San Francisco 49ers vs. Houston Texans: A Prospector's Guide
by Fooch on Oct 21, 2009 8:00 AM PDT
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Hallelujah, we've made it through the bye week and we can finally bring you another edition of the "Prospector's Guide." The 49ers face one heck of a challenge coming out of the bye, heading down deep int he heart of Texas to take on the Houston Texans. It's been a rather eventful bye week for the 49ers as they've made multiple lineup changes, potentially culminating in the starting debut of Michael Crabtree. Even if Crabtree doesn't start the game, he'll still get to make his playing debut in his home state. The Texans on the other hand remain a bit of an enigma this season. They're coming off a bit win over the surprising Bengals, but up to this point, the Texans have alternated wins and losses.
The 49ers travel to Houston to face the Texans in what will be the second meeting between the two teams, dating back to 2005. In the only contest played in the series, the 49ers defetated the Texans 20-17 in overtime at Candlestick Park in the 2005 season finale. Prior to 2005, the last time the 49ers had played a regular season game in Houston was in 1996 against the Houston Oilers.
While Houston might not be a familiar place to many current 49ers, Mike Singletary knows the city very well. The 49ers head coach was born there and has a large contingent of family and friends in the area. The 49ers will look to make Singletary’s homecoming a special one after coming off a bye week. San Francisco went 3-0 in the division to start the season and maintains a 3-2 overall record. In each of the past two years, the 49ers have gone 2-2 against AFC opponents. San Francisco enters this week’s game with a current streak of seven consecutive games with at least one interception and has won 8 of its past 12 games, dating back to 2008.
49ers-Texans Connections
Coaching Connections
• 49ers offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye coached alongside Texans assistant head coach/offense Alex Gibbs with the Kansas City Chiefs for two seasons (1993-94).
• 49ers QB coach Mike Johnson coached Texans QB Matt Schaub for two seasons (2004-05) with the Atlanta Falcons.
• Texans head coach Gary Kubiak started his coaching in career in the NFL as a QB coach with the 49ers in 1994.
• Texans WR coach Larry Kirksey served in the same capacity with the 49ers from 1994 – 99.
• Texans TE coach Brian Pariani was a 49ers scouting assistant in 1990 and then a offensive coaches assistant from 1991-94.
• Texans senior defensive assistant Ray Rhodes was an assistant secondary coach with the 49ers from 1981-82 before being promoted DBs coach from 1983 - 91. Rhodes also served as defensive coordinator for the 49ers 1994 World Championship team.
• Texans Assistant OL Coach Frank Pollack was a 6th-round pick by the 49ers in 1990 and played for SF from 1990-91, 1994-98
Players
FORMER TEXANS - 49ers FB Moran Norris played with the Texans from 2002-05.
FORMER 49ERS - Texans Director of Pro Personnel Brian Gardner spent 10 seasons as a scout with the 49ers from 1995-05.
HOUSTON TIES – 49ers head coach Mike Singletary, S Michael Lewis and FB Moran Norris are originally from Houston, TX.
RE "U" NITED – 49ers RB Frank Gore ran behind lanes cleared by Texans T Rashad Butler, C Chris Myers, and T Eric Winston when they were all teammates at The University of Miami (Fla.) from 2002-04.
Series Highlights
The 49ers and Texans have only played once. The 49ers lead the series 1-0, with a recap below.
SAN FRANCISCO 20, ST. LOUIS 17 (OT)
At San Francisco, CA, January 1, 2006
The San Francisco 49ers rallied from a 10-0 1st quarter deficit for a 20-17 overtime victory over the Houston Texans to close out the 2005 campaign with two consecutive wins for a 4-12 record. The 49ers dominated the line of scrimmage, gaining 182 rushing yds. and controlling the clock for 44:03. The 49ers used a combination of RB Frank Gore (108 yds.) and RB Maurice Hicks (64 yds.) to take control on the ground.
