ALEX SMITH?
by Colton on Oct 11, 2009 8:28 PM PDT
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Hey, just a thought. If you don't remember, last year in Singletary's first game as our head coach he replaced J.T O' Sullivan at half time with Shaun Hill. Shaun Hill was never really the for sure starter coming into the year. And his competition Alex Smith once ran this 49ers offence, and ran it well. I really did think there was a chance that Smith would get some time in todays game when Hill could just not controll this offense. I aprove of Shaun Hill, and am skeptical about Alex Smith, but hey, anything can happen, and im not really sure whats next. What do you think?
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If Hill plays as badly in the next game as he did in this one he should last about as long as JaMarcus Russell would without Al Davis.
by CorneliusJ on Oct 11, 2009 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Can’t blame it all on him the whole team did not play good
by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 11, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't blame it all on him, true ...
… but you can’t drastically change the play of any other position by benching one player.
by Ronaldinho on Oct 11, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to bench someone with Hill's record...
But… I kind of thought, and was looking forward to, seeing Smith get in some minutes this game… As much as I like Hill’s record, our offense is terrible. I hope with Gore coming back, and maybe within a few more weeks of Crabtree getting into the system, that Hill will be more comfortable. My opinion, that by week 9 or 10, if we aren’t in first place and offense is struggling, that Smith should get a shot…. Opinions?
by ZonaBacks10 on Oct 11, 2009 8:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
All things equal....
I couldn’t have possibly thought of any better situation to get your back up some playing time (other than being up by 35 in the fourth) and I really don’t understand how Smith didn’t see playing time last week. If the goal was to show that Hill is the leader to the team and lead by example, I would say FAIL. I believe that the only thing Hill did after mid 3rd quarter last week was shake his teams’ confidence in him, what with all the “tough” faces and stares he was kicking down. A few times the camera zoomed in on him bitching as he was walking up to take the snap. In fairness, this was really the first time we have seen him melt down but I think he should have been out of there to cools off, get Alex some snaps (especially with our line play last week, we may see him sooner than later) and see if there is some new chemistry. I think Sing was showing his confidence and trust in Hill as the starter, but I don’t think there would be a controversy from Alex taking 20-25 snaps. IMHO
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by norcalfan on Oct 13, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes Hill will remain the starter but
I would prefer that Singletary get Nate Davis and Michael Crabtree and have them practice throwing together. That is our future and it makes no sense to delay it with Hill or Smith.
Kezarvet
by kezarvet on Oct 11, 2009 8:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
have to disagree--I think
like you, I looooove the fact that those two are getting to be friends. If college and the preseason is anything to go by, Davis has tremendous upside potential, and obviously Crabtree has the potential to be great. But count me among those who think it would be a terrible idea to put Davis out there before next season for any reason other than an injury.
Davis did not come out of a college system that ran a pro-style offense. He was in the shotgun much of the time and did a lot of running when his first read wasn’t open. Sound like anybody else on the roster at QB?
I think the team would be doing Davis wrong by not letting him ride the bench the rest of the year (under Mike Johnson’s tutelage) and going through another training camp, where he’ll get the kind of reps he needs to come in and contribute.
So I agree that the Davis—>Crabtree connection is the team’s future, but I would’ve expected a person with your sense of the team’s history to argue against giving Davis the same treatment that it gave to Smith.
Morgan breaks through in 2009!
by grantmp on Oct 12, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agreed with kezarvet
i thought thats what he meant because i dont think singletary would start davis after one bad game, and again it wasnt hills fault, the team looked like a frosh/soph team playing out there. next year he will be in for open competition unless hill can drive us to conference. i see smith goin to the redskins or the panthers next year.
by big beaner on Oct 12, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dont give up on Hill
I think with the bye week and then playing a bad defense in Houston assuming we get Frank Gore and possibly Crabtree our offense will open up a bit more and Hill will have more targets to go to
I like Coffee but he is not yet close to as good as Gore and with Crabtree our pass game will get better with his presence and other teams will know he’s a threat so guys like Morgan and B Jones will have a better opportunity to make plays
it’s not time to panic lets wait and see what happens after the bye week against Houston
by 49erEmpire on Oct 11, 2009 8:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Coffee,
I remember reading that Coffee got chewed by Raye for trying to bounce plays outside.
Now it looks like he (Coffee) is going to run the play exactly as designed no matter what, he is afraid to improvise.
by CorneliusJ on Oct 11, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
opening up the offense
They opened it up when they were down by 35.
