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Der Kommissar Strikes Back

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Roger Goodell thinks something is wrong with the rookie pay scale and that it is ridiculous that unproven players are getting so much guaranteed money.  I completely agree with him and, for once, am happy that he seems to attack his issues kamikaze style.

With the system as it currently is, it's easy for a team that's bad to get stuck in a perpetual loop of suckitude.  High draft pick + bust = huge chunk of salary cap gone + another high draft pick.  Perhaps, you might say, these teams just need to draft smarter.  However, to me, it seems very few teams are able to consistently avoid wasting high drafts.  Not to mention how easy it is for players to get injured in the NFL.

Chris Cooley also touched on this a while back, and, well, he's just awesome so...link:

Respect Captain Chaos 

One of the arguments the players and agents use is that if rookies get huge salaries, established players can use the rookie payscale as leverage in contract negotiations.  I don't buy that horseshit for a second since the rookies initial contract has nothing to do with their NFL skill level.

So, let me know what you think.  Are you too in agreement with the commish, or do you think the rookie payscale is fine as is?

P.S.  Sorry if this diary fanpost is so scattered/disjointed.  My mind isn't working great today.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.

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I actually believe in both sides… I believe that the players should be allowed to squeeze as much money as they can out of the system… but I also believe that the system itself has to be optimized (it is a business… I mean, I couldn’t demand $70,000 a year when I started at my job just because I was a great prospect).

I guess this isn’t a contradiction, really. As with any payscale, employees have to get payed within the limits of what makes the business run best, and I imagine that doing something to limit the salaries of rookies is in the best financial interest of the business.

So yes, I approve of this.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 27, 2008 12:51 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

salaries

There are some times where a person can get a high salary right off the bat (lawyers with big firms for instance). Of course usually you spent the previous summer as a summer associate so it’s not a complete shot in the dark for the firm.

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by Fooch on Jun 27, 2008 7:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm.

It’s odd. I seemed to always think that the written “pay scale” is actually pretty reasonable. However, as I stated elsewhere (probably when Cooley first made his comments), I think the CBA has just too many loopholes that lets the agents abuse the teams a little too much. Correct me if I’m wrong (anyone), but isn’t there a rookie pool that each team is assigned? Isn’t that pool determined by the picks (i.e. slot) the team had?

If what I’m “assuming” is actually true, then where is this all wrong? It’s the way the bonuses can be structured in the contracts. Rookie contracts have clauses that many veteran contracts have, and these clauses allow for the team to pay the rookie more than the slot. In other words, I think the agents (and players) have too much negotiating power over the teams. That power is understandable for a player who’s been in the league for 5 years, but not someone who has yet to set foot on an NFL football field.

How can this be fixed? The renegotiation of the CBA, of course. There has to be a way for the team to NOT have to sign their high draft pick (i.e. like in baseball). If the two sides can’t agree, the team gets a similar pick the next season. Of course, a clause like that in the CBA would probably be almost impossible for owners to obtain. Another possible part of the solution is just to do away with lousy “bonuses” like the “roster bonus” or “workout bonus”.

I’m just kind of spitting out ideas. I really don’t know how the CBA negotiations work, so my ideas may not work at all (there’s probably a reason why they’re not already in existence). This was just a roundabout and long way for me to agree that rookies should not be making the money they’re making. Not that it’s their fault, but busting on a contract that big is just so detrimental to the entire business the way things are.

by sfgfan on Jun 27, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I keep wanting this to be “Der Kommissar Strikes Back” so I can make more Star Wars references, but then it keeps turning out not to be.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 27, 2008 6:08 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anything for you. Actually, it’s just a much better title.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Jun 27, 2008 9:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Boy I can’t wait until we find out that Goodell was Pacman’s father all along!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 27, 2008 11:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, remember when Goodell cut Pacman’s hand off (suspension) and then Pacman inched a bit into the dark side (no longer wants to be called Pacman)? That was awesome.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Jun 28, 2008 10:34 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And in the end it’ll turn out that Goodell is just some crusty old white guy!

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2008 11:08 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

(we find that out in Return of the Cornerback, though)

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jun 28, 2008 11:09 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, but does he have James Earl Jones’ voice?

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by marcello on Jun 28, 2008 11:16 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Better—he has Facenda’s.

"I been waitin' a long time for this! I been waitin' since the f**kin' amateurs!" --WILL "THE THRILL" CLARK

by Josh from Hollywood on Jun 28, 2008 1:01 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Salaries

Although many members lament not being able to dictate a salary based on potential, this is the way of the world when it comes to the ‘professions’. Doctors and lawyers can dictate their salaries based on potential (grades, skills, class position, etc.) So, this isn’t something special about the ‘professional’ athlete. For instance, if a law student is tops in their class and they are enrolled at a school that is renowned, they will get the better corporate jobs that are being offered out there. Same for doctors and such. Even those students in technical trades that graduate tops in their classes will get the best offers from IBM, Microsoft, etc. So, the professional sports model is equally valid and paying a newly graduated employee a higher salary based on their potential works for me, be it sports or the professions.
How often do we hear the stories about an older executive being replaced by a younger, just graduated business school graduate that has graduated at the top of their class. Same rules apply, no matter how fair you might think it is, it is the bottom line that always counts. A top of their class graphic artist or game designer will get a fantastic salary upon graduation, sometimes even sooner (if we want to look at basketball where ‘student’s’ are ‘coming’ out early, the same happens in the computer graphics industry.)
So, whether they be seasoned veterans or Heisman trophy winners, those athletes that are in demand will get the best salaries.
I understand that when talking about the usual employment situation, this probably doesn’t apply. But we are talking about the cream of the crop here at the highest levels, so what applies to the average ‘joe’ isn’t at work here. But the sharpest lawyer from Harvard or the best quarterback from Florida State are basically in the same situation. And they can ‘dictate’ their starting salaries from the best companies, in fact, the athlete is at a disadvantage in comparison, he doesn’t have the luxury of picking ‘who’ he works for, the drafts do that. Just imagine if the athlete came out of school a free agent from the start.
A top flight resident in Plastic Surgery at UCLA’s Medical School can easily get more than a million guaranteed from a top flight Plastic Surgery practice in Beverly Hills. And he can choose which one he wants to work for, athletes are indentured servants in a way by comparison. But that is off set by a 50 million dollar contract, guaranteed. So I guess that makes up for the fact that he can’t choose his employer.
For the sake of argument, 300 new football players are signed each year, out of how many seniors that played all 4 years in college, now that is the definition of exclusive if I ever saw one. Throw in the ‘this is entertainment’ and how much the NFL pulls in every year, the players are probably getting a pretty fair shake out of this industry. It is what the traffic will bare, so why not. We also have to remember that these players ‘life spans’ are pretty short in comparison to other professions, so where’s the ‘rub’ here?
I have a tendency to respond, yea, yea, yea, so, so, so, yadda, yadda, yadda, now can we flip the coin a play some football? I just want to sit here a few hours, raise my blood pressure to unsafe levels, along with my cholesterol levels, let alone destroy my liver in the process. LOL
Peace and Love you guys, let’s play some football…. w.

by 9er'58 on Jul 12, 2008 10:43 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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