49ers vs. Cardinals: 2nd half thread
Thanks to some great discussion, we're going to open up a second half thread for this game.
If you told me the average starting position of each team and the number of turnovers, I'd say the Cardinals would be killing the 49ers. Instead, the defense has made some huge plays (the touchdown aside) and the 49ers find themselves
The offense had its ups (Frank Gore) and downs (turnovers), they certainly showed some promise and definitely looked better than last season. All things considered, 10-10 is not the worst thing in the world.
Oh and per a comment in the first game thread: Celebrate your fantasy team all you want, but if one of your players does something good against the 49ers and you elect to say something, prepare to be mocked mercilessly.
We'll have a quick post-game recap shortly after the game. In the meantime....
GO NINERS!
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Dear Mike Martz,
Please keep feeding Frank in the second half.
Sincerely,
Niner fans everywhere
by shlecko on
Sep 7, 2008 2:55 PM PDT
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Here’s to more Frank Gore in thr 2nd half
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
by 49erLou on
Sep 7, 2008 2:56 PM PDT
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Feed
the Frank
Sam Fuld is the more accomplished Major League Hitter- Gordon Wittenmeyer
by dylanj on
Sep 7, 2008 2:56 PM PDT
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Isaac Bruce?
Haven’t heard his number called much all day..
by baybruin415 on
Sep 7, 2008 2:56 PM PDT
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I haven’t heard it called at all
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
by 49erLou on
Sep 7, 2008 2:58 PM PDT
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JTO
I was wondering, did Alex Smith ever had a 300+ yard game??? It seems JTO on his way to get there….
by Miner on
Sep 7, 2008 2:56 PM PDT
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let's hope not
300 yards passing = us trailing = Frank not getting fed
by shlecko on
Sep 7, 2008 2:58 PM PDT
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In retrospect….
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on
Sep 7, 2008 9:46 PM PDT
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Gore = Score
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
by 49erLou on
Sep 7, 2008 2:56 PM PDT
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Thanks for coming up with a compromise FFL rule, Fooch
Go niners!
Young to Rice. Touchdown.
by Call It The Throw on
Sep 7, 2008 2:58 PM PDT
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Joe Staley is having problems…. I am worried…..
by Miner on
Sep 7, 2008 2:59 PM PDT
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other than turnovers
this game shouldnt be close
by Vote4Gore on
Sep 7, 2008 2:59 PM PDT
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is it too soon...
to say that Justin Smith was worth the money?
I like what I see so far
by shlecko on
Sep 7, 2008 3:00 PM PDT
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Gore is carrying this team. I hope to see more of the same out of him in the second half.
by Rishi on
Sep 7, 2008 3:00 PM PDT
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man i hate giving up a first down on a third down
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
by 49erLou on
Sep 7, 2008 3:01 PM PDT
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especially...
on 3rd and long
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 3:02 PM PDT
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Lucky bounce again
We need some good luck here
Young to Rice. Touchdown.
by Call It The Throw on
Sep 7, 2008 3:02 PM PDT
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Warner was past the line of scrimmage on that throw.
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by groug on
Sep 7, 2008 3:02 PM PDT
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boldin?
what’s up with boldin getting all the passes this drive?
by renke81 on
Sep 7, 2008 3:03 PM PDT
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He’s really good?
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by groug on
Sep 7, 2008 3:03 PM PDT
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good pressure on this drive
Warner’s getting it out now, but it’s a matter of time before he’s forced into a mistake
by shlecko on
Sep 7, 2008 3:04 PM PDT
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Pray for a holding call.
Hey, it’s a clip.
by Bob On The Coast on
Sep 7, 2008 3:05 PM PDT
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we needed that personal foul
and we need to hold them again here
Young to Rice. Touchdown.
by Call It The Throw on
Sep 7, 2008 3:06 PM PDT
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Lawson ran himself right out of that play
he could have hit hightower for a short gain.
Young to Rice. Touchdown.
by Call It The Throw on
Sep 7, 2008 3:07 PM PDT
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all short passes
they arent getting anything deep, just short passes and the receivers have room
by Vote4Gore on
Sep 7, 2008 3:07 PM PDT
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HARALSON!