Shaun Hill was still horribly inaccurate on deep passes.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 11, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hill was inaccurate
on short passes too, slants and everything
by dalien82 on Oct 12, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 12, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather watch Nate Davis run the offense, than Alex.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 11, 2009 9:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If
the offensive line would block somebody, it wouldn’t matter who was in there cause they’d actually have time to get it to a receiver (and not just a check down). On a few occasions today Chilo Rachal snuck past the defensive tackles making himself available for ascreen pass not realizing he was an OFFENSIVE GUARD! Matadors don’t have anything on our offensive line!
by Drew K on Oct 11, 2009 9:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL hahahaha thats so true hahaha I needed a good laugh thanks Drew
by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 11, 2009 9:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No way Smith is an answer
"Optimist Prime"
Come along and ride the muthaship!
by rlott#42 on Oct 11, 2009 9:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Alex Smith
sucks. Period. Hindsight is 20-20. Should have drafted Aaron Rogers. Hill is just good enough not to single-handedly lose the game. Davis? No idea, buttime for finding out should be reserved for when we are in no position to make a run at the playoffs or when Hill gets broken in half, whichever comes first.
Well, at least we beat the Rams...
by corvette49rdave on Oct 11, 2009 9:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually,
IMO, Smith >= Druckenmiller
Well, at least we beat the Rams...
by corvette49rdave on Oct 11, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Hill will be the QB all year.
I am not sure that it is the right thing to do but he will keep the position. The big questions is what QB do the 49ers draft next year? They will have two 1st rounders one of which should be in the top10. Who do you all like?
For the thirteen time in 3 or one evers, I found myself toothlessly thinking about Manny Ramirez.
by camwoody on Oct 11, 2009 9:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Clausen
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 11, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
forgot about Cluasen be could be good as well
by 49erEmpire on Oct 11, 2009 9:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I mean HE could be good as well lol
by 49erEmpire on Oct 11, 2009 9:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Is Clausen's arm big enough to be great at the next level?
I don’t really know.
For the thirteen time in 3 or one evers, I found myself toothlessly thinking about Manny Ramirez.
by camwoody on Oct 11, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Bradford would probably be a better bet to have success in the NFL
by 49erEmpire on Oct 11, 2009 10:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose we can hope for the 1st pick. Something tells me we won't get it.
For the thirteen time in 3 or one evers, I found myself toothlessly thinking about Manny Ramirez.
by camwoody on Oct 11, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the way the Panthers are playing who knows? who is worse than them? I’d say the Raiders, Browns, and maybe Rams and I doubt the Raiders or Browns would draft a QB so hopefully the Panthers suck as much as the Rams but if the Rams finish with the worst record you’re right they’ll probably have Bradford
by 49erEmpire on Oct 11, 2009 10:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
He has a stronger arm than most other QB prospects
Have you seen him play?
It’s not just his arm strength, but his leadership.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 12, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nate Davis
I think Davis could be a good starting QB if given the chance but if we were to draft a QB I would go with Sam Bradford he looks like another Matt Ryan but even though nobody thinks Tim Tebow will be good I dont see why he can’t he’s a natural born leader and IMO is the type of QB Mike Singletary would love
by 49erEmpire on Oct 11, 2009 9:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
You can't compare Ryan to Bradford
Ryan stayed in school for 5 years (redshirt freshman) and played mostly in a pro-style offense.
Bradford takes almost every single snap out of the shotgun and he’s still a junior.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 12, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(site decroum) that!!! Tebow is not going to cut it in the nfl. We have an urban myer product already sitting on the bench don’t need another one. Clausen is the best qb if we where to draft one
by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 11, 2009 10:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you may be right about him being Meyer product but Tebow is way better than Alex IMO but as I said my choice would be to go with Bradford over Clausen, Tebow, McCoy, and Jevean Snead who people say could be the next Eli Manning
by 49erEmpire on Oct 11, 2009 10:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Tebow is garbage
No on Tebow
"Optimist Prime"
Come along and ride the muthaship!
by rlott#42 on Oct 12, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
J. Snead?
He played very well near the end of last season but he has looked like garbage this season.
I don’t know what’s going on with that kid.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 12, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah 4 picks this weekend
Maybe he drops to our 2nd 1st rounder
"Optimist Prime"
Come along and ride the muthaship!
by rlott#42 on Oct 12, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he keeps this up he'll fall to the 5th round (ala Nate Davis)
Remember that Nate was kicking ass at the beginning of the season and was maybe seen as a 2nd round player.
Then he FAILED in the final two games of the season.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 12, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snead at least has accuracy and throws a decent ball. Don't know about the it factor I haven't seen him live.
"Optimist Prime"
Come along and ride the muthaship!
by rlott#42 on Oct 12, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try to watch one of his games
They have all been very painful (this season, at least)
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 12, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tebow is a Sensational college player and that's all.
Notice I didn’t say QB, the kid behind him will be better served for their offense since they don’t have as many weapons as usual.
