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49ers Training Camp: So J.T. O'Sullivan is in the starting mix. Or, maybe he is not.

Mike Nolan quotations:

"Shaun Hill is resting his shoulder. So since it was his turn to work with the first group, that’s why J.T. O’Sullivan worked with the first group. Because if he’s going to replace somebody’s repetitions, in fairness that’s what you do. And it is still wide open. So they’re all competing, but that’s where it’s at.”

On whether J.T. O'Sullivan is "back" in the mix for a starting job:

“No, he’s been in it all along. We did say that it would be difficult to get repetitions for the third guy. And now that he’s getting some repetitions, we’re doing it in a fashion that keeps it fair . . . Again, J.T. O’Sullivan still has less reps, but he had an opportunity to get some, so he got them. But this quarterback position is open. They’re competing for it, as I said all along.”

Huh????? 

Color me just a little bit confused.  First, I'll talk about what I actually think I understand in all of this.  Shaun Hill has thrown more passes in this training camp than probably every previous training camp combined.  He's never been in a battle to be the starting QB so that makes sense.  So, his arm got sore and they rested him, replacing his reps with J.T. O'Sullivan. 

I start to get a little confused because they say they want to keep Smith and Hill's reps with the first team even.  The problem is that Smith is already going to get more reps because Hill is missing time.  Of course, now today I read that Smith might get a day or two of rest.  Is J.T. O'Sullivan throwing a monkey wrench into the QB plans?  I could have sworn that last week it was a 2-man battle.  Did the rest for Hill open it back up?  I was going to guess maybe O'Sullivan got a little pissy about lack of playing time, but I really don't think that's something that Nolan would allow.

I was going to use this to re-assess the QB competition, but I really don't know what to think right now.  As would be expected with the installation of a new offense, things are a little sloppy right now.  Martz says it takes more than a week for it to start to flow and that is certainly understandable.  At the same time, we're all impatient because we've been waiting 3+ years for it to "start flowing" in a more general sense.

Obviously I'm willing to give Mike Martz the benefit of the doubt.  The man is an offensive genius and helped turn an Arena Football QB and former grocery store employee into a Super Bowl winning QB.   At the same time, I can't imagine things will be all that pretty in the first game.  Martz says more repetitions will get the offense in sync and things will start to look better.  Of course, the QBs in this case are splitting reps down the middle (maybe down in thirds now) meaning less reps for each QB.

While that has worried me recently, one thing has kept a little more positive lately.  In 1999, Trent Green was the clear-cut starting QB heading into training camp.  I believe it was during a preseason game that he got his knee shredded to hell and back, at which point Kurt Warner took over.  I don't know how many reps Warner had with the first team before Green went down, but clearly he could handle that offense.

My biggest concern is in the timing.  I'd imagine there is a bit of a difference between chucking passes to Jason Hill, Ashley Lelie and Josh Morgan versus Isaac Bruce, Bryant Johnson and Arnaz Battle.

So, I guess this opens up a few questions.  What exactly is up with J.T. O'Sullivan in all of this?  Will the offense really become fluid in the coming weeks?  Or will the split competition water down the final winner?

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It's "always" been a 3-man battle

If you look back at Nolan’s quotes from before training camp, he never actually said O’Sullivan was out of the race. He did, however, admit that it would be difficult to get all three of them a fair share of reps. It makes sense, to some degree, that they chose to give O’Sullivan less reps because he’s been in the system before. Apparently, that experience showed a little bit the last couple of days.

The way I see it, Nolan never completely wrote him off, so it makes sense that he’s using these “off” days for Hill and Smith to sneak in some O’Sullivan reps. Of course, there’s also another way of looking at it. Nolan doesn’t really like cry babies, and perhaps Hill complaining about being tired made Nolan want to mention O’Sullivan isn’t out of it. You know, to kind of light a fire under Hill. Of course Smith will get rest just because he’s already said he wants to keep their reps kind of even.

All in all, though, I don’t think the issue with reps is THAT bad right now. If the 49ers are still splitting reps almost 50-50 after the second week or so of the preseason, then it’d be time to think about it. I think there are plenty of reps the next couple of weeks to go around for everyone, especially if Hill and Smith continue to take the bulk of them.

by sfgfan on Aug 1, 2008 11:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The best man will...

win the QB battle. I don’t care at this point who it is, but let me tell you what I would do. Let me tell you my thinking, as unorthodox it is:

I would start Alex Smith. Why? It’s his job to lose. We paid him big bucks. It’s time for him to step up.

I don’t want Smith backing up O’Sullivan or Hill because it will make things worse, to pretty bad. If Smith goes down, Hill can, or has proven to provide a spark.

If O’Sullivan comes in after Smith goes down, he can harness the offense with ease, having been in the Martz offense already a seasoned vet. If O’Sullivan goes down, then Hill can provide the…spark…once again.

But Smith backing up? It goes from worse to bad.

Better comes the fall first so someone else can step up.

"We Have a God who delights in impossibilities."

by 16to80endzone on Aug 2, 2008 12:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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