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49ers Best Case/Worst Case: Eve of Training Camp

Training camp starts tomorrow for the 49ers.  That much everybody knows.  What will be the end result nobody really knows.  Accordingly, I thought we'd take a look at the possible best and worst case scenarios for the 49ers.  The plan is to look at them now and then again at the end of training camp when injuries have occurred or been recovered from. 

I had thought about considering injuries, but the worst case scenario could then result in injuries to half the starters.  So, instead the closest I'll come to injuries is certain starters "wearing down" from overuse.  Normally I'm not a really negative person, but I think it's useful to consider the extremes in this case.  Additionally, when I say extremes I'm not saying 16-0 and 0-16.  I'm not predicting starting QB in the Pro Bowl for Alex Smith or 1,800 receiving yards from Bryant Johnson.  Rather these are "realistic" best and worst case scenarios based on the past and thoughts about the future.

Best Case Scenario
While I know plenty of folks are on the Shaun Hill bandwagon, the best case for the 49ers has to involve Alex Smith taking the next step.  If Shaun Hill steps up and takes the starting job that would be a close second.  However, given the investment in and expectations of Alex Smith, the absolute best case scenario is his continued evolution as the starter.

Smith seemed to be making some progress in 2006, so this would involve him taking a step up from that season, as opposed to 2007.  This would involve about 3,500 passing yards (he had 2,890 in 2006) and getting above 60% in completion percentage.  These are numbers that would put him in the top 10-15 QBs in the league.

Frank Gore would bounce back from a relatively sub-par 2007 to finish with 2,000+ combined yards (1,500+ in 2007, 2,170+ in 2006).  Bryant Johnson steps up with 70+ receptions and the 49ers finally have a 1,000+ yard receiver.   At the same time, Vernon Davis takes the next step to 70+ receptions and over 1,000 yards as well.  Finally, after a step back last season, the offensive line gels and keeps Smith off his butt most of the time.  While I'd hope for Chilo Rachal to step up into the right guard role, he settles in as a solid sub and David Baas holds down the job for one season.

On defense, Patrick Willis sees his tackle total go down, but more because the rest of the defense has improved.  Manny Lawson bounces back and the combination of Tully Banta-Cain, Jay Moore, Parys Haralson and some Justin Smith creates a somewhat viable pass rush.  The secondary's statistics improve because of this pass rush and the 49ers defense finishes in the top 10.

Best Case Record: 11-5, division champion.  While I'm not expecting this by any means, I think if things break the 49ers way and players develop like some of us hope, this is not out of the realm of possibility.  The 49ers face a tough schedule outside of the division but there are some upset possibilities.  11-5 can happen with upsets of the Eagles and Redskins and sweeps of the Cardinals OR the Rams.

Worst Case Scenario
Neither Alex Smith or Shaun Hill steps up and J.T. O'Sullivan proves to be the career backup that we expect.  If Smith and Hill both proved mediocre at best, the 49ers would be in the worst possible situation and I'd expect Mike Nolan would be out the door, possibly before the season is over.  The team would realize they need to draft, trade for or sign a new QB of the future and would have wasted the last four seasons and I'd imagine 49ers would be just a little bit frustrated.

Frank Gore could still be decent in a 49ers worst case scenario but I think he wears down over the course of the season and finishes with 900 or so rushing yards, but an increase in receiving yards because none of the receivers are getting open.  So he still finishes with 1,500 combined yards, but they're not "good yards."  The wide receivers struggle as Bryant Johnson will clearly never be more than a backup and Isaac Bruce hits the wall that 35 year old NFL players tend to hit.  Ashley Lelie is cut before the end of September and Jason Hill struggles in learning the NFL game.  Finally, the offensive line does not gel as Jonas Jennings continues to have personal issues.  David Baas is not fully recovered from his pec muscle tear and Chilo Rachal and Tony Wragge are not the answer yet.

On defense, Patrick Willis has an even higher tackle total than last season because the rest of the defense just plain stinks.  The pass rush continues to be non-existent in part because Manny Lawson is slow to recover from his injuries.  Walt Harris hits the same wall as Isaac Bruce and the 49ers are forced to give more playing time to rookie Reggie Smith and second year man Tarell Brown.  Clearly neither is prepared for this situation.

Worst Case Record: 3-13, Nolan is canned and somebody has strangled Mike Martz.  This would actually involve the 49ers going 0-8 on the road and 1-5 in the division.  Of course, they would still beat the Detroit Lions!

