Frank Gore and DeShaun Foster: The Dynamic Duo?
In our continuing run through random features at the major sports websites, today we see Scouts Inc going all cartoon character on us. The scouts decided to rank "all 64" running backs in the league. The reason I put that in quotation marks is because they have missed some running backs, notably our very own Michael Robinson. Of course Robinson is a 3rd string back and not a huge contributor in the running game. So I'm guessing this is more along the lines of all starting and 2nd string running backs, or something like that.
This post was inspired in part by the lack of discussion in 49er land about the potentially great running back tandem the 49ers will put on display. Of course their production will depend in part on the play of the offensive line and if both guys can remain healthy. However, in looking at the recent past, the last time the 49ers had two solid running backs at the same time was 2001-2003 when Garrison Hearst and Kevan Barlow were carrying the load. Two of those three teams went to the playoffs and while it was more than the running game that did that, a great running game can certainly help. Gore's first year as a starter the team shocked many by finishing 7-9 as Gore finished with the best rushing season in franchise history. Last year Gore struggled and it's kind of amazing he finished with 1,102 yards considering the performance of the rest of the offense. The 49ers have plenty of other worries but to point out the dramatic improvement at running back, consider just the numbers. Last season, DeShaun Foster had more rushing yards than the combined rushing yards over the last two years of any 49ers rusher not named Frank Gore. The last two seasons have seen the non-Gore's rush for 852 total yards. Foster has averaged 884 yards the last three seasons. Now Foster will be in a different position in 2008 coming off the bench to spell Gore. However it will be interesting to see if this reduced playing time keeps both guys fresher over the course of the season. Maurice Hicks and Michael Robinson have done what they could as backups, but let's be honest, they are not the answer at RB #2 right now. Robinson could very well develop into a solid backup, but for now, Foster is a considerably better option.
So what do the scout's think? In discussing the backs, they ranked them and then went with a superhero motif giving a superpower and kryptonite:
7. Frank Gore, San Francisco 49ers
Superpower -- We're not sure we have seen a back who is so explosive yet has dealt with so many injuries. Gore shows exceptional quickness to and through the hole and can plant and change directions quickly. He runs with good balance and is tough to get off his feet. His hands are an asset, and he likely will catch close to 100 balls in 2008 in the scheme of new offensive coordinator Mike Martz.
Kryptonite -- Durability. Gore has had two major knee injuries dating back to college, and in the NFL he has been nicked up often. We wonder about his longevity as a feature back. The 49er did not run as hard last season and became frustrated with his role in the offense. He needs to mature and become a more effective leader.
1 spot ahead -- Joseph Addai
1 spot behind: -- Marion Barber
42. DeShaun Foster, San Francisco 49ers
Superpower -- He is a talented, experienced backup who will bring good production and versatility to the 49ers' backfield. He can be very effective in a rotation or on third down. Foster possesses good hands as a receiver out of the backfield, and he can stay in and pass protect effectively. He still has good strength and quickness to be effective running between the tackles or on the outside.
Kryptonite -- Ball security always has been an issue with him, and he is starting to lose some of the elusiveness for which he was known coming out of college. He also gets upright when running inside. He is not a guy you want carrying the load full time, but he still can produce in a variety of situations.
1 spot ahead -- Matt Forte, Bears rookie1 spot behind -- Ray Rice, Ravens rookie
I think it's difficult to predict exactly how the Gore/Foster randem will work over the course of the season. They're both highly talented running backs. Foster has played in a semi-platoon situation with DeAngelo Williams, but when healthy he was the #1 guy in that platoon. So he'll have to get used to not being the man. So what kind of production will we see from this duo? Since the end of the Hearst/Barlow duo, the 49ers best rushing season was 2006 when the team rushed for 2,172 yards, thanks in large part to Frank Gore's obscene season. Once again, the offensive line play and production of the passing game will play a large part in this. For now though, let's just look at the running backs in a vacuum. So what kind of production do you see?
