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49ers vs. Arizona Cardinals: It's gametime

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Arizona Cardinals @ San Francisco 49ers


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Date: September 7, 2008
Time: 1:15pm PST
Location: Bill Walsh Field @ Candlestick Park, San Francisco, CA
Records (2007): 49ers (5-11) Cardinals (8-8)
Bodoglife.com Spread: 49ers +3; Over/Under 42; Money Line: 49ers +115, Cardinals -135 - It's officially alright to start betting on football.
Weather: 76 degrees, 10% chance of showers, wind W 8 mph
TV Broadcast: Fox - Sam Rosen, Tim Ryan, Chris Myers
Radio: 107.7 The Bone, 680/1050 KNBR - Joe Starkey, Gary Plummer, Rod Brooks
Spanish Radio: KIQI 1010-AM, KATD 990-AM - Fernando Arias and Ambrosio Rico
Cardinals Coverage: Revenge of the Birds

Injuries
49ers: Probable - DT Aubrayo Franklin, OLB Parys Haralson, SS Michael Lewis, TE Delanie Walker; Doubtful - QB Alex Smith

Cardinals: Probable - TE Ben Patrick, OT Mike Gandy; Questionable - TE Jerame Tuman; Doubtful - DT Gabe Watson, DT Alan Branch; Out - C Al Johnson (placed on IT)

Inactives (Updated 12:15pm)
49ers: QB Alex Smith, CB Marcus Hudson, CB Tarell Brown, CB Reggie Smith, C Cody Wallace, LB Tully Banta-Cain, G Chilo Rachal, LB Ahmad Brooks

Cardinals: QB Brian St. Pierre, RB J.J. Arrington, T Brandon Keith, DT Alan Branch, WR Early Doucet, TE Jerame Tuman, DT Gabe Watson

First off, I thought I'd get this opened up now so people can discuss both the 49ers-Cardinals match-up and the morning games.  If the thread gets filled with pre-game commentary I might open up a separate thread for earlier games next week.  For now we'll play it by ear.

More importantly, after months of waiting and months of analysis on everything under the sun, it's finally game day.  The national media continues to consider the 49ers a joke.  Out here there are plenty of questions we've been hoping to get answered.  Will Mike Martz and J.T. O'Sullivan be the answer to what ails the offense?  Will Bamm Bamm continue his rise to greatness?  How long will Mike Nolan last?  Starting today we'll finally begin to get some answers.  Good or bad, answers are answers.

For the lurkers out there who would like to discuss the game, either click on "Sign Up" on the top left side of the front page or follow the directions at the bottom of the comments section of the thread.  Whether you're just cruising through or are a long time reader, everybody is welcome.

Future open threads will include some more last minute analysis, but for this one, let's just enjoy the beginning of another NFL season.

And if you're still trying to find a sports bar, it sounds like some folks will be heading to Aces on Sutter and Hyde.  Hopefully people will keep using the sports bar thread to find places in SF and around the world to watch the 49ers.

GO NINERS!

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Im psyched

get it on!

"I think I was the best player I ever saw"
Willie Mays, you ain't kidding

by CB30 on Sep 7, 2008 9:55 AM PDT   0 recs

Finally!

I can’t think of a better team than the Cardinals to start off the JTO era. While they do have some playmakers on defense, we have actually been able to put some points up on the board against these guys the past couple years. I feel like we have a good shot in the game but I don’t how much of that is because of us or the fact that we’re playing AZ.
 
I guess I’m going to have to watch Favre for the next three hours..

by baybruin415 on Sep 7, 2008 9:57 AM PDT   0 recs

morning game - Desean

I was going to but with Desean Jackson getting the start at wide receiver I’m going with the Rams and Eagles on Fox, at least initially.

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by Fooch on Sep 7, 2008 9:59 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

I will definitely be switching between the two once the endless beer commercial parade starts. Hopefully the Eagles can put a whooping on the Rams, which I think they will.

by baybruin415 on Sep 7, 2008 10:04 AM PDT   0 recs

wait what?

What’s wrong with Alex Smith, for him to be listed as Doubtful?

Sprained Ego?
Broken Confidence?

But seriously, I didn’t know he was injured. o.o

by shlecko on Sep 7, 2008 10:16 AM PDT   0 recs

Supposedly broke a piece of bone off his shoulder.

by DesertFox on Sep 7, 2008 10:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

injury settlement incoming?