S Mike Adams was the star of the game on defense after finishing with 2 INTs, one that was returned for a TD and the other that led to the game-winning FG in overtime. Adams, who made his first NFL start at cornerback, intercepted QB Tony Banks at the end of the 3rd quarter and returned it 40 yds. for a TD to tie the game at 17-17. Then in overtime, Banks went deep, but Adams intercepted the pass and lateraled to S Ben Emanuel, who ran 35 yds. to the Houston 21-yd. line. After two short runs, K Joe Nedney nailed a 33-yard FG to give the 49ers a 20-17 victory.
QB Alex Smith helped lead the 49ers to a TD at the end of the 1st half by converting a key 3rd-and-13 situation with a 14-yd. strike to WR Brandon Lloyd, and then three plays later ,threw his first NFL TD pass when he rolled to his right and found Lloyd in the back of the end zone for a 14-yard score. The 49ers took the 2nd half kick and went on a 14-play, 56-yd. drive that ended with a 42-yard FG by Nedney to tie the game at 10-10. Houston responded when Banks fired a 31-yd. pass to WR Corey Bradford to get into San Francisco territory followed by a 25-yd. TD pass to Bradford to retake the lead at 17-10. Houston took advantage of good field position in the 1st quarter to take the 10-0 lead. P Andy Lee struggled in the 30-mile per hour winds, shanking a punt that allowed Houston to start a drive at the San Francisco 21-yd. line to set up a FG. The 49ers next drive ended when Lee’s punt from his own 25-yd. line was blocked, allowing Houston to begin a drive at the 49ers 17-yd. line. Houston responded with a 3-yard TD run by RB Vernand Morency.
2009 Statistics
| 49ERS (rank) | TEXANS (rank) | |
| 3-2 (t-1st NFCW) | Record | 3-3 (t-2nd AFCS) |
| 22.4 (t-15th) | Points per game | 23.8 (t-12th) |
| 267.0 (29th) | Total Offense | 369.5 (8th) |
| 106.2 (16th) | Rushing Offense | 77.3 (30th) |
| 160.8 (28th) | Passing Offense | 292.2 (3rd) |
| 29:32 (18th) | Possession Avg | 31:23 (8th) |
| 19.6 (t-12th) | Points allowed/gm | 22.8 (22nd) |
| 322.6 (15th) | Total Defense | 351.8 (20th) |
| 88.6 (7th) | Rushing Defense | 125.0 (24th) |
| 234.0 (20th) | Passing Defense | 226.8 (19th) |
| 11 (t-21st) | Sacks | 7 (t-29th) |
| 47.5 (5th) | Punting Avg (Gross) | 41.5 (28th) |
| +4 (t-8th) | Turnover Differential | +2 (t-11th) |
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Pressure pressure and more pressure
We have to be more creative on defense. We can’t just either rush 4 or “bring the house”. Dare I suggest that Manny should actually get a sack in this game?
This will be a true test for our secondary, Goldson in particular. It would be huge to get an interception early.
This game is very similar to the Cardinals game. I see the score, if we win, to be about the same. 20 something to 17?
On offense
1) Some different looks; maybe two back sets, 3 wideouts, a shotgun formation (watching Hill drop back is like watching Ronald McDonald – referring to the feet)
2) Can we come up with a few more options against the blitz, something that doesn’t involve a slant every time.
3) Please sit Bruce. If Bruce doesn’t have a good game this time around he really should loose his spot as well. If Morgan got replaced for not producing, than Bruce’s veteran status should not prevent the same fate.
by goatfather on Oct 21, 2009 8:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
One thing that is a bit deceptive is the stats for the Texans defense.
Over the first 3 games the run D was horrible. The issue was that they were still swapping personnel around and people were blowing assignments due to some scheme changes and having new guys.
They finally got those issues resolved with the Raiders game and the results are VASTLY different over the last 3 games.
For instance.
First 3 games rushing yards allowed: 181.3 per game
Last 3 games rushing yards allowed: 43.6 per game
So you can see the difference now that they have their personnel in the right positions and understanding their roles.
Passing defense has remained about the same:
First 3 games: 234 Yds per game
Last 3 games: 229 Yds per game.
So if you look at their overall rank is not impressive. What you have to look at iss how the defense has changed and realize that the defense from the first 3 games was very different from the last 3 games.