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If I remember correctly, Gore wasn’t frustrated with his role in the offense. He was frustrated with the offense in general, and particularly the offensive coaching. Otherwise, it’s good to see an evaluation of a player based on what appears to be actual first-hand knowledge of the way he plays. They don’t say very much in that blurb, but they do say enough to give me the impression that they’ve actually watched him outside of the highlight reels.
Which is nice.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jun 5, 2008 3:42 AM PDT 0 recs
O-Line Protection Creating Openings
As explosive a player Gore is and as savvy on his feet Foster is, the O-Line still is responsible for creating the holes for them to surge through. We need to add a couple more players to the offensive line and get them all on the same page under Martz’s offense before the season starts, and the sooner, the better.
I feel for the 49ers to be cohesive as an unit is to have all the pieces in place and ready to go, to start strong in the first half of the 2008 NFL season. We don’t want to find ourselves in quicksand barely touching .500 ball because it will set the tone for the rest of season.
Gore will be more frustrated with the offense than not getting the ball, because the other 10 players have to do their jobs, too. That’s not to say he won’t get the ball, because he will.
Everything must click this year.
16to80endzone
by 16to80endzone on Jun 5, 2008 7:35 AM PDT 0 recs
Who are you suggesting?
We need to add a couple more players to the offensive line and get them all on the same page under Martz’s offense before the season starts, and the sooner, the better.
Are there any free agent OL that you’ve got your eye on? Or are the Niners just going to pull starting quality OL out of thin air?
I’d be very pleased if this team plays between and .562 ball (1 game over .500 (9-7)). Realistically, if you ask for anything more you’re asking for this team to get extremely lucky.
by methodrampage on
Jun 5, 2008 8:50 AM PDT
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Offensive line
Most of the projected starters along the offensive line are the same players that paved the way for Gore’s record-setting season. While I understand players decline or fall off the face of the earth for no reason, I also think that the fairly bland game-calling last season affected the effectiveness of the line. You can only do so much when you’re outnumbered. The hope, this year, is that Martz will bring a little more “unpredictability” to the offensive game-plan, and in term, make the offensive line’s (among everyone else’s) job a little easier.
There’s not a single free agent that will outplay the current “starters.” As method points out, 9-7 is already an optimistic outlook. Asking the team (with all the uncertainty that revolves around the entire offense and the lack of a pass rush) for more is simply unrealistic. That’s not to say that the team CAN’T do it, it’s just highly unlikely.
by sfgfan on
Jun 5, 2008 9:25 AM PDT
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Understanding Martz's Scheme
Speaking of optimism, I hope all of the players do understand Martz’s offense and grasp the full concept of it so they don’t have to be thinking on the field but react to the snap of the football.
The Starters, elite or just starting quality, still need to understand Martz’s game plans and the changes that will come about during the game due to Martz’s brilliant defense breakdowns.
"We Have a God who delights in impossibilities."
by 16to80endzone on Jun 5, 2008 10:44 AM PDT 0 recs
Understanding
It’s highly unlikely anyone will “fully grasp” the playbook in the next two and a half months.
by sfgfan on
Jun 5, 2008 2:55 PM PDT
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They have to nearly grasp the playbook by the time the season starts because that is when the "real" games begin.
"We Have a God who delights in impossibilities."
by 16to80endzone on
Jun 5, 2008 11:11 PM PDT
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Hopefully
15-20 carries a game for Gore, 10ish for Foster
Something like 280/160 for 2000 yards between them seems realistic.
That workload should be light enough to keep Gore fresh for the playoff run. (Ok, that part may be unrealistic.)
by DesertFox on Jun 5, 2008 12:24 PM PDT 0 recs
20 carries per game...
... is a lot for a back that still has four years remaining on his contract. At that rate, Gore probably won’t even survive past next season, let alone finish his contract.
