Mike Singletary Approval Rating, Week 5
Well this is certainly an interesting week to run the Mike Singletary approval rating. Last week Singletary rocked a 99% approval with only 9 our of 1,122 votes being in the negative. Given the 35-0 whuppin of the Rams it was not even remotely shocking. Then Sunday happened. ESPN's current coach's rating has seen Singletary drop from 96% in week 4 to 86% in week 5. After Sunday's debacle it's not exactly shocking.
We've obviously heard plenty about Coach Singletary's handling of the Dre Bly situation yesterday. For those that missed it, Dre Bly basically came out and publicly apologized for his actions in Sunday's loss. Initially I was going to use this spot to discuss Singletary's handling of these sorts of situations. It's an interesting angle, but something that, frankly, has been beaten to death.
Thankfully, after looking through Singletary's Monday press conference transcript, some interesting comments jumped out at me, and I wanted to get everybody's thoughts on them. In his opening statement, Singletary said:
The biggest thing for us is as a team, we learned that preparation is everything and yesterday was one of those situations where on the defensive side of the ball, it felt like they had a great game plan and we had a difficult time getting on track and after awhile, the points, 14 points, I think some of our guys were like, ‘Wait a minute, they are not supposed to have 14 points. Now I’ve got to make my own play. I’ve got to make a play,’ and I think we got out of character early on. We just continued to try and settle guys down to just do your job, but once again, the preparation as a coaching staff, starting with me, was not great and we just did not do a good job overall. When that happens it makes it difficult."
Coach Singletary closed his comments as well saying:
As a staff, we did not do a good job preparing for a team [coming off of] a bye week, but going forward, we will come back and we will get better and we will be a team for our fans to be proud of, but I thank you very much."
Can somebody explain that to me? The extent of my coaching career was assisting a friend in coaching a little league baseball team for four or five games. So, Vince Lombardi, I am not. We know about the offensive struggles. We will not dwell too much on that for the purposes of this discussion. In looking at the defensive struggles, would increased preparation (whatever that might actually be) have made a difference? How difficult is it to know you need to cover Roddy White and you need to keep an eye on Michael Turner? Can someone help clarify this whole situation?
Opening Statements:
"Obviously, this is a busy day of just trying to get the game yesterday figured out. Figuring out some of the issues that we had yesterday and the reason why we lost the game, how we lost the game, those sorts of things. The biggest thing for us is as a team, we learned that preparation is everything and yesterday was one of those situations where on the defensive side of the ball, it felt like they had a great game plan and we had a difficult time getting on track and after awhile, the points, 14 points, I think some of our guys were like, ‘Wait a minute, they are not supposed to have 14 points. Now I’ve got to make my own play. I’ve got to make a play,’ and I think we got out of character early on. We just continued to try and settle guys down to just do your job, but once again, the preparation as a coaching staff, starting with me, was not great and we just did not do a good job overall. When that happens it makes it difficult."
On CB Dre’ Bly:
"Let me elaborate a bit on that. When Dre’ came in, it’s one of those things I didn’t really expect. I thought that I was going to have to go to him because I didn’t even notice all the other stuff, the hand behind the head and all of that. I didn’t even notice that yesterday. I just knew he caught the ball, and the next thing I knew, there was a fumble. But, when I saw him holding the ball the way he was holding it, I knew there was a good chance that it would come out. By him coming to me and saying the things that he said, it really took off a lot of the thought process, in terms of where I was going to go with it because we are – we’re not trying to – we are building something here, something that will be special, and it is going to be a process. But, yesterday, that was just something that, as a 49er, that’s just something that we won’t do. I think now he understands that, and, like I said, I didn’t see it yesterday, but for him to go forward and acknowledge that without me having to ask him to do that, I appreciate that from him. That’s who I was hoping he was when he came here. It was good to hear."
On whether he has disciplined Bly:
"I have not."
On whether he will discipline him:
"No."
On throwing TE Vernon Davis off the field last year for what might be a lesser incident:
"In a lesser incident?"
On Davis not losing the football:
"Let me put it this way: He didn’t have the football either. As the coach I have to make a decision to make sure that I make the right decision in certain situations. What Dre’ Bly did yesterday, as I said before, I didn’t see all of the other stuff. The timing of it and everything else, if I would have acknowledged that there was any Deion [Sanders] whatever, I probably would have handled differently. No, I wouldn’t probably, I would have handled it differently. But, I didn’t see that, and that’s just like Vernon. If I didn’t see what was happening, but I was interacting with Vernon, at the time yesterday I was dealing with something else and just kind of was looking at the ball. I saw the ball go down. I didn’t see all of the other stuff, but I’m not going to come back today and say, ‘Hey, you know what? You did this yesterday, and this is what I’m going to…’ No, I don’t think that’s right. In my eyes, I don’t think that’s right. To me, I’m going to do it when it happens. I think the most effective way to deal with something is when it happens. Yes, I can come back and take some money. OK, what is that? I’m not going to do that? So, anyway."
On how he learned about it:
"All you have to do is sit down and look at the television for a little bit or talk to some of the coaches."
On whether Bly has apologized to his teammates:
"Dre’ is going to apologize to practically everybody in the building."
On whether Bly is being unfairly depicted as a scapegoat:
"Do I think what now?"
On Bly being unfairly scapegoated:
"Dre’? How is he unfairly scapegoated?"
On the Bly’s fumble coming when the game was 35-10:
"But where would the word scapegoat come from? That has nothing to do with anything happening."
