Official NN 2009 Draft FanPost
Over the next three months there will be a whole lot of conversation about the draft. I realize there will be numerous FanPosts and FanShots about the topic, but it seems like having a central Draft thread could be useful as well (thanks to Rishi for the suggestion!).
I don't want this to discourage FanPosts and FanShots, and it's entirely possible this will be a useless thread (for which I'll place equal blame on Rischi!). Rather, FanPosts, as always, are more meant to flesh out specific sub-topics in better depth. For example, if you want to go into detailed analysis of 3-4 defensive ends and outside linebackers that's fine. Additionally, I'll obviously have numerous specific threads related to the draft and everything it encompasses (Senior Bowl, Combine, scouting reports, etc.).
When deciding if your thought is worthy of a separate FanPost, just figure out if it's something you can flesh out in a little bit of depth (as opposed to just a few sentences). For example, if you want people to submit their 49ers mock drafts, include your own mock draft. If you are just curious what day the Senior Bowl is (January 24), it might be better in the general thread. I'd say just use your best judgment as to whether a topic is worth posting in a FanPost. And if you really want some clarification, feel free to throw a comment in this thread or email me at ninersnation@gmail.com.
Also, as this thread will involve a million different subtopics, it is essential that people remember to use the Reply function so as not to create confusion. For those who don't know how that works: if you see a comment you want to reply to, just below it on the line with the person's username is a button that says "reply."
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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If we can
we should trade up to number one and take matthew stafford
by acho81 on
Jan 14, 2009 3:19 PM PST
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Nice try
I doubt that joke is as funny as you think.
by methodrampage on
Jan 14, 2009 3:29 PM PST
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I think that the 49ers are more likely to trade down than up.
by MinerNiner on
Jan 14, 2009 3:40 PM PST
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gglurrbbulllghgbubbbb
Thats the sound of me puking in my mouth a little bit
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on
Jan 21, 2009 6:17 AM PST
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so looks like Bradford is staying. That sucks, not so much becuase I wanted him, but because he was another guy that probably wouldve been drafted in the top 10 making it more likely the OL/DL/LB/DB we really want will be available.
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on
Jan 14, 2009 3:34 PM PST
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sucks also
Bc we could have had value in a trade if one of them would have fallen to 10
by Qbgetter13 on
Jan 15, 2009 6:03 AM PST
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yea that too
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on
Jan 15, 2009 6:25 AM PST
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Local Talent
There’s a couple of local players I’d like the 49ers to work out or take a long look at leading up to the draft:
Zack Follett, OLB, Cal
Adequate size, and runs very well. Had 11.5 sacks as a senior in Cal’s 3-4 defense; and is a general badass! Watch this Emerald Bowl highlight video to see the “pain train” in action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjAdBV6v44A&feature=channel_page
Alex Mack, C, Cal
3 year starter and 2 time all-american. Fine pass protector and an even better run-blocker. Could play some guard early and replace Heitmann.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8xCkToEnJ8
Will Tau’fo’ou, FB, Cal
Besides the obvious need for a good blocking FB, he is a SF native and will knock you into tommorrow if he gets the chance.
by MinerNiner on
Jan 14, 2009 3:39 PM PST
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Mack
Where are people seeing Mack go in the draft (slot-wise)?
by sfgfan on
Jan 15, 2009 11:01 AM PST
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I’d expect to see him gone by the end of the first round.
by MinerNiner on
Jan 15, 2009 12:28 PM PST
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So then why would the Niners be looking at him?
They’re not going to trade down to draft center. I doubt they’d trade up from the 2nd round to draft a center. Didn’t the Niners take a center last year? Why exactly do you think the Niners should be looking at Mack? He just doesn’t seem to be any kind of match.
by methodrampage on
Jan 15, 2009 12:41 PM PST
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Because although the 49ers took a center last year, you can never have enough road graders to compete.
by MinerNiner on
Jan 15, 2009 1:22 PM PST
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Center just seems like far from a 1st round need.
by methodrampage on
Jan 15, 2009 1:32 PM PST
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Kind of odd...
… considering centers aren’t generally taken in the first round. They tend to take time to develop (because they run the line), so most teams look for a more immediate return with their first rounders.
by sfgfan on
Jan 16, 2009 12:14 PM PST
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Isnt the Oregon guy projected to be the first center drafted? When was the last time two centers were drafted in the first round? I could see Mack being there with our 2nd round pick, though I dont know that its a 2nd round need for us right now.
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on
Jan 17, 2009 4:05 AM PST
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With...
… the pick of Wallace last season, I don’t think the team will look at drafting a center very high (if at all). Center may be the one spot along the line where taking one early would provide the team with better return, as the developmental path seems to be the same regardless.
by sfgfan on
Jan 21, 2009 9:07 AM PST
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Unusually awesome
Alex Mack, C, Cal
3 year starter and 2 time all-american. Fine pass protector and an even better run-blocker. Could play some guard early and replace Heitmann.
This would create a really interesting line of succession.
Chris Dalman started at guard for the Niners, before shifting over to Center. He was from Stanford.
Jeremy Newberry started at guard for the Niners, before shifting over to replace Dalman. He was from Cal.
Eric Heitmann started at guard for the Niners before shifting over to replace Newberry. He was from Stanford.
Ere go, Alex Mack is the next in line of succession, and your plan above creates some unusual awesomeness. ;)
Leading the Pro-Aaron Rowand contingent on the McC!
You can ridicule me in 2009 if you like...
by ThrillisGone22 on
Jan 19, 2009 1:27 AM PST
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Well done.
Rafael Rodriguez: Your number 8 organizational prospect before stepping a foot on American soil and has "looked just super so far," according to Felipe Alou...according to Baggs.
by BrianBokake on
Jan 31, 2009 1:27 PM PST
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All I have to say so far is...
I miss Bill Walsh.
Remember when we would trade down every year, because we knew that we could still pull 5 or 6 decent players out of the draft every year, and never have to overpay for busts?
Those were the good old days.
by shlecko on
Jan 14, 2009 3:41 PM PST
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+1
Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.
by bayboy on
Jan 14, 2009 3:51 PM PST
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On that note
Just a thought on trading down. I will preface this by saying I know that getting the picks needed for this wouldn’t be easy, nor have I fully researched the players I suggest so this might just be a horrible idea. But just something to throw out there, and see if anyone more knowledgable than me can build on it, or just tell me being dumb.
