Any ways to improve the Pro Bowl?
So I'm sitting here watching the Major League Baseball All Star Game (reminder: this time it counts!). I've watched some, if not all, of the All Star game each year, largely because I'm a big baseball fan. I was fortunate enough to attend last year's game at the Giants park (I'm too tired to figure out the current phone company sponsor) and it was a fun game with a little late inning drama. This year's is proving equally interesting as we're tied 3-3 in the bottom of the 9th.
Bud Selig, MLB and Fox would have you believe the game has become more exciting since it now has some bearing, in that it decides home field advantage in the World Series. We won't get into the insanity of that here. However, I do think the MLB All Star game has always been my favorite all star event. The NBA game can be fun with the high scoring but it just becomes a dunk and crazy pass-fest. I'm not sure I'd consider the NHL a legit 4th major league, but I actually enjoy their All Star weekend, particularly the skills competition.
That leaves us with the NFL's annual season-ending Pro Bowl. I think it's safe to say the Pro Bowl is the worst of the All Star Games. If you disagree please tell us why because I can't think of any reasons (aside from THIS). Half the players selected to start usually beg off. There are actually rules in place to keep people safe, including no motion by receivers, no blitzing and no calling of intentional grounding. I realize with this particular sport you need to keep players safe. However, it also makes the game that much more blah.
In light of baseball's midsummer classic, I'm curious if people can think of ways to improve the NFL Pro Bowl. I think the general problem is the nature of the sport. Football is violent and when you're playing a game that doesn't matter and players make so much money they're less inclined to play all that hard. In basketball and baseball you can play at less than full effort and it still looks semi-decent. In football it can look awful.
Would a skills competition make up the difference? Hockey has a great skills competition that includes a speed skating competition, an accuracy competition and another one where players are firing away at the goalie and he tries to stop as many goals as possible. The NBA has thrown some crap out there but I still enjoy the 3-point competition. And of course MLB has their home run derby (in spite of Chris Berman's all around god-awfulness).
So any suggestions for NFL's post-season not-so-classic? I honestly don't know what would help things. We might just be destined for perpetully crap, but maybe I'm wrong.
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c'mon
football will always trump baseball. I will go see a giants game for the garlic fries. I will see the 49ers for a number of reasons. You can see a baseball game for 10 bucks. but to see the niners play.. unless you are behind a pole in the bumfuck nosebleeds your paying 100+ bucks a seat!!!
there is a reason for that!
by Stopwatch on Jul 15, 2008 9:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There's a reason for that....
That reason isn’t because people love football more. It probably has more to do with the fact that there are 10 times more baseball games in a season played at a stadium (at least) than there are in football.
by sfgfan on Jul 16, 2008 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
the only way to help is to put the Pro Bowl during the week between the conference championships and the super bowl. That way there is still football during that slow week and weekend leading up to the super bowl. It still won’t make the players try any harder but it’ll help the fans who need football at all times.
when will the Kenny Thomas Reign of Terror end?!!??
by diehardkingsfan5 on Jul 15, 2008 11:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A number...
... of players voted to the Pro Bowl tend to come from the Super Bowl teams. If I was a team of, say, the Colts, I’d probably go nuts if Peyton Manning decided to play in the Pro Bowl the week before his schedule Super Bowl. In other words, fans would miss out on some of the players they voted in.
by sfgfan on Jul 16, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
with the number of players
that skip out on the pro bowl it wouldn’t be such a surprise without some if the big names. And it would only be from the two teams in the super bowl that would miss the pro bowl.
when will the Kenny Thomas Reign of Terror end?!!??
by diehardkingsfan5 on Jul 16, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Playing the game in Hawaii is a HUGE problem. It turns what should be an event for the fans into just a regular old millionaire jerk-off.
That’s my biggest problem with it.
But I think the whole thing about All-Star games is spectacle. It’s why the Home Run Derby is almost more important to ASG Weekend than the actual MLB All-Star Game. It’s why Basketball and Hockey both also have skills competitions. You’re getting the best players in the country – often in the world – and you want to see them hit some dingers (or whatever other sport equivilent)!
But the success of spectacle is spectatorship (hey, common root words there!). It wouldn’t do the NFL any good to have a skills competition in Pro Bowl week because the fans will NEVER feel close enough to it to care as long as it’s outside the continental United States and Toronto.