Additionally, the defense has not given up ANY points in the second half of games over the last 3 games as well, so they are making very good halftime adjustments.
Something to consider may help you understand more specifically what you are up against.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 8:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
good post
makes it seem like a tougher challenge
by goatfather on Oct 21, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This should be a great game.
I will tell you that the comments I have heard the most from opposing fans AFTER the last three games are:
1. WTF? I thought their defense was supposed to be bad.
and
2. Damn you guys have some hard hitters on defense.
Can the Niners win? Absolutely.
The Niners have talent and I believe Gore is back yes? Crabtree is a weapon anyway you slice it. Despite a lack of camp, the guy is a natural athlete and is a threat anytime he is one the field. As a Texan, we watched him here for years playing college ball so we know exactly how dangerous he is.
I do think though that you will be surprised at how much better the Texans are now than the perception of them which grew up around the first three games.
Can’t wait till Sunday. I hope the Niners lose of course, but having grown up watching Steve Young and Joe Montana, I hope you win the rest of your games. It seems so wierd to me for the 49ers NOT to be a playoff team every year.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
About your line
Do you feel the Texans are most vulnerable to the power rush or the finesse rush?
by goatfather on Oct 21, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finesse for sure.
The Texans are playing very good up the middle right now.
If you have a rusher, like Maurice Jones Drew for instance, who can cut back and break it outside, you will have more success aginst the defense.
Brian Cushing is turning out to be a beast in our Linebacking corp. In the Jacksonville game I watched him run THROUGH the lead blocker on his way to wrapping up Jones-Drew.
So in short, Finess is the way to go, Brian Cushing and the addition of Bernard Pollard make power running leass viable against the Texans.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In pass blocking we have a rookie and a backup starting, so there are weaknesses.
Both have actually played well though, so the weaknesses are not glaring in pass protection, but they are in the rushing game.
Between the two, power rushing would seem to have more success. Our center Chris Meyers has had problems with big NTs overpowering him.
Power rush up the middle is your best shot at forcing Schaub to throw quickly or break the pocket and throw on the run.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that sounds good for us
All three of our guys up front play with predominantly a bull rush technique.
by goatfather on Oct 21, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya that is definitely the approach most likely to work.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I for one am very thankful for you coming on and providing some great insight. Thank you TexansForever
Judgment day is coming!
by Widowwolf on Oct 22, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last 3 games
When you look at the states for Houston’s last three games against the rush it does make them look better than their 1st three games. But as soon as you look at the opponents they had for those three weeks, it paints a different picture in my mind. Here are there last three opponents.
Wk4 vs. Oak —> rushing offense ranked 28th yds per game
Wk5 vs. Ari —> rushing offense ranked 31st yds per game
Wk vs. Cin —> rushing offense ranked 14th yds per game
So really the only game the defense has anything to boast about is stopping the 14th best rushing offense, and Cincy made 10 less attempts then their average for year during that game.
11-5... My 49ers pre-season prediction!
by Ten-Man on Oct 21, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent analysis
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 21, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two considerations there...
1. You have to look at what they ranked when the Texans played them in those games.
2. Cedric Benson WAS the league’s leading rusher until he playued the Texans. He has dropped to third as a result.
Oakland and Arizona have bad running games, no doubt. But they both had their worst performance by far against the Texans.
Cincy on the other hand has had a good rushing attack.
Cincy rushing totals by game:
1. 84 yds
2. 148 yds
3. 99 yards
4. 115 yards
5. 138 yards
6. 46 yards
So you can see that the 43 yards per game has been a cosistent stat over the last 3 games regardless of league leading rusher or bad running team.
Anyway, I’m just saying that I believe you will be surprised at how good the run defense is now that they have worked out the issues they were facing.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard for us to judge
We were as awful as we’ve been in years @ AZ, only to find they now have one of (if not the #1 ranked) run defense in the league. After the huge day vs Seattle, we’ve struggled since but without Gore it’s hard to decipher what that is more about: No Gore? Rookie RB who has missed bit cutback opportunities? Bad line play? Opponents not respecting our passing game? Opponents just playing well? Likely a combination of them all. I’m not sure this game will teach us much about Houston’s run D unless Hill and the WRs have a solid game early. Then we’ll find out in the 2nd half of the game.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 21, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that
is hilarious, and sadly true. But hey you left out the WR motion. Wait… if Morgan isn’t that guy then who is going to tell the defense what play we are going to run?
by goatfather on Oct 21, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG thats awesome!
