SI.com interview on KNBR
Barrows had a very interesting post this morning and I really would like to hear people's thoughts on it. Jim Trotter, the SI.com guy who broke the Jimmy Raye story with Adam Schefter, did a radio interview with KNBR and had some interesting points about the hiring process.
According to Trotter (as posted on Barrows site):
[B]efore Mike Singletary made his final choice for offensive coordinator, he brought the two finalists, Raye and Hue Jackson, and had them sit down and talk football with the rest of his assistants, both offensive and defensive. After the session, Singletary then asked the assistants to make a choice. According to Trotter, it was unanimous in favor of Raye.
If this is true, what do people think of this kind of hiring process? Barrows considers it "vintage Singletary" in that he gets the people under him to buy into the hiring. He compared it to the Shaun Hill situation where he told the offensive players to "figure this out." I imagine some people would view it as Singletary himself not taking enough ownership of the situation, but others would view it differently. I think I don't have a problem with it, but I'm honestly not completely sure.
So, what do you think about this?
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I like it
I don’t take Sing for the type of guy that would, somewhere down the line if this doesn’t work out, say “look, every other coach on the team wanted that guy.” I just dont see that coming from him. And if things go bad, and he does pull a line like that, I’ll lose complete respect for the man.
So, what I like about it is that you give those working under you a stake in the decision, and therefore the future of the team. I think it makes everyone more comfortable with the fact that they had a choice of who’d they be working with (defensive guys) or under (offensive guys). I think that’s part of “new age” management philosophy 101. If the guy up top makes all the decision by himself, then they are his decisions, and subordinates have more room to grumble at the bad choices. If everyone has input and feels like they are a part of the decision making process and guiding the direction of where the venture is heading, then more people are more likely to not only go along with it, but also work harder to make things succeed. This team is still Sing’s baby, but now you have a bunch of “uncles” looking out for it too.
Or maybe I’m just going to deep into it.
by Sebaz49 on Jan 30, 2009 9:53 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think you're totally right on this
and thats how I feel too. I really like this kind of decision making. It makes all the coaches on the team feel part of a team, want to stay with the franchise and, as you say, most importantly it gives everone the moivation to work harder to be successful.
by Ninerfromacrossthepond on Jan 30, 2009 5:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Referring to that Ram game is odd...
And if that’s ‘vintage Singletary’ (last year was his first crack as a Head Coach, right?) without ‘vintage Martz’ (against ‘vintage’ 2008 Rams who lost a few games late), then who knows how ‘vintage’ (the term really applies here) Raye would fare against ‘vintage’ Spagnulo.
As far as the whole staff thingy: maybe they saw how Raye uses the “digit system”, and thought it helped the continuity issue, along with his background under Turner. It also might help with the Alex Smith issue, who the 49ers will never give up on.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Jan 30, 2009 9:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Personal Experience
I was once in a job where a new Manager was going to be hired to run our team. We were included in the selection/interview process. Although we did not have final decision-making authority, our recommendation was going to factor in heavily.
The candidate we recommended ended up getting the job. Once he was in the job, he was horrible. We did not like working for him. The way the selection process was handled did not absolve the decision-makers from responsibility for the choice, but it helped us to understand. We had thought he was the best candidate as well.
So even though I’ve been burned in a similar situation, I think it is very smart.
Never forget: I am a complete idiot
by Exhibit G on Jan 30, 2009 9:58 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
The Sing Style
To me, it shows more of a “This is my vision, I want everybody on board with it…” type of approach, as opposed to “I don’t care what everyone else thinks, he’s my guy whether ya’ll like it or not.” I assume everyone’s in favor of smash-mouth ball, so go with the guy that everyone likes and thinks will fit in best.
by StepUp on Jan 30, 2009 9:59 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
It sounds like a "team" approach to coaching
No one can predict for sure how either candidate would work out, so it seems like, since both coaches were qualified, by getting input from the other staff (coaches), Singletary is getting buy-in, as someone mentioned earlier, and he lets them know that he values them and their decisions. This should create a feeling that the coaching staff are truly a team, and this atmosphere should spread to the players, in fact linking the players and coaching staff as teammates, although they haves different roles on the Niners team.