What if we traded down in the first round. There was talk earlier of the Eagles having two picks and if the make it to the SB, we’re talking 28 and either 31 or 32. According to this nice chart someone put up that would make our pick about as valuable as there 2. Also, the Lions have a the 20th pick in the first and the 1st pick in the second, which with the 10th pick and some later round pick might work. Again, I said getting the picks wouldn’t be easy.
So if the team could back up in the first and pick up another pick in the early second, fill the two glaring needs with those picks. For NT, look to Boston College, either Raji if he’s still on the board or get Brace. For RT, there are a couple 2nd options that might bode well, like William Beatty from UConn. Our actual 2nd rounder can be used on Rashad Johnson, the FS out of Alabama.
Then the 3rd round on, look for a QB maybe, and someone to help the pass rush. Follett has obviously been talked about some. Looking at DEs, a guy like Robert Ayers from Tennessee or Derek Walker from Illinois seem like big, 3-4 sized DEs with pass rush ability.
Again, I’m not going to pretend to know what I’m talking about. I’ve just been poking around a little and saw some things that looked interesting. Anyone else think something like this could actually work and give the team the players it needs?
by Sebaz49 on
Jan 15, 2009 2:18 PM PST
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I like the idea of trading down our 1st rounder...
especially with the Lions. Having the 20th pick and two 2nd rnd picks instead gives us more flexibility and enables us to better fill our needs.
by Ninerfromacrossthepond on
Jan 15, 2009 6:41 PM PST
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Lions have too many needs
I think they’ll sit pretty tight with their picks. If anything I’d expect them to try to trade down to get more picks not trade up to lose picks.
by methodrampage on
Jan 16, 2009 7:23 AM PST
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I never said it would be easy...
In fact, I started my post off with “I know that getting the picks needed for this wouldn’t be easy.” But there are still a few months before the draft. Players stocks will rise and fall, teams will find players they like, who knows what kind of trades will occur, and all of a sudden, something pops up that allows for the team to trade down in the first and get an extra second.
Sucks that the Lions fired Millen, otherwise that would have been a sure fire trade…
But if shock the Cardinals win this weekend, then the Eagles go from 28 and (either 31 or 32) to 22 and 28. The value of those picks (again going off that chart and hoping its valid) puts them at about the same as the 2 Lions picks I mentioned.
My original point wasn’t to argue the probability of us trading down, it was more of a discussion about if the situation presented itself where we could trade down for a late 1st and a 2nd (preferably early 2nd) do you guys think that would be a solid way to fill the roster with maybe not the “holy crap top off everyones board” players, but some solid players who more than likely will contribute and fill our needs, without breaking the bank on a #10 overall pick.
by Sebaz49 on
Jan 16, 2009 8:26 AM PST
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I just don’t think the Lions are potential trading partners. They need more help than what moving up 10 spots is worth.
by methodrampage on
Jan 16, 2009 8:58 AM PST
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I completely agree, I don’t think they would (though they are the Lions so who knows). But with plenty of time for trades to maybe shake up the draft order a little, who knows what things will look like in late April.
I just gave the Lions and Eagles as an example, because currently, with the picks they have, they fit what I was thinking best. You can obviously have a number of moves.
The Niners can trade down to later in the 1st, and pick up a late 2nd and 3rd, and then with another team trade that 2nd and their own 3rd for an earlier 2nd. Again, whether this makes sense or how feasable it is (I might be thinking too much of Madden) I don’t know. I’m just wondering would the 9ers be better off trying to move back to get a late 1st and a 2nd round pick, and would they still be able to pick up some impact players.
Like I know Raji is currently projected somewhere in the early 20s I think, and from what I’ve read, he would probably make an instant impact. But to draft him at the 10 spot would be a reach and would cost the team more than it has to. As for OTs, the top 4 might be gone by the 10th pick, so would it help to move back and grab one of the 5-10 guys that are projected to go somewhere in the 2nd.
Again, this is all based on my very short and shallow research into these positions, but it seems like the positions of need, OT, NT, FS and pass rushing DE and/or OLB could be filled quite nicely in the late 1st – 3rd/4th, if we had that extra pick.
So again, if something comes up where the Niners can get a late 1st and (prefereably early) 2nd, does anyone think the guys I’ve listed, or some other ones would make it feasable to do so and still get some quality players.
by Sebaz49 on
Jan 16, 2009 9:45 AM PST
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Raji
Good timing that you mention him. I get emails every so often from sites that want to be included in our mock draft database and a new site (draftdaddy.com) that wanted to be included emailed last night and their projection was Raji.
by Fooch on
Jan 16, 2009 10:21 AM PST
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I'd be fine with taking hime there
If the team feels that he is worth that pick. Early on he was projected to go in the late first half of the 1st round (10-15) but recently I’ve seen him more in the 20s. Maybe I’m just looking at the wrong mock drafts. From everything I’ve read he sounds like he’d be a beast in the middle. So if they feel the 10th spot for him is not a reach, I would be happy with that.
I guess this all depends on whether Haynesworth becomes an FA and the team gets him. But I think Haynesworth is as big of a question mark as the rookie (Haynesworth’s 2 big seasons were both contract years). And I have a feeling the rook would be a much cheaper investment.
by Sebaz49 on
Jan 16, 2009 11:15 AM PST
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If we cant land Haynesworth in FA and/or the top 3 OT’s are gone by the time we pick I’m all about Raji. Sounds like the only drawbacks about him are his relative lack of height and his inexperience will make him a rotation guy initially. I’m fine with a Franklin/Raji rotation at NT if we cant get Haynesworth.
-disclaimer-I gotta admit I didnt see him play a single game this year, I’m going off of scouting reports only and our dire need for a true 3-4 nose.
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on
Jan 17, 2009 4:14 AM PST
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Better and worse
So with the Cards winning the NFC Championship the Eagles now have the 21st and 28th picks in the first round. Now again, just as with the Lions, I’m not sure what the Eagles needs are, but I’m sure they are far less pressing. Thus maybe that would make the Eagles much better trade down partners. And I’m not saying we “should” trade with the Eagles because it all depends on their situation and if they would see something beneficial in it, and I have no clue. But an option is open.