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Wow.

While I don’t believe reality follows either course you have outlined here, you did a very good job outlining the extreme ends of the spectrum. Never has a post got me very excited, then dropped me so far, so fast as this post did. The worst case scenario is downright depressing and it didn’t even include the possibility of key players getting serious injuries. That is always a very real possibility and could make the dark picture even darker.

But man oh man do I like thinking of Alex throwing for 3500+ and a division title. Fingers crossed.

by lacrosse_cat on Jul 24, 2008 10:17 AM PDT   0 recs

thanks

My goal was to create the wildest fan swing in 49ers recent history! I fully expect somewhere in the middle but I think either of these is a realistic possibility. Maybe I should have delivered the bad news first?

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by Fooch on Jul 24, 2008 10:28 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice Article

i really like what you have written. I think that the 49ers will be amazing if alex smith gets better, but Martz HAS absolutely HAS to give frank 300 carries. If alex smith produce and if gore gets 300 carries the 49ers will win the division because frank wouldnt have 8 guys in the box, he would have more holes so he could easily average 5 yards per carry and it would make the defense tremendously better, but then again that is if alex does well which i have a lot of confidence. We have hard games but it could work , i agree 11-5 at best, but most likely 8-8 or 9-7

by ill23will4 on Jul 24, 2008 11:09 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

"but Martz HAS absolutely HAS to give frank 300 carries"

cough…bullshit…cough

Gore doesn’t need 300 carries. His overall touches will be vastly more important than his number of carries. Marshall Faulk never eclipsed 260 carries in a season under Martz but he did get up to 340+ touches.

by methodrampage on Jul 24, 2008 2:49 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree.

What Martz may ACTUALLY need to do is limit Gore’s carries to 250 or less just to preserve any chances he has at playing out his entire contract. Like Faulk, he’ll more than likely eclipse 300 total touches.

by sfgfan on Jul 24, 2008 3:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

ur full of crap, when gore gets at least 20 carries, the 49ers are 11-2, easy, i understand 300 is high fine, but i would like 275, because it spreads out the offense, 1000 yards rushing adn 1000 yards recieving means nothing unless ur quarterback passes for 4500 yards, if gore gets a total of 17 rushes every game, and 3-4 recieving touches, the 49ers will do well, thats all

by ill23will4 on Jul 24, 2008 9:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

QB yards

I don’t even think you need 4,500 yards from your QB. You get 3,500 to 4,000 and you’re in very good shape. Only 2 QBs (Brady and Brees) finished with close to or more than 4,500 yards (4,806 and 4,423 respectively). If the 49ers got anywhere close to that and 1,000/1,000 they’d be in pretty amazing shape on offense probably.

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by Fooch on Jul 24, 2008 9:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

when gore gets at least 20 carries, the 49ers are 11-2

No, No, NO! This is the opposite of how it works! You’re drawing a logical fallacy about the line of causality between the 49ers winning and Gore getting touches. The line does not point for touches to wins, but rather from wins to touches. When the 49ers play well, Gore gets lots of carries. The 49ers, however, do not play well BECAUSE Gore gets lots of carries.

I cannot allow this line of thinking to stand.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 24, 2008 9:46 PM PDT to parent up   1 recs

Pro Football Prospectus

I think I might have to post PFP’s conclusions on this because you’re right. A team wins more when they rush because they’re ahead and rushing to close out the game

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by Fooch on Jul 24, 2008 9:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed.

You should go to Cold Hard Football Facts. They did an analysis that showed that number of carries had less to do with winning than other rushing related statistics. That was because number of rushes was so frequently skewed by having a lead already.

by lacrosse_cat on Jul 24, 2008 10:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

so much for your "The 49ers, however, do not play well BECAUSE Gore gets lots of carries."

you have no logic, look at this breakdown of 2007, of the games they won and loss ok
(WINS) Losses
Game Carries yards Game Carries yards Game Carries yards
ARI W 20-17 18 55 PIT L 16-37 14 39 SEA 0-24 13 72
STL W 17-16 20 81 SEA L 3-23 16 79 STL L 9-13 15 32
ARI W 37-31 21 116 BAL L 7-9 16 62 CAR L 14-31 12 58
CIN W 20-13 28 138 NYG L 15-33 14 88 Min L 7-27 16 68
TB W 21-19 21 89 NO 10-31 12 41 CLE L 7-20 21 94

