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49ers officially name J.T. O'Sullivan the starting QB

In the least shocking announcement in recent memory, Mike Nolan officially named J.T. O'Sullivan the starting QB for the 49ers regular season opener against Arizona.

A month ago this would obviously have taken all of us by surprise.  J.T. O'Sullivan came into camp as the #3 and in fact seemed officially out of the competition early in camp.  Next thing you know, Shaun Hill has a tired shoulder and gets Wally Pipped out of the rotation.  Within a week O'Sullivan had surged past Alex Smith and never looked back.  He struggled in the first two preseason games, although we could see some improvement from Week 1 to Week 2.  Last night against the Bears he played a pretty perfect first quarter, finally locking down the starting position.

While this answers the question of the competition, the scrutiny is only beginning for O'Sullivan.  There is still a large contingent of Smith and Hill fans who will not hesitate in jumping all over O'Sullivan if he struggles early.  I mentioned in the recap post last night that O'Sullivan would have some ugly mistakes and have us all pulling our hair out at times.  However, I did notice that last night he minimized those.  There was no pass to the wide open defensive back, which is certainly a good thing.

Also, just noticed RogiSF2000's Fan Post and as I want to keep things within one post, I'm gonna clip some of his and post it here.  Also, he included a poll that I'll add in here as well (with the addition of a Shaun Hill vote option):

It is now official, both Maiocco and Barrows are now reporting that Nolan announced O'Sullivan as the starting QB. Its interesting that  one of the reporters asked him if Alex is considered a bust and Nolan shut him down by saying that he is improving everyday.

From what I read, it sounds to me that Nolan picked the best starting day QB but realizes that he needs Alex in there as the starter in order to keep his job. I wonder how Alex will respond and if he will demand a trade now. Through this whole summer I really wanted/believed that Alex be the starting QB come regular season, but after watching the Bears game, it is clear that O'Sullivan deserves being the started. My only concern is that he looked so much better because of all the first team action he was getting rather than talent. Regardless, I think a right choice was made, though I still hope Alex wins the job back.

So, now that we have an answer, it's game time.  Whether you're an O'Sullivan fan or not, this season is certainly looking a little more interesting than last year ended up.  I don't know how it's gonna end but I imagine it will be a wild ride.

Poll
Did Mike Nolan make the right call at QB?
Yes, O'Sullivan out perfomed Alex and should start
205 votes
No, Alex is the franchise QB and needs to be out there
59 votes
No, FREE SHAUN HILL!
20 votes
I don't care who is out there, as long as we win
101 votes

385 votes | Poll has closed

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Sorry Alex

I think Mark Schlereth of ESPN said it perfectly, “in this league, I’m with you Win or Tie”. JT I’m with you!!

J GO

by youngbuckeroo on Aug 22, 2008 4:04 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not a very fair poll

I don’t really care who’s out there as long as we win, but I do think O’Sullivan has earned the starting job. Put me down for A&D

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Aug 22, 2008 4:21 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good point

I’m curious how many people would prefer A & D. Personally, I like both but I went with D as that was my thought before JTO won the competition.

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by Fooch on Aug 22, 2008 6:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they realy didnt give Shaun Hill a chance, but I think i can climb aboard the JTO bandwagon.
i’m just so glad this dumb competition is over…I kinda felt like I was waiting on my girlfriend to decide what she was going to wear to dinner….

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by 49erLou on Aug 22, 2008 4:21 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just 5 more minutes

I’ll be right down…just a few more minutes… It’s like a guy saying, just 2 more minutes in a basketball game, which means 15 or 20.

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by Fooch on Aug 22, 2008 4:24 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here's how I see it...

At some point this year, we have to find out what we have in Alex Smith. Many people have already written him off as a career backup. Others still see a glimmer of hope. Either way, we HAVE to find out what we have in Alex before his contract inflates. So I see him as the starter at some point this year. Which is totally fine with me.

JTO starts until Smith gets a grip on the offense. Then Smith starts the rest of the year. Sorry Hill, but you gotta sit this year out. Then we can make the right move next offseason. Either dump Smith and move forward with JTO and HIll, or dump JTO and move forward with Smith and Hill. Hill will also get some more time to understand the offense and can be given a shot if both JTO and Smith fail.

I think I pulled my swagger muscle...

by BawLa on Aug 22, 2008 6:52 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At some point

You’d think Smith needs to be traded or cut. They are paying him a ridiculous amount of money, while O’Sullivan probably makes league minimum. If Martz’s mancrush pans out to be halfway decent, they have to give Smith das boot to free up cap space.

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by MrNFL on Aug 22, 2008 8:23 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Smith has his guaranteed money. It wouldn’t hurt the cap if we cut him.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 23, 2008 12:27 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I should have prefaced that with “I think.”

I’m pretty sure I got it right, though.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Aug 23, 2008 2:47 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A bit of a cap hit, not too bad

From MM:

Question: Can you confirm the salary cap ramifications of a trade of Alex Smith?