"Optimist Prime"
Come along and ride the muthaship!
by rlott#42 on Oct 12, 2009 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see bradford as the next eli manning type qb. Clausen plays in a pro style offense which gives a little heads up on the others
by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 11, 2009 10:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"heads up"
Do you mean a leg up?
Or do you mean that makes Clausen stand a head taller than the others?
Morgan breaks through in 2009!
by grantmp on Oct 12, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A QB that has been getting a some love lately...
and a player we might be able to get in the 2nd-3rd round (unless his stock rises which it definately could) is Tony Pike, from Cincinnatti. He is 6-6, 225 but from what I am hearing he is far from a statue. Does anybody here have more info on this guy?
Hey, remember that one time when we were arguing and I was wrong? Yeah, me either.
by SanFranSoldier on Oct 11, 2009 11:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I really like him too and I don’t think he will be gone by our second 1st round pick or maybe even our 2nd round pick. Here is his stats on ESPN but that is really all I know about him other than what “so called” experts say about him. I know he has been shooting up most peoples boards but haven’t seen him play other than highlights.
by gbears16 on Oct 12, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smith is not the answer
He can make those crucial intermediate depth (10-15 yards) throws that Hill can’t, but he needs even better pass protection to succeed, because he takes even longer than Hill to get rid of the ball.
Actually I wouldn’t be opposed to drafting two OL with our 1sts next year, and putting Smith back there again, but I’d rather just start fresh and draft a franchise QB.
by znk916 on Oct 11, 2009 11:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If Hill does get benched
I pray they put in Nate Davis over Alex Smith. I do not want to see Smith run this offense again. We’ve seen that and it doesn’t work.
Davis has pocket presence, a great arm, ability to scramble, etc. While I don’t want to get him in there too soon, I would like to see him get some reps this year. He can be our future if we develop him right and get a decent O Line to protect him.
by mountaindew77 on Oct 12, 2009 12:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather lose the rest of the season,
than risk ruining Nate Davis by throwing him out there, before he’s ready, and with no protection. He’s the future. This season is just a corner turning year for the Niner’s. If we over-achieve: awesome. If not, oh well. Let’s not jeopardize the next five.
Besides: Hill had a bad game. The whole team did. It happens. Let’s see how they bounce back. No reason to start throwing everyone into the mulcher just because we’re dissapointed that we’re not quite the “Team of Destiny” that we were getting excited about.
by Krowley on Oct 12, 2009 5:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree with all of this ...
… Nate could be the future, but either way, there’s nothing to be gained in throwing him to the lions now. If we do, it’ll be history repeating itself when a desperate franchise threw Alex Smith in before his time and arguably ruined him. I could see the same thing happening with Stafford in Detroit – already with him, the little niggling injuries are starting to keep him out of games. You could imagine him becoming an Alex Smith.
They need to stick with Hill this season. He had one disastrous game – as Krowley says. The other games he’s been unspectacular but not a liability. i reckon Singletary knows that chopping and changing demonstrates a weakness of mind, and I believe he’ll get Hill back round again. Smith is a serviceable back-up, and Davis is a good youngster to school as a project. And we will have some good options around the next draft, even in spite of the Panthers finally winning.
"This could be another Very Special Team" ... Superbowl winning Niners lineman Dan Audick ...
by LondonNiner on Oct 12, 2009 5:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even Tom Brady has horrible games. There’s no reason to bench him.
Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!
by Rishi on Oct 12, 2009 6:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tom Brady is still recovering from his knee injury
He hasn’t looked like himself this season.
The difference between Tom Brady and Shaun Hill is that Brady is a proven ELITE QB.
Shaun Hill hasn’t proven anything.
That said, we can’t bench him this season, every other option sucks.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 12, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean, in general – even not injured, even elite QBs have bad games.
This one game, however embarassing, is not justification to bench Hill.
Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!
by Rishi on Oct 12, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This one game, however embarassing, is not justification to bench Hill.
This. I don’t think Hill needs to be benched. It’s hard to blame him for all that’s going wrong with that offense.
Besides, it’s pointless to bench Hill if the offensive line is going to just continue on as it is, anyway.
by sfgfan on Oct 12, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not asking for HIll to be benched
I said that already
That said, we can’t bench him this season, every other option sucks.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 12, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted yes
but there is probably a 25-30% chance Hill gets injured with all the hits he takes back there.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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by zenbitz on Oct 12, 2009 10:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
what about Jake Locker?
Kiper Jr. and McShay love that guy and say he could be the best QB in college
by 49erEmpire on Oct 12, 2009 2:27 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sold on him
This is the same Jake Locker that QB’d one of the worst teams in Division 1 football history in the winless Washington Huskies of 2008.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Oct 12, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't the Angels (MLB) draft him already?
I know that it doesn’t affect his NFL draft eligibility, but still….