As you see the 49ers do bad when gore gets under 15 carries, so his stats speak for himself, only once did he get 20 carries in losses in the games the niners lost he got only 149 carries and 622 yards meaning he average 14.9 carries and 62 yards a game in losses, yea the 49ers lose cuz hes getting so many carries, (cough cough) Look im not asking for 320 carries in a season, ok, but I think that he should get 275 carries. In 07 the reason why he did not average 5 yards per carry was because no o-line, no pass game, a sprained ankle, the loss of his mother, and good friend sean taylor. If the pass can build it up and alex smith produces well as well as the o line, then frank can easily average around 5 yards per carry. Frank is not the type of runningback who will give stop producing after 5 years. I think frank will have 8-9 good-really good years. My point when frank is given the ball more, the niners do well

by ill23will4 on Jul 25, 2008 12:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

"My point when frank is given the ball more, the niners do well"

You’re point is basically backwards. Frank gets the ball more when the Niners do well. Now think about it. Don’t give up yet, keep thinking. Do you have it? Nope? It’s hopeless.

Let’s see, do you know anything about clock management? It might be an advanced topic for you but I’ll try to dumb it down for you. When teams are winning late in games they run the ball because it burns (no, not literaly) the clock. When teams are losing late in games they pass the ball because the clock stops on incomplete passes and it’s easier to stop the clock on completions to routes run along the sideline. Essentially passing is a way to extend the game and running is a way to shorten the game and if you’re winning you want the game to be over as soon as possible and when you losing you want every second you can get to comeback.

by methodrampage on Jul 25, 2008 2:42 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Bigger picture.

Gore is signed for another four years. The less carries he gets every year, the less physical punishment he receives in said year. Running backs have notoriously short careers, and this is especially true now-a-days. Why not spread Frank out, ESPECIALLY considering he knows how to catch the ball and boost his receptions to 5-8 a game and cut his rushes down to 15 or so a game. You forget that the 49ers DO have a capable backup running back in Foster that can get some carries (and receptions), as well. Gore isn’t the only running back on this team.

by sfgfan on Jul 25, 2008 10:27 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

"Running backs have notoriously short careers"

Based on what? I know that the average career for Rbs is short but thg real question is why. I think it has less to due with injuries than what most are letting on and has more to due with the masses of running back mediocrity.

Anybody know the average career length of runningbacks? 3 or 4 years? It’s my opinion that it mostly has to do with how freely available mediocre RBs are and not so much with blowing knees out. If after 3 years a running back has proven to be purely mediocre there are droves and droves of younger RBs with at worst mediocre skill sets. There’s no advantage to keeping a 25 year old mediocre RB when 22 year old RB is going to be atleast as good and who could potentially be a whole lot better.

by methodrampage on Jul 25, 2008 10:59 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Mediocre and good.

Isn’t the line fairly thin between those two quantifiers? It doesn’t take a whole lot for an average running back to appear good, and contrastly, it doesn’t take a whole lot for a good running back to become average, as it just take a little fatigue (which can be caused by a variety of things) and “overuse.” I quote “overuse” because each running back will have his own threshold as to how many carries over a certain period of time they can handle. While I have no absolute proof that Gore would suffer from having too many carries, isn’t it kind of best to err on the side of caution if there is a capable backup that he can split those carries with and with the (albeit, old) medical history Gore has to work with?

Maybe I’m being a little hasty in thinking Gore won’t play out his contract, but it’s not THAT big of a stretch, is it?

by sfgfan on Jul 25, 2008 2:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I get your point

I agree that Gore shouldn’t be overused like Larry Johnson has been.

But it’s my opinion that the turn over in RB is so high, which leads to shorter careers, not because of injury be because of the wealth of depth acrossed the board at the position.

by methodrampage on Jul 25, 2008 2:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Turnover

That point makes a lot of sense, too. The career length of all running backs are undoubtedly skewed by the one-year (or a couple more year) wonders like Denver running backs.

by sfgfan on Jul 25, 2008 4:56 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

gore doesnt need to be marshall faulk

gore should focus on being faulk, gore should focus on being gore, gore is a good runningback who will last a long career, so give him 275 carries

by ill23will4 on Jul 25, 2008 12:30 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Nobody said Gore needs to be Marshall Faulk

The point that I made was that a RB doesn’t need 300 carries to be productive. Martz isn’t going to hand the ball off to Gore 300 times, it’s just not going to happen. However, he will get Gore his touches and via rushes and receptions for the Niners and Gore to be successful.

by methodrampage on Jul 25, 2008 2:21 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

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