On whether the blame for the loss is being put on Bly:
"Not in my mind. If we’re talking about a scapegoat, I’m going to bring him up here and I’m going to say, ‘You know what? That was awful. That was bad what you did. And I’m going to do this, this, this and this.’ That’s scapegoating. OK? But to say, ‘You know what? You apologize, that’s something you want to do. That’s something you need to do. You go ahead and deal with that.’ That’s why I let him come up here and talk about it as a man – as I try to treat all of our players and let him deal with it so that you didn’t have to ask me something that he addressed. To me, it’s done. But to use the word scapegoat, I don’t understand that because scapegoat to me means that that’s who you put it on. And, I don’t think anybody is doing that. OK? That’s what I’m trying to say."
On Bly’s comments after the game and whether he wants his players to express themselves:
"I’ll put it this way: I don’t think that’s fun. OK? It was not fun. It was not fun. It’s not fun at 35-10. Fun is when you’re ahead and you may get an interception, and hey, that’s great. That’s fun. But, you’re not having fun when you’re behind 35-10, and that’s a little something that he and I have to clean up because that’s not fun."
On when Bly came to him:
"This morning."
On whether Bly said he wanted to address the media:
"What I told him was, ‘If what you’re saying is what you really mean, then this is what I want you to do. I would like for you, instead of me trying to explain something, I want you to go up there and express your opinions. You can do it for the media. You can do it for the team. You can do it for the team. You can the defense. You can do it for the offense. You can do it for everybody in the office.’ But, to me, it says a lot about him. Even though he did what he did yesterday, it says a lot about him to say, ‘You know what Coach? You are right. I was way out of line. I was wrong, and I’m willing to do that because that’s not me. I want to make this right because I do believe there’s something special here and I want to be a part of that going forward.’ And, that’s basically where we went with it."
On S Michael Lewis’ status:
"A third concussion. Once again, it was a situation in which he did have the concussion, and afterwards, he cleared right away, meaning that he was coherent. He understood everything that was happening, which is a very good sign. So, now it’s one of those things we have to really look at and watch day-to-day and see where it goes."
On whether it makes sense for Lewis to continue to play football:
"I’m not a doctor. I can’t make that assessment."
On Lewis leading with his head on the play he was injured:
"Anytime you have your head down, they try to teach you in Pop Warner football, you never have your head down because it is at its weakest point. So yes, that’s not good."
On the status of LB Jeff Ulbrich:
"The biggest thing about Jeff, as in Mike, we are continuing to evaluate there and we want to do all the testing we can just to make sure everything is right because everything is about them. When it comes to injuries, I want to make sure that there’s not a player on the field – practice field or playing field – that has some type of injury that could harm them going forward."
On whether QB Shaun Hill missed some throws against Atlanta:
"You know, there was maybe one or two throws that if you take a step back, if he throws it just right, he could make that throw. But I think sometimes quarterbacks get in a situation where, you become trained where, ‘I’m not having enough time and if I see this blitz here, if I am confident and I feel everything is going well here and we are picking things up, I can wait an extra step and get rid of that thing.’ But it wasn’t happening like that. I just felt like overall, the inconsistency in terms of the blitz pickups that were occurring caused him to get rid of the ball prematurely sometimes."
On whether Atlanta put extra emphasis on defending the short routes:
"It was more a case of some of the offensive line breakdown in terms of the pass protection. It was more of that, and we will address that this week, next week. We might have to make some changes there going forward. It was more that than them. It was more some of the things we were doing on our side, just making sure we understood the proper protection."
On why Hill and TE Vernon Davis did not appear to be on the same page:
"I think it is a combination of both. There are a couple of things we added this week. Vernon had to turn right now, but it was one of those things where the blitz was there and it didn’t get picked up and Shaun either got picked up, but Vernon didn’t have his head turned around. Or it didn’t get picked up and he had to let the ball go."
On when Davis is supposed to look for the ball:
"It depends on the type of protection it is, or which blitz pickup it is. Sometimes when he is going out of there, it is right now – it is hot right now. There are other times when you take a couple of steps and see if that safety is going to come down, then you have a chance to turn out or turn in. It just didn’t work."
On whether the right guard position is his biggest concern:
"Quite possible. Quite possible."
On whether RB Frank Gore will return to practice this week:
"Yes. I expect him to be back this week. How much? I don’t know."
On the biggest issue that needs to be addressed during the bye week:
"To make sure we look at the 53 guys on this football team and to make sure the 53 we have, whatever changes we need to make, that we make them now. Whatever things we need to clean up, we clean up then begin to go forward with that. I think that is the most important thing, to make sure we have the 53 guys that are going to be with us these next 11-plus games going forward."
On when he will evaluate the 53-man roster:
"Sometime this week. Sometime this week."
On whether CB Allen Rossum was a healthy scratch and what he is looking for in the return game:
"He was a healthy scratch this past week. As far as [TE] Delanie [Walker] on the kickoff, Delanie has done a good job on the kickoff. I thought he did a good job yesterday. Unfortunately he had the ball come out, down by contact, however it is. As far as Allen Rossum is concerned, we had [WR] Arnaz [Battle] do that. We also have a couple of other guys that can do that, so we just have to look at that position going forward accordingly."
