Draft Mark Sanchez?

by LosAltosA's on Jan 15, 2009 2:20 PM PST Comment 38 comments

Mark Sanchez will enter the draft. It's likely that Sam Bradford's decision to remain in school influenced Sanchez's decision to leave; Sanchez looks like a certain first-rounder now. He was only a one-year starter for the Trojans, but he looks to have all the tools to succeed at the next level. The question is should the 49ers draft my cousin with there 10th overall pick in this falls draft? Yes? No?

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What are your thoughts

I think no b/c they have more pressing needs they can better approach. Do you think they should grab him (family relationship aside)?

by Fooch on Jan 15, 2009 2:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I like Sanchez but there are bigger needs I’m guessing he’ll be gone anyway. The Lions are all but guaranteed to grab a QB and Sanchez will be the 1st or 2nd QB taken

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by sam23 on Jan 15, 2009 2:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Lions

Lions would take Stafford before Sanchez. I’d be amazed if Sanchez was gone by the 10th pick.

Now, whether that means we should draft him is different story…

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by Exhibit G on Jan 15, 2009 5:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Lions would take Stafford before Sanchez

I dont think thats a safe assumption just yet. Not til the combine is done at least, most scouts have them rated very closely and Sanchez’s rose bowl performance likely boosted his stock a bit.

"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike

by sam23 on Jan 15, 2009 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

its close for now....

its close bc of Sanchez’s bowl performance but im not high on any big 10 defense no matter how hi they are ranked… they play scrub offenses all year…

Once the combine starts Stafford will jump ahead of him for sure… his arm is just too rediculous.. scouts are going to get wood…. especially the premature ejaculators that the lions have scouting for them.

by Qbgetter13 on Jan 16, 2009 6:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The Niners need much more than a QB

I say no to Sanchez.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Jan 15, 2009 2:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I say no

Like Fooch said, there a bigger needs than QB.

I’m not familiar with Sanchez, but I would be very hesitant to draft a QB that high with only 1 year of experience. Too big a risk with too little info to go on. Plus I think a lot of people still have the bad taste left from Alex Smith.

by Sebaz49 on Jan 15, 2009 2:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Yes but as a 2nd rounder

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Jan 15, 2009 2:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I could roll with this

But definitely not as a 1st rounder. I think he offers enough upside to spend a 2nd round pick on. Will he be there in the 2nd? Most likely not but if he was I’d be ready to take him.

This is kind of irrelevant, hind sight being 20-20 and being a year late and all, but would you take Balmer or Rachal over Sanchez?

by methodrampage on Jan 15, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I like Rachal

Hes mean and nasty and is only going to get better I think.

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Jan 15, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Me too

I think he will be a solid guard for us for years to come.

Balmer… I don’t want to count him out yet. Let’s see what a whole offseason does for him. If he can lose some of the fluff and get stronger, maybe work on his explosiveness, he might be a solid DE. That’s probably very optimistic, but an offseason with an NFL training staff might do him wonders.

by Sebaz49 on Jan 15, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Balmer?!!!

Seriously? It is well acknowledged our D-Line was awful this year… and our #1 pick d-lineman barely played and made even less of an impact. I REALLY hope that Nolan is the one that drafted that guy and NOT McLoughan. If McLoughan is the one that evaluated that talent(?) we aren’t going to get any better.
I hope that Balmer blooms this year and proves me wrong, but I’m not holding my breath.

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Jan 15, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

i would

i dont want sanchez but i think he could have more value than balmer for sure and probably more than rachal… i like rachal but he plays guard… we can get a guard that is start worthy in the 5th round if we scout good enough

by Qbgetter13 on Jan 16, 2009 6:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Not with the #10...

FloridaDanny addressed this not long ago in rating the success of 1st & 2nd Round QB’s, and only 1 year of starting is too small a sample of play to use such a high pick on. Besides, QB’s don’t have a favorable impact sooner than their 3rd or 4th year, typically. Our needs run deep and we need more instant impact; not a project for the future. Use a 3rd or 4th Rounder on a QB if we must, but both Lines need instant upgrade/production, plus the Safety position. That’s where the 1st and 2nd Rounders should go to.

by StepUp on Jan 15, 2009 2:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

at the same time....

