Los Angeles stadium update and tangential link to the 49ers
by David Fucillo on Oct 19, 2009 11:18 AM PDT
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PrintEver since the 49ers came out with their stadium info for Santa Clara, things have been rather quiet. There is an election to be held in the spring to get voter approval and hopefully get things going for a new 49ers stadium. In the meantime, the folks in SoCal have seen some interesting developments in the never-ending process to bring football back to Los Angeles.
The folks at Pro Football Talk provided some interesting links indicating a stadium might be closer to getting built in Industry down near LA (really not sure where that is exactly). The way I'm reading it, individuals filed a lawsuit claiming the stadium project in Industry would have violated state environmental laws. This past week, the California Senate approved, and Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger will sign, a measure that would exempt the project from state environmental laws.
Schwarzenegger has indicated he feels this is a great opportunity to create new jobs and economic activity. In fact, LA Stadium officials have stated the project would create more than 6,700 new jobs, it would create an additional $21 million in tax revenue, and it would generate $762 million in economic activity. For the purposes of this post I won't get into the fact that I'd likely call BS on those figures. I haven't looked into in detail so I can't say for sure, but usually those figures end up incredibly inflated. Believe what they say if you want.
So how does this affect the 49ers? Well the second article linked above included this paragraph at the end:
Schwarzenegger hopes developer Majestic Realty Co., the driving company behind the project, doesn't poach any California teams to play in the proposed venue. They have indicated their plan to approach seven teams in hopes of luring one to LA. The list includes the three California teams: San Diego Chargers, Oakland Raiders and the San Francisco 49ers.
The 49ers are in the midst of their own potential stadium deal so it's certainly way too early to infer anything too substantial. The 49ers probably don't end up back in play until after next year's elections. I believe the 49ers are pushing to get on a March ballot, but nothing is set in stone yet.
Wouldn't it be ironic if Governor Schwarzenegger's goal of getting a new stadium indirectly led to the poaching of another California team? The Chargers are often discussed as a potential move, and the Raiders...well I don't think I can make any more jokes about that that haven't already been made. And even if it's not a California team that moves to LA, there are several other teams that often seem to be itching for a move. Florio pointed to a few of them including the Bills, the Jaguars, the Rams and the Vikings. If it ends up being the Raiders or Rams, I'd be highly amused.
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LA Jaguars
The Jaguars have to be the favorites to move. Their attendance absolutely blows (worst in the league). I’d say the Bills would be near the top but their excursion into Canada might save them for a bit. I believe the Chargers are looking for a new stadium but I’m not sure where they stand with San Deigo or the immediately surrounding areas but a Chargers move to LA would probably affect their fan base the least (The party busses would just have to reverse directions).
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
exempt from state environmental laws?
that sounds like a dangerous can of worms to open
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
exemption
Yea, that has some folks worried.
The action was taken after Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento) was unsuccessful in negotiating an agreement that would have a citizens group drop its lawsuit seeking to block the 75,000-seat stadium. The suit alleged that the project violated state environmental laws.
The Senate decision to exempt the stadium from the laws was blasted by Howard Wang, a vice president of the group Citizens for Community Preservation, which filed a lawsuit demanding that the developer redo an environmental impact report.
“It’s a sad day for California,” said Wang, a college administrator. “It opens up the door for other developers who are well-off enough to hire lobbyists to go to Sacramento and get exemptions from the environmental laws.”
The bill, which passed on a bare majority vote of 21 to 14, was drafted to allow developer Ed Roski’s Majestic Realty to build the stadium with private funds near the intersection of the 57 and 60 freeways to attract an NFL team.
by David Fucillo on Oct 19, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Writing IOU's sounds like a dangerous can of worms to open too!
Without getting too political, California is hurting in a bad way right now and could really use this.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 19, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
use this
Depends on how much public money is gonna go into this stadium. If they keep it entirely, or mostly private, then it’s a benefit. If the state and/or city is throwing a ton of money into this, it only adds to the IOUs.
by David Fucillo on Oct 19, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
It's private
There is this one super rich real-estate dude that is funding it all.
They already have the money.
The only issue (as I mentioned below) is that the people nearby don’t want a football stadium in their otherwise quiet city.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Oct 19, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Roski
I believe Roski is a part owner of LA Lakers and LA Kings and I think he owns part of the Staples Center too.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Oct 19, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Los Angeles 49ers
I Like the sound of that… it’ll save me money on driving up north to the games, and i wont have to sell my season tickets!!! i love it… “start digging men!!!”
"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are"
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somehow i think that as bad as we need a new stadium, i cant ever see the franchise moving to LA. That would leave northern cali without a football team (insert raidas joke here)
I think that somehow, somewhere, the niners will get a new stadium approved in the next few years
by Camraman926 on Oct 19, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Then what sbout us that live in north of the bay
I would have to travel too far. My heart would be broken and would lose the will to watch football. I want to cry just entertaining the idea that they would move
+1
There’s an “SF” on the helmet for a reason – the team name is the Forty Niners, but the crimson oval SF logo IS the 49ers, and NOT LA. Period. Get the Rams instead.
I don't think...
… I could root for a team with an LA logo on their helmet/hats.
well as long as it saves you money
im all for it
"Pat is still just scratching the surface." - Coach Singletary on LB Patrick Willis
No way the 49ers move
No. Cal hates So. Cal and there is no way they let a franchise like the 49ers leave.
Fooch:
“Industry down near LA (really not sure where that is exactly)”
City of Industry is near the suburban areas of LA.
It is around 35 miles away from downtown LA and is surrounded by like 4 major freeways.
Right now, the only thing in City of Industry are abandoned factories, a few corporate offices and just barren land.
They could probably build the stadium in an old parking lot closer to some flat hills.
As for the people suing: It’s just the people in the surrounding areas that don’t want any commotion.
Since there are a few colleges nearby and the population there consists mostly of old people, they don’t want the LA people to invade their space.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
Ah! As a former Seattle Sonics fan, this is pretty scary stuff
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by theghostofjasonellison on Oct 19, 2009 12:17 PM PDT reply actions
Jags make sense
They’re basically a franchise searching for a real city. The Jacksonville market should have never received a team and had the Raiders and Rams moved earlier, likely would not have. If the Raiders or Rams move back that’s okay too since they were already there. I’d really like the Raiders to go back (allow us to once again have network double headers) or the Rams (a division rival so close, Niner fans can once again take over half the stadium).
Bills and Vikings (along with others) should stay in their longtime communities.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I'd go to all 49ers rams games if the Rams moved back to LA
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Oct 19, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Minnesota could also leave for LA. With the Twins and the Golden Gophers moving into new stadiums that leaves the Vikings in the Metrodome. And from I have heard they want a new stadium also, but the state might not be ready to build them a stadium because of the previous two they just built.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
My money is on the Jags and Rams
Jags should already be moving to LA. I have feeling the Rams are going to beat them to the punch. Maybe the Jags eventually move to St. Louis. It would make division alignment sense to have the Rams in LA and Jags in St. Louis.
I couldn't bear it if the Niners left SF ...
… I have never been fortunate enough to see them in the flesh, at Candlestick Park, but I will, and until they do, they cannot move to LA. Please …
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It's hard to believe the two cities are in the same state.
The 49ers will never move to LA unless an earthquake does indeed sink the Northern coast into the ocean. It would take 10 years of lawsuits to move the 49ers down there, no owner would go through that especially the weak spined Yorks.
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