The problem now is that I really like Raji, and although Brace seems decent, I think Raji can make an impact at NT next year. But his stock seems to be rising, and I’m not sure if he’ll be there at the 21st spot. So am I only one of a handful of people that has fallen head first onto the Raji bandwagon and can’t seem to get myself out, or do people think he’s someone the Niners should really try to get. Personally, I think I would rather take a risk on the rookie than on Haynesworth. As I’ve said before, Haynesworth is going to be expensive as hell and has only performed well the past two seasons, and I’m not sure whether that is just him improving and becoming a better player or its the fact that they’ve been contract seasons.
So if we do trade down, where do you guys see us possibly going and who would you like to see picked up there? And is Raji a pick that we can’t pass up, as the need for NT is too big for us not to improve?
by Sebaz49 on
Jan 21, 2009 11:14 AM PST
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Eagles
I could see the eagles wanting to move up and scoop a d lineman or maybe Maclin after they saw the impact a decent receiver can make (jackson). Maybe Beanie is still there and they want a bruiser.
If we trade down i think we should take a FS, If Moore is still there we could pencil him in.
NOW:
I know some of you like Goldson… i dont. He will be a good backup but i dont know if he can bring the hitting or coverage skills to be a starter.
Safety is more of a liability on our defense than NT. I will agree that we really need a FS, NT, and OT. Everytime Roman messes up it equals huge yards and usually points. Franklin messes up it might be a five to ten yard run. The NT position can benefit from a rotation of avg guys where the safety position is one u cant rotate. You want the same guy out there so he has a feel for the opposing offense and maybe picks up on a QB tendency.
If terrence Cody was coming out i would say there is way better talant coming out at NT and we need to go there and vice versa if Mays were coming out but all being equal (and i think it is)…. go FS with the trade down … pick up brace in the 3rd or 4th and rotate… or sign a FA…
by Qbgetter13 on
Jan 21, 2009 1:15 PM PST
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If...
Matt Millen was still in charge of the Lions, I might actually see this happening.
"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"
by Jeff_Fuller_49 on
Jan 16, 2009 5:45 PM PST
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I miss Bill Walsh.
There is no West Coast Offense.
There is only Bill Walsh’s offense.
Leading the Pro-Aaron Rowand contingent on the McC!
You can ridicule me in 2009 if you like...
by ThrillisGone22 on
Jan 19, 2009 1:33 AM PST
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Lets trade up to get
Michael Crabtree… we might not need him as a WR cuz we got Morgan and Hill rising, but it sure as hell would be fun to play with him in Madden!
by Dub4lif3 on
Jan 14, 2009 4:26 PM PST
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the truth comes out
MURS for President!!!!!!!
by jtoj on
Jan 14, 2009 6:06 PM PST
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oh god yes, I don't want us to get rid of VD for that reason, one on one with anything but a CB and he's gone deep
by foosball4949 on
Jan 14, 2009 6:27 PM PST
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Line him up as RB (select empty backfield, then audible to a running play). It’s awesome.
I declare you Sanchez.
by Rishi on
Jan 15, 2009 3:33 PM PST
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I wouldn't totally agree with taking Crabtree in the 1st...
Mainly because of my faith in Ziegler, Morgan, J.Hill, and co.. But it would benefit us in that Seattle doesn’t grab him #4 overall (What a nightmare!!!!)…
by J.SANCHEZ on
Jan 16, 2009 1:10 PM PST
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crabtree & other wr's
there is no chance in hell that we are going to get him unless we trade up. and i doubt the 49ers will do that. i cannot see him going past jacksonville jaguars (# 8). i think he will get drafted by seatle seahawks (#4). 49ers might think about drafting a wr in the 2nd round:
-percy harvin
-darrius heyward bey
-kenny britt
-hakeem nicks
Yadida
by Mill3R on
Jan 16, 2009 6:56 PM PST
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Harvin wont be there in the 2nd, and most of those other guys probably wont be either
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on
Jan 17, 2009 4:17 AM PST
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How many WR's were taken before the 2.10 pick last year?
by methodrampage on
Jan 19, 2009 12:25 PM PST
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and if the draft was re-done today?
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on
Jan 19, 2009 3:15 PM PST
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Not much would change
You might have two WR sneaking into the last half of the first round.
by methodrampage on
Jan 19, 2009 3:34 PM PST
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But you’d also probably have guys like Thomas, Hardy, Kelley, Sweed, Simpson, Jackson and Nelson (all 2nd round picks) dropping rather significantly.
by methodrampage on
Jan 19, 2009 3:40 PM PST
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you think Jackson would slip out of the 2nd round?
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on
Jan 19, 2009 9:31 PM PST
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Dexter Jackson?
Yes, I do.
What two WR do you think I have sneaking into the 1st?
by methodrampage on
Jan 20, 2009 7:19 AM PST
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Bingo
Desean and Dexter Jackson were both 2nd round picks. I should have specified Dexter Jackons my previous post.
by methodrampage on
Jan 20, 2009 10:05 AM PST
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yea I actually realized you meant Dexter after I responded.
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on
Jan 20, 2009 5:25 PM PST
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if Detroit doesnt grab him first. BAM! did I just make the first Lions WR joke of the draft season? what do I win?
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on
Jan 17, 2009 4:16 AM PST
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I think the niners should stick to patching up the D in the 1st round with either Brian Orakpo or Everette Brown
by sundaysfinest on
Jan 14, 2009 6:44 PM PST
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agree
i like everette brown! he’s a beast! does anyone know if aaron maybin is entering the draft?
another option is to help our o-line with eugene monroe or jason smith.
if sam bradford or matt staford drop to number 10, how can we pass em up?
Yadida
by Mill3R on
Jan 14, 2009 7:26 PM PST
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well considering bradford didnt declare
and has said he wants to stay in college,
i tihnk we can pass on him.
MURS for President!!!!!!!
by jtoj on
Jan 14, 2009 8:08 PM PST
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Draft him anyways!