Cheaper than dead cap money from cutting him.

Here’s hoping it gets worse!

by shlecko on Sep 7, 2008 10:59 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Anyone know a good streaming site?

Otherwise I’m stuck with the DAL-CLE game.

by TexanNiner on Sep 7, 2008 10:45 AM PDT   0 recs

if it makes you feel any better...

I’m sure most of us will be offering to trade you games by halftime

by shlecko on Sep 7, 2008 10:58 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Justin.tv

When the first preseason game was blacked out I watched it on Justin.tv. They’ve had a lot of video on there. Probably worth checking out.

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by Fooch on Sep 7, 2008 11:05 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

You just made my day, thanks!

by TexanNiner on Sep 7, 2008 12:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Rams

Rams certainly dont look like anything special

maybe a chance we can beat them?

by Vote4Gore on Sep 7, 2008 11:03 AM PDT   0 recs

They have looked horrendous offensively and defensively. For all the weapons they have on offense, it just goes to show that nothing can be done with a garbage O-Line.

by baybruin415 on Sep 7, 2008 11:13 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

HO. LEE. SHIT.

Tell me you guys just saw Stephen Jackson get JACKED UP.

by shlecko on Sep 7, 2008 11:14 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

by sheldon brown?

he got rocked, then got up and celebrated

i dont know whose tougher after that play

by Vote4Gore on Sep 7, 2008 11:21 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

helmet

And then when he was handed his helmet he threw it to the ground. I’ve always been a Steven Jackson fan and I’m not sure why. I’ll give him the toughness award on that one.

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by Fooch on Sep 7, 2008 11:28 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Jackson

When he was drafted, he was like the a Vernon Davis type of running back, wasn’t he? Ridiculous physical specimen with all kinds of power and speed. That combination for a running back is hard NOT to like.

by sfgfan on Sep 7, 2008 11:32 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The NFC West

The Rams are getting pounded by the Eagles. I don’t know what’s going on up in Buffalo but the Seahawks are losing 14-0 in the second quarter. By game time at the Stick the Cards and Niners could be playing for division lead. Make that 14-7.

Any thought to who the Niners will get for their third quarterback?

Make that 21-0, Eagles.

by Bob On The Coast on Sep 7, 2008 11:24 AM PDT   0 recs

well

It depends on the severity of Smith’s injury.

Remember, we’ve got Arnaz Battle and Michael Robinson on the roster – both can serve as emergency QBs. This early in the year, I’m not sure that you want to mess with your 53 man roster.

by shlecko on Sep 7, 2008 11:26 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

If I'm not mistaken

Robinson was the emergency QB a couple of times last season. Of course, I could be wrong.

by sfgfan on Sep 7, 2008 11:31 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

QBs

I’d imagine we’ll figure out sometime this week the extent of Smith’s injury in terms of time out of uniform. Robinson is the emergency QB today and of course they also have Battle. I remember the Patriots used to use punter Tom Tupa as their #3 every single week. At the same time, I’d rather have an actual QB back there. Maybe bring back Kyle Wright since he at least got to check out the playbook for a couple weeks?

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by Fooch on Sep 7, 2008 11:32 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

A broken bone in the shoulder

Maiocco and Barrows are both saying that it’s a broken bone in the shoulder. It’s probably going to require surgery and pins. I don’t suspect that we’ll see Smith in uniform for the rest of the year, if that’s the case, but I’ll defer to the doctors. If true it means that they’ll have to get someone in for number three. I heard that Wright had a very strong arm.

I think Tupa played a lot of quarterback in college. I seem to remember him playing quarterback for someone. Atlanta? Speaking of Pats’ QBs, Brady went out with an injury. Looked like a knee.

by Bob On The Coast on Sep 7, 2008 11:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Andre Woodson

the guy was pretty good in college, a training camp cut of the giants, apparently stunk during camp, but he does have alot of physical talent, and we can sign him off the giants practice squad

wouldnt hurt to see if you can find a diamon in the rough, which would mean we arguably could have three (we got hill out of nowhere, and same with JTO)

by Vote4Gore on Sep 7, 2008 11:51 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Woodson

At one point people were projecting him in the first round as one of the first 2 or 3 QBs selected. He put up great numbers all season long and then things quickly went south in the offseason, particularly I believe at the Senior Bowl and in working out. I wouldn’t mind grabbing him. He was signed by the Giants to their practice squad but the 49ers could grab him as long as they keep him on their 53-man (which would obviously happen with Smith’s injury).

