Panthers Watch 2009: Draft choice odds
by David Fucillo on Oct 16, 2009 12:18 PM PDT
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PrintThe folks over at Football Outsiders put together a whole host of statistics as we've seen over the last few weeks. One thing they do with the statistics is determine the odds of a given team getting into the playoffs. On the flip side of that, they also provide odds for each team getting the #1 pick in the draft and also getting a top 3 pick. Thanks to rdub49erfn for pointing it out. Given our interest in the Carolina Panthers draft choice, it seems like a good idea to post the Panthers odds each week. I just found out about this a couple days ago but going forward we'll post this the day after they're posted at FO.
For this week, FO calculate that the Carolina Panthers have a 4.1% chance of finishing with the #1 draft pick and a 17.7% chance of a top 3 draft pick. They also have a .2% chance of making the playoffs, so we gotta like that.
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I would like to see the odds that Carolina will get a top 10 pick
And what odds do the 49ers have for all of this?
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Odds
I’ll have to talk to Florida Danny about figuring out top 10 odds….they’re not on FO so not sure if it would be something we could put together.
The 49ers have a 0.4% chance of a top 3 pick and 0.0% of the #1 pick. Technically they could get the pick but I think it’s so low that it’s basically 0.
As for the playoffs, the 49ers are listed as having a 28.6% chance of making the playoffs. The Seahawks are actually much higher at 61.2% chance of making the playoffs.
by David Fucillo on Oct 16, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah that's probably it
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
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--Daisy Owl
Carolina will get the 7th or 8th pick
you heard it hear first!
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We'll get the 32nd pick
; )
"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are"
I like the way you think
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
I said 1-5 before the pre season just from the schedule, but I was counting on Washington
Being better!
"Optimist Prime"
"Take my advice, I don't use it anyway" -Woody Paige
Washington lost that one in the last minutes
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
LOL, Heard it here first!
Some people called that shot out a long time ago. I think Cris Carter called it last November.
.2 of 1 percent!!! That's Epic
Remember those days? When we were out of the playoff race come week 6? LOL you should it was only one year ago lol.
I think we will end up with the 8th pick at the least. A lot of variables come into play. Like strength of schedule, injuries and importance of games. I do know that the Panthers still need to play Atlanta twice, New Orleans twice, New England, Miami and New York Jets. That just off the top of my head and equals another 7 losses. So at the very best they are looking at 6-10.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Oct 16, 2009 1:04 PM PDT reply actions
If you look at the end of their season
They are gonna end up losing most of the last 4. They play NE, MIN, NYG, NO. And all NE and NYJ will probably be fighting for the division and NO ain’t gonna let them walk over them even in week 17. MIN will probably not be a push over even at that late time either.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Oct 17, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Found these mock drafts for the 2010 Draft
http://walterfootball.com/draft2010.php
(1-16)
http://walterfootball.com/draft2010_1.php
(17-32)
http://www.mynfldraft.com/NFL-Mock-Draft
(1-32)
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/insider/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=4110478&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fdraft09%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dmcshay_todd%26id%3d4110478
({1-16} McShay’s new name is McSh*t… he thinks the Niners pick will be before the Panters pick)
The general consensus has been St. Louis going #1 drafting a QB…
There were more links but I didn’t feel like listing a ton. These were pretty interesting though for anyone that wants to check them out
Interesting
The first one has
SF at # 10 with Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa with Carolina’s pick (one pick before Mays is picked)
SF at # 18 with Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas
The second one:
SF at # 9 with Trent Williams, OT, Oaklahoma with Carolina’s pick (one pick before Mays is picked)
SF at # 18 with Ras-I Dowling, CB Virginia
ESPN’s mock has:
SF at # 8 taking Taylor Mays, S, USC with their own pick
SF at # 10 taking Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas with Carolina’s pick.
Wow.. ESPN doesn’t think the 49ers will have as good a season as Carolina or Washington. but SF is after GreenBay. This mock was done in April 2009.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Haha
Thats why I changed McShay’s anme above…
I thought that was pretty funny also. One game against the Falcons and all of the sudden we’re picking 8? Better than only the Rams, Raiders, Cheifs, Cleveland, Buffalo, Tampa, and Detroit? Very laughable
I do like who they have the 49ers picking with the first picks in the first two mocks
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Looking at the notes, I didn’t know that Seattle has 2 first round picks as well.