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drummer posted this after Week 1
I just re-posted because I thought the Texan fan needed to understand the 49ers running game before he got too carried away in analysis.
by bignerd on Oct 21, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
gif courtesy of...
NinerCapHell.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Oct 21, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm... yea but
Opponents during first 3 weeks: Jets (2), Titans (6), Jags (11)
Opponents during last 3 weeks: Raiders (28), Cardinals (31), Bengals (14)
Rushing rank in ()
The 49ers are ranked 16th, but that’s with Gore missing the last 3 games. I mean you can’t just look at performance and not account for opponent.
by Sebaz49 on Oct 21, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another link...
Manny Lawson and Super Mario were teammates at NC State, playing opposite sides of the line at defensive end… both were drafted in the first round
by Quiet Fool on Oct 21, 2009 8:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
so thats why
we thought Lawson could pass rush
by goatfather on Oct 21, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah all those 1 on 1s against college RTs will really boost your sack totals
by Rep the Bay on Oct 21, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This should be a good game and a test for the 49ers
It is not like Huston is a constant power house or even a real serious contender to make the playoffs (in my mind), but they could if they keep playing like they did last week. I must say that they have looked good at times, but they just seem to lack the consistency from week in and week out. If it is the same team that showed up for the Jets then I would give us the win hands down.
Also, after our last game, this game should show where the heart and soul of this 49ers team is. Are they still shaking their heads from the beat down the Falcons gave us or do they look back at a game like the Vikings knowing they can play with anyone in the NFL. I say they get up like a champion type boxer, shaking it off, just seeing the past game as a lucky punch from an opponent and that they will keep slugging it out!
Not stating this in any way to start and argument, but this game could be critical for Hill and I think he knows it. I could easily see him getting benched if he comes out and plays real poorly in the 1st half. Just my 2 cents
11-5... My 49ers pre-season prediction!
by Ten-Man on Oct 21, 2009 8:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
agree about Hill
Its time for him to bear some responsibility.
by goatfather on Oct 21, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I figure it's time I weigh in with my expert analysis...
GO NINAHS AWW YEEEEAH STOMP DEM TEXCANTS
by Ninjames on Oct 21, 2009 9:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Another Test
I’m curious to see how we bounce back. Coming off a bye helps of course and Texans will be testing our defense for sure. I think if we play solid disciplined football we have this win. I know we can run the ball on this defense, gotta step it up on the O-line that’s for sure and still a lot of unanswered questions on offense.
Lets get it going this week and not look back!!
by azNinerfan on Oct 21, 2009 9:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you will be surprised at how good the Texans run defense is now that they have addressed the issues.
See my post above to understand the difference.
Remember we faced the leading rusher in Cedric Benson last week and held him to 46 yards. The difference is that the Texans have finally made all their personnel moves on defense and people now understand the scheme.
Just saying, don’t be surprised if the running game isn’t what you thought it would be.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there is a big difference between cedric benson...
and frank gore.
"You look at Vladimir Radmanovic, this guy is cut from stone. As if Michelangelo was reading and a lightening bolt flashed before him."
-- Bill Walton, 2.8.2004
by rekehavoc on Oct 21, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point. Frank Gore wasn't the league's leading rusher going into last week.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frank Gore had more yards before he got hurt though...
Through 2 games, 231-217…
by TheNiner on Oct 21, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, and we really arguing semantics.
Gore is a fantastic back. I’m a big believer in his future.
I don’t think his running style is suited well to putting up big numbers against Houston, because I believe you need a finesse back to make the cutbacks and accelerate when there is nothing in the middle, which will be the case often on Sunday.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
gores strength is cutting and accelerating
"You look at Vladimir Radmanovic, this guy is cut from stone. As if Michelangelo was reading and a lightening bolt flashed before him."