But yeah, he disappointed me in the ND game, he forgot to read the defense on the final few plays of that game tying 4th quarter drive.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 12, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brady Quinn is probably available
I’m not convinced that he’s nearly as horrible as Cleveland has made him appear to be. I would think he could be had for a song.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Oct 12, 2009 2:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Eh
I’m sure you’re going to meet with quite a bit of opposition. I didn’t think he was worth what the Browns gave up to get him, in the first place.
by sfgfan on Oct 12, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In retrospect probably no
But at the time it was a shocker that he was still around and he was definitely a first round pick kind of talent at the time.
As I said, I’m not convinced that he’s as terrible as the Browns have made him out to be. Personally, I still think we should stand pat with Shaun Hill for now and continue to bolster our lines with the two first rounders this year.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Oct 12, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I still think we should stand pat with Shaun Hill for now and continue to bolster our lines with the two first rounders this year.
My usual stance on predicting the draft still stands (i.e. I don’t like to specify names a whole season before the draft), but I wouldn’t be wholly opposed to taking a QB high. If they DO do it, though, I can only hope they do it because they truly believe the guy was worth it, and not just because they feel like they need a QB. I agree both lines and, in my opinion, the secondary and pass rush, can use a lot of help with those higher picks (four in the first three rounds).
by sfgfan on Oct 12, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not convinced that he’s nearly as horrible as Cleveland has made him appear to be.
I am.
Cleveland’s O-line is probably better than ours and he still sucked.
He refused to throw the deep ball, held on to the ball too long, fumbled and just generally sucked.
He looked like the typical QB bust.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 12, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent description . . . oh wait you're talking about Cleveland's QB
by bignerd on Oct 12, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It applies to Alex Smith (bust)
But that’s what Quinn looked like.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 12, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm getting really sick of Shaun Hill
I think we did the right thing naming him the starter. I think he did enough last season to earn it. Clearly Smith didn’t do anything to prove that assumption wrong in the preseason. Yes, Hill is a “winner,” he plays well in the clutch, he has “moxie” etc. But I’m starting to feel like all these intangibles are all that Hill has and the problem is that those things are by definition not tangible. Which also means they aren’t helping us win games. Anymore. He was downright awful yesterday – clearly all the blame can’t fall on him but let’s face it – he will never be more than an average QB at BEST.
Watch a really good QB play (i.e. watch Peyton Manning last night). What do great QBs do? They are accurate passing the ball, they read the defense and don’t stare down their only read on every throw, they move intelligently in the pocket to avoid pressure.
Hill? Inaccurate. Looks at his receiver from the moment the ball is snapped and doesn’t seem to go through a progression. Always backpedals whenever there is pressure and runs into sacks.
Now I’m not saying we should bench him and put Smith in right away. But I do think we need to realize that we aren’t going to have a great offense with him, ever. Maybe not even a good offense. Smith still has a lot to prove but I think over time he might give us a better chance. I would have liked to see him play in garbage time yesterday.
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
by wjackalope on Oct 12, 2009 3:53 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Read my mind
Esp this:
But I’m starting to feel like all these intangibles are all that Hill has and the problem is that those things are by definition not tangible. Which also means they aren’t helping us win games.
I rambled on in fanpost trying to get this point across.
I guess I just suck at writing.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 12, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smith still has a lot to prove but I think over time he might give us a better chance. I would have liked to see him play in garbage time yesterday.
I definitely have fallen off the “ALEX SMITH FOR PRESIDENT” bandwagon, but it definitely would have been nice to see him garbage time yesterday. I’m not as sure anymore that Smith has what it takes to be an NFL QB, but I don’t think it would have hurt to throw him out there toward the end of the game.
by sfgfan on Oct 12, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lefever
what about that kid from central michigan? lefever i think his name is. hes got a gun or the guy from toledo? i think these are good 3rd to 4th round pickups based on the fact they didnt come out of a top notch college. plus ive watched the kid from central michigan the last 2 seasons hes got good ability too bad he’s not at a big time colleged he’d be balling out. i rather spend our 1st round picks on a stud lineman and a good playmaking safety (taylor maze, eric berry) . thats our priority. second round hopefully we get lucky n get a stud pass rushing DE to compliment justin smith on the other side. all in all we are still a good team with a few pieces missing to return us to our proper spot atop the NFL again.
by Nesto415 on Oct 12, 2009 11:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Forget cannon arm QB's
If there is no accuracy there’s no point. Chad Henne looked great tonight
"Optimist Prime"
Come along and ride the muthaship!
by rlott#42 on Oct 12, 2009 11:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Henne
He’s got decent arm strength and good accuracy.
His O-line is great though.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 13, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we should follow Parcells’ college QB criteria when drafting QBs from now on.
by gbears16 on Oct 13, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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