That’s a lot of potential new top talent in the division, doubly so with the expected surge of underclassmen in next year’s draft making the first couple rounds to have a lot of good players.
Seattle has Denver's 1st
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
The 49ers were lucky to have traded with Carolina and not Denver.. (At this point)
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Exactly why I wouldn't wanna trade a pick this year
"Optimist Prime"
"Take my advice, I don't use it anyway" -Woody Paige
I see better Mocks on Ninersnation.com
http://walterfootball.com/draft2010.php
Seahawks picking 23rd and the Niners passing on Mays won’t happen. The Bills will select a QB that’s a huge issue.
http://www.mynfldraft.com/NFL-Mock-Draft
Raiders will be top 3, but this outcome is more believable
"Optimist Prime"
"Take my advice, I don't use it anyway" -Woody Paige
RE: Niners passing on Mays won’t happen
How much you want to bet?
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
If Berry or Mays
drop past the Panthers (our 1st 1st rounder), then it wouldn’t astonish me if they took either. Sort of like the Crabtree thing..he wasn;t even on the NIners board because he wasn’t supposed to be there but we sure didn;t hesitate on taking him there. Drafts always have a funny way of doing what you least expect outside of the top 5 picks. So fo someone to say “How much you want to bet?” is being a tad nieve. I personally think that if we have a choice between Clausen and Berry that we’d go with the QB but just because its my opinion, doesn;t equal I would be right
I'll get on board with Berry
But the Niners won’t be taking Mays. The Niners also won’t take a QB in the first round. To think so is nieve.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
so if they pick one, then…???
No one can be that confident. Drafts are unpredicatble. If you were saying that about the RB position, I’d be on board but to say that about a crucial need is not nieve. Nothing is certain (at least outside the top 5), thats the point
Try to wrap your head around this
Mays is not in the same class as Berry. Berry is better, way better. Mays has Roy “One Biscuit Short of a Picnic” Williams written all over him. Berry has the skills that translate to a NFL FS. Mays does not. SS, no matter how big the need (which it isn’t even a position of need for the Niners), don’t get drafted top 10. Even the great Troy Polamalu “slid” to pick 16.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats your opinion
I actually think Mays is going to have more of an impact in the NFL. He’s going to bring back the old school knocks element of the game. Yeah he may get a penalty here or there but the penalties will be worth it when receivers fear going across the middle on him. He will be respected.
Did you see the hit on Ochocinco get drilled by Ray Lewis this past weekend? You think Ochocinco won’t fear going across the middle against Baltimore?
While Berry takes away certain elements so too does Mays… they just do it in different ways.
You have your opinion on Mays an I have mine. I am sure we’re not the only two people that disagree with the same debate. Only time will reveal what the truth is
Laughable
He’s going to bring back the old school knocks element of the game. Yeah he may get a penalty here or there but the penalties will be worth it when receivers fear going across the middle on him. He will be respected.
Have you been watching the pussification of the NFL over the last 5+ years? The “old school knocks element” doesn’t play in today’s NFL and to suggest that a couple of 15 yard penalties are worth the “intimidation” factor is ludicrous. Thing is, WR won’t have to go across the middle on him they’ll have an easy enough time exposing him in coverage. I seriously doubt Ochocinco is now suddenly afraid to go across the middle against Baltimore, or any other team.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Opinionated?
Nothing you say is with regard to facts. Its all opinion.
Laughable? Thats cool man. Whatever. My opinion isn’t any more laghable than what you’re opinon is.
People AREN’T “intimidated” by Ray Lewis? Seriously?
RE: People AREN’T "intimidated" by Ray Lewis? Seriously?
People may be. I have my doubts about Pro Bowl WR being intimidated. Seriously.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Paid vs. Fear? two seperate issues. Eddie George “FEARED” Ray Lew… he openly admited this. Thats a RB (a very big RB at that). He gets paid to go through the hole and go heads up with LB’s. What makes you think a WR (besides Hines Ward) has more guts?
Feared him how?
Feared him in a “oh [site decorum] this guy might shank me in the bottom of the pile” kind of way? Feared him in a “oh [site decorum] he’s going to injure me” kind of way? Feared him in a “oh he might tackle me” kind of way?
What makes you think a WR (besides Hines Ward) has more guts?
