same effect. He was not always consistent in the past and that has shown to many people (particularly Raider fans). He’s had issues with false starts and holding penalties, but he has shown some kind of improvement according to Matt Maiocco:

Barry Sims was called for 10 false starts and four holding penalties last season. Six of his false starts (including three in Tennessee) were on the road, while all of his holding penalties were away from home. One more thing, only one of his false starts and one of his holding penalties came in the final eight games. —Matt M.

In the end, this is a fairly good signing for this team. It’s not so good to the guys who were vying for that backup tackle spot, as it’s pretty much sewn up by the loser of the starting battle. Duckett, while a pet project, may have reached the end of the line. I don’t think guys like Reuber or Toledo really had a chance to begin with. Chilo Rachal, according to Matt Maiocco, will probably be moved back to guard where he’ll compete with Wragge for the top backup spot.

On a side note, it’s very possible that Wragge and Rachal challenge Baas for the starting RG spot. It’ll be an interesting training camp in the trenches.

by sfgfan on Jun 24, 2008 10:15 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Source

The source for the boxed Maiocco quote above comes from the comments following this post.

by sfgfan on Jun 24, 2008 10:16 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Neat quote from Maiocco

From his recent article:

The 49ers’ backup right tackle is now the Raiders’ starting left tackle. And the Raiders’ starting left tackle is the 49ers’ backup right tackle — with a chance to win the starting job.

by sfgfan on Jun 24, 2008 10:20 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Psychology Reversal

As for Maiocco’s neat quote, looking at it in this way does bring about psychology reversal into our minds!

"We Have a God who delights in impossibilities."

by 16to80endzone on Jun 24, 2008 12:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On sfgfan's Thoughts:

You made some good comments that I can agree with, as the training camp becoming very interesting in the trenches. Having good depth at any given position is a good problem to have. At least it’s not my problem, the problem is now in the hands of Mike Nolan.

It’s the choices that we make that makes problems a good thing after all.

"We Have a God who delights in impossibilities."

by 16to80endzone on Jun 24, 2008 12:58 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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