Just ON FIRE!
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 3:08 PM PDT
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I love the pressure
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by groug on
Sep 7, 2008 3:08 PM PDT
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We’ve been really close to getting to those FGs too
by baybruin415 on
Sep 7, 2008 3:09 PM PDT
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not that arizona is any real indication
but it looks like the red zone defense is a real strength of this team
by shlecko on
Sep 7, 2008 3:09 PM PDT
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way to go D again
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
by 49erLou on
Sep 7, 2008 3:09 PM PDT
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Is Parys Burning?
Like two goats in a pepper patch!
by Bob On The Coast on
Sep 7, 2008 3:09 PM PDT
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you know....
I haven’t actually seen much of Takeo Spikes so far.
Is that because he was hurt early, or just because Ulbrich (current tackler leader) has asserted himself?
by shlecko on
Sep 7, 2008 3:10 PM PDT
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fumble on the return
And there you get to see him.
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 3:14 PM PDT
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Penalties
Red Zone defense has been solid but the Cardinals have committed two HUGE penalties inside the 5 yard line: First quarter the personal foul on Gandy when AZ had just run to the 1 and the clipping call on this drive. I guess that counteracts the lucky bounces going AZ’s way, right?
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 3:11 PM PDT
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DAMNIT
We can’t keep giving these up. That is ridiculous.
Young to Rice. Touchdown.
by Call It The Throw on
Sep 7, 2008 3:12 PM PDT
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4 turnovers with a quarter and a half to go
never a good sign
by shlecko on
Sep 7, 2008 3:12 PM PDT
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OH WHAT THE HELL
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by groug on
Sep 7, 2008 3:12 PM PDT
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are you kidding me?
How many stupid mistakes can a team make in one game?
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 3:12 PM PDT
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Another fumble?
Four turnovers!
Please. Who muffed that one?
by Bob On The Coast on
Sep 7, 2008 3:12 PM PDT
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Now we know
where Takeo Spikes is.
by Bob On The Coast on
Sep 7, 2008 3:16 PM PDT
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Unfortunately
I said that if the Niners’ offense could hold the ball and score three TDs a game that they’d do well this year. Alas.
by Bob On The Coast on
Sep 7, 2008 3:15 PM PDT
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thats a soul crushing penalty
why would he do that? fucking idiot.
Young to Rice. Touchdown.
by Call It The Throw on
Sep 7, 2008 3:18 PM PDT
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ticky tack penalty
Yea he put the hands on the helmet but it’s not like he punched him
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 3:18 PM PDT
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Give me a break.
You can hardly look at a QB without a penalty flag.
by TexanNiner on
Sep 7, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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good point
I always forget that.
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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I’d take 15 yards to punch Warner in the face, hard.
Without killing anyone
We've won it 3 times
by ChrisHero on
Sep 7, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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Gamecenter says Takeo Spikes fumbled that kick? Uhh was he returning kicks??
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
by 49erLou on
Sep 7, 2008 3:18 PM PDT
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short squib kick
Young to Rice. Touchdown.
by Call It The Throw on
Sep 7, 2008 3:18 PM PDT
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short kick
Rackers pooched it short and Spikes had to try and catch it…not a chance.
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 3:18 PM PDT
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Short, high punt to the up man
in the sun.
by Bob On The Coast on
Sep 7, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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thanks i cant see it so i was like what the hell is going on
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
by 49erLou on
Sep 7, 2008 3:21 PM PDT
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If you go to Stooge TV and click “channels” and ask for the 49er game someone will supply you with a streaming link.
by TexanNiner on
Sep 7, 2008 3:22 PM PDT
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mms://a1313.l3072865312.c30728.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1313/30728/v0001/reflector:65312?auth=caEbsabaYbSaxcIcTbrdYd1aAcLdcdycXaZ-biXdIi-E-EnzCDxr
Try that.
by TexanNiner on
Sep 7, 2008 3:24 PM PDT
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roughing the passer is top 3 of all soul crushing game changes
by lincypoo i wuv u on
Sep 7, 2008 3:18 PM PDT
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crushed, stopped him short. satisfying.
by lincypoo i wuv u on
Sep 7, 2008 3:20 PM PDT
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go for it?