Basically because a Pro Bowl WR wouldn’t be a Pro Bowl WR if they didn’t have the guts. The fact that Ochocinco, from your example, is still doing it after 9 years. Do you think that was the first time Ray Lewis, or anybody else, hit him hard? Child please!
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you see my sig
lolololololololololololloloololo…..and still LMAO
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
Honestly I didn't
I just remembered him saying something like that so I googled it for confimation.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
you’re right Ray Lewis is a softy.
Lott
Tatum
Browner
Atwater
Nightrain Lane
Lawrence Taylor
Singletary
None of those guys were ever feared… I suppose. You got to be wearing clown shoes for a living if you think certain players are not feared. Btw, Child please is nice way of saying F YOU! So guess what, F U 2!
Sigh….. oh well
Who said Ray Lewis was a softy?
The child please has more to do with your childish logic and ideas than it does me telling you to “F” off. I didn’t say that some NFL players don’t get “intimidated”, the mediocre ones probably do (to an extent) or that even Pro Bowlers aren’t aware of where these guys are at on the field. All I’m saying is that whether or not WR gets scared going across the middle if what separates the boys for the men, the Pro Bowlers from the practice squaders. I don’t think for a second that Boldin (who had his face broken), Fitzgerald, Wayne, Ochocinco, Johnson, etc. (this list could go on and on) are so scared of getting hit that they won’t go across the middle or short arm passes because if they did they wouldn’t be who they are.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
The guys mentioned (pro bowl receivers), still respect certain players. And game plans are adjusted accordingly to these players.
To say that some players are not feared or respected, honored with their ability is not living in reality.
Childish logic? I would be curious to see if you could break that down. I am sure that you could probably manage to find a way to distort what I said in your favor. Childish logic relating to Mays being respected and honored in the NFL is not painted in any of my posts. Your OPINION is just that…an opinion. By saying someone has “childish logic” for having an opinion based on what I have seen is a bit childish in and of itself
Your OPINION is just that…an opinion.
That’s just, like, your opinion, man.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 16, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I have more guts
Man Ray ewis has hit people over the middle for years and Chad knew that and went over the middle, and he didn’t curl up like a braud.
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
Ochocinco is a veteran
He’s a pro bowler because he takes that hit and has before!
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
And Ray gets tagged with a $25K bill from the NFL
I think that might be another reason to not worry about it as much.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Oct 17, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually with Gore's ankle problems last year and this a RB may not pass by the 49ers
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Yeah but I think it's very
safe to say no 1st round RB. But you are proving my point that it’s unpredictable as to who’s going to go where.
I agree....
… that it’s pretty safe to say that the 49ers won’t take a first round RB. Unless that RB is of the Adrian Peterson ilk, I think the 49ers prefer value out of the the RB spot than ZOMGSUPAHSTAH!
Looking at the board I can see the possibilities of NT, SS, FS, OT, OLB/Pass rusher and even RB going to the Niners in the first round
So,, they will probably pick a punter ;-)
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Don't you think...
Singletary would be more interested in the physical beast/hard hitting/“smash mouth” SS over the ball hawk FS. Taylor Mays just seems more like the new Niners style.
What does this even mean?
The Niners prefer less talented players because they like to run into stuff?
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 17, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
However much you want to put up.
If Berry is gone and Mays is there he will be picked. If they both are there one of those two will be the pick!
"Optimist Prime"
"Take my advice, I don't use it anyway" -Woody Paige
Mays Bet
If Mays in on the board when the Niners pick and they don’t take him then you can never post on NN again.
If the Niners select Mays with their first pick I’ll never post on NN again.
Simple enough?
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome
I’m totally looking forward to abolishing someone from the blogosphere. Just another notch for my jerkstore bought belt.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
THEY'RE ALL OUT OF *YOU*
Well done sir.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
truthfully id be more concerned about losing money
"Optimist Prime"
"Take my advice, I don't use it anyway" -Woody Paige
This is more easily enforced than having to collect money that you likely wouldn't pay
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Now you're going to insults? what makes you think I wouldn't pay?
This is more easily enforced than having to collect money that you likely wouldn’t pay
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
Nothing personal
Just the fact that I don’t know you from Adam and typically people don’t like to pay when they lose. This is why “bookies” have “enforcers”. I’m a gambler, I pay my loses but if I’m not 100% certain that I’m going to get paid when I win then it makes no sense for me to wager $1,000 (or whatever amount) if I feel like I have a 0% of collecting.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It might be different if I knew someone who would break legs on the cheap
But sadly, I don’t. It seems the cost to collect would far outweigh the cost of a loss.
