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49ers Ownership: Time for questions?

I was going to open this morning with some preview stuff about the Seahawks.  However, on my way into school today I saw the cover of the San Francisco Chronicle and an an article by Nancy Gay titled, "On the NFL: Give the 49ers' and Raiders' owners an earful."

So, when I got to school I check out the article at sfgate.com and it left me with mixed emotions:

If you are sincerely disgusted with the state of your once-mighty franchise, be it the 49ers or the Raiders, then take action . . . Do something about it. Make the owners, whose teams opened the 2008 season with maddeningly predictable results, explain themselves to you.

First off, I don't think five ugly turnovers is the most predictable result, but I realize the point she is making.  The 49ers struggled in their opener, although they certainly weren't embarrassed quite like the Raiders on national tv.

Demand that John, Jed and Denise York get microphones, take hard questions and give honest answers about their football product, a 49ers team filled with high draft picks and big-money free agents who consistently fail to deliver . . .

[T]he Yorks turned over a football dynasty to a carnival barker, Terry Donahue, and a Stanford MBA with zero football background, Paraag Marathe. When it became obvious that Donahue had to go, the Yorks made an even more catastrophic mistake.

They turned over their football operation to one man, Mike Nolan, who had not been an NFL head coach and had zero front-office experience. When Nolan showed he was in over his head, the Yorks refused to fire him as head coach. Then they promoted Nolan's right-hand man and a college scout, Scot McCloughan, to general manager.

I don't think anybody will disagree that Terry Donahue was a joke.  As far as Mike Nolan is concerned, my thoughts are pretty simple.  He showed improvement from year 1 to year 2 as Alex Smith appeared to be moving in the right direction.  Ownership was willing to invest in a big time free agent like Nate Clements and hopes were high going into 2007. 

That season was obviously a disaster and I won't try and color it any other way.  Alex Smith regressed due to injury (and whatever other reasons), the offensive line was a mess and there some big communication problems.  However, I think ownership was correct in not firing Nolan.  He'd shown improvement the year before so I have absolutely no problem with him being back in 2008.  If the team starts off 0-5 or 0-6 or whatever, then it would certainly be reasonable to fire him.

As for the lack of firepower in this draft, I'm not 100% sure what to think yet.  There were guys like Quentin Groves and Limas Sweed the team might have been able to grab who might have been more immediate impact players.  However, even though this team struggled, I believe that many of the players in place after free agency and before the draft were not guys you'd expect to get beat out by rookies. 

A guy like Aubrayo Franklin certainly could have been and I really would have liked a huge nose tackle, as opposed to an apparent tweener type in Kentwan Balmer.  Outside linebacker was another spot for competition, but I think the team was high enough on Parys Haralson that they didn't want to grab a guy like Groves.  It's only been one game but Haralson has certainly stepped up so far.

So what do you think of what Nancy Gay has to say?  The Raiders are clearly a train wreck with Al Davis running things.  They've had coaching issues even after a decent first step by Lane Kiffin.  It's pretty easy to point out issues with the Raiders.  However, with the 49ers it's not quite as clear.  Stadium-issues aside, the Yorks have invested in personnel.  In reality I think is more a referendum on Mike Nolan than on the personnel side.  I think she's incorrect in her assessments of the 49ers draft picks.  The 49ers situation is not black and white, even with their struggles last year.

Nonetheless, I'd imagine with this topic people are strongly in one camp or another.

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Nancy Gay

I think my opinions about her writing have been mentioned in the past and I won’t touch on it again, really.

Like Fooch, I think that Nolan definitely deserved another shot. He was left in a bind last season, in terms of offensive coordinator options, and he went with an inexperienced guy in Hostler. While there were potentially other options out there (i.e. Tollner), keeping Hostler wasn’t a completely bad idea at the time of the announcement. It certainly didn’t inspire any excitement, but I don’t think it was news worth bemoaning at the time, either. Hostler talked a pretty big show at the time. He mentioned how he’d keep Turner’s offense going. He mentioned he’d involve Vernon and Delanie more. A big deal was made about how he, for the past few years, would create his own secret game plan before each game and evaluate how that may have come out after each game. He seemed like he could be ready to take the reins.