I don’t know… I’d get a real kick out of an All-Star Punt-Pass-Kick competition. But it takes something away from it knowing that 1) I’ll never go, even if I actually decide that I want to because event tickets + plane tickets + hotel stay + vacation time =/= driving to Candlestick, and knowing that 2) What these guys really want to be doing is sitting on the beach, you know, since it’s there.
Having the All-Star game last season in San Francisco was cool. I didn’t go, but I COULD have gone. One day, it’ll be back. I probably won’t go then, either, but at least it’ll be a reasonable option.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 16, 2008 2:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Skills competition.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t ESPN/ESPN2 run some kind of skills competition filmed during the Pro Bowl week? The QBs have passing tests, WRs have receiving tests, etc. The problem is, these don’t generally air until later in the offseason, no? Maybe they could actually air these as they’re being filmed.
by sfgfan on Jul 16, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think the skills competition is during the pro bowl
the last few haven’t been in Hawaii, if I’m not mistaken.
when will the Kenny Thomas Reign of Terror end?!!??
by diehardkingsfan5 on Jul 16, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, Fooch, when in doubt go with “Mays Field.”
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 16, 2008 2:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Here is a wacky yet pragmatic idea
Ok, so nobody cares about the Pro-Bowl.
It might look good on a players resume.
And making the Pro-Bowl may help secure a few more dollars for the Pro-Bowl elected.
Since nobody gives a rat’s arse, why continue to simply go through the motion? The answer to that could be that the mafia has a gun to Der Kommissar’s head someone’s head, but I digress.
Why not just have the players play the game, virtual style?
I’m talking about a John Madden—smack-mouth, snot-flopping, crap-talking, nut-punching, helmet-stomping, atomic-wedgy-giving, eye-poking, beer-drinking, showdown.
Each player could represent himself, or have a stand in if said player is Madden-challenged.
This way the starters could play all game, players could play balls-to-the-wall and nobody gets hurt, except for a few egos maybe.
Not only does this wacky idea go far in preventing injury, it also gives us a chance to see the players doing something that most of us can relate to—playing video games.
Make it happen Commish.
Good day.
Fooch, when the aliens land and say, "Take me to your leader," I'm taking them to you!
by jfainsf49 on Jul 16, 2008 6:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
All ASG are whack
They all suck. What’s the point?
by methodrampage on Jul 16, 2008 8:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Since many NFL players are focused on monetary compensation, why not give a hefty bonus to the players of the winning team? On top of that, give the MVP winner an even bigger bonus, to see some bigger hits, and bigger plays made. That might actually spur the defense into action, and might lower the scores a little bit.
I’m a big hockey fan (having lived near Buffalo I am a natural Sabres fan), and I’ve always loved watching the NHL ASG. Big hits, great action, and the skills competition is fun to watch. Of course, those guys play for the fun of the game, for the most part…
by Cruithear on Jul 16, 2008 8:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Big hits.
It’d completely suck if you ended the career of a player at an ALLSTAR GAME. A game that didn’t count. A useless and meaningless game.
If it weren’t for the fact that these All-Star games actually generated revenue, it’s unlikely ANY major league would actually play them. Why risk your assets (i.e. players) for a game that has no bearing on how you’ll do this season or next?
As Method says above: “What’s the point?”
by sfgfan on Jul 16, 2008 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
baseball
Baseball is my favorite sport, so I just love it.
as for improvements to the Pro Bowl, stop having it in Hawaii. Have teams host it. I guess some skills competition might work, but I think that it’s after the Superbowl, people are all football’d out. So it can’t really save itself there
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by PHUT! on Jul 16, 2008 10:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
flag football
Maybe they should change it to a flag football game or something along those lines, something with a little less contact that would allow the players to show off different abilities and still kind of play hard. I don’t know…dumb idea??
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by 49erLou on Jul 16, 2008 11:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just do away with the whole game
I don’t know a single person who looks forward to the game or watches the game for pure enjoyment. I don’t know why they can’t just name players to ‘pro bowl’ teams and then just never play the game. Does anyone really care whether or not the NFC beats the AFC or visa versa?
If they absolutely have to have it, I’d suggest, as someone did earlier, that they play the game in between the Conference games and the Super Bowl. Just let whoever is in the SB be excused. As an added bonus, I’d move the PB from Hawaii to the host city of the Super Bowl.
by cgolden on Jul 16, 2008 12:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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