On whether he might add player to the team that are not on the practice squad:
"Right now, a number of things are possible, but all I can tell you right now is that we are going to look at the 53 that we have and make sure that, with the roster changes, if there are any roster changes going forward, that we just have to make sure that we solidify, at every position, with everybody that’s on this 53 in particular the 45 on Sunday, those guys give us the best chance of winning."
On whether WR Michael Crabtree will remain at the facility during the bye week:
"Yes, he’s already had his bye week. He’s had a long bye week."
On whether he’s expecting the 49ers to be active before the trading deadline:
"I don’t know. I haven’t gotten quite that far."
On his former University of Baylor coaches being at the facility:
"This is my defensive coordinator when I was in college, his name is Corky Nelson. He taught me everything that I know about linebacking. As a matter of fact, he about killed me in college and I hated him in college because he hurt me. He’s the best coach that I know to teach the fundamentals of linebacking. I can honestly say that everything that I know about linebacking, I learned from him. He wanted to come out and I’m very thankful, I’m very blessed by him, his wife, and some other friends from Baylor. I wanted to allow him to come in and listen to this. He said he wanted to it, I don’t know why, but he said he wanted to listen to it."
Closing statement:
"The last thing that I want to say is this – I’m not going to apologize to the fans again, but the one thing that I want you to know after a game like yesterday it’s a situation in where you kind of sit back and go ‘Wow, I didn’t really know that could happen again.’ And the thing I will say is this, this team will be a special team, this year will be a special year. It’s unfortunate as to what happened yesterday. As a staff, we did not do a good job preparing for a team [coming off of] a bye week, but going forward, we will come back and we will get better and we will be a team for our fans to be proud of, but I thank you very much."
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I still approve
Unlike Nolan, I don’t think Sing will let the Atlanta game hang over this team for the rest of the season.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 13, 2009 8:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the big picture
All our loses were either tragic or epic. But our record against the division is 3-0 and we have to win in our divison 1st (which we are doing great) and we have to win on the road. Nobody expected us to go undefeated this season. That is why we have to win at least 2-3 games before we fight in the divison again. I want to win all the games from this point on, so the true fans are still here!
Let’s get the division
Revenge is a dish best served in the playoffs!
by chriscream on Oct 13, 2009 8:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree
Concentrate on the division, because that’s what really matters in the big picture. For right now though this team has to get back on track when they face Houston in two weeks.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 13, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling that Coach Sing is going to shake things up a bit in the next two weeks.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
by Eastbayjim on Oct 13, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s going to have to after last week’s performance.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 13, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, in my opinion the O-line might be a changed a little. Is Rachal doing the poorest job on the interior of the O-line?
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Also the Right Tackle is still a weak spot for the line.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 13, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well where the heck will be a change made there?
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the problem
There really isn’t anyone who can replace Rachal.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 13, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wragge
Not saying he’s got hidden Pro-Bowl ability, but not completely whiffing on pass rushing D-Tackles 3-4x per game will make quite a difference.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sims at RT, Pashos at RG, Wragge at LG.
Sims has played RT before and the position doesn’t require the feet LT does. Pashos has played OG before and has better feet than either Rachal or Baas. Wragge can’t be much worse than Baas at LG. This configuration would improve the pass pro without much falloff in run blocking. If Staley were injured, Sims would switch sides and Snyder replace him at RT. Something to think about, anyway – couldn’t be much worse than what we have now.
by MontanaPass on Oct 13, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sims has played RT before …
Yeah, last year when he was a FAIL.
by sfgfan on Oct 13, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember that game versus the Dolphins?
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But is he worse than Snyder/Pashos?
I agree he isn’t the greatest OT in the world, but that isn’t the question here. The question is which combination of O-linemen on the roster provides us with the best chance to win, and it certainly isn’t the present one. Alternatively, McClo could bring in someone else, but then he would have to learn our system and adjust to new linemates.
by MontanaPass on Oct 13, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, great piont, is he really worse than Snyder or Pashos. Plus he knows the system, and it’s better than bringing in someone from free agency to fill in right off the bat since he’d have to learn what to do and that wouldn’t take less than a week at all.
by PiKAgiant on Oct 13, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
You’ll note, since the opener the main problem along the line has been the Guards not RT. I would take both Snyder and Pashos over Sims. I would bet that if Sims were more trustworthy over there he’d be playing.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big picture thinking? (why I voted 'no' this week)
I know that the goal is to Win the West but if Singletary plans on doing even that, it’ll take more than just winning against the teams you play 6 times a year. Last time I checked you need about 9 wins, and 1) you can’t just pencil in 6 W’s for the games against the Cards, ’Hawks, and Rams, and 2) after the Lions, who on the schedule is a pushover? The Bears? The Jags?
The Big Picture thinking that I don’t see happening under Singletary is discussed in this article by Kevin Lynch:
PREPARATION: Singletary blamed himself and his coaching staff for not preparing the team. While Shaun Hill and Alex Smith did additional research on the Falcons coming out of the bye, the coaches should have done the same thing. Then, maybe, they would have seen that Atlanta has the capacity to blitz and play man coverage with lots of blitzes.
With the 49ers strong run emphasis, teams are apt to change their defensive approach. The Vikings were predominantly a cover 2 team but against the 49ers they went with eight men in the box and played more man coverage.
It’s great that Singletary is a great motivator, and that he prepares the team emotionally. But there’s a point at which you’ve failed your team by not preparing them tactically for what they’re going to face. When the other team makes an adjustment that you can’t match, you can yell, stomp and scream, you can ‘drop trou’, you can ‘have a consistent message’ all you want, and that won’t help.
