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BRING TERRELL TO TOWN

Brothers and sisters who call yourselves niner fans.  Its been a rough decade for us who were the red and gold, but help is on the horizon.  Something that will allow us to have a top end defense and give us the freedom to draft the best player on the draft board.  That help is called Terrell Suggs. 

Some of you know him, some may love him, some may hate, but we can all say that for those of us who know him we respect his ability to do one thing.  GET TO THE QUARTERBACK.  With the advent of free agency, which occurs before the draft, we can see Terrell is entering into free agency. 

Terrel Suggs, who has worked with Singletary (briefly) and has a knack for getting into the backfield.   I am beginning a campaign right here and  now.  I ask the rest of my niner fan brothers and sisters to join me in this campaign.  Its entitled BRING TERREL TO TOWN. 

I understand that many naysayers out there will be disgusted by this posting.  For those of you saying we need peppers or haynesworth, I agree with you, but I find them unrealistic to be signed by the niners.  I feel like pursuing them greatly will force us to miss a great option in suggs.  Others might point to offense with the likes of matt cassell and TJ Whosyourmomma (for those of you of foreign decents I apologize I am too lazy to actually look up his name) available within free agency many may say let us put our money there.  My answer to you is no.  Matt was able to do what he did in New England because of the system there that he has learned over the time.  It is unlikely he can replicate that at another location.  TJ would be a great pickup, but with Coach Singletary saying this will be a run first offense, we will not benefit economically for the price we would have to pay for a great number TWO wide out. 

There are no dues, no fees, and no oblgations towards this campaign.  You can do it from home or from work.  You can just type it from your computer or tattoo it onto your torso and wait outside the santa clara sports compound.  Whatever you do, brothers and sisters, we need to let the powers that be to BRING TERREL TO TOWN.  I hope to see more about this.  I hope to see the true fans voices to be made loud.  I look forward to seeing it take hold of this website and then onto the sfgate site.  Next to hear it within the 'rumors' of ESPN and finally out of the mouth of Singletary.  But it has to start somewhere and it starts with each of us who believes this niner team can be great again.  If any of you want real change to this team you will join me.  Thank you.

~BRING TERRELL TO TOWN

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.

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that Terrell. Not a bad idea.

"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"

by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Jan 4, 2009 9:50 AM PST reply actions  

yeah

i thought it was Owens when i first read it

by Dub4lif3 on Jan 4, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

It was a good attention grabber

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Jan 5, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

the other terrell gets in the qb’s face as well

by acho81 on Jan 6, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you

I’ve mentioned the same thing on other posts. He just seems to make the most sense given our 3-4 alignment. He’ll come cheaper too and has a Singletary connection. He’s a proven pass rusher and better than Lawson and Haralson (for those worried about what to do about them if we add an outside backer). Looking over the possible FA’s he would be my main target. He’s still young too.

by abasketballfan on Jan 4, 2009 4:31 PM PST reply actions  

Suggs

This applies to everybody but works just as well in response to your post. The Ravens will see Suggs and Ray Lewis as free agents and I’m wondering whether they franchise one of them. In the case of Suggs, for the second straight season.

Also, what makes you think he’d come cheaper? He’s an amazing hybrid DL/LB and I’d imagine he’d cost quite a bit given that he made a little over $8 million under the franchise tag.

by David Fucillo on Jan 4, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Hype seems to have a lot to do with FA signings. Peppers is the face of the Panther defense. Haynesworth is the face of the Titans defense. Suggs is maybe the third guy on the Ravens defense behind Lewis and Reed. If a team signs Peppers or Haynesworth, they’ll make them the face of their defense and it will sell tickets… How many teams do you think want to make Suggs the face of their D? That’s why I think he’ll cost a bit less, nothing to do with his actual ability.