We could do like they do in the NBA with players that don’t declare. Draft them and have their rights heading into the next year! Ok, maybe not the best idea.
by Fooch on
Jan 14, 2009 8:12 PM PST
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if the lions go a different way....
there is a descent possibility that stafford does fall…. if so i think we take him… you have to. Unless you like sanchez and think he will be there in the second but he wont be if the lions pass on stafford in the first.
by Qbgetter13 on
Jan 15, 2009 6:39 AM PST
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Niners Nation Mock Draft
It’s really early, but I’m tempted to do a mock draft shortly after the final declarations are made tomorrow (shortly meaning in the coming week or two). I know it won’t mean a lot but if we do a mock now and then one closer to the draft (or maybe multiple versions), we’ll be able to see how things change over the coming months.
The mock will be of the entire first round. If you’re interested in taking part, please reply to this comment. I’ll randomly assign the 49ers and then we’ll divide up the remaining teams between however many folks take part. It’d be great to have 32, but I’ll take whatever I can get.
So, again, if you’re interested in taking part, reply specifically to this comment telling me and I’ll be in touch.
by Fooch on
Jan 14, 2009 8:15 PM PST
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Mill3R in
I want to keep this organized so I’m moving this up here and will delete your comment later tonight once you’ve seen this.
The way it will work is, once I get a decent sized group of people, I’m going to assign you teams (so if we get 8 people, each person gets 4 teams). What my ultimate goal would be is for you to do a little bit of research on your teams so you can make a semi-informed decision about who they’ll select. Not a ton of research, but maybe check their SB Nation blog (I’ll pass on those websites) and maybe some other mock drafts to see what they’re going with. So not a lot of work, but I’d like this to be legit.
If possible, each person taking part in this one will take part in future mocks in the coming months. They’ll either have the same teams since they now know a little more about them, or we could switch around teams you pick for so people can learn about other teams. What do you think?
by Fooch on
Jan 14, 2009 8:41 PM PST
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sounds good
hopefully more people join
Yadida
by Mill3R on
Jan 14, 2009 8:46 PM PST
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Ooh ooh! I'll do it!
I already have my notes for 2 teams:
Lions: Pick a receiver
Raiders: Pick the FASTEST PLAYER AVAILABLE NO MATTER WHAT
by mikev on
Jan 15, 2009 8:14 AM PST
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Conflict of interest
Word on the street is that the Raiders are eyeing Crabtree.
by methodrampage on
Jan 15, 2009 12:44 PM PST
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I’m in
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on
Jan 15, 2009 2:09 AM PST
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count me in
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
by wjackalope on
Jan 15, 2009 8:19 AM PST
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so you're in?
Just want to clarify as I’ll probably email everyone in the next few days so we can whip out the first mock next week.
by Fooch on
Jan 15, 2009 4:07 PM PST
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sure, if you want me. I'm new to the site.
by Lynch's Golf Cart on
Jan 15, 2009 6:46 PM PST
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certainly...you're in
Including myself we’re at 14 people. I’ll give people another day or so to let us know if they’re interested and then I’ll email everyone and we’ll get the first mock draft going.
by Fooch on
Jan 15, 2009 7:00 PM PST
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Count...
me in, coach.
"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"
by Jeff_Fuller_49 on
Jan 16, 2009 5:47 PM PST
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when are we getting assigned our teams?
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on
Jan 17, 2009 4:18 AM PST
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this weekend
I’m gonna email everybody at some point today or tomorrow.
by Fooch on
Jan 17, 2009 10:22 AM PST
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don't see why not
I’ll mention it in the email and see what people think.
by Fooch on
Jan 17, 2009 12:59 PM PST
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I am in Fooch.
According to the comminsioner of the nfl, 104 people retired last year. 7 due to age, and the rest because of Patrick Willis
by montasmob69 on
Jan 18, 2009 9:29 PM PST
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Is it possible to still get in on this deal?????
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on
Jan 21, 2009 6:28 AM PST
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Crabtree
Although I’m really excited about our current crop of receivers, it would be great to have Crabtree as our eventual #1
I declare you Sanchez.
by Rishi on
Jan 15, 2009 3:32 PM PST
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Crabtree
I agree. I recognize the need for other positions, but his filthy college career makes him tempting. Hopefully he goes before we pick so even though I know we shouldn’t draft him, I can still tell myself we couldn’t get him even if we wanted to.
by Fooch on
Jan 15, 2009 3:43 PM PST
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I’m still bitter about not picking Desean in the second round
#*%)#@
I declare you Sanchez.
by Rishi on
Jan 15, 2009 4:00 PM PST
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I like Hakeem Nicks
From ESPN
The only three-year player in ACC history with more career receiving yards than Nicks is former Georgia Tech All-American and 2007 NFL first-round pick Calvin Johnson.
I’ve only seem him play a couple times, in the Meinke Car Care Bowl and another random game, but the dude was a total stud. Plus he made one of the sweetest catches I’ve ever seen.
by methodrampage on
Jan 15, 2009 4:01 PM PST
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+1
The guy has some serious hands on him.
by mikev on
Jan 15, 2009 4:03 PM PST
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Bump
That is an outrageous catch. Go Heels!
Throwback unis? Yes. Throwback afros? YES!
by grantmp on
Jan 15, 2009 8:07 PM PST
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NICE!!!
that was an amazing catch, good concentration, nice hands, in what round is he expected to go in the draft
by sundaysfinest on
Jan 15, 2009 8:12 PM PST
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He's projected to go in the second round
Yadida
by Mill3R on
Jan 15, 2009 9:13 PM PST
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Which is why I like him
I could be alright with with using a 2nd rounder on a potential #1 type WR (which some say he is) as I’m not super confident in both Morgan and Hill panning out.
by methodrampage on
Jan 16, 2009 7:25 AM PST
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I like this
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
by 49erLou on
Jan 16, 2009 10:40 AM PST
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crabtree is going to demand a ludicrous contract
and likely only be willing to sign with his first team for 4 years.