The miscommunication with Smith was a sad debacle where multiple sides were at fault, although I think Gay really thinks it’s all on Nolan. The doctors, Nolan, and Smith all had differing opinions on Smith. Doctors told Nolan he’s healthy enough to play, but to what extent was probably never disclosed. Smith said he could play. Of course Nolan would want his best QB out there at the time. If you’re being told someone is healthy, and you’re not a doctor, you can’t really say otherwise until they say otherwise. Anyway, that’s pretty much all water under the bridge because it seems like they’ve patched things up since.

Hiring an inexperienced head coach is nothing unusual. To give him power over personnel, maybe that was a little unusual, but he hired a well-regarded scout to be his right-hand man. I don’t think that the drafts have been bad, but the final verdicts are definitely still up in the air. The only definite good things to come out of the five first round picks the 49ers (not counting Balmer this year) are Willis and Staley. Manny Lawson and Vernon Davis are very much still up in the air and it seems that Smith’s time as a 49er is pretty much over.

Long story short, I don’t think ownership has to explain anything to anyone. They made, at least, a pretty okay choice in bringing in Nolan as a coach, as he definitely has improved the entire team (front-office, structure, and personnel). They’ve opened up their checkbook that was once said to be glued shut with Loctite. Most important of all, they stepped aside and stopped meddling in the football side of things, which is something that they have very little understanding of.

With all that said, it’s kind of hard to directly blame Nolan for the lack of results, though. Sure, he’s made a few mistakes as a head coach, and we all know what those have been. However, I think the lack of results on the field don’t necessarily have to do with him at all. If we notice, the defense has looked okay to good (except this past weekend, they couldn’t stop anyone for the life of them). The special teams is pretty good. The personnel for those two units have produced some sort of results probably because they are the most stable units in terms of coaching. The defensive coordinators have changed, but in the end, it’s still Nolan’s defense that is being run. The offensive talent hasn’t translated into success because the person heading the offense has been inconsistent. Nolan has put some good coaches in that position to call plays (i.e. McCarthy, Turner, and now possibly Martz). He couldn’t predict that an inexperienced coordinator would get a head coaching gig. He couldn’t predict a coordinator everyone thought was washed up as a head coach would get a new head coaching gig. I think the biggest part of this team’s failure has to do with that revolving door at offensive coordinator, and I find it really hard to blame Nolan for all of that.

With all that said though, I would totally understand an overhaul of the coaching staff after this season if the 49ers continue to flail. What constitutes “flailing?” I think if the team goes 7-9 or 8-8, Nolan should stay on for the final year of his contract (without an extension). I think that if the team doesn’t reach 7-9, though, Nolan should be sent packing and the ownership (and McCloughan) should take their chances with a new staff.

by sfgfan on Sep 10, 2008 10:23 AM PDT   0 recs

Wow.

I pulled a howtheyscored with that comment. Wayyy long.

I hope it all makes some kind of sense, though.

by sfgfan on Sep 10, 2008 10:24 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

A few things I wanted to touch on
I think my opinions about her writing have been mentioned in the past and I won’t touch on it again, really.

I’ll touch on it. She’s a horrible, horrible sports writer. You or Fooch should have her job, IMHO.

He couldn’t predict a coordinator everyone thought was washed up as a head coach would get a new head coaching gig.

I’m stil shocked he got another head coaching job. I’m also just as surprised that he accepted it. I thought for sure he’d figured out he wasn’t HC material and was going to be fine with that. I was almost positive we had Turner locked up for years to come.

I also agree with most everything you said about ownership. I think they came in not knowing what the hell to do, but I think the one thing they did wrong was, they should have hired a GM first. Without a doubt, I believe that should have been the first move they made, then let the GM hire the coach. I think Nolan was an excellent choice at the time, his credentials were impeccable, he was extremely well regarded, and it was a well received choice across the NFL that he was hired. But the structure at the top should have been implemented first. Whether or not that’s what’s caused this team to not improve, I don’t know. That’s just the only thing I think they should have done differently. Too many people still want to blame ownership for the team, but I think you’re right that they were right in keeping Nolan, and they don’t appear to be meddling anymore. That’s good news. And that’s all I got at this time.