Does the “shaking up” that people are calling for involve the coaching staff spending a little more time in the film room?
Morgan breaks through in 2009!
by grantmp on Oct 13, 2009 8:31 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I kind of see what you're saying.
While Singletary definitely doesn’t have a hand in the final gameplanning or scheming, he should have the ability to nudge it in one direction or the other. Over the course of the first few weeks, the 49ers have been playing “their game,” without much regard to what the other team is doing. That works against weaker teams, but when you have an inferior team going up against the better teams in the league, you should definitely consider altering your gameplan to at least counter what the other team is doing.
Hopefully the loss and the bye will make Manusky and Raye think about that very issue a little bit more.
by sfgfan on Oct 13, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much of that do you then put on Raye?
Not adjusting to Atlanta’s blitzes and man coverage by still calling plays designed to attack a zone defense would seem to rest more at the feet of the coordinator. Particularly when his QB was prepared for this and I’m sure mentioned as much during the game.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I mentioned in my comment just above yours...
The coordinator DOES hold the responsibility of making the actual adjustments, but even if Singletary is just the CEO, he has the power to order them to do things. Singletary’s almost content to let the coordinators continue to call things that don’t work.
by sfgfan on Oct 13, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think but don't know that Sing gives people a long leash
Until they show they abuse it. I understand his desire to let your coaches call their game, much like letting players work through their technique issues. But at some point his patience runs out, as with Rachal now. I think Sunday was the kind of performance that will allow him to interject himself into Raye’s plan/play calling and listen to his QB during a game.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
… and listen to his QB during a game.
On could only hope, even if the QB is Hill.
While I’m all for “winning it our way” thing, you definitely need to make adjustments in order to beat the elite teams in the league (i.e. Patriots, Giants, Colts, etc). Heck, the Patriots are run by one of the greatest schemers of our generation and the Colts have a guy making adjustments 24/7 AT THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE.
by sfgfan on Oct 13, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
adjustments
the Patriots are run by one of the greatest schemers of our generation
I understand that different coaches have different skill sets, and obviously Singletary’s is motivation. But if you’re short on X’s and O’s, doesn’t it behoove you to pick coaches who can pick up that side of things a bit more? One of the things you notice about the Patriots is that their game plan varies more from week to week than does that of many other teams. Another thing you notice about them is that after halftime, they tend to come out with different things than they came out with in the first half.
I’m all for "winning it our way"
Perhaps much of this is the fact that this is a team that hasn’t had the kind of longer-term success and continuity; perhaps they feel the need to establish a certain level of familiarity with the different kinds of packages and looks that they can give the opposition on both offense and defense—so that they can pull out a certain package in a specific situation and run with it—they can say ‘remember what the Ravens did to us three years ago, and how we came out with a spread formation to counter their 4-6, etc. etc.’ So maybe this is impatience. But 45-10 means that whatever they’re doin’ ain’t workin’.
Morgan breaks through in 2009!
by grantmp on Oct 13, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good observations.
Having coaches capable of countering opposing game plans and adjustments appears to be a quality this team lacks. Doing things “your way” is fine up until the point where it becomes obvious it isn’t working. Then somebody has to intervene and adjust the game plan.
by MontanaPass on Oct 13, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Familiarity
I totally get what you’re saying about familiarity. However, you actually have to try things that can succeed before you can go back three years later and point to it. I guess it is impatience, but I just would like to see some kind of adjustment.
The game Sunday almost felt like the 49ers were blindsided by the Falcons’ gameplan on offense AND defense and the coaching staff just quit trying.
by sfgfan on Oct 13, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do we know they didn't adjust?
And still got outplayed. Our guys really had an awful day and when they did make plays (Bly’s INT, two forced fumbles by Willis) it still didn’t work out. We also have to admit that with Hill throwing behind this O-line, a three score deficit without Gore is not going to be overcome and likely will not look pretty while trying to play catchup.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know...
… that I can’t say it for sure. I also understand that the offense was painted into a corner. However, the defense, the bread and butter of the 49ers this season, just flat out couldn’t stop the other team. I’m pretty certain that the 49ers’ defensive DVOA is going to get killed this week, much like the Raiders’ probably did, too. I’ll have to wait until Danny puts those stats up, though.
by sfgfan on Oct 13, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
But look at the TD drive chart for the first half; three of their TDs came on drives for 54 yards or less. The two turnovers gave ATL a short field plus the KO turnover put the D right back on the field. The offense didn’t help by going three and out before and after those drives. The only long scoring drive was three plays due to the blitz (an adjustment) and missed tackle. It was really was a what can go wrong will go wrong kind of game.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goo dpoints
Of course any team comparing its coaching staff to NE is going to come up at least a bit short. They not only have a top guy in BB, they’ve had stability and promoted from within. Having the same system and the ability to pormote your own people makes a huge difference. So does knowing each other so well that communication can almost be unspoken. We don’t have that and have not since the 90s. Again, I see this season as year one in building toward being a consistent winner. Even BB was 5-11 his first year in NE and missed the playoffs in two of his first three years. You gotta have patience.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have no grounds to say that
unless you were at practice and the film rooms all week with the team. Sometimes the ball just bounces the other way. Last Sunday was a classica case of that. Yes there were maybe a few things we could have done differently but hindsight is always 20/20.
Singletary did not fail the team; I see it quite the other way around. They failed him.
by Drew K on Oct 13, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh.