Whoever picks him is going to really have to shell out.
by shlecko on
Jan 15, 2009 10:29 PM PST
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Victor Harris
decent shutdown corner, someone to possibly takeover for Walt Harris, and someone who could possibly be thrown into the return game to fill in for an injured or retired Rossum. I wouldn’t mind us picking him up in the 2nd
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
by 49erLou on
Jan 17, 2009 8:54 PM PST
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oops here's a link
http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?Prospect_ID=1640
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
by 49erLou on
Jan 17, 2009 9:10 PM PST
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For the record, guys -- click "recommend" and this post will go to the top.
by mikev on
Jan 17, 2009 9:20 PM PST
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JerseyNinerFan
Hey, I tried emailing you at the comcast.net email address and it bounced back as failed permanently. Please email me at ninersnation@gmail.com ok?
by Fooch on
Jan 18, 2009 9:15 PM PST
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i didn't get my email yet. my email is millermartin40@yahoo.com
Yadida
by Mill3R on
Jan 18, 2009 9:32 PM PST
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weird
I sent it out about 40 minutes ago. Gmail sometimes has issues with that. I just forwarded the email to you again.
by Fooch on
Jan 18, 2009 9:40 PM PST
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got it thanks!
for some reason it went under “spam”
Yadida
by Mill3R on
Jan 18, 2009 9:43 PM PST
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Email sent
I updated my email and sent you one…
by JerseyNinerFan on
Jan 19, 2009 5:42 AM PST
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Mock Draft email
I sent out the email for the mock draft. Since it has 13 email addresss in it, it’s possible it will go into your Spam folder. If you don’t get the email, double-check your spam.
by Fooch on
Jan 18, 2009 9:51 PM PST
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SFI's mock draft
"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"
by Jeff_Fuller_49 on
Jan 19, 2009 4:06 PM PST
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Matt Stafford @ #10?
Eh. I hope not.
I was never impressed with him as a college QB.
by shlecko on
Jan 19, 2009 6:33 PM PST
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Yup.
I hope not, either. I think, this year, the 49ers should stay away from drafting QB’s.
"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"
by Jeff_Fuller_49 on
Jan 19, 2009 7:55 PM PST
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Okay so how do we get this thing rolling? Is it conducted fully via email?
by mikev on
Jan 20, 2009 8:21 AM PST
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Beats me
Fooch’s email was too wordy. I just looked for my teams and called it a day.
by methodrampage on
Jan 20, 2009 8:41 AM PST
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damn! I guess I missed the boat on this one
any chance of getting in on a later mock?
by 49er4life on
Jan 20, 2009 8:59 AM PST
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Top 10 Mock
1. Lions- Mark Sanchez, QB, USC
2. Rams- Andre Smith, OT, Alabama
3. Chiefs- Matt Stafford, QB, Georgia
4. Seahawks- Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
5. Browns- Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
6. Bengals- Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia
7. Raiders- Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss
8. Jaguars- Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
9. Packers- Everette Brown, DE, Florida State
10. 49ers- Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
Ian Johnson gets on one knee.
Sam Bradford gets on both.
by acho81 on
Jan 20, 2009 1:51 PM PST
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From Mel Kiper's first 2009 mock draft
SF – Aaron Maybin
Buffalo – Brandon Pettigrew
Denver – B.J. Raji
Wash – Brian Orakpo
and he has Maualuga going at # 20 to Detroit and Michael Oher at 28 with Philadelphia.
Looks like, according to Mel Kiper we could have our choice and for me it would be between Raji and Maybin
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
by Eastbayjim on
Jan 21, 2009 10:26 PM PST
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Mel Kiper's List, Yikes!!!
Seriously, Mel Kiper’s Draft list has to be a bigger joke than the BCS. Has anyone ever done an audit on Mel Kiper to see how horrendous his NFL scouting analysis. ESPN just trots him out on the TV to yell Texas, USC, Florida . . . product, kid, talent, great value . . . etc just hype their own college football programing for the next season.
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Feb 7, 2009 3:50 AM PST
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Mel Kiper's draft audit
That…sounds like an awesome idea.
I’m sure there’s a blog out there somewhere that’s dedicated to discussing Mel Kiper Fire-Joe-Morgan-style.
by shlecko on
Feb 7, 2009 3:57 PM PST
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While his predictions...
… may suck, who’s doesn’t? The useful part of Kiper’s information is on the needs of the various teams throughout the league and how players fit systems. I think of all the people who cover the draft (in a general sense), he’s got to be amongst the best in gathering information.
Of course it doesn’t help his cause a whole lot that he doesn’t put that information to use very well.
by sfgfan on
Feb 9, 2009 8:47 AM PST
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B.J. Raji at 10???
It looks like Raji is dominating in senior bowl practices, might not be a stretch at 10 anymore
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Jan 20, 2009 4:40 PM PST
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Top 10 FOR NINERS
Given that the Niners are drafting 10, we should develop a list of our top 10 players for the Niners. I.e. if our number 2 guy is available, that’s who we take. Here is my first crack at it – with reasoning. I’m VERY open to suggestions on modifying this list.
Matt Stafford (QB) – Cannon for an arm, 3 year starter in the SEC where he faced more speed than most prospects, and didn’t have a dominate offensive line to keep his jersey clean (which forced him, unlike a guy like Sam Bradford, to lean to play with pressure). If he falls to us at 10 (unlikely) we should forget the pain of the Alex Smith experience and pull the trigger
Andre Smith (OT) – Huge OT who would be a perfect roadgradder across from Staley. Probably long gone.
Michael Crabtree (WR) – Stud WR would step in immediately and make an impact. Again, if he falls to 10 (unlikely to last past Hawks), we cannot pass on a guy this talented.
Malcom Jenkins (CB) – The #1 rated CB for the past couple of years. Can probably start immediately. Provides insurance for an aging Walt Harris.
Eugene Monroe (OT) – Another very solid and very big OT to pair with Staley and solidify the offensive line for the next 5 years.
Aaron Maybin (OLB) – Stud pass rusher to give us the push we need on the outside.
Michael Oher (OT) – Probably the most athletically gifted tackle prospect. But dumb as a rock and inconsistent. Still, he has the talent to be a beast on the right side and pave the way for the power running game Singletary wants to install.
BJ Raji (DT) – Talented NT prospect has been dominating senior bowl practices. Was projected to be a mid first rounder, but it looks like he’s going to be moving up draft boards. That will make him not so much of a reach at 10. Also, he fills a glaring need at NT, notwithstanding Franklin’s improved play toward the end of last year.