"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler

by JRPhillips on Sep 10, 2008 11:59 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

GM First

I think that you’re right in saying that a team (or in this case, the 49ers) should have maybe found a GM and let the GM find the coach. I think that’s the most conventional, and the cleanest, way of deflecting any football-related decisions away from the ownership. While I agree, I also think the Yorks may have been a little gun shy about finding another GM.

If you recall (because for some reason, I do), Bill Walsh hand picked Terry Donahue as the 49ers next GM. Walsh was a special adviser to the 49ers at the time, I think, and his suggestion/endorsement was probably welcomed with open arms because of his stature with the team and the league in general. While it’s hard to say whether or not Donahue spearheaded the hiring of Erickson, he was probably a big factor in even considering him. Needless to say, Donahue/Erickson didn’t work out very well. Of course, that shouldn’t have made them a little wary about appointing another GM first, it’s certainly an understandable mistake from a couple/group that are known as business people and not football people. The appointing of Scot McCloughan as the GM is another positive step the Yorks have taken to becoming removed from the football side of things. That way, if they (or McCloughan) are forced to fire Nolan, the next search will be entirely on McCloughan, someone who knows football to some degree.

by sfgfan on Sep 10, 2008 1:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

My quick thoughts about coaching

My first memory is watching a 49er game in my dad’s lap. This is my first comment on the Niners Nation, however I have been reading this blog daily for over a year. Great job Fooch!!

LET’S PATIENTLY WAIT 2 YEARS TO FIX THIS SHIP.

Here’s what I’m doing.
1. Invest in my local brewery (Because I will be needing to numb myself out for 2 MORE years). I will always be a diehard 49ers fan but right now I’m a fan of certain players around the league to keep my hopes up.

2. Let Nolan and Martz squander this team and just go away after this season. ‘08 is over. It’s a 4-ring circus right now.

3. For ‘09- After Norv gets fired this season for not winning a SuperBowl, we’ll be glad to bring him back as an OC and sign him for 3 years or more.

4. Promote Singletary to DC or HC. Any other coaching movement isn’t worth the time because McLAUGHlin will make some more bad coaching moves for ’09.

5. For 2010, Jed will get rid of McLAUGHlin and the Yorks can claim to know what they’re actually doing now. Holmgren will accept the job to bring back the team that boosted his career so he can retire even happier. He will come back from a year break in Hawaii and be fresh to take the GM position by the reigns. He will keep Norv and Singletary and get real talent for the other positions.

6. Then I will use my beer stocks to.. drink more beer, but in celebration of W’s instead of L’s.

by TripTheNinja on Sep 10, 2008 2:14 PM PDT   0 recs

Welcome to Niner Nation

Alright, enough pleasantries! =)

From the mess you’re describing, I think any self-respecting coach would think twice before accepting an offer to be a GM of a trainwreck of an institution like that! Holmgren will think about it initially. Then he’ll think twice, but the second thought won’t be, “Should I take the job?” It will be, “How should I laugh at the Yorks for their offer?”

"He called the sh** POOP!" -- Adam Sandler

by JRPhillips on Sep 10, 2008 3:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Way to steal my thunder :)

Thanks for the welcome, it’s good to actually be a member.

"We'd like to think that tickets will be hard to come by." Bill Walsh

by TripTheNinja on Sep 10, 2008 4:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think Nancy Gay has no idea what she’s is talking about and I think it’s still Week 1 and last time I checked there were alot more games left to play so seriously all is not lost after just 1 loss.

Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal

by 49erLou on Sep 10, 2008 4:08 PM PDT   0 recs

She must be a Raider fan...

She’s so upset about the Raiders she’s trying to drag 49ers fans down, too!

In all seriousness, if the 49ers can prove that last weekend’s tour de turnovers was just an anomoly (I’m not expecting perfect games, but 5 turnovers is a bit ridiculous), there COULD be a little light at the end of the tunnel. It HAS to start with that and with beating the Seahawks on Sunday.

by sfgfan on Sep 10, 2008 4:22 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

another Raider conspiracy... hmm.. Is she on their payroll?

"We'd like to think that tickets will be hard to come by." Bill Walsh

by TripTheNinja on Sep 10, 2008 6:47 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

High priced free agents that havent performed?

Huh?

The one thing I dont understand is the criticism of Nolan’s personnel moves, which is why his loss of power in that regard makes no sense to me. That’s the one area where he’s been successful.

Quality players acquired under Nolan: Larry Allen, Nate Clements, Jonas Jennings, Walt Harris, Michael Lewis, Justin Smith, Marques Douglas, Joe Nedney

Disappointing players acquired under Nolan: Antonio Bryant, Ashley Lelie, Darrell Jackson, Aubrayo Franklin, Tully Banta-Cain

That’s a pretty damn good track record. The rule simply seems to be, dont let him sign wide receivers. Not to mention the drafting of players like Gore, Willis, VD, Lawson, Baas, Snyder, and Staley. His only real busts in the draft were Smith and Brandon Williams.

Even the Smith pick is understandable. The Niners happened to have to 1st pick in the worst 1st round in recent memory. This is like the year the Warriors had the 1st pick and took Joe Smith. There was no one else to take! The year before, we’d have had Eli Manning. The year after, Mario Williams. There was no clear cut #1 overall pick in 2005. Who came out of that first round that was worth anything? Demarcus Ware, Shawne Merriman, Luis Castillo, Braylon Edwards, and ?. That’s 4 players out of 32 that are star caliber. And I dont think you can argue that they should have traded the pick when its a pick that nobody wanted. No one wanted to pay first overall money to anyone in that draft. The Yorks were also under a lot of pressure to draft a QB at the time because the fans and media felt that any other position drafted would have supported their cheapskate reputation. That’s not a good reason to draft anyone, but it was a factor nonetheless.

Look at the team Nolan inherited. Terry “Antichrist” Donahue left him with BY, Justin Smiley, Arnaz Battle, Andy Lee, Eric Heitmann, and no one else worth a crap. And, oh yeah, we were still in salary cap hell.

To expect anything more out of Nolan personnel wise is unrealistic and foolish beyond description. Given the state of the team he inherited compared to what it is now, he’s been successful. Nolan’s players are not the reason we havent posted a winning record during his tenure.

"May our feet be swift. May our bats be mighty. And may our balls be...plentiful."

by nothinlikethetown on Sep 11, 2008 6:54 PM PDT   0 recs

Nolan and personnel

While I agree with your assessment that he doesn’t deserve ALL of the harsh criticism he’s received on personnel moves, some of that criticism DOES have merit.

Jonas Jennings is a GOOD tackle. He’s not VERY good, but he’s definitely a starting LT in this league. The problem is, how many games can he start for you? Nolan’s seemed to get pissy about Jennings’ injuries and apparent lack of toughness, but he should have known all of this was a possibility when he signed a player who hasn’t started a full 16-game season in his career. Basically, I think that even though he’s shown good when he plays, he’s totally unreliable as a starter and should be placed into the “disappointing players” category.

Aside from Frank Gore, Patrick Willis, and MAYBE Joe Staley, the draft picks you mentioned are all STILL very much on the bubble. Lawson still hasn’t developed into the pass-rusher OR the multi-talented player that the team was expecting him to become. Baas and Snyder are both, essentially, backups for most other NFL teams. Davis still hasn’t proven a whole lot, either.

I don’t think the Yorks stripped Nolan’s personnel powers because he has failed so miserably at it. As you pointed out, there’s more talent on this team than there was in the Donahue/Erickson regime, and it’s only been four offseasons. I think that the reason the 49ers made Scot McCloughan the GM is because the Yorks wanted to get the ball rolling on a front-office hierarchy IN CASE they had to fire Nolan after this season. Scot McCloughan became the GM, not just evaluate talent, but (I think) also to become the person to choose the next head coach for this team (if it comes to that).

by sfgfan on Sep 12, 2008 9:03 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

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