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49ers-Saints: What does this game mean to the 49ers?

My new favorite phrase is that "I know the 49ers are not bad, but I don't quite know yet if they are good (or how good I suppose)."  The team is 2-1 with an improved offense, but the two wins came against a god-awful Lions team and a beaten down Seahawks team.

That has led to an increased discussion of how much this Sunday's game means or doesn't mean in the grand scheme of things.  If I'm just thinking in terms of overall wins and losses and a more number oriented approach, I'd think any win is a good win.  If 9-7 could get this team into the playoffs (a very real possibility), does it really matter which 9 games you win?  Of course not.

On the other side of the coin is the idea of momentum.  The 49ers have won two straight and a win at New Orleans would give them some incredible momentum (as well as their first 3-game winning streak since 2006).  Considering the opponents following this weekend, we could use all the momentum we can get.

So, with that in mind, I thought I'd throw out some reasons why this game is not any bigger than any other, and why it's the biggest in some time.  While there are various tweaks on the arguments, for the most part people seem to fall in one of the two camps.

Why this game is not more important than any other game
1. The Saints are banged up like the Seahawks were so we're getting them at a lucky time.  They'll be missing Shockey, Colston and possibly Patten among others (to be discussed more later today).  We can't claim any sort of great win against a team playing short-handed.

2. As previously stated, a win is a win is a win and each game is as important as the next (insert any other cliches here that you would like).

3. Even if a win leads to more national press coverage as mentioned below, who cares what the national media thinks.

Why this game is more significant than most
1. A road win at a usually popular Saints team would give the 49ers some serious national credibility.  For now, people see the 49ers as 2-1 and think they're the cute little upstart that will fade into Bolivia (to quote Mike Tyson).  However, a win at New Orleans though and the national critics are suddenly hopping on OUR bandwagon.

2. The team has struggled mightily in the recent past against the Saints and particularly Reggie Bush.  If they can get over this hump, it's reasonable to think they could gain even more confidence.  This goes to the momentum argument in the boost the team could take from such a win.

3. No matter who they roll out their on offense, the Saints will provide a stern test for the 49ers defense thanks to Reggie Bush and Drew Brees.  The defense showed some solid improvements against the Lions in shutting down their passing game.  Reggie Bush presents a unique threat, and if they can shut him down, all the more respect.

Where do I fit in this whole paradigm?  Shockingly enough, somewhere in the middle, although leaning towards the importance of this particular game.  While I try not to get too high over a single game, I am a big believer in momentum.  While momentum doesn't win football games, I think the confidence from that momentum can help.  A 3-1 49ers team that is 2-0 on the road suddenly thinks, "Hey, we won at one of the toughest road trips in the league (Seattle), we shut down one of the best receiving duos and we beat the all-world Reggie Bush...there ain't nothing that can stop us."

So maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration, but hopefully you get the point.  Aside from momentum, 3-1 is certainly a lot better than 2-2.  Given the stretch of schedule they've got coming up before the bye week, the 49ers certainly need every win they can get.

So where do you fall?  Is this a huge game for the 49ers or just another tough game they would love to win?  One reason I don't like getting too high about one game is that if they lose, and particularly if they lose big, it can be a crushing blow.  However, I do think it is reasonable to anticipate this particular game more than you might normally anticipate a game.

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I'll tell myself all week that..

Its just another game. Lets go out and do all we can. Then a few days later its something along the lines of “Oh man.. Oh man we have to beat these guys.. HAVE TO.” Then on game day its “Ugh if we lose I quit. I’m done. Whatever.” Regardless of the outcome I lather, rinse, and repeat come the next week.

Outside of my delirium, this wont be TOO bad if we lose since its so early on, but it can, at the same time, be VERY good to win, so in that capacity, it can be very deflating to lose that kind of momentum, but…. well I’m just going in circles.

Lets just say I’m really, really hoping to win this game and give J.T. and the boys some confidence to put the hurt on New England the next week.

by Ninjames on Sep 25, 2008 5:28 AM PDT   0 recs

Important (if you care what people think)

I know that outside us Niner fans, nobody really thinks that the team is any good. I still get those laughs and smirks when I tell people out here which team I root for. We’re still known as a doormat team, one who probably wont win more than 5 or 6 games, so I feel this game will do a lot to erase the stigma that we’re a below average team.

We are definitely much better than we have been in the past. And while I’m not going as far as to say we’re a playoff team as of yet, a win in NO would really help erase some of that feeling that we’re a bad team who are playing bad teams. A 3-1 record going into a game against a hurting New England team would also give us a ton of confidence that could be enough to pull that one out. Just show us something here…

by JerseyNinerFan on Sep 25, 2008 5:53 AM PDT   0 recs

pretty big game...

This team needs to be at least 4-4 before the bye if they want to have a shot at the playoffs. The winnable games are NO, NE, and Seattle at home while NYG and Philly will be real tough. Going 2-3 over these next 5 games will be okay, anything worse then that is a blow to our chances, anything better and the Niners will be in the drivers seat and in a great position. Winning this game will take some of the pressure off of the next 4 games. Arizona has a tough 2nd half of the year, and Seattle has a more brutal stretch of games coming up then we do. First 5 games after their bye this week (@NYG, Green Bay, @tampa bay, @SF, Philly).

"Jesus was a community organizer. Pontius Pilate was a governor"

by enut21 on Sep 25, 2008 6:45 AM PDT   0 recs

it's sorta big and it will tell us a lot

I think the importance of this game is more in what we’ll find out about the team. If they win we can say that they are a team with a chance. Even with injuries, NO is a decent team and it’s always hard to win on the road. So a win says the Niners have something real. A loss doesn’t necessarily mean much. I think that’s the attitude the team should have after this game, if they lose they need to think tht they lost to a good team on the road, which isn’t that bad. If they win they need to think they beat a good team on the road, which is great.

Try to focus on the positive I guess.

Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

by wjackalope on Sep 25, 2008 8:26 AM PDT   0 recs

Agreed

I think this team can totally thrive with the underdog mentality. Low expectations for the team means lowered pressure. They can set out to prove the pundits wrong. That sort of mindset can make a team dangerous.

That being said, I still don’t have high expectations. This season has been a pleasant surprise thus far. I’d love to see it continue, but I wouldn’t be surprised or devastated if they began to collapse. Sigh Such is the mindset of a fan during rebuilding seasons…

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by Exhibit G on Sep 25, 2008 9:49 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

pretty big

I think it’s a pretty big game, although I am no more nervous or excited or whatever then usual. I think a win would do wonders for the confidence of this team especially going into a tough game against the Patriots, who will no doubt be prepared for JT. If JT can go into NO and have a good outing and show the type of improvements we’ve seen week to week, that matchup with NE becomes much more interesting. I don’t necessarily think that a loss will put the team in a downward spiral or mean all hope is lost. Either way it’s probably going to be a pretty good game.

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by 49erLou on Sep 25, 2008 8:44 AM PDT   0 recs

Call it cliche...

… but I think every game is important for this team. The way I see it, the team needs a win every week, regardless of how the rest of the division is playing. For example, if they’re playing against a banged up team, they had better pull out a win, as a loss would be devastating. If they’re playing against a good team, a win would provide the entire team with a confidence boost (as Fooch describes it) that could help propel them into the next good team.

Sounds kind of corny, I know. Heck, if it even falls in line with Mike Nolan’s “one day at a time” mantra he’s been pumping this year, and I know how many of you feel about Mike Nolan and his mantras. Cliche or not, every game is big. Even if they’re playing the lowly Rams in a few weeks.

by sfgfan on Sep 25, 2008 9:17 AM PDT   0 recs

I think what is critical about this game

is that it’s a winnable game. The Niners schedule is not easy (other than 2 games vs. the Rams) and while the jury is out on exactly HOW Good a team we have, it would be a stretch to call us a good team by any means.

I do think they have an outside shot to make the playoffs, but they are going to have to beat the Saints, and teams like them to do it.

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by zenbitz on Sep 25, 2008 10:46 AM PDT   0 recs

Of course a win would be good

But if it’s a close game that we lose- that could be fine- As long as this team has confidence that it can play with anyone- This Saints team is still a playoff contender despite its rough start. This game is more important to the Saints than the 49ers, but as long as we play well- i think the confidence will stay.

by albertoleecho on Sep 25, 2008 10:47 AM PDT   0 recs

Big game? Maybe. Big opportunity? Yes!

I’d say it’s a critical time to draw the Saints as an opponent. Banged up or not, the ‘a win is a win is a win’ thing is absolutely true when it comes to a playoff spot. If that’s where this team is hoping to head, this game could swing things either way. I could care less about the media hype (less may be better, since we all know how well that worked out for the team last year).
If only the schedulers had put StL on the Niners plate after the bye week, I’d feel pretty good about things; the last 3 years they’ve lost badly (17-52 @ Was, 10-41 @ Chi, and 15-33 @ NYG) coming out of the bye week, so that @ Arizona game is looming.

by grantmp on Sep 25, 2008 5:12 PM PDT   0 recs

This is the kind of game a playoff team needs to win.

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by groug on Sep 25, 2008 5:41 PM PDT   0 recs

VERY BIG

I do not put my all into 1 game either…but! This game really is that big. I know it’s early but this game is the most important game of the 1st half of the season for the our 9ers. i break it in half. The most important game of the 2nd half eventhough im early on this would be a toss up between Arizona and Dallas(with good reason, we all hate dallas and that would be the biggest boost to the 9ers to win that game). Back to the Saints game. This game will show just how good the defense is. The Saints offense is one of the best no matter who is hurt. This defensive talent is very high and I feel this is the most talented defense that Martz has ever had to back up his offense. Every Martz offense will score points we know that. It all depends on how well the defense plays. If this defense can shut down the Saints, then the Eagles/ Giants games coming up may be more winnable than everyone thinks. They need to keep Brees in check and punch bush in the mouth. HARD! This game is HUGE!

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Sep 26, 2008 9:29 AM PDT   0 recs

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