Although, in the spirit of the lighthearted bet I would be open to changing the wager from not being able to post again, ever, to a permanent sig line bet. Where the loser has to wear a sig line of the winners choosing.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Forever, f-o-r-e-v-e-r
I’m open to discussing the wager.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 17, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean after watching the USC/ND game
I’m convince Mays may be the most overrated playing in college football. He’s simply a LB lined up at FS, basically zero safety skills.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 17, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Bet
it’s not even really a bet. Either on of you could change your user name. Not to mention it’s not until March. I am sure by then this day and bet will have been forgoten
Oh yee of little faith.
Why isn’t it a bet? I don’t know about you or methodrampage but I am a man, point blank and period, blogging is not a can’t miss intety in my life. If Mays is passed on and Berry is already gone, yeah Mays will be picked!
If Berry is gone and Mays is there he will be picked. If they both are there one of those two will be the pick!
"Optimist Prime"
"Take my advice, I don't use it anyway" -Woody Paige
blogging is not a can’t miss intety in my life
True, you’ve got a point. It’s your bet. But the comment I blocked makes it pretty much a win-win for you. To me bets involve risk
Yeah they do
I’ll tell you what If we did take Mays and he didn’t stop posting I wouldn’t care, I would fly to SF about some money though….lol
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
We could ask Fooch to enforce
I sure he could “boot” the loser.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll remember
“Mays Bet” will be easy enough to search for. It’s more to do with proving a point, or superiority, than it does with opressing the ability of whoever rlott#42 is to post on NN ever again.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
That you don't know jack
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Make it a moeny bet then!!!
Please do that, let’s bet some money!
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
No response......All bark and no bite
Maybe it’s you that wouldn’t pay up!
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
Eh.
I think the not posting thing is a little more fun, and it definitely is easier to enforce. Being the internets and all that, money is a tricky proposition.
“I win, I expect that money to be in my PayPal account ASAP. Kthxbye.”
I replied
Look up.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I did know we didn't need to draft Crabtree
That you don’t know jack
So that still won’t be true, win or lose!
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
Funny, I said they'd draft Crabtree in October of 2008
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
You won't need to look it up.....your finger will be over the button as we pick!
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
I Do Love
the Selvie pick in the 2nd round. That would be an absolute steal, the dude is a pass rushing beast.
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Oct 16, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
What did you mean
you see better Mocks on NN?
I think those are the same mocks I posted above. I am confused.
I think Fooch should put together a mock and attatch some sort of poll
I'm saying guys from the site predicting picks.
Our mocks were better than kipers
"Optimist Prime"
"Take my advice, I don't use it anyway" -Woody Paige
Oh
gotcha…
Thats why I think it would be interesting to see Fooch and howtheyscored, Ninjajames, etc… put together their ‘10 Mocks. Think there’d be some good conversation. It’s alot of work for a FanPost or I would do it. Would be interesting to get their take on it though
We have...
… a mock round “competition” around here every year, I think. I don’t think anyone ever goes back to tabulate the results, but you at least get to see the opinion of where others’ opinions are.
I won in '08!
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
So I was wrong!
And method actually thanked someone (HTS) for the score keeping?!
In all seriousness, it’s good to see your no-nonsense comments back around here lately.
To be fair (to me)
I probably wouldn’t have thanked him had I not won.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 16, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought that...
… as soon as I finished posting!
mocks
Hmmm…I really haven’t watched a lot of college football this season. I’d be happy to chat with the other writers and see who watches a good deal of college football. Mine would be pretty much useless (or even more useless than normal).
by David Fucillo on Oct 16, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Some More Mock Drafts
NFL Draft Dog: 16. DE- Carlos Dunlap, Florida
20. LB- Eric Norwood, South Carolina
NFL Draft Blitz: 10. CB- Joe Haden, Florida
18. QB- Tim Tebow, Florida (yuck!!!!!!)
Draft ACE: 11. OT- Bryan Bulaga, Iowa
13. DT- Arthur Jones, Syracuse
New NFL Draft 11. S- Taylor Mays, USC
22. DE- Brandon Graham, Michigan
Draft Countdown 8. OT- Trent Williams, Oklahoma
23. CB- Patrick Robinson, Florida State
Draft Tech 13. OT- Trent Williams, Oklahoma
17. DT- Terrence Cody, Alabama
Now these are the most up to date mock drafts on the internet. They are also from sites that are soley dedicated to mock drafts and nothing else.