by kinglouie33 on Jan 30, 2009 10:49 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Building a good foundation
I agree with most of you folks already on here: I think this shows that Singletary wants not only to build a strong, winning team on the field, but throughout the organization as a whole. He, to whatever extent he can, seems to be changing the mentality of this team, these coaches, this franchise, and I think it’s great! And it seems to me, that the effects are already showing: Perennial hot heads like V Davis are shaping up, Veterans like Spikes and Rossum want to stay around, Rathman jumped right on board, and Manuski just signed a contract extension, which to me says, “I’d rather be here, and be a part of this, than go somewhere else (e.g. the Jerry Jones circus)”. It may not appeal to everyone (see Detroit’s new OC), but maybe that is a good indicator. Do y’all remember when Eddie D. went out on the field when B.Y. went down with that horrible leg injury? Remember how it made you feel to see him out there holding his hand and riding off in the ambulance with him? While Singletary isn’t the owner, I think we once again have that kind of man in the 49er ranks, and I for one, love it!
by MT9er on Jan 30, 2009 11:48 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Now that's reading too far into it.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Jan 30, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I look at it more like this...
Raye invoked Turner, Smith, continuity of the Digit System, the fullback, getting VD involved, and a lot of other stuff they wanted to hear. Old School Veteran vs. a Young Wipper Snapper, judged by a bunch of other veterans whose jobs are at stake too.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Jan 30, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
I feel a little more relieved right now about this hiring.
The one thing that does scare me though is how unfamiliar he seems with our team with the exception of Gore and maybe a little Smith (via talking with Norv)
by foosball4949 on Jan 30, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
team for players a team for coaches
If sing was kind of 4 to 3 one over the other and the coaches felt the same then nothing would have changed sing’s decision but since all went the way of the wild goose then maybe it clinched or persuade a change. Either way it is still sing’s decision and all the coaches know that but dont you love when your boss ask for your input!
This swings me over a little because i actually wanted an oc for head coach.
by libra45 on Jan 30, 2009 1:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
doesnt suprise me
sing always credits the people he works with. sounds like he really trusts them
If you had a lineup of 9 Jack Custs who hit(Cust career average) .239 AVG, .382 OBP, and .475 SLG, then your team would score 6.12 runs per game-totalling to 991runs a season.The 08 rangers lead the majors in runs score with 901.
by 9Custs on Jan 30, 2009 5:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Still doesn't mean Singletary has any iota of an idea what he's doing.
Jackson and Raye were both rather unappealing candidates.
BTW, is this the only/first black HC/black OC combo in the NFL? Just curious.
by methodrampage on Jan 30, 2009 6:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Knowing what he wants vs. knowing what he is doing...
Is the the crux of the issue, outside of knowing what he is getting into in SF. One might think that Sing wants to emphasize the strength of the offense, which is the run game, yet oddly enough, the passing game won him his job. My opinion is this: they want to install an offense that Alex Smith can run. That’s it. Unless they go out and draft a QB in round 1 or 2, then Smith is the guy they want. That’s why Raye was hired, because he can install an offense for Smith. Of course, this is all predicated on Smith returning, but if you had put your ear to the ground during the OC search, Smith is part of the equation. I think the Turner Digit system sold them because of Smith’s experience with it, and they still hark back to 2006, which really was by accident than by design.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Jan 30, 2009 11:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Letting everyone have input may give them the warmy and fuzzies, but I don't see it as a positive.
It’s one thing to consult your most trusted staffers behind closed doors, but that’s not what it sounds like happened in this case. Every assistant had the opportunity to voice their opinion? Is that the way ANY top coach operates, in ANY sport?
C’mon Sing – man up and show us you can lead the Niners back to greatness.
by cabz on Jan 30, 2009 10:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
love it
I don’t think its fair to bash on Singletary for wat he did as far as the process of asking the opinion of his staff, I love the idea. I’m just wondering if people are bashing it because it’s out of the norm. When’s the last time we’ve heard a head coach involve his staff in the hiring process? This in no way shows signs of a weak HC. I’m excited for the staff that we now have, now lets keep the momentum going for the rest of the off-season.
by sundaysfinest on Jan 31, 2009 2:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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