If I’m the Cards up 3 that deep I gotta be going for the touchdown.
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 3:21 PM PDT
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Gee
wasn’t that a hold on Smith on the last play?
by Bob On The Coast on
Sep 7, 2008 3:21 PM PDT
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Inconclusive...
I don’t think they can overrule this..
by baybruin415 on
Sep 7, 2008 3:22 PM PDT
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knee/elbow
The problem is that it didn’t look like his knee was down and when his elbow hit the ground the ball was extended….not sure what views the refs will be getting though
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 3:23 PM PDT
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Damn, thats a first down
The view from the end zone is conclusive
Young to Rice. Touchdown.
by Call It The Throw on
Sep 7, 2008 3:24 PM PDT
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wow
Cost them a time out but they have to go for it.
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 3:25 PM PDT
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4th down DDDDDDDDDefense
Young to Rice. Touchdown.
by Call It The Throw on
Sep 7, 2008 3:26 PM PDT
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ahh well that hurts
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
by 49erLou on
Sep 7, 2008 3:27 PM PDT
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Can’t keep turning the ball over and expect to get away with it.
by TexanNiner on
Sep 7, 2008 3:27 PM PDT
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Now that roughing the passer call
puts them down ten points. And the offense hasn’t even touched the ball this half. Like to see what the time of possession is now.
by Bob On The Coast on
Sep 7, 2008 3:27 PM PDT
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The Defense must be exhausted at this point
by baybruin415 on
Sep 7, 2008 3:27 PM PDT
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Deferring the kick at the beginning of the game
looks pretty smart now.
by Bob On The Coast on
Sep 7, 2008 3:29 PM PDT
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you can't turn it over 4 times and win
Young to Rice. Touchdown.
by Call It The Throw on
Sep 7, 2008 3:27 PM PDT
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Yes we can!
Mike Martz: A change you can believe in!
by lincypoo i wuv u on
Sep 7, 2008 3:28 PM PDT
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10 points is huge
holding them to 6 would have made it a totally different game….
But at the same time, it’s not so late that we have to force a passing game. Martz needs to be patient and keep feeding Frank.
by shlecko on
Sep 7, 2008 3:28 PM PDT
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kentwan balmer ran it back?? GAH?!!?!
by lincypoo i wuv u on
Sep 7, 2008 3:29 PM PDT
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short kick again
I can’t believe the announcer just called him “The Dancing Bear”……new nickname?
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 3:30 PM PDT
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what do we have devin hester back there returning kicks or something?
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by 49erLou on
Sep 7, 2008 3:31 PM PDT
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look at that shit
JTO. Dude. DO NOT STARE DOWN YOUR TARGETS. At least PRETEND there’s another guy on the field
by shlecko on
Sep 7, 2008 3:32 PM PDT
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nice blitz pickup by gore
upended the backer
by shlecko on
Sep 7, 2008 3:33 PM PDT
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the man does it all
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
by 49erLou on
Sep 7, 2008 3:34 PM PDT
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Nice catch.
Good to know we still have wide receivers.
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Sep 7, 2008 3:34 PM PDT
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sarcasm does not translate on the interweb
by Muy Macho on
Sep 7, 2008 3:36 PM PDT
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pessimism and disappointment do, though. =\
by shlecko on
Sep 7, 2008 3:37 PM PDT
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stop calling JTO a "young QB"
he’s like 30
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Sep 7, 2008 3:36 PM PDT
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To make sure we don’t have any when we really need them.
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Sep 7, 2008 3:37 PM PDT
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so we won't have them when we need them.
duh
by shlecko on
Sep 7, 2008 3:37 PM PDT
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remains the biggest problem
Sure we need a QB, pass rush, etc… but we’ve had timeout problems every damn year
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 3:37 PM PDT
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Still
I’d rather the QB call TOs than Nolan.
by Bob On The Coast on
Sep 7, 2008 3:38 PM PDT
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timeout
managment is awful today
Sam Fuld is the more accomplished Major League Hitter- Gordon Wittenmeyer
by dylanj on
Sep 7, 2008 3:37 PM PDT
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Does that FOX show about holes in the wall
mean that they’re getting all PBS and intellectual now?
by Bob On The Coast on
Sep 7, 2008 3:39 PM PDT
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We need at least a FG out of this drive and hope the D has been doing what it’s done all day
by baybruin415 on
Sep 7, 2008 3:40 PM PDT
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Now there's an improvement
Niners have outlets.