Everette Brown (DE/OLB) – Another OLB pass rush prospect to provide push. This is the guy we’ll probably actually end up with.
Aaron Curry (OLB) – He should be long gone before we pick, but I have him ranked lower because he would be an inside backer for us and we already have a great one. That said, while he doesn’t fit a big need, he’s reputedly on of the top 5 players available regardless of position.
For the record, Orakpo’s reputation as a weight room wonder, the huge improvement in his stats between his sophmore and junior seasons, and his struggles against NFL caliber lineman in his bowl game have me terrified that this guy is going to go down as another physical freak/combine bust. The rest of the guys on the above list performed at a high level, consistently during college. Finally, I question whether he’s good enough in space to play OLB in a 3-4.
by kiyoshi on
Jan 21, 2009 4:00 PM PST
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Still too hurt as an organization...
I think Singletary knows that one part of the niners being looked at as among the NFL’s worst for the past few years is the early 1st round QB pick gone bust (even if that criticism is deserved). I can’t see Samurai Mike going for a big name, big arm QB, especially with the promise that Shaun Hill showed, the potential that Alex Smith still MIGHT have, and the fact that he wants to turn our offense into more of a run threat, not a big game, big arm pass threat.
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on
Jan 21, 2009 4:46 PM PST
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I understand that point of view
Here are my rebuttal points:
- While I like Shawn Hill, I think most of us would admit that his ceiling is “very good game manager.” Those guys usually don’t win superbowls (big exceptions: Trent Dilfer, Hostetler, Brad Johnson, all of whom played with historically awesome defenses). Also, the presence of Hill would allow us to do with Stafford what we failed to do with Smith – sit him for 2-3 years to learn, rather than throwing him in the fire right away.
- Its EXTREMELY unlikely that Stafford falls to us given his talent and our draft position (which perhaps moots this discussion, but moot discussions are what these forums are all about). Best player available theory would thus demand the pick.
- Samurai Mike only has input into the selection. Scotty boy makes the final decision. I guess we’ll see how that plays out in real life.
- I never thought Alex Smith had the talent to be a star QB and don’t think much of the potential he MIGHT still have
by kiyoshi on
Jan 21, 2009 4:57 PM PST
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Not bad points
Additional Points:
-I agree with the point on Hill, but getting a QB right now when the talent is good, but not great, is not the best move in my opinion. I am not the first, and i sure as hell wont be the last to say there are more pressing issues than QB. Next draft a huge amount of talent will be entering the draft, and if Hill can’t take this team to the playoffs, we can pick up one of the big gun guys next year.
-Moot arguments rule
-Scotty boy has the final call, but Coach Sing has a huuge input in the decision, since he is shaping the team he thinks will be sucessful. He won’t be able to over ride scott, but if he has a specific plan for the team, it’s hard to go directly against that.
-The MIGHT is full of doubt in my opinon, and I don’t trust Smith completely. However, if the team decides to bring him back (for a massively reduced salary) I can’t see us getting another qb, especially with a pick so early to get Sanchez/Stafford. a 5th/6th/7th QB pick (a la Ken Dorsey) wouldn’t bug me…. too much…
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on
Jan 22, 2009 9:14 AM PST
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I'm not saying we SHOULD take a QB in the first
in fact, I think this would be a meh-to-poor year to do it.
However…Shaun Hill is not a long-term answer, and Singletary is looking to build a foundation for the future. Besides, if you’re going to look for a QB in a run-run-run offense, then you might as well find a guy with a cannon arm who can take advantage of the play action on those deep shots down the field. Sort of Flacco-esque, for a fresh example.
by shlecko on
Jan 21, 2009 7:02 PM PST
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Stafford
I really dont think there is any way we can pass him up if he falls to us… absolute cannon…. reminds me of cutler….. i saw them both play live and college and they can throw a slant off their back foot with the best of them. And as mentioned above he can sit and learn unlike smith and when the time comes he can step into a run first offense which would help as well. He can also sort of grow with these young receivers. The o-line should also be fairly set and figured out by then also.. the defense will only get better.
by Qbgetter13 on
Jan 21, 2009 8:02 PM PST
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should we take a RT that high?
and if we did draft someone that high, would he start at LT with Staley moving back over to RT where he was more successful?
by 49er4life on
Jan 22, 2009 12:03 PM PST
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I've been thinking about that very thing
It does seem a bit high to draft a right tackle. However, given the struggles we’ve had at the position (see Sims, Barry versus Grant, Charles and Jennings, Jonas versus Room, Training), getting a top of the draft tackle would be a big upgrade and would effectively turn a weakness (OL) into a strength. Also, offensive linemen generally have very long carears, so there’s some value in drafting one. Finally, I like the idea of getting the line set for the foreseeable future. Adding a stud 22 year old to Staley (24), Bass (27), Heitmann (28), and Rachall (22) would give us a line we could count on for years.
As for who would start at LT or RT, I guess doesn’t matter as much, although I thought Staley did a good job last year.
by kiyoshi on
Jan 22, 2009 2:15 PM PST
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doesn't matter how old Baas is
he’s unlikely to re-sign, as he’s unlikely to be wanted after his contract runs up.
by shlecko on
Jan 22, 2009 11:28 PM PST
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Yea I really like the idea of building a young line that can grow together. cohesion is key for an o-line.
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on
Jan 23, 2009 2:19 AM PST
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I don't understand...
… the difference. In my honest opinion, if the team has so many other needs taking a RT anywhere in the first round is kind of a head-scratcher. Even if they take a LT and move Staley to RT, he was still drafted in the first round. Part of Staley’s value to the team is that he can be a franchise LT at a bargain price for a couple more years.
by sfgfan on
Jan 22, 2009 3:20 PM PST
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Ultimately...
I don’t think we should take an OT early, but picking a OT around where Staley was picked wouldn’t be a bad thing. Hypothetically…say the OT’s slide a bit, and somehow the 49ers ended up with a late first round pick and took Jason Smith as their RT in the mid 20’s. That would be great value for him and like kiyoshi pointed out the line would be set for years to come.
If I’m not mistaken, you were campaigning for Sam Baker last year with our pick in the first and trading Jennings??? that would be the same thing.