I’m happy with 15 carries a game, as long as it’s supplemented by 3 to 5 receptions scattered about. If this team is going to win, it’s not because Frank and Foster carry the load. It’ll be because of improved line play overall, and as a result a more consistent QB and more consistent run game.
by sfgfan on
Jun 5, 2008 2:53 PM PDT
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Understanding for the Regular Season
They have to nearly grasp the playbook by the time the season starts because that is when the “real” games begin.
"We Have a God who delights in impossibilities."
by 16to80endzone on Jun 5, 2008 4:09 PM PDT 0 recs
Yeah...
... and thats about two and a half months away.
I know I’ve mentioned it before, and maybe you just don’t want to help the conversation flow properly, but it would be nice to everyone else around here if you would use the +reply “button” to reply to the comment that you’re actually replying to.
by sfgfan on
Jun 5, 2008 4:33 PM PDT
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If fantasy draft day was today
I’d give serious consideration to Gore at 3rd overall. Considering he’ll be in Martz’s system and is an excellent receiver and as tough as Faulk was elusive I’ll think he will have a very good year. certainly he doesnt have the other weapons around him that Faulk did with the Rams and I’m by no means predicting that kind of year but I could definitely see him approaching 2000 total yards
by sam23 on Jun 5, 2008 11:34 PM PDT 0 recs
The Faulk Factor In Gore
As Martz used Faulk, he’ll surely utilize Gore very similarly, as Gore’s game patterns after Faulk’s, not to the tee, but comparatively. It also depends on the synchronization of the offensive line, too. I firmly believed Martz is delighted to use Gore like a wide-eyed kid who has a new transporter toy.
"We Have a God who delights in impossibilities."
by 16to80endzone on
Jun 6, 2008 12:36 AM PDT
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Gore and Faulk
The two aren’t THAT similar at all. Faulk was a polished receiver. Gore’s made some receptions, but it’d be difficult to say he’s anything like Faulk was. Similarly, the running styles of each player are completely different. Faulk was never a down-hill runner and Gore isn’t really good laterally.
by sfgfan on
Jun 6, 2008 9:12 AM PDT
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Reading the News
If you have been reading the news, if Gore wasn’t like Faulk , why has Faulk been in contact with Gore mentoring him? Just because Gore ran a Franchise record 1,695 yards a couple of years ago and Martz is the offensive coordinator?
"We Have a God who delights in impossibilities."
by 16to80endzone on
Jun 6, 2008 10:20 PM PDT
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That logic is just completely off the wall.
So you’re saying Desean Jackson is like Jerry Rice? Please. Just because Faulk wants to be in the news and volunteer some OBVIOUS “advice,” it doesn’t mean that he and Gore are the same type of player. It’s not even really close, and there’s really no way to sell it otherwise.
I’m not saying Faulk is better. I’m not going to say Gore has the potential to be better. They just have two VERY different types of game.
by sfgfan on
Jun 9, 2008 10:26 AM PDT
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You're crazy
Gore is sliding to from like the 9th to the 12th spot, but I’d take him as early as 6th but definitely not at 3 (still too many questions about the offense). Tomlinson, Peterson and Jackson are by far the top 3 picks with Westbrook solidly at 4 (especially in PPR leagues) and Addai probably rounding out the top 5.
by methodrampage on
Jun 6, 2008 8:41 AM PDT
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Agreed, although Peterson would probably be my 4 or 5.
Neglectful father of David Quinowski
by marcello on
Jun 6, 2008 9:30 PM PDT
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Peterson is the biggest boom or "bust" pick in the top 3 (or 5)
I could easily see him being the top back if things break right for him.
by methodrampage on
Jun 9, 2008 2:27 PM PDT
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Legitimate Gore
Gore is a legit player who can have a great season, that’s all we can ask of him. Whether he will match his 1,695 is up to Gore finding the holes and the offensive line holding up.
If he once ran for a franchise record 1,695 yards, who is to say he cannot break his own record?
Then again the Martz factor will reveal itself over the course of the 2008 season.
"We Have a God who delights in impossibilities."
by 16to80endzone on Jun 6, 2008 10:18 PM PDT 0 recs
