I thought I saw Hostler on the Redskins’ sidelines on Thursday.
by Bob On The Coast on
Sep 7, 2008 3:42 PM PDT
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Yes. Gore.
Now get it in the endzone. The D will be energized.
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Sep 7, 2008 3:43 PM PDT
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coaches need to put an eye shield on O'Sullivan's helmet
maybe then the defense won’t always know exactly where he’s looking to throw the ball.
by shlecko on
Sep 7, 2008 3:43 PM PDT
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like the one LTO wears
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
by 49erLou on
Sep 7, 2008 3:44 PM PDT
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wasn't a bad call
and Foster came close to breaking it.
by shlecko on
Sep 7, 2008 3:45 PM PDT
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if he had broken it, i would have been calling Martz a genius.
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Sep 7, 2008 3:46 PM PDT
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So….we don’t run on 3rd and short all game? Then we run a draw with Foster on 3rd and long?
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Sep 7, 2008 3:45 PM PDT
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They'll never see it coming!
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by groug on
Sep 7, 2008 3:45 PM PDT
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defense needs to step up
One possession game and the defense got some time to get a breath (especially with the end of quarter tv timeout). Gotta get the stop
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 3:45 PM PDT
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Finally. We PINNED them at the 26.
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Sep 7, 2008 3:47 PM PDT
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Lombard street
Is the windy Lombard road a stock photo for every single Bay Area sporting event?
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 3:47 PM PDT
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Yes
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
by groug on
Sep 7, 2008 3:48 PM PDT
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Have we had
an Alcatraz sighting yet?
Then again, maybe better than 24th and Treat. Or take ’em out to the zoo and get a shot of a Siberian tiger eating a cameraman.
by Bob On The Coast on
Sep 7, 2008 3:49 PM PDT
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they broke to alcatraz
on the return from a commercial break earlier.
by shlecko on
Sep 7, 2008 3:50 PM PDT
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How about a three and out this time?
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Sep 7, 2008 3:47 PM PDT
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how about a hit stick shot
from P.Willy?
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Sep 7, 2008 3:48 PM PDT
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is it just me
or have Nedney’s kicks been kinda short today?
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Sep 7, 2008 3:47 PM PDT
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I feel like his kickoffs have always been short as a niner
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Sep 7, 2008 3:48 PM PDT
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At least he sticks his FGs.
Don’t forget how bad it was a few years ago.
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Sep 7, 2008 3:50 PM PDT
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extra bodies
It looks like the Cardinals have brought more guys in for pass protection.
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 3:53 PM PDT
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I think they’re winded after that 3rd qtr
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Sep 7, 2008 3:54 PM PDT
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defense needs to come up big here, but they’re starting to drag a little bit.
Lott's Prayer: Almost as many words as the Lord's Prayer, but the Lord wouldn't recognize any of them.
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Sep 7, 2008 3:53 PM PDT
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STOP MISSING TACKLES, GUYS
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by groug on
Sep 7, 2008 3:54 PM PDT
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Turnover
We NEED to cause a TO at this point
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Sep 7, 2008 3:55 PM PDT
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Does anyone have a time of possession update?
by Bob On The Coast on
Sep 7, 2008 3:56 PM PDT
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at 8:19 left in 4th
It was Arizona 29:10, San Francisco 22:31
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 3:56 PM PDT
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ESPN
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=280907025
Can probably find it at the nfl.com scoreboard as well.
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 3:58 PM PDT
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walt harris is a great coverage guy
not so hot in the open field
by shlecko on
Sep 7, 2008 3:57 PM PDT
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that might be ballgame
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by 408 on
Sep 7, 2008 4:01 PM PDT
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two seasons ago
In 2006 this same thing happened. 49ers needed defensive stops and just couldn’t do it. Just ridiculous
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 4:01 PM PDT
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turnovers didnt help. arizona’s avg field position after 3 quarters was 24 yards better than sf’s
hard to fight back from that
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by 408 on
Sep 7, 2008 4:02 PM PDT
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This is awful
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by groug on
Sep 7, 2008 4:03 PM PDT
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Seriously, what happened to our pass rush?
Its depressing watching us slowly lose this game.
Young to Rice. Touchdown.
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Sep 7, 2008 4:03 PM PDT
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arizona is relying on their recievers to beat the secondary
short drops and 6-7 guys in protection… hard to rush against that.
by shlecko on
Sep 7, 2008 4:04 PM PDT
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Are they not calling delay of game anymore?
by TexanNiner on
Sep 7, 2008 4:03 PM PDT
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They never do
There’s a short interval between the play clock actually winding down and the refs seeing it. It’s been like that for years.
I’m still bitter that they didn’t call Warner in the 3rd quarter for throwing the ball when he was past the line of scrimmage. That happened, dammit.
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by groug on
Sep 7, 2008 4:07 PM PDT
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facemask?
That’d be a fitting end.
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 4:07 PM PDT
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thank the lord for rule changes
No more 5 yard face mask
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by Fooch on
Sep 7, 2008 4:07 PM PDT
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did we really just do that?
this team isn’t wasting any time disappointing me.
Young to Rice. Touchdown.
by Call It The Throw on
Sep 7, 2008 4:07 PM PDT
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It seems like we haven’t had the ball for a hour.
by TexanNiner on
Sep 7, 2008 4:08 PM PDT
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Cards over 34 minutes.
They’ll have a better than ten-minute advantage, and an incredible field position advantage. And the Niners had four turnovers.
These things are correctable, but not in time to save the game today.
by Bob On The Coast on
Sep 7, 2008 4:08 PM PDT
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Nolan should be fired
This team has the talent to win games, but they weren’t prepared and made dumb mistakes all game long.
"Jesus was a community organizer. Pontius Pilate was a governor"
by enut21 on
Sep 7, 2008 4:09 PM PDT
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agree
Young to Rice. Touchdown.
by Call It The Throw on
Sep 7, 2008 4:10 PM PDT
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not nolan's fault
Keasy got cracked
JTO didn’t step up in the pocket
JTO made a poor choice (and stared down Battle)
Spikes can’t catch.
As hands-off as Nolan is with the offense this year, it’s hard to put any of the 4 murderous turnovers on him directly.
by shlecko on
Sep 7, 2008 4:12 PM PDT
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You can chalk this loss up to the special teams..
by baybruin415 on
Sep 7, 2008 4:11 PM PDT
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Sadly, the pooch kick was the difference in the game.
by TexanNiner on
Sep 7, 2008 4:11 PM PDT
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10:08 drive
These guys come out of the locker room at the start of the game running out the clock.
by Bob On The Coast on
Sep 7, 2008 4:11 PM PDT
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AWFUL
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
by groug on
Sep 7, 2008 4:13 PM PDT
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bring culpepper out of retirement!
by baybruin415 on
Sep 7, 2008 4:15 PM PDT
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Anyone else wondering why we call him Just TurnOvers?
Seriously, Shaun Hill.
by Rishi on
Sep 7, 2008 4:30 PM PDT
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what the hell
the niners have just ripped my heart out agian yhaa!!!!!!!!!!!!
by etb2 on
Sep 7, 2008 4:48 PM PDT
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I just got back from the game.
That was terrible. More to come whenever anybody tries to defend anything about this team not named Frank Gore.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on
Sep 7, 2008 6:35 PM PDT
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Even Shaun Hill?
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
by groug on
Sep 7, 2008 8:03 PM PDT
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Especially Shaun Hill.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on
Sep 7, 2008 9:18 PM PDT
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But did you see him hold that clipboard? He was great!
Trent Kline: Decentish. Also, my website is called ChatterBalks Dot Com. It's not being updated right now. Hope for more at your own risk.
by groug on
Sep 7, 2008 9:32 PM PDT
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His board holding mechanics are all wrong. He’ll have major wrist problems by the time he’s 30!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on
Sep 7, 2008 9:46 PM PDT
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