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Jan 22, 2009 4:09 PM PST
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Baker
I liked him last offseason, and may have suggested him as a possible first round pick. I don’t remember for sure. What I do know is that I eventually got picked up by the Groves train that came to a screeching halt when the 49ers took Balmer.
by sfgfan on
Jan 22, 2009 4:24 PM PST
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After doing a quick search...
… it seems like I used taking Baker in the first round in an example instead of Jackson because the money shelled out to a player at the bottom of the first round is too much for a potential kick returner, but not so bad for a potential backup offensive lineman.
I don’t know if that makes sense, but it did in my head. Basically, someone was suggesting the 49ers take DeSean Jackson. I argued that Jackson is poor value because you end up with this lofty contract for a kick returner. I then argued that a player like Baker, a bit safer of a pick, presented more value because the salary for a backup tackle is actually pretty close to that of a rookie from the bottom of the first round, I think.
Long story short, it was basically an argument that Jackson was too risky. I don’t think I really would have pushed to have him taken in the first.
by sfgfan on
Jan 22, 2009 4:33 PM PST
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Hindsight...
… is almost always 20/20. Even if he were here, would any of the team’s QBs be able to take advantage of his speed?
by sfgfan on
Jan 23, 2009 8:56 AM PST
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Sure Jackson would have been better than Balmer
But there would have been better picks than Jackson.
by methodrampage on
Jan 23, 2009 9:12 AM PST
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no.... there wasn't
he is the best pick in that 2nd round… your only agruments would be Royal or Forte… obviously the niners didnt neet forte but him or royal, … i think him…
by Qbgetter13 on
Jan 26, 2009 5:55 AM PST
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I dont think Jason Smith will be there in the teens, much less the 20’s.
"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike
by sam23 on
Jan 23, 2009 2:21 AM PST
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and i only remember that because...
I had just started coming to this site and other than Groves with that pick, I also liked the idea of picking an OT(assuming one was left) and cutting Jennings.
by 49er4life on
Jan 22, 2009 4:16 PM PST
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The difference is we're drafting players, not positions
The question is NOT whether we should take a QB or an OT. The question is, given who is available, should we take Stafford or Andre Smith or Everette Brown, etc.
Here’s a thought experiment. Lets pretend for a moment that Barry Sanders was available in this draft and only the Niners knew how talented he is. If he were to fall to the Niners at 10, you take him. Do we have more glaring needs that RB? Of course. But passing on Sanders just because you have Gore doesn’t make sense.
Now, lets modify that a little bit. Lets say Sanders and Reggie White are available. Those two players have similar talent levels. In that case, it makes sense to take White, given team needs.
My point, as stated in the subject line, is that saying “we shouldn’t take a QB” or “we shouldn’t take a RT” misses the point. We need to talk about the players. WR isn’t our biggest need, but if Crabtree is available its pretty hard to pass on him, especially if the alternative is a project that happens to play a position of greater need.
Finally, my view is that our three biggest needs are, in order, Rush OLB, RT and FS. So, notwithstanding the financial picture of the offensive line, its not like picking a RT would be out of step with team needs.
So, given all of that, what does your Niner top 10 draft board look like?
by kiyoshi on
Jan 22, 2009 4:18 PM PST
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I'm all for BPA..
… (best player available). I don’t think it serves the team well at all to take a RB if they had, say, two capable backs. I would take a Barry Sanders right now if he were available to me, and I’m sure McCloughan would do the same. Gore, as good as he is, still has a very treacherous injury past, and that HAS to bother people.
I think the team still has to keep things in perspective, though. Needs need to be filled, and while they shouldn’t reach for them, if the difference in potential isn’t that great, I think you go for the position of need, don’t you?
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Jan 22, 2009 4:38 PM PST
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Agreed
However, then the question becomes which of the available players have the best potential. To me, Orakpo, Maybin and Brown don’t look like the next Shawn Merriman or Demarcus Ware. That said, I’ve only seen Orakpo and Brown play once and only seen highlights and reports on Maybin. If someone thinks those guys are that good, then I’m all for drafting them. God knows we need help in the pass rushing department.
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Jan 22, 2009 4:44 PM PST
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Orakpo a risk in more than one way...
like you pointed out earlier, he put on a TON of muscle for his fianl year. Most likely more than possible naturally, so if he did use steroids or HGH he will not only be a suspension threat, but an injury threat as well.
Any player who puts on that much size in such a short period of time obviously means they are lifting far more weight. The problem with that is your tendons and ligaments can’t handle a sudden and huge increase like that and get significantly weakened. That’s why you often see athletes suspected to be on steroids tearing MCLs, ACLs, and having shoulder problems.
by 49er4life on
Jan 23, 2009 8:43 AM PST
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hence MCL and ACL..haha
merriman is a perfect example.
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Jan 23, 2009 8:59 AM PST
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I was thinking more...
… along the lines of cartilage and such.
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Jan 23, 2009 9:03 AM PST
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i just....
… dont like handing these OLB’s all this #10 money… they could be the next manny lawson and that would be terrible…. These guys that are mentioned will most likely be targeted by 3-4 teams… one might slip through the cracks…
I think if Stafford and your pick of OLB’s are there we have to take stafford… I know there is a better crop coming out next year but stafford would still be at the top of their class… and by then he already has a year under his belt…. To me, stafford is a steal at 10. The lions might go O-Line and then Freeman in the 2nd. If the lions dont take stafford he could easily make it to us depending on the faith the chiefs but in Thigpen. Or Maybe they take sanchez.
If the draft goes anything like our mock and their are no tackles left to even consider i’m going to be scared.
We need a trade down in the worst way.
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Jan 23, 2009 5:49 AM PST
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Stafford...
… is it really even a possibility he will be there at #10? I think there’s a lot of talent to be had at #10 (based on what I’m reading), I don’t think the team HAS to trade down. A trade-down would be nice, but it takes two to tango and I don’t see any indication that there’s a player some team below the 49ers will NEED to jump up to get. It’s still early, though.
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Jan 23, 2009 9:04 AM PST
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Anything is possssssiiibbbbbblllllleeeeeeee
Michelle, you look good tonight .
Yes Stafford could fall. Someone always unexpectedly falls. (See, e.g., Brady Quinn). Its not likely, but it could happen. If it does, we’ll have to think pretty hard about picking him or trading down with a team that wants him.
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Jan 23, 2009 10:13 AM PST
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Michelle Tafoya
I was quoting KG during is ridiculous post NBA finals interview with Michelle Tafoya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyjOy7fRzs0
“Anything is possssssiiiibbbbllllleeeeeeee” occurs at around the 22 second mark. After which he begins to cry, pulls it together, utters a bunch of incomprehensible shout outs and then, at the 1:41 mark, says “Michelle you look good tonight.”
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Jan 26, 2009 4:03 PM PST
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KG
That was one of the greatest interviews ever….I’m a Celtics fan (dad from Boston) and was highly entertained by that. Talking about partying with Bill Russell and stuff.
by Fooch on
Jan 26, 2009 7:56 PM PST
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Ugh... Really?
A Boston fan?! ugh… That hurts Fooch, that hurts
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on
Jan 27, 2009 7:42 AM PST
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Boston
But it’s only the Celtics and Bruins. I despise the Red Sox and merely dislike the Patriots. I SWEAR!
by Fooch on
Jan 27, 2009 7:46 AM PST
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alriiiiiiiight
If you liked the Sox, we’d have problems. And the pats, well, we all know you have to sell your soul before you like the Pats.
BTW: Lakers > Celtics
Devils > Bruins
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on
Jan 28, 2009 1:30 PM PST
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Pure Entertainment
That’s also the only sports interview that I can remember where the athlete hits on the interviewer.
by kiyoshi on
Jan 27, 2009 6:47 PM PST
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wow...
you don’t remember the Joe Namath MNF interview a while back?
by shlecko on
Jan 27, 2009 6:59 PM PST
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im pretty sure there's a website named after it
Simply by pulling on both ends, Patrick Willis can stretch diamonds back into coal
by 49erLou on
Jan 27, 2009 7:20 PM PST
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It's a classic
Check it out via Spike
by methodrampage on
Jan 28, 2009 9:34 AM PST
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Instant CLASSIC
I was at the game (500th NFL game on ESPN, or something like that). Once it happened the word spread in the stadium, and fans were already heckling Namath (“NO JOE! KISS ME NOT SUZIE!!!!”) by the end of the third quarter. All the Jets fans around me were just depressed, even more so because the Pats were killing them. Classic moment in NFL history.
Blind devotion.
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Jan 28, 2009 1:38 PM PST
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Tyson Jackson - DE
The more I read about him, the more I think he would be a great fit. He’s pretty much the same size as Balmer, ( at 6-5, 293 lbs), however, he’s a true DE and has experience getting to the quarterback and creating pressure. I’m not saying we pick him at #10, but trading down is an option and collecting more picks in the 2nd and third rounds.
Here’s an alternative scenario to the idea of picking guys like Orakpo and Brown at #10 to create more of a pass rush.
Trade down and pick Tyson Jackson later, which would give us atleast another 2nd rounder in return. Have him groomed at DE or play in a rotation (with McDonald, Balmer, Sopoaga)opposite Smith at DE or have Smith drop back and play more OLB and with the extra second round pick, we can always go after an OLB, with quite a few 3-4 prospects projected there.
by 49er4life on
Jan 28, 2009 10:23 AM PST
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I’m not going to advocate a name to take but I will just spell out what the 49ers should be looking for. When drafting you really need to consider the needs of the team 2-3 years out and not next season. Also, watching the NFL draft, there really isn’t much difference picking between 1-32 except for cap money. The teams picking the right guys for their system, that they can develop are the continual draft winners.
I think the 49ers to consider drafting:
1. LB, because they cleaned house on everything that was in development and went with Spikes this year. Good LB are traditionally easy to pick out so the good ones get drafted 1st or 2nd round.
2. RT, Ok everyone knows this. If there is good tackle available they should snag one. Another OL later in the draft too. In smash mouth football you can never have enough good linemen.
3. CB, Walt Harris cannot hold that post forever. They need to be grooming an heir.
4. RB, anyone else notice that Frank gets tired by the 4th Quarter trying carry the entire load. It’s so easy to see, he doesn’t bend down in his stance and his hands are across his knees . . . oh and his production grinds to a halt. The 2 RB backfield is badly needed.
5. FS, only if a top notch ball hawk is available. I can live with Roman if these other pieces are being put together.
6. DL, I like what the 49ers have now. A huge nose tackle would be nice but doubt one will be around. DE has become the NFL draft equivalent of RB in fantasy football. Everyone picks them 1st round but you take a survey around the league rarely are they reaching the QB, it’s the blitzing LB’s getting the turnover’s and sacks. The D-line stopping the run on 1st and 2nd down are the ones creating the top defenses by creating 3rd and long situations.
I like what they have at WR. The have a roster full of guys who haul in the 3rd down catches. That’s what they need for their system, a Hines Ward and not a Bernard Berriman. They would waist the talents of a guy like Crabtree.
by bignerd on
Feb 7, 2009 4:18 AM PST
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well said...
the only thing your missing in that is the most important position on the field! thats the quarterback and honestly im fine with waiting till next years draft which is stacked with qb’s, and leaving it in the hands of shaun hill for another year. as for the draft:
1st round-Orakpo (olb) 10.5 sacks 15tfl
2nd round-Chung (ss/fs) 82tak. 6 def. 1 int
3rd round-Ringer (HB) 21td, 1,500yds
4th round- Boon (OT) Big 10 1st team
5th round- Barden (WR) 1,200 yds, 18td
6th round- Osaisai (DB) 67tak. 8 def.
7th round- Holt (olb) 10.5 sacks
by hyphy cowboy on
Feb 7, 2009 3:59 PM PST
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Keep an eye/ear out for this guy...............
MURS for President!!!!!!!
by jtoj on
Feb 9, 2009 6:23 PM PST
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Hartwick?
Never been a fan of drafting QBs out of unknown schools.
by shlecko on
Feb 10, 2009 12:40 AM PST
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DIII
There are high school teams that could beat DIII teams. I doubt this guy gets drafted.
by methodrampage on
Feb 10, 2009 7:11 AM PST
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