I don’t think you can call a 45-10 thumping a result of the ball just “bouncing the other way.” Luck is definitely involved in the NFL, but not to a 35-point deficit. The defense had no answers to the Roddy White or the Falcons offense. The offense had players on the wrong pages on plays. Yes, the players failed, but when a team loses that badly, the coaches failed, as well.
by sfgfan on Oct 13, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps he means...
…preparing mentally.
by Bigmouth on Oct 13, 2009 8:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
one loss won't change my vote
I don’t think any of us ever thought that Sing was a good coach because he’s going to out-scheme anybody. He’s not Belichik. For that reason he needs coordinators that can handle the schemes and the game-planning. Unfortunately Jimmy Raye may not be that guy. As for the defense – I’m not sure what to say. The coaching as a whole failed last week – but I’m willing to give them soem more chances before I change my vote.
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
by wjackalope on Oct 13, 2009 9:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As of right now I'm not approving.
Atlanta does NOT field a team that is vastly superior to our own but it looked like it on Sunday.
by Ninjames on Oct 13, 2009 9:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Really?
I watched the plays closely that killed us. They had a max protect with Gonzalez blocking to pick up our blitz that comes from the outside and not up the middle. THen Mark Roman took a ridiculous angle to make a tackle and then was burnt for 90 yards. Our defensive schem to blitz is horrible, and our players had a lot of mental lapses. Atlanta’s coaching staff had two weeks to prepare and we had one. They have a franchise QB we don’t, a clear number 1 WR and we don’t. Their offensive line is good, ours isn’t and since we hae 3 holes on the OL outta 5, we’re gonna have problems executing. The Falcons haven’t played to their potential this year until they faced us. This was an 11 win team with a rookie QB……………Superior!
"Optimist Prime"
Come along and ride the muthaship!
by rlott#42 on Oct 13, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Mark Roman
Nate Clemments.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 13, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with the assessment
They showed they are better, certainly at QB, OL and experience in their offensive system. Those will win most weeks. But they are not 45-10 better, in any stadium. That game got out of hand with self inflicted errors that Atlanta had nothing to do with (Coffee leaving the field, Bly’s fumble, missed FG).
Still, I view this as a big picture not week to week thing so I approve. It’s our best record at the bye since… 2002?
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know. It looks to me like they have clear advantages at almost every offensive position. Would you rather have Hill or Ryan? VD or TG? Gore/Coffee or Turner/Norwood? Bruce or Michael Jenkins? Bruce or Roddy White for that matter?
And I can’t exactly speak to their O-line with much confidence, but I’m almost at the point where I’ll trade with most teams in the league.
Defensively it’s a lot closer, but those are HUGE gaps in talent between the two teams on offense.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 13, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much better would our WRs look
If they had Ryan throwing behind his line? And how would White and Jenkins look running routes in our system with Hill throwing behind his line?
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obvioulsy any WR would look terrible in this offense
But you know that Roddy White >>>>> Issac Bruce.
That’s pretty much indisputable.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 13, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I the 49ers made it look that way
Roddy White >>>>> Issac Bruce.
Probably more like
Roddy White >> Issac Bruce
by bignerd on Oct 13, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
White was the best WR for either team
Then I’d take Morgan over Jenkins. But I’d take whichever is being thrown to by Ryan behind his line.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So then you would take Shaun Hill over Matt Ryan? You would prefer Isaac Bruce to Ruddy White?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 13, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope - didn't say that
I’d take Ryan behind his line throwing to either group of receivers over Hill behind his line throwing to either group of receivers. And I’d take White over all receivers in Sunday’s game. But I think White would have much worse numbers had he been playing with us.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t disagree with that, but I think it’s confusing the point. I’m just trying to see where we disagree. On a player-to-player basis, it seems like the Falcons are better than us everywhere.
Hell, I’d take Shaun Hill behind Ryan’s line than Ryan behind our line. That doesn’t mean I think Shaun Hill is the better option, all things being equal.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 13, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Other than White, I don’t think the talent gap is siginificant with respect to receivers, TEs or RBs (if Gore had been healthy). I’d also take Staley and Heitman over their respective ATL equivalents. No doubt that the Atlanta Guards and RT are superior to ours. What I was saying is that their overall line play allows their players to look even better than ours. If the lines as a group were flipped, it would appear we have better talent on offense even though as you say Hill is not the better option to Ryan (with which I agree).
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol @ rose colored glasses
Other than White, I don’t think the talent gap is siginificant with respect to receivers, TEs or RBs (if Gore had been healthy).
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
by GameSix on Oct 13, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol @ rose colored blockquote. :P
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 13, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm maybe that explains the pervasive optimism around here? rose colored errythang
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
by GameSix on Oct 14, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
errrybody on the blog gettin’ optmistic
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 14, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I approve of Sing
Not the position coaches though. WR coach sucks and DB’s coach suck, where’s Rice and Lott when you need them?
"Optimist Prime"
Come along and ride the muthaship!
by rlott#42 on Oct 13, 2009 9:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Overall yess
Last week no. The Niners were woefully unprepared for the Falcons. We had a top five defense going into this game. You couldn’t have told that from the way we played.
The Falcons offensive coordinator had our number dialed up—and we kept on doing whatever it was that we were doing. Consistency is nice, but you’ve got to be able to adjust to the situation. This is the problem I have on both sides of the ball actually. When it works, that’s good. Keep it.