We need to put stock in someone so they can sit…. if we dont do it this year you might be looking a shaun hill for the next 3 years… not a bad thing, i like him ,… but we are not winning a super bowl with him… no first round D lineman is doing that for us.

by Qbgetter13 on Jan 16, 2009 6:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

ABOSLUTELY

He would come into the perfect situation of sitting behind Hill for a season while he learns. Think Phillip Rivers and Aaron Rodgers. This guy ran a pro-style offense at USC, has all the physical tools, is mature and intelligent, has an incredible work ethic, is a leader, and strives to compete. He will be a star in the NFL, might as well be with the Niners.

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Jan 15, 2009 2:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

ps-

I wont deny that I am obviously biased…

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Jan 15, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Let's see...

Rivers had Brees…
Rodgers had Favre…
and Sanchez would have…Hill…yikes

We need to focus on Defense. Offense still needs lots of work, but the D is just a few pieces away. I say draft a badass safety or linebacker (Taylor Mays would have been nice)…maybe Rey Rey as the LB. Wow. Yes! Think about that! Pat Willis and Rey anchoring the LBs of a 3-4! But I would also like to find the next Tim McDonald

…now all we have to do is add Alan Haynesworth

by swerv on Jan 16, 2009 12:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

no way

we are drafting “rey rey” that would be the ultimate waste of a pick….. ok so defense is a few pieces away… so then we can complete it and it can wait on the offense?.. i know some team’s can do it but our defense has yet to do what it is built to do…. get to the QB.

by Qbgetter13 on Jan 16, 2009 6:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I dont now anything about Alan

but I’d sure love to add Albert Haynesworth.

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by sam23 on Jan 16, 2009 7:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I can't vote in your poll

However, I would agree that the 49ers can’t afford to go that way with a first round pick. The whole luxury of Shaun Hill at this point is that you actually have the skill AND the time to address other needs with more pressing picks without sacrificing the ideal of being able to develop a talented quarterback for the future.

In the second round… maybe. but taking him with the first pick seems like a big mistake to me.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jan 15, 2009 3:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

If there's a USC player we're taking with a "not really needed in the 1st round" 1st round pick

I’d rather it be Maualuga.

At least he’d be worthy of the 10th pick and between him, Willis, and Spikes they might actually kill a guy on the field.

I would be all for Sanchez in the 3rd round if he’s there. Not likely though.

by mikev on Jan 15, 2009 4:06 PM PST reply actions 1 recs

I agree with everyone there are bigger needs

Sanchas may turn into a great player, but there are bigger needs. We also have Shaun Hill. He is not the best, but he has done well with their system, and if we’re going to replace him lets get someone great.

by flyincow555 on Jan 15, 2009 4:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

for what its worth

McShay has the niners taking Sanchez at #10. I seriously doubt that, but he does have the top two OLB’s and the top 3 OT’s all going ahead of us. In that scenario I think I’d be rooting for a trade back.

"It’s a hobby of mine. Kind of like collecting your fingernail clippings or pooping in jars." -olympic mike

by sam23 on Jan 15, 2009 10:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

WHY THE NINERS WONT DRAFT SANCHEZ

I am certain the niners will NOT draft mark sanchez with the number 10 pick, regardless of what ESPN’s Todd McShay says. Here are my 2 main reasons—

The number one reason is obvious- we got seriously burned by drafting alex smith number one a years back and management would be hesitant to do it again. Dont get me wrong, i feel they will draft a qb somewhere in this draft, but in the first round its too much guaranteed money on a position thats almost never guaranteed in round 1 of the nfl. If you remember, alex smith was considered a “safe” qb selection as the #1 overall pick and look at what happened with him.

