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49ers Injury Report: A rookie will be getting a big chance Thursday

EDITOR'S NOTE - I managed to score jury duty today, so if anything comes up, feel free to use this as an open thread for breaking news of any sort.  Thanks to the power of SBN 2.0 I've managed to pre-post the #2 ILB All-Time team poll for noon pacific.  Other than that I'll be away from wireless until after 5pm.

Things along the offensive line certainly got a lot more interesting in the past couple of days.  After hearing that Jonas Jennings was having surgery on a broken knuckle, we learned today that Adam Snyder is out with what sounds like a right ankle sprain.  Thanks to sfgfan for throwing that one out below.

I use the headline "A rookie..." because there are a couple of options and no official word has been handed down as to which of the two will start.  One option would be to plug in undrafted rookie Brian De La Puente at left guard.  The other option is to move Tony Wragge over to left guard and plug in rookie Chilo Rachal at right guard.

We haven't heard a whole ton about De La Puente so I had a thought.  Maiocco has been running his day after look at all 81 players for both the Raiders and Packers games.  I'll post his comments on De La Puente and Rachal.

BRIAN DE LA PUENTE
Raiders

60-de la Puente: Nice block on linebacker Edgerton Hartwell on Hill shovel pass to Clayton helped net 14 yards. . . . Got a lot of action at LG after Snyder left the game.

Packers

60-de la Puente: Nice work one-on-one vs. DT Daniel Muir to allow Smith to deliver 27-yard pass down the field. . . . Performed very well in run and pass games.

CHILO RACHAL
Raiders

62-Rachal: Very solid job at RG after entering the game in the second quarter . . . Roughed up DT Derrick Gray in pass protection.

Packers

62-Rachal: Had some good plays, but there were some blemishes, too. . . Allowed QB pressure from Muir, who put good heat on Smith to lead to a third-down incompletion. . . . Missed a kick-out block on a 1-yard Clayton carry . . . Got low and opened the hole for Norris' 1-yard TD run . . . Got out front on screen pass to Clayton but he could not make the block on LB Abdul Hodge, who stopped the play for just 5 yards on third-and-8.

It's interesting how certain players will get a certain cache when it comes to the 53-man roster, simply because they were a draft pick.  Now I'm not jumping onto any sort of De La Puente bandwagon.  Rather I'm just intrigued by how this plays out for De La Puente.  Does he end up on the practice squad, our 53-man roster, or signing somewhere else with a chance to get some serious playing time?

According to Mike Sando, the NFC West divisional blogger at ESPN, the 49ers have kept an average of 9 offensive linemen in the three years of Mike Nolan.  Injury issues aside, the 49ers roster right now would probably include Joe Staley, Adam Snyder, Eric Heitmann, David Baas, Jonas Jennings, Tony Wragge, Chilo Rachal, Barry Sims and Cody Wallace.  Guys like Joe Toledo, Chris Patrick and John Booker are all training camp fodder.  So unless the 49ers decide to break camp with 10 offensive linemen, Brian De La Puente finds himself on the short end of the stick.

Due to the situation just described, I almost would prefer De La Puente get the start at left guard.  Chilo Rachal is not going anywhere and will get a chance to develop.  Since the starters are going into the third quarter (not sure where I read it, but I did read that somewhere), why not give De La Puente a chance to show what he can do?  An educated decision is certainly a better decision.  The first cut-down date is looming after this game and while I don't see De La Puente being in that first cut, it'd still be good to know what he's got.

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If de la Puente gets significant playing time with the #1’s this week, it would provide NFL teams with a decent amount of film to base their scouting reports of him on. In other words, if he plays a lot this week, another team may have the information to claim him off waivers (before he even reaches the practice squad) or even sign him to their own practice squad.

If I’m not mistaken, the players choose which practice squad they’d like to “play” for, no? They get released, clear the waiver-wire, and then sign onto a practice squad or a 53-man roster, right?

by sfgfan on Aug 20, 2008 9:09 AM PDT   0 recs

Practice Squad Rules

It’s strange, there’s a lot written about the rules governing practice squads, but I can’t seem to find the rules themselves, at least not from something resembling and official source (i.e. nfl.com). Rather, there’s one post from a Seattle News Tribune blog to which all the other search results refer. Here’s what that post has to say about practice squaders:

After noon EST on September 2nd, each club may establish a Practice Squad of no more than eight (8) players who are free agents […] a player under contract to a club as a Practice Squad player is completely free to sign a contract with another NFL club during the season in order to be on the second club’s Active/Inactive (i.e., 53 man) list. […] If another club signs a Practice Squad player to its 53 man roster […] it generally must keep the player on the 53 man roster for at least 3 weeks.

So another team can pick up a player from your practice squad without dealing with waivers (at least there’s no mention of waivers), but only if the player goes directly onto that other team’s 53-man roster and stays on their roster for at least 3 weeks.

With regard to de la Puente, it appears that he will be able to sign with any practice squad that is willing to accept him as of Sept 2. If he signs with the 9ers, another team can only steal him away if they put him on their 53. But bear in mind, this is all from an unofficial source.

by Nineraguan on Aug 20, 2008 11:10 AM PDT   0 recs

Waivers

I think you have to technically clear waivers before you are officially a “free agent.”

by sfgfan on Aug 20, 2008 11:17 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I see ... I think

So once the team makes it’s final roster cuts, everyone who’s been cut goes on the waiver wire?

by Nineraguan on Aug 20, 2008 11:23 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Practice Squad Rules

Not sure if this is helpful enough but when I did a practice squad projection back in early June (which happened to include De La Puente….but also Josh Morgan so I’m clearly an idiot), I pulled the rules from the CBA, located at the NFLPA’s website:

ARTICLE XXXIV

PRACTICE SQUADS

Section 1. Practice Squads:

(a) The League may elect in any League Year in accordance with this Article to establish practice squads not to exceed eight (8) players per Club. The League’s election in any one season shall not determine or affect its election in any subsequent season.

Section 4. Eligibility:

(a) The practice squad shall consist of the following players, provided that they have not served more than two previous seasons on a Practice Squad: (i) players who do not have an Accrued Season of NFL experience; and (ii) free agent players who were on the Active List for fewer than nine regular season games during their only Accrued Season(s). An otherwise eligible player may be a practice squad player for a third season only if the Club by which he is employed that season has at least 53 players on its Active/Inactive List during the entire period of his employment.

(b) A player shall be deemed to have served on a Practice Squad in a season if he has passed the club’s physical and been a member of the club’s Practice Squad for at least three regular season or postseason games during his first two Practice Squad seasons, and for at least one regular season or postseason game during his third Practice Squad season. (A bye week counts as a game provided that the player is not terminated until after the regular season or postseason weekend in question.)

ARTICLE XVIII

VETERANS WITH LESS THAN THREE ACCRUED SEASONS

Section 1. Accrued Seasons Calculation:

(a) For the purposes of calculating Accrued Seasons under this Agreement, a player shall receive one Accrued Season for each season during which he was on, or should have been on, full pay status for a total of six or more regular season games, but which, irrespective of the player’s pay status, shall not include games for which the player was on: (i) the Exempt Commissioner Permission List, (ii) the Reserve PUP List as a result of a nonfootball injury, or (iii) a Club’s Practice or Development Squad.

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by Fooch on Aug 20, 2008 5:50 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

As for Rachal

I’m an admittedly biased fan of Chile Rachal. But even as an objective observer, I disagree with both of Maiocco’s criticisms of Rachal’s play against the Packers.

Missed a kick-out block on a 1-yard Clayton carry

As I recall, it wasn’t Rachal’s man that made the tackle on this play – a DB came up to make the play on Clayton while Rachal was engaging the OLB.

Got out front on screen pass to Clayton but he could not make the block on LB Abdul Hodge

As I remember, Rachal was in the perfect place on that screen. Clayton, rather than staying behind his blocker, tried to run past Rachal and exposed himself to the tackler.

I think Rachal’s been playing phenomenally all pre-season. I, for one, expect to see him in the lineup tomorrow night.

by Nineraguan on Aug 20, 2008 11:22 AM PDT   0 recs

Hey Fooch, et al

Is there any way to edit a post after you’ve posted it and realized you made an embarrassing spelling mistake, like “Chile”?

by Nineraguan on Aug 20, 2008 11:25 AM PDT   0 recs

I think...

I think you can edit a FanPost or a front-page post, but I don’t think you can edit a comment.

by sfgfan on Aug 20, 2008 11:55 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Correct

Can’t edit a comment so all of our collective idiocy will live on forever (or until the internet dies).

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by Fooch on Aug 20, 2008 5:51 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

De la Puente to start for Snyder

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by StrictlyFootball on Aug 20, 2008 2:59 PM PDT   0 recs

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