If it’s not working you need to change it up and try something new. We didn’t do that Sunday with the defense and we haven’t done that at all offensively.
by smileyman on Oct 13, 2009 9:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Still with Singletary
As a whole, the entire team failed together. It will happen from to time. This should open up some eyes. Every team may experiences a major blowout. This was ours.
by LASVEGASNINER on Oct 13, 2009 9:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
preparation
i think he means…
in terms of the OFF, the coaching staff didn’t prepare them well enough as far as knowing blocking assignments, route adjustments, etc. against ATL’s D.
this showed itself in VD and hill not being on the same page when ATL kept cutting underneath VD’s routes. also, fooch, go back and look at some specific plays to see how the niners had a man advantage on run plays and pass plays, yet ATL was still able to get penetration simply because the OL didn’t have a clue about how to block ATL’s nickel defense, which ATL played as practically their base D throughout the 1st 20 minutes (i.e., even before it was a massacre).
in the running game, my favorite “lack of prep” play in this regard was at 9:17 of the game rewind. go check it out. the niners have 2 TEs on the strong side of the formation, giving them 7 blockers against ATL’s nickel D. they run the ball with coffee, and the entire line moves left, sealing the hole, except for the fact that rachal goes to double-team a guy that’s already blocked, leaving the nickel LB free to just run unblocked into the backfield and stop coffee for a loss. rachal ends up on the ground blocking no one at the end of the play. if he blocks the right guy there, it’s a big gain.
in the passing game, my favorite “lack of prep” play was at 35:32 of the game rewind. again, ATL’s in nickel, but this time the niners are in a 3 WR set, with 2 of the 3 lined up on the right side of the formation. with VD on the line, they have 6 blockers vs. 6 potential rushers. the slot DB lined up against walker blitzes, which sets off a cascade of “no clue how to adjust” events. first, hill doesn’t recognize it, so he doesn’t even think about hitting walker, who ends up wide open coming off the line. it also doesn’t help that hill locks in on morgan after the snap. but, more importantly, although VD picks up the blitzing DB beautifully, the strongside nickel LB and the LDE both attack the same hole between pashos and rachal. pashos releases the DE to rachal so that he can pick up the LB that’s coming in after him, but rachal thinks pashos is blocking the DE, so he releases him too and then just looks around for someone to block as pashos blocks the LB. so, what ends up happening is that pashos ends up having to block 2 guys on the play, rachal blocks nobody, and the LDE, who rachal let walk through ends up hitting hill and causing an incompletion, while rachal ends the play — i have to admit it’s hilarious — just literally standing 3 yards in front of the rest of the blockers looking around for someone to block.
so go check em out. those are two instances of where not preparing well enough made the niners OFF fail to recognize what ATL’s D was doing. i really think ATL spent the bye saying to themselves, “we can sit in nickel the whole game because their OL sucks.” SF wasn’t expecting that, and so they had no clue how to adjust to it. that’s a failure to prepare.
by Florida Danny on Oct 13, 2009 10:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i really think ATL spent the bye saying to themselves, "we can sit in nickel the whole game because their OL sucks." SF wasn’t expecting that, and so they had no clue how to adjust to it. that’s a failure to prepare.
That happens. A team will keep playing the same style until someone finds an answer to beat them. Otherwise the coach gets lampooned in the post game for switching game plans when it’s worked all season.
I’m still holding off all my o-line comments until the official thread.
by bignerd on Oct 13, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's going to be...
… an official Offensive LOLine thread?
by sfgfan on Oct 13, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA
fooch, i think NN should start officially referring to the line as the LOLffensive LOLine, or LOL for short, until they start playing half decent.
by Florida Danny on Oct 13, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Those two plays make Rachal sound epically bad.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 13, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he attacks the senses
if you watch both plays again. he looks bad, the description makes him sound bad, and watching it made me feel bad.
by Florida Danny on Oct 13, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it also made me
vomit in my mouth, so it tasted bad too…and since its quality was akin to cow manure, it smelled bad as well. there you go…all 5 senses bombarded by two chilo rachal fails.
by Florida Danny on Oct 13, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next time you go to a FLA restaurant....
And see a “Chilo Jamon Burger”, go for a salad instead.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Oct 14, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
for anyone who...
…doesn’t have game rewind, and instead has to consult their DVR, the first play i mentioned here is at 11:08 left in the 1st quarter…the 2nd one is at 14:18 left in the 2nd quarter.
by Florida Danny on Oct 13, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pass play
The second play (the pass play) seemed to develop pretty quickly. Hill never even looked to his right and thus never saw the blitzer or the wide open Walker. Given how it was a quick drop and throw was it really something he was going to adjust to? Or was the play designed to be a quick pass?
I will agree though that Rachal blew it on the pass coverage.
by Fooch on Oct 13, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, it was more...
a rachal fail. that’s why i said, “more importantly” in the sentence in re rachal on that play. what i meant about hill was that he didn’t recognize the blitz pre-snap, and that’s something based on preparation. if he had, he would have either (a) audibled (but i’m not sure he’s allowed to audible in this offense) or (b) immediately thrown to walker, who was wide open, rather than locking in on morgan immediately.
by Florida Danny on Oct 13, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
recognize the blitz
Would he have been able to sense it from the angle the slot DB was standing? Because he didn’t break in until after the snap.
by Fooch on Oct 13, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not necessarily...
from the angle, but if it’s something ATL has done in previous games from that formation, they would have identified it during the week. if they hadn’t shown that at all in previous games, then it’s not hill’s bad at all for not recognizing it. if they did show it previously, however, then that’s a preparation fail.
by Florida Danny on Oct 13, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read yesterday
(sorry no link) that Hill and Smith had studied the ATL defense going back to ast year and assumed (correctly it turns out) that though the Falcons were mostly a zone team, they might blitz more as a change coming out of their bye. Which is what happened. I think he was prepared, he may have just misread that blitz which would’ve gone unnoticed with better blocking from Rachal.