Its not a Coach Sing type of move. Just think about the type of coach he is and the things he preaches – running the ball and defense. Drafting a QB with his first pick as head coach is a extremely RISKY move for him and I just cant imagine it happening. See what happened with Nolan? Obviously drafting Alex Smith wasnt the only reason he didnt last here in SF but he certainly was linked to drafting him and went down when Smith went down. I can see the niners drafting a offensive player in round one, just not a QB.

Overall I wish the best to mark sanchez and think he could be a good nfl qb. I just know that he wont be suiting up in a niners uni

by cuse7284 on Jan 16, 2009 8:25 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I see your points but disagree...

Alex Smith was NOT a safe pick because he came from a gimmicky offense that can’t translate right away from the pros. He has a lot of work to do to become a consistent pro (if that ever happens). Also, the Niners drafted Smith and put him in a no-win situation on an absolutely terrible team. Sanchez is coming into a more stable situation with NO PRESSURE. We would be drafting for the future. And while the #10 pick isn’t the ideal spot to do that, the draft doesn’t seem to be top heavy with difference players in the positions of need. Malcom Jenkins, Michael Crabtree, and the top OT’s are all going to be gone by #10. So anyone drafted there could be a stretch. So why not take a top player who will slide because not too many teams need qb’s.
I really don’t understand why the board is ok with drafting a LB that we don’t need now but are grooming for the future, but not a QB who we don’t need now. Watching this team, the LB’s are one of the only positions of strength.
Also, Singletary is NOT the GM, McLoughan is.

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Jan 16, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

"I really don’t understand why the board is ok with drafting a LB"

I think the only LB position the board is ok with drafting would be a pass rushing OLB, which the Niners need very badly now. I think people are just a little nervous about drafting a QB in the first round because it’s usually pretty risky and I doubt Singletary wants his career tied to a first round QB selection much like Nolan’s was.

by methodrampage on Jan 16, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

OLB

People act like 3-4 OLB aren’t risky… they are just as risky.. either they can’t cover.. or turns out they really can’t pass rush (Manny Lawson)….

I agree that Singletary wont want to take a QB for fear of him not panning out…. but for the record the year we drafted smith couldnt have been a worse year to have the #1 overall pick….. Urban Meyer mad alex smith… period.

by Qbgetter13 on Jan 17, 2009 10:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

alex smith was a safe pick bc...

if you remember way back when, everyone said he had an absurd football IQ and had a ridiculous score on the wonderlic test or whatever. Im not saying I agree, im just thinking back to the hype that was alex smith

by cuse7284 on Jan 16, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

If you could go back...

What round and overall pick # would you give Alex Smith?

by J.SANCHEZ on Jan 16, 2009 4:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

what do you mean

knowing now how he has preformed so far in the NFL or should he have received way back when IF the niners passed?

by cuse7284 on Jan 16, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I mean

if you knew what you knew now…

by J.SANCHEZ on Jan 16, 2009 4:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

being a niners fan

Id say undrafted as im bitter as hell. But realistically hes a 15th rounder and a SOLID backup

by cuse7284 on Jan 16, 2009 4:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

i mean...

back at the time i thought campbell would be good and i was thinking the niners should have taken braylon edwards #1 and campbell at the top of the second. that probably wouldnt have worked out. but i’m sure if they could have done it over they would draft merriman.

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Jan 16, 2009 5:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Reply function

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by Fooch on Jan 16, 2009 5:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

my bad

wont happen again

by cuse7284 on Jan 16, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

no worries

It’s easy to overlook it and that Alex Smith discussion was an equally good discussion to use it.

by Fooch on Jan 16, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

A QB?

It would be nice to have Mark Sanchez on your team. But, the team is in dire need of the DL positions (except Justin Smith’s),and I believe that they will go defense in the first round (at least). For someone who thinks he might be available past the 15th pick has obviously not heard or seen this guy play. “Experts” are saying, “well, he only started 16 games in college.” But those 16 games were all quality games. Besides, he played in the PAC-10 were football games are all very competitive (except for UW).

"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"

by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Jan 16, 2009 5:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs