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49ers Officials Meeting: Rules Changes

One of the highlights (or lowlights if you want) is when the NFL sends officials to specific training camps to discuss rule changes.  Every year there are tweaks the rules and while some have little to no value, there are occasional rule changes that can have a relatively dramatic effect on the game.  Barrows and Maiocco were all over the changes and I thought I'd break them out.

There has been talk about the league cracking down on gang signs and other celebratory antics.  As interesting as that might or might not be, there are some on-field rules that are more important:

1. Force Out Rule - The only time [the force-out] rule will ever come into effect is if a defensive player literally carries a player out of bounds.  Receivers must now have two feet down in the field of play.

I'm not really sure whether I was a big fan of the force out call or not.  On the one hand, if I'm a receiver coming down with the ball and get shoved out of bounds it seems like I should deserve credit for the catch.  At the same time, if a receiver catches the ball in the air and his momentum carries him out of bounds it's fair that's not a catch.  Considering the size of these guys, it takes a serious push to get them out so I don't think it's the end of the world.  And considering how often the rules are adjusted to favor offensive players, this seems like a fair balance.

2. Face-mask rule -There is no longer a 5-yard face mask penalty.  A 15 yard penalty is the only option and it will only be called when twisting, turning or pulling result from the play.  Additionally, an offensive player will be called for a 15-yard face mask penalty if they twist, turn or pull on the face mask while stiff arming somebody.

When they had incidental face masks as a potential call, it seemed easy for a defensive player to get flagged on what is a very subjective play.  This change makes it a little less subjective because it seems like you really have to grab a hold of the face mask.  At the same time, there remains a lot of subjective official judgment.

3. Football move for completion - Apparently a receiver no longer needs to carry out the proverbial "football move" for a pass to be considered complete.  MM mentioned this would lead to more fumbles this season, which makes sense.  When there is a review of a potential fumble, the announcers ALWAYS talk about whether a "football move" was made.  I'm curious how many more plays are ruled fumbles and how many more replays of fumbles/receptions are upheld/overturned?

Just for the hell of it, with all these rule changes, here's a point for discussion.  Do you find any particular rule in the NFL particularly stupid?  If you're a college football fan, maybe you'd prefer the NFL adopt 1 foot in bounds for a reception to be allowed.  Or maybe you'd prefer a variation on the intentional grounding penalty options. 

Personally, I think the league needs to figure out a better way to deal with intentional grounding as a penalty.  As is, if a QB just gets it past the line of scrimmage once he's outside the box it's not intentional grounding.  I understand the need to protect the QB, but I also think if he just chucks it into the stands, there's something not quite right about that.  Thoughts?

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SERIOUSLY AFTER ALL THE FREEZING OF THE KICKERS B.S. LAST YEAR, THEIR WAS NO RULE CHANGE?!

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by StrictlyFootball on Aug 1, 2008 3:41 AM PDT   0 recs

timeout rule

They specifically decided to not call unsportsmanlike conduct in that situation. I realize it’s seems like some BS, but at the same time they do it in the NBA all the time. Although I wonder if a free throw is a little bit easier than a field goal…not sure of the stats on that.

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by Fooch on Aug 1, 2008 10:24 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Referee Discretion

Freezing the kickers isn’t something that needs a rule change it can pretty much handled if the NFL tells the refs to use there discretion when awarding timeouts. A ref always has the I didn’t see/hear you soon enough aliby.

Anyways, how you qualify a no freezing the kicker rule?

by methodrampage on Aug 1, 2008 12:38 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm just saying

All the freaking out that went on last year and how much media coverage it got, you would think they would have addressed it. Also the thing I think should be adjusted about it is that when the kicking team is out on the field the timeout cannot be used. Use it before the special teams come out so we don’t have double field goal attempts.

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by StrictlyFootball on Aug 1, 2008 1:01 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Intentional Grounding

I would be all for it if they just modified the rule and force the QB to at least keep the ball in-bounds. Like you, Fooch, I think it’s kind of BS that they can just chuck it out of play as long as they’re out of the pocket.

by sfgfan on Aug 1, 2008 10:52 AM PDT   0 recs

I disagree

If you force a QB to keep the ball in bounds your more than likely opening a can of warms that will lead to QBs being penalized on accidental errant throws that end up out of bounds. In order to avoid confusion, miss interpretation, and blown calls rules need to be kept as simple as possible. Adding another criteria will only muddle things even more.

by methodrampage on Aug 1, 2008 12:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The overtime needs to go to the college format

when will the Kenny Thomas Reign of Terror end?!!??

by diehardkingsfan5 on Aug 1, 2008 6:26 PM PDT   0 recs

Respectfully disagree. Eliminating special teams at the NFL level would be a joke. At best, simply assuring one possession per team would be enough.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 2, 2008 10:32 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

it wouldn't completely eliminate special teams

field goals would still be attempted on drives. And there are still extra points after touchdowns.

I get your point though.

when will the Kenny Thomas Reign of Terror end?!!??

by diehardkingsfan5 on Aug 2, 2008 10:31 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

It can be tough

As a fan of an NCAA team who has had very good to spectacular return units in the past ten years, the NCAA overtime seriously penalizes teams who are good at that facet of them game. I like the novelty of the NCAA overtime rules, but would hate to see the NFL do anything like that.

by lacrosse_cat on Aug 3, 2008 3:36 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Full Quarter of Overtime

I think it should just be a full quarter of overtime. Although one idea that I believe I heard on Sirius’ NFL station, that I didn’t like at first buts is kind of growing on me, is that overtime should be the first team to 6 points (2 FG or 1 TD).

by methodrampage on Aug 4, 2008 2:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

First to 6

Yeah, that idea does sound somewhat interesting. Full quart of overtime works, too.

by sfgfan on Aug 4, 2008 3:25 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I just think it’s funny that at least two of these rules changes were put in because the refs were too incompetent to call the rule correctly.

The “force out” rule was fine how it was - had it ever been called correctly - but refs never signaled it, so even when there was a force out, replay would often over turn it because it’s forced to only look at whether the two feet were down and can’t take a force out into consideration (even if it was obvious) because that’s a judgement call. Because, as we all know, judgement calls should always be made by guys running full speed, or looking the wrong way, or trying not to get run over, rather than someone sitting in an air-conditioned booth with access to a HD plasma TV, DVR, and five different angles on the play, all in slow motion.

The “football move” rule was always a bad idea because of its ambiguity, and made the call much like an umpire’s strike zone - almost 100% up to the discretion of the official. The rule still could’ve worked, but slowly refs became so rigid in what was actually a football move, the call became butchered more and more often. I think I first knew the rule had become a joke when replay overturned a Walt Harris fumble return TD early in the Rams game in St. Louis in ‘06 - Holt had clearly gotten both feet down and was making a spin move when Harris knocked out the ball, but upon review the ref said it wasn’t a “football move”. If a spin move isn’t a football move, then nothing is.

The face mask rule change is the only one which seems to be a natural progression of the rule book—as players get bigger, faster stronger, you need to penalize for incidental contact less, and violent contact more.

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by Josh from Hollywood on Aug 1, 2008 6:34 PM PDT   0 recs

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