Also, I recall reading in preseason that unlike last year with Martz, Hill would be able to audible this season.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that''
Morgan breaks through in 2009!
by grantmp on Oct 13, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that article is the kevin lynch one I linked earlier
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ninerinsider/detail?blogid=45&entry_id=49389
Morgan breaks through in 2009!
by grantmp on Oct 13, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for that
I also heard Sing on the radio talking about the plays that Hill and Vd missed on. Seems at least one of them was a misread by Vernon but a couple others the mistake was in the blocking. If the line picks up the blitz, we have VD running downfield one on one. Missed plays because we can’t block.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everybody gets one screwup. Still rolling with Sing.
This was a bad game all around, with every unit making serious mistakes and playing below their potential, so I’m chalking this game up as an outlier, an abnormal game. The mental mistakes, unnecessary penalties, and coaching weaknesses were all responsible for this debacle. I’m not ready to abandon ship yet.
But it is obvious that something needs to be done about the OL, especially at RG and RT.
by MontanaPass on Oct 13, 2009 10:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Defensive coaching
I didn’t see a lot issues to blame the loss on the defensive coaches. The team didn’t generate a pass rush which gave Ryan all day and thus the initial 14-0 lead. With a passing attack like Atlanta the question is do you blitz or drop back? The drop back strategy worked against the Cardinals. The team adjusted to a blitzing scheme but than Nate Clements missed his tackle in 1 on 1 coverage and gave up a 90 yard TD off a 9 yard out.
The Falcons had some success running the ball but three of Turners big runs came off cut backs. Like Singletary’s statements, guys were out of position trying to make a big play. The cut back run didn’t start to work until after Walker’s fumble and the team went into panic mode. After the half it was garbage time.
by bignerd on Oct 13, 2009 10:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The team didn’t generate a pass rush
someone brought this up as a cause of worry before the game, i think in a player rankings post or something…don’t remember who…oh, yeah, it was me:
What makes matters worse is that the secondary is unlikely to be getting much help from the pass rush this week given that ATL has the #1 OL in the league when it comes to pass-blocking: they give up less than 1 sack per 30 pass attempts, whether you adjust for situation and opponent or not.
sack rate for SF vs. ATL? 0 saks in 32 dropbacks = less than one sack per 30 attempts. funny how the stats actually mean something sometimes.
by Florida Danny on Oct 13, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes you did
I tend to throw out that stat from time to time. Every team seems to have their own twist to the pass rush and sometimes an ineffective one will surprising work in the right match up.
In this case I didn’t know much the Falcon’s offensive line personnel. I know the Patriots don’t have a great pass rush and most of the time rush 4 and drop everyone else into coverage. Which along with the bye week perfectly prepared the Falcons to handle our defense.
by bignerd on Oct 13, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted yes...
But Coach had the benefit of framing the game in a different light, with his press conference and handling of the Dre situation.
I would have definitely voted “no”, were it not for…
1. Coming back and understanding the Bly play after initially “not seeing it”
2. This morning on KNBR, he mentioned that the lack of timeouts, specifically with regard to gathering the team early, and the play that resulted would “cause [him] to think a lot longer before doing that in the future” (paraphrase)
All I can ask is improvement and the ability to learn from past mistakes and failures, and that earns my yes vote today.
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
by LA49er on Oct 13, 2009 11:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted yes as well
The Coach has the D playing well.I mean we played well enough to almost defeat the Vikings at Minnesota.The problem is on the offense side of the ball.With Gore out and Crabtree getting ready.We should be better come December.The Falcons I thought didn’t have such a good Defense to keep the 49ers from not getting in the endzone.Our over all problem I believe is Shuan Hill.Hill is OK,but he is not gonna get the ball in the end zone.I think Alex Smith should be given the opportunity to start and see if he can get the ball in the end zone and finish drives.Because Shaun Hill isn’t doing it.They are relying to much on the defense to score their points.The Defense can only do so much.Since the Defense ran in to a solid team in the Falcons with a high potent offense.The 49ers offense should have been able to keep up with the Falcons offense TD per TD and yard for yard.
by Smallville49er on Oct 13, 2009 11:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What worries me
is the complete breakdown in D this last week.
The same D that stuffed the Vikes should have allowed far less than 45 points against this Falcons O.
We always knew we had problems in our O-line, receiving corps, QB, offense in general. The question is, will the real Niners D please stand up?
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
by LA49er on Oct 13, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It didn't help
That two of their TD drives in the first half were very short fields due to turnovers.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
see my comment above...
the niners D improvement this season has had a lot to do with actually having a pass rush…ATL is the #1 pass-blocking OL…so no pass rush = secondary gets exposed + can’t commit as many people to stopping the run…pass rush is the straw that stirs the drink
by Florida Danny on Oct 13, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That
makes a lot of sense.
Where are the answers in our DL, and can we be really be an elite D without an elite D-Line? It just seems like the best secondary, given enough time, will always be picked apart even by mediocre QBs.