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Oct 16, 2009 2:04 PM PDT reply actions
DE's son't be a focal point IMO, I wouldnt be surprised about RT's
But Mays and Berry won’t be passed on!
"Optimist Prime"
"Take my advice, I don't use it anyway" -Woody Paige
I'd be totally happy...
…. with “Draft Countdown” or “Draft Tech”’s results.
Same here, good picks especially at those in the middle of the 1st.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
I just hope that...
… if they take a corner in the first, that he’s not one of those CB/FS types. I’m so sick of the 49ers taking these hybrid players. If you’re going to take a guard that will start, take a guard. If you’re going to take a starting corner, take a corner.
Agreed
Although we are yet to see how the Reggie Smith thing will play out. He has shown signs and promise of becoming a very good safety.
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Oct 16, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes Reggie Smith is > Berry or Mays :-)
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
oooh
I really like that Draft Tech one. Well, except for the whole picking 17 part.
Sharlon Schoop - de favoriete Nederlandse honkbalspeler van McCovey Chronicles.
You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends
--Daisy Owl
Yeah
The picking 17 part kinda ruined that mock for me. I was also happy with the Carlos Dunlap, Eric Norwood one. But i really cannot see the Niners spending both 1st round picks on defense when our obvious weakness is on the other side of the ball.
But who says we cannot address the offensive needs in free agency?
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Oct 16, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
What am I missing here ?
Oh Yea, Offensive Linemen. As strong as the Defense been, they’re still considering a Defensive Player ? Everyone been making a big stink about the " O " Line and yet they continue to up-talk Defense ? Truly Unbelieveable !!!!!!!
Like WR in past years, they fail in th FA Market with Offensive Linemen. Do it the other way, sign Defensive Backs or DL players and Draft OL for the future. Do it Differently next year. I tired of broken down old Linemen who cann’t make into the regular Season !!! Geezs, How long is it going to take to understand what we really NEED? Linemen who can Block and Protect !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Linemen we have been talking about aren't old
Marcus McNeill LT SD is 25
Logan Mankins OG NE is 27
Daryn Colledge OG NE is 27
BTW a good place to check as far as Free Agents is WalterFootaball (already mentioned as far as draft stuff a few times)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Oct 17, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
The Problem With The FO
Is that they have gone after broken down and injury riddled offensive linemen (Marvel Smith and Jonas Jennings) to name a few. Marcus McNeil, Michael Roos and Darryn Colledge are all proven, young, talented and healthy offensive linemen. I for one would rather sign Marcus McNeil to a franchise contract then spend a top ten pick on either Williams or Okung. We can use that pick on Berry or Mays. Also there have only been 3 guards go in the 1st round of the draft over the last 5 seasons. So there is no way we spend a 1st round pick on a guard. Especially when the highest rated guard in the 2010 draft is projected late 2nd or early 3rd round
"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"
by nocal81(Vincent) on Oct 16, 2009 7:44 PM PDT reply actions
I like this
Sign a good OT, draft another guard . . . big hint a guard most likely to step in and contribute right away! Use the 1st round picks to get BPA even if they are on defense.
The last Mock Draft I saw was the 49ers getting the #6 pick from Carolina, where they had them taking Sam Bradford. They also had the Raiders picking Tim Tebow 10th.
It is WAY too hard to speculate what the Niners will pick. These same mock drafts had the 49ers picking a QB this past draft too.
I wouldn’t be too pissed if they drafted 2 O-linemen with their two 1st rounders.
Furthermore, I don’t even know if I want a top 1-3 pick, as they seem to cost too much. Somewhere between 10-20 seems to be ideal…. assuming it’s a deep draft.
FO Odds always entertain me
18% chance of a top 3 pick for the Panthers? Absolutely no way. More like a 5% chance.
Rams, Raiders, Chiefs, Lions, Browns, Bills
That’s a hard nut to crack, throw in the Redskins and Titans. I’d say there’s an 80% chance it’s top 10, but highly unlikely that it’s better than 7th.
I’m liking one of the lineman ( assuming Berry/Okung are gone ). Bulaga, Campbell or Davis.
by whistlingmountain on Oct 17, 2009 7:53 PM PDT reply actions
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