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by Fooch on Sep 7, 2008 11:57 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm surprised...

… the 49ers didn’t keep a QB on the practice squad.

by sfgfan on Sep 7, 2008 12:07 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Brady

Interesting, very interesting.

by Bitter Fan on Sep 7, 2008 12:00 PM PDT   0 recs

Rams' DBs

Either the Ram’s defensive scheme sucks, or their DBs are really bad. Maybe it’s both?

by sfgfan on Sep 7, 2008 12:07 PM PDT   0 recs

Most of their slips have been blown coverages – the coaching/playcalling was there, but the secondary haven’t been taking care of their assignments. I’d say most of the blame should fall into the hands of the DBs.

by shlecko on Sep 7, 2008 12:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Makes sense.

What a day Jackson is having. I wonder if he could sustain anything remotely resembling this week in and week out.

by sfgfan on Sep 7, 2008 12:18 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Inactives for the game

QB Alex Smith
CB Marcus Hudson
CB Tarell Brown
CB Reggie Smith
C Cody Wallace
LB Tully Banta-Cain
G Chilo Rachal
LB Ahmad Brooks

I’m a little surprised TBC is inactive over Roderick Green.

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by Fooch on Sep 7, 2008 12:13 PM PDT   0 recs

Surprised

I am as well. If you think about it though, they kind of already have a TBC in Parys Haralson: someone who has potential pass-rush skills and can kind-of-sort-of drop back into coverage. Green, I think, is viewed by the team as probably their best pure pass-rusher, so I guess you can kind of make sense out of it all.

by sfgfan on Sep 7, 2008 12:29 PM PDT   0 recs

Bah

reply fail.

by sfgfan on Sep 7, 2008 12:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

I think the point of starting Parys over TBC is that he’s actually got better coverage skills. TBC as a pass rusher is more of a strength kind of guy…he hits hard, and has the power to slap away tackles in pass rush situation. He’s just not exceptionally fast or agile.

Haralson can use his quickness to rush the edge, and Green is a cheaper, younger option for a power OLB in rush situations. Shouldn’t be surprising at all to see the Niners keep TBC out of the lineup.

by shlecko on Sep 7, 2008 12:41 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Awesome fake against Seattle

I would love to see the Seahawks go down. The NFC West is unpredictable enough to be wide open.

Young to Rice. Touchdown.

by Call It The Throw on Sep 7, 2008 12:29 PM PDT   0 recs

Buffalo

I’m high on the Bills this season. Trent Edwards has enough weapons around him to look ok at times which is all they really need. I’m not saying they’ll dethrone the Patriots, but I think they’ll be challenging for a playoff spot.

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by Fooch on Sep 7, 2008 12:33 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

que el f***?

Either game center is busted, or Edwards is out of the game for some reason…Why is Punter Brian Moorman heading the ship in Buffalo?

by shlecko on Sep 7, 2008 12:45 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

fake field goal

Moorman is the holder and they ran a fake field goal.

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by Fooch on Sep 7, 2008 12:48 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

The Seahawks can't run today

I don’t think that they’re over forty yards the last time I looked.

by Bob On The Coast on Sep 7, 2008 12:35 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Run

I think that’s going to be one of their biggest bug-a-boos this season.

by sfgfan on Sep 7, 2008 12:40 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

That...

and the fact that all their receivers are hurt. The tide is turning…

Young to Rice. Touchdown.

by Call It The Throw on Sep 7, 2008 12:49 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Julius jones

Jones is not the answer for them…Nor is a Jones/Morris platoon. I’m not feeling that at all

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by Fooch on Sep 7, 2008 12:49 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Season is about to start...

The West is wide open, great opportunity to make a statement by pounding the Cardinals.

5 minutes to game time. My optimism has not been crushed yet. Go Niners.

Young to Rice. Touchdown.

by Call It The Throw on Sep 7, 2008 1:12 PM PDT   0 recs

commentators?

are these guys supposed to be any good? i’m guessing they are the 3 team, which isnt to unexciting.

by Vote4Gore on Sep 7, 2008 1:14 PM PDT   0 recs

Myers

It’s odd b/c isn’t Myers one of the guys that is usually with the top teams on the sideline?

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by Fooch on Sep 7, 2008 1:16 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

3 and out

familiar so far

by Vote4Gore on Sep 7, 2008 1:19 PM PDT   0 recs

and a nice little penalty...