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
by LA49er on Oct 13, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think
it was just a bad matchup for them…next week, i’ll be posting something about their matchups for the remaining teams on the schedule. one of the matchups i’ll talk about is the caliber of pass-blocking OLs they’ll be facing for the rest of the season because it seems really important for their overall defensive performance.
by Florida Danny on Oct 13, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Offensive Line Thread Up
Finally got a bit of an OL thread up for specific discussion on that.
http://www.ninersnation.com/2009/10/13/1083518/the-san-francisco-49ers
by Fooch on Oct 13, 2009 11:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted no and here's why
I’m gonna vote differently than most people are. I figure since this question is being asked every week, I’ll give my vote on how I felt he did that particular week. It doesn’t affect my overall view of Singletary (in which I still do greatly approve). However, regressions do need to be acknowledged and it’s hard to me to feel like I’m doing so with a yes vote.
by Ovalshine on Oct 13, 2009 12:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sing said:
…it is going to be a process.
which is why you should continue w/a “Yes” on approval if you feel the direction of the team is satisfactory.
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
by GameSix on Oct 13, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Healthy Scratch???
what does this mean? i have an idea but i just want to confirm.
"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are"
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 13, 2009 12:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He needs to start using the TV timeouts!!!
im glad he acknowledged that it was the team AS A WHOLE that lost the game. it wasnt just the players. it also involeved the play calling and all that stuff. great job of maning up
"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are"
by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 13, 2009 12:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I can say no.
So let me get this straight. Rossum is gone to protect Ziegler, we have no legitimate return man, hell its our 2nd string TE???
Sheets is gone so we don’t even have a RB on the PS anymore, and watch us just pick up another “BIG” RB.
We have more Wr’s than Rb’s on a run heavy team.
So our two fastest guys are gone and are going to be replaced with what exactly?
Might as well get rid of all the speeders we have at every position…
Whats the point right we are just going to let our Wr’s pull up on routes and before they get to the end zone, and over throw them and run up the gut to get 1-3 yards a carry.
Who needs speed when we are just going to hit people in the mouth! jeez
by whitemike1644 on Oct 13, 2009 1:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
to add to this.
http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2009/10/sheets-picked-up-off-49ers-practice-squad.html
“The 49ers have just three wide receivers who have caught passes in the first five games of the season. Yet, the 49ers have seven wideouts on their 53-man roster”
by whitemike1644 on Oct 13, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two fastest?
Sheets and Rossum? I don’t know about Sheets but not Rossum.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think...
… V.Davis is probably by far the fastest player on the team. Dry Bly may be faster than Rossum nowadays.
Speaking of which: why doesn’t Bly return punts anymore? I could have sworn he used to in his younger years.
by sfgfan on Oct 13, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
punt returns
Check out his stat page at espn.com:
He returned no punts his first two seasons. Starting in 2001 he’s returned between 2 and 8 punts each year.
by Fooch on Oct 13, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
at kick return...
Rossum was the fastest.
at the RB Sheets might have been if not for sure 2nd.
sorry didn’t word my self correctly
by whitemike1644 on Oct 13, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Understood
I do think we’ll miss Rossum. He takes one back for a TD every year, didn’t fumble and had a quick first two step sthough his long range speed was gone. I would have kept hi mover Spurlock but, going forward we’ll see. If he’s not picked up we may at some point bring him back.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh almost forgot.
And Roman is going to start! here we come Texans, we will see how good in coverage you really are.
by whitemike1644 on Oct 13, 2009 1:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
Now I’m reading that A. Smith, Gore, and Crabs are staying over the break to get extra time in, first off where is the rest of the team?
2nd Yea Hill should not be there building chemistry with Crab’s naw we don’t need that at all. Let’s just let our backup who won’t throw to him build one with him… hell might as well have Davis throwing to him since he won’t get any snaps.
Hope for the best, plan for the worst.
by whitemike1644 on Oct 13, 2009 2:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Singletary is fine.....
I like Singletary, but he needs to lose the circa 1985 Madonna cross he’s sporting.
Start Alex Smith!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by utah pens fan on Oct 13, 2009 3:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Start Alex Smith!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What so we can lost the rest of the season and get a great draft pick? now there’s an idea!
Judgment day is coming!
by Widowwolf on Oct 13, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember Nolan's big failures ..
…after bye weeks the Niners would play like crap? How the Niners come out of the bye this time will show us a lot.
Singletary:
the preparation as a coaching staff, starting with me, was not greatI agree, but I am still generally impressed with the steady (though fiery) leadership Singletary has exhibited.
chilibean_3 says: Cybermaldonado, "I don’t think you understand anything. Anything at all." Stay classy chilibean my friend.
by cybermaldonado on Oct 13, 2009 5:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It was always hard to tell
The team’s played awful in October and November the last 5 years.
by bignerd on Oct 13, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They did well last year
Went into the bye with that putrid home loss to Seattle and came out in AZ and outplayed the Cardinals, lead for 3.5 quarters and should’ve won. We’re better than last season and they won’t play as awful and unfocused/unprepared as Sunday.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 13, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't know if this was addressed
but we lead the NFL in 3 and outs, how does that make you feel???
that is sad considering there are some win-less teams in the NFL.
by whitemike1644 on Oct 13, 2009 10:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not much of a surprise
I’d expect them to be ranked in the bottom tier.
by bignerd on Oct 14, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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