I don’t think he’ll come at a drastically different cost. The sum contract may even be the same but over another year or so. Granted, I’m no expert in contract stuff. Even if he comes at the same cost, it seems that he’ll fit the Niners D the best. Haven’t seen enough of Haynesworth to be evaluate whether or not he can play Nose Tackle. Probably wouldn’t know even if I did watch a bunch of his games. If they think he’ll be just as great at that position then I wouldn’t have any problem with that sighing either. If Haynesworth fits better as a 3-4 End, then I’d much rather have Suggs. Peppers, IMO, is best suited as a 4-3 DE.

The reason I think he might become available is because he and Lewis are FA’s. I’m hoping they have to choose just one. With so many great defender’s on that team, it must be hard to keep them all.

Does the franchise tag salary significantly increase the second time around?

by abasketballfan on Jan 5, 2009 2:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I think.....

The first year someone is franchised, it takes their contract to the average of the five highest salaries at their position. The second year a player is franchised, it takes their contract to the average of the five (or ten, I’m not sure) highest salaries in the league, regardless of position.

by illini49er on Jan 5, 2009 5:11 AM PST up reply actions  

franchise tag will be the average value of the top 5 highest paid at that position OR 120% of the previous salary, whichever is greater

by 3eyes on Jan 5, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather pay Haynesworth an extra 2 mil a year or so than get Suggs. We do need an impact pass rusher, but the one of the main advantages of installing the 3-4 was supposed to be the ability to aquire cheaper pass rushers at OLB than the expensive DE’s. I like Suggs, but Haynesworth would have a much greater impact on this D.

by sam23 on Jan 5, 2009 1:10 AM PST reply actions  

One without the other.

I kind of agree with this, but at the same time, Haynesworth would kind of be wasted without a pass rusher. Now, it’s very possible that Haralson continues to put things together and maybe (finally) establishes himself as the pass rusher McCloughan/Nolan/whomever originally envisioned him being. How likely is that? I don’t really know.

But I do know that I would probably opt for Haynesworth over Suggs, too.

by sfgfan on Jan 5, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I would take Haynesworth over Suggs also

mainly cos Haynesworth, I think, would be of more value to our defense. As far as I can see, wee need good pass rushers on the DL as a priority.
If we got Haynesworth then opposing teams would have to double-team him making it easier for our OLB to pass rush more effectively-whoever that may be.
However, if we chose to go with Suggs then opposing offenses could double-team him on a pass rush knowing that our DL consists of no great and consistent threat to their QB – hence our pass rush is not significantly improved from this year, and this has got to be our no1 priority for next season.
That is the way I see it.

by Ninerfromacrossthepond on Jan 5, 2009 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

That kind of makes sense.

The way I see it: I think it’s a lot harder to find someone who can play a 3-4 nose than someone who can play 3-4 OLB. Both are difficult positions to fill, but finding a pass rusher should be easier if the DL can do a better job occupying blocks.

by sfgfan on Jan 6, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

yea thats basically what I was trying to say. And few, if anyone, ties up blockers as well as Haynesworth.

by sam23 on Jan 9, 2009 2:32 AM PST up reply actions  

haynesworth

The same might be said of Suggs, but any consideration of the fact that maybe Haynesworth would struggle (or at least take a significant step down) after getting what will surely be a big deal?

by David Fucillo on Jan 5, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sooo disappointed...

I wanted to have a good rant so bad..

by Bitter Fan on Jan 5, 2009 8:17 PM PST reply actions  

I'm down for it

I think it will cost more than just $2 million per year to upgrade from Suggs to Haynesworth, as someone mentioned above. Plus, for some reason I have a gut feeling that Haynesworth will have injury problems.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jan 6, 2009 12:19 PM PST reply actions  

More than 2 million? really I think Haynesworth could set a new salary record for defensive players, but I cant imagine Suggs being too far behind him.

by sam23 on Jan 9, 2009 2:35 AM PST up reply actions  

If we miss out on Haynesworth I think I’d rather try to land Karlos Dansby (younger and cheaper) than get into a mega bidding war for Suggs. He has the size/speed combo to be a good fit.

by sam23 on Jan 9, 2009 2:36 AM PST reply actions  

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