Come on D!

Young to Rice. Touchdown.

by Call It The Throw on Sep 7, 2008 1:20 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

3 and out?

RELEASE EVERYONE. SHAUN HILL FOR QUARTERBACK.

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.

by groug on Sep 7, 2008 1:20 PM PDT   0 recs

regional coverage sucks

Ahh too bad im stuck watching the Cleveland – Cowgirls game. I need NFL Sunday Ticket….GO! NINERS!!

Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal

by 49erLou on Sep 7, 2008 1:21 PM PDT   0 recs

great special teams.......

the first one was good………

by Vote4Gore on Sep 7, 2008 1:22 PM PDT   0 recs

So far not too impressive.

Bad tackling. Can’t do that with those big Card receivers. And James looks healthy and strong again.

by Bob On The Coast on Sep 7, 2008 1:23 PM PDT   0 recs

willie my shining star

Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal

by 49erLou on Sep 7, 2008 1:25 PM PDT   0 recs

i meant p. willie

Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal

by 49erLou on Sep 7, 2008 1:26 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

nice stand

Defense stepped up big time there

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by Fooch on Sep 7, 2008 1:25 PM PDT   0 recs

good hold

at least its only a field gold attempt

by Vote4Gore on Sep 7, 2008 1:26 PM PDT   0 recs

I like Patrick Willis.

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.

by groug on Sep 7, 2008 1:26 PM PDT   0 recs

Nice stand

Now I’d like to see something on offense. How about a heavy dose of Frank Gore?

Young to Rice. Touchdown.

by Call It The Throw on Sep 7, 2008 1:26 PM PDT   0 recs

or a first down

or a completed pass, any would be good

by Vote4Gore on Sep 7, 2008 1:27 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Let’s not go crazy with the wishes here.

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.

by groug on Sep 7, 2008 1:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

3 points

NOt bad for a short field…. hopefully they can settle down and move the ball

by Muy Macho on Sep 7, 2008 1:27 PM PDT   0 recs

GAME CHANGING SPEED!

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Sep 7, 2008 1:29 PM PDT   0 recs

Plus a penalty. WOOOOOOO, starting at the 5.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Sep 7, 2008 1:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Rossum, that was, how you say, unsmart.

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.

by groug on Sep 7, 2008 1:29 PM PDT   0 recs

This is bush league...

and it completely reflects on Nolan.

Young to Rice. Touchdown.

by Call It The Throw on Sep 7, 2008 1:29 PM PDT   0 recs

shouldn’t have taken that out

by Muy Macho on Sep 7, 2008 1:30 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Special Teams

has been anything but special.

by baybruin415 on Sep 7, 2008 1:30 PM PDT   0 recs

Yeesh

That would not have been good.

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by Fooch on Sep 7, 2008 1:32 PM PDT   0 recs

Good GOD

This is ugly.

Young to Rice. Touchdown.

by Call It The Throw on Sep 7, 2008 1:32 PM PDT   0 recs

ugh

Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 7, 2008 1:32 PM PDT   0 recs

not a good start

Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 7, 2008 1:32 PM PDT   0 recs

FUCK. There was a massive hold in the end zone too.

Neglectful father of David Quinowski

by marcello on Sep 7, 2008 1:32 PM PDT   0 recs

Wowwwwwwwwww

unbelievable

by baybruin415 on Sep 7, 2008 1:32 PM PDT   0 recs

Christ.

We look horrible.

Young to Rice. Touchdown.

by Call It The Throw on Sep 7, 2008 1:33 PM PDT   0 recs

big hit

Keasey got crushed…not surprised he lost control of that ball

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by Fooch on Sep 7, 2008 1:33 PM PDT   0 recs

This is not the start I hoped for.

Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.

by groug on Sep 7, 2008 1:33 PM PDT   0 recs

ummmmm rules?

your supposed to hold onto the ball, not throw it away

by Vote4Gore on Sep 7, 2008 1:33 PM PDT   0 recs

what the hell is going on???

by ccslive on Sep 7, 2008 1:33 PM PDT   0 recs

Jesus…

by TexanNiner on Sep 7, 2008 1:33 PM PDT   0 recs

can he play QB?

Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.

by Nosetackle Supreme on Sep 7, 2008 1:34 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

this is painful so far..

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by 408 on Sep 7, 2008 1:34 PM PDT