Instant 49ers: If Smith is traded or released, the 49ers would save money on the cap this season. After all his guaranteed money is figured into the equation, the club would save approximately $800,000 on the cap. Next year, he would count around $5.3M in “dead money.”

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by marcello on Aug 23, 2008 9:08 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

5.3M

Yeah, that’s not that bad of a hit, considering his figure if he weren’t cut would be close to 10M.

by sfgfan on Aug 23, 2008 2:01 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly

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by marcello on Aug 23, 2008 7:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JTO will go...

JTO, if he has a strong year, I think will be heading to another team come next year. The 49ers cannot renegotiate his contract till the start of free agency, and you better bet your bottom dollar that he will be heading for who ever is willing to pay the most. Also if the offense does do good this year, do you not think Martz will be offered a head coaching gig somewhere else in the league, and if he does leave you think he wouldn’t want to bring along his pet project JTO. This to me is a huge gamble. If JTO does do good and he leaves we are back to square one. Also if Martz leaves and JTO goes with, we are “stuck” with A. Smith again with our fifth offensive coordinator.

Next year will be our year! (copyright 2003*, been used each of last five years)

by StrictlyFootball on Aug 22, 2008 10:03 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Long Live...........

MURS for President!!!!!!!

by jtoj on Aug 23, 2008 1:32 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A few thoughts

Remember that the year Smith was drafted, the consensus among the experts was that it was a bad year to draft quarterbacks, especially when Matt Lienert decided to stay in USC. I just think expectations have been way too high for Smith. I think what we’ve seen over the years pretty much speaks for itself. But I think Hill was the one that really got shortchanged. I kept hoping to see him playing with the first team too in Chicago. Frankly, if it wasn’t for his end of the season success, I don’t think Nolan would have kept his job. But all things being equal, J.T. flat out won the job. I am excited to see this team moving the ball and getting in the end zone, something that we haven’t seen in years. I figured that with Mike Martz as offensive coordinator, things would certainly be exciting, but now I feel that this team will really compete. I’m 100% behind J.T. I just wish Hill was backing him up.

by Danny Boy on Aug 23, 2008 1:57 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ugh

What a mess. Seriously.

This year is a wash, as far as the QB position goes. And starting JTO is probably the worst thing for us in the long-term. As has been mentioned, it pretty much assures us that we’re back to square one after the season’s over.

Any sleeper QBs looking to go in next year’s draft? Someone we can pick up in the 5th/6th round and develop before Smith’s absurd contract runs out? Next year is where it’s at, man.

Gah…

by shlecko on Aug 23, 2008 7:02 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Again, Smith’s contract really isn’t an issue.

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by howtheyscored on Aug 23, 2008 9:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

eh?

How is it not an issue? Any way you look at it, it’s a huge issue, I’d say.

As much as we may like to cut Smith, it just doesn’t make sense. JTO likely won’t be back after the season – and if he is, it won’t be for the league minimum that he’s working for now. And with Shaun Hill’s contract just being renewed this past offseason, we’d have so much money thrown at the QB position (whether Smith’s cap figure is “dead money” or not) that we really can’t afford to go out and get anyone proven. That would leave us with the option of axing Smith for a nobody or staying “stuck” with him. It sucks, but holding on to him is probably the best thing we can do at this point, and doing that means dumping truckloads of money on the lawn of a guy who’s flirting with the Bust label.

And even if you look past the QB disaster we’ve got, the 49ers have a whole lot of contracts that will be going into their big money years in ‘10-13. Nate Clements, Jonas Jennings (assuming we keep him), Michael Lewis, Justin Smith… Those guys are going to carry huge cap figures in a couple years, and they’ll be absolving a lot of our potential spending money. Furthermore, that will be around the time that the contracts of guys like Veron Davis, Manny Lawson and Patrick Willis will be running out or in need of extensions.

Dude, we just don’t have the financial freedom to replace Alex Smith with anyone that we know won’t suck. The least of these evils is to ride it out and hope he gets his shit together. Either that, or pray that a 5th/6th round no-name comes in and surprises us. Neither are very enticing, but I’ve got more faith in a nameless potential miracle than AS…

It’s an issue, and it’s a mess.

by shlecko on Aug 24, 2008 7:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

time to move on

Alex Smith has not lived up to expectations or his paycheck under this regime. I do blame Nolan and the coaching change over, but the truth of the matter is that Alex Smith’s success is based on longevity in a system. I think the current situation is a mess because I don’t imagine JTO staying after one year, and we aren’t grooming anyone for the future in a specific system. In the long haul, JTO and Martz will leave if we are successful this year, or they will fired with Nolan if we are not. neither situation helps. At least the 49ers will have Shaun Hill as a journeyman qb at the end of the year to raise to a starter and hope he remains for one year.
  Lets plan on a qb next year, either Chase Danials, Dan LaFaur or Matt Stafford as the future qb.

by Gailikk on Aug 25, 2008 2:57 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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