-- Bill Walton, 2.8.2004
by rekehavoc on Oct 21, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not talking about the make a cut and run for the gap.
I mean a back who can shift direction and break it laterally down the line around the ends.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Texans D
Your LB’s are really reeeally young which = inexperienced and not always consitant. The entire left side of your D-line is really weak. Cody has a whopping 5 tackles and 0 sacks and Smith is also a below average DE. In fact the entire left side of your defense looks very exploitable with the exception of maybe Cushing (but like I said, he’s really you). I think you are blowing your team up just a little bit and are still enjoying that Kool-aid the night after.
I don’t think you team is better than the Cards (we beat them), I definitely dont think you are better than Minnesota and it took them a miracle pass with :12 left on the clock to beat us. If we stay to the left side of the field a majority of the time we should be fine. And I will say this again, Big game is written all over Vernon Davis against the Texans. Your DB’s are too small to cover him, and you have zero LB’s fast enough to cover him
by Drew K on Oct 21, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(but like I said, he’s really *young)
by Drew K on Oct 21, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's talk again after the game Sunday. You are going of hype apparently.
Brian Cushing, our inexperienced rookie linebacker, was just named AFC defensive player of the week. First rookie this year to get that honor.
But keep believing the hype. You will see a different defensive game than you are expecting on Sunday.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats fine...
I have a feeling its going to be the same conversation as the ones we had with the Hawks and Cards fans.
It’s not hype when it’s true. Go look at the stats…
I have NFL Sunday ticket so that I can watch every game on Sunday so I have seen the Texans play. I think you are overly optimistic. I have seen the same old Texans even in the wins.
by Drew K on Oct 21, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you see "the same old Texans" then you aren't watching.
Honestly, that statement is absurd so I won’t even bother to address it.
Let’s just agree to disagree and you will change your mind on Sunday.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see..
a possible sig\av bet between youse two.
:pocpcorn:
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Oct 21, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A signature\avatar bet...
I had one with Fearless Frog before the SEA game. The loser has to sport a signature (like my "Well, we’re waiting above my name) and also wear a pic (like your #16) that the winner chooses for a couple of weeks. The loser also has to man up with a Fanpost congratulating the winner.
It’s basically a “Putting Your Money Where Your Mouth Is” type of bet. I think it’s a great idea for youse two to do, complete with it’s own Fanshot\Post.
:popcorn:
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Oct 21, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got it… I didn’t notice that “pocpcorn” was a typo.
by Drew K on Oct 21, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh...
typo on popcorn. Nevermind.
I don’t bet… I will jinx the team if I do. I’m supersticous
by Drew K on Oct 21, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a good idea. We could do a bet like that where the loser has to put something in their sig for a week that the winner picks.
Be fun.
Also…Triple coverage isn’t so hot on AJ either: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFrFz7BWZ6I
Love that play so much….just crazy.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a great play by Johnson
I saw it live and was pretty impressed. The only thing is that when he caught the ball, he was wide open. He burnt the single coverage and then ran over 3 guys to the endzone so it wasn’t truly triple coverage
by Drew K on Oct 21, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya I know...I just like watching it.
He such a freaking monster. Laid out the linebacker and then roflstomped the DBs….nuts.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's w/o question
your best player. If you keep him, I think he’ll set a bunch of team records that will never be touched
by Drew K on Oct 21, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's kinda why..
you do these sig bets. You’re really sticking your neck out for your team.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Oct 21, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im all for it. Come on Drew, lets do it. I'm game.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me
if I do it, the Niners will lose…
You all can make that bet. You seemed to have luck with FF drummer. You should go all in
by Drew K on Oct 21, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's like this..
Fan A: “Your team sucks”.
Fan B: “Your team sucks worse”
Fan A: “We’ll see after Sunday”.
Fan B: “Sig bet?”.
I’m sure the bet will have no effect on the 49ers.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Oct 21, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To make things interesting then
involve yourself. 3 way bet. If the Niners lose, he can pick my sig but I get to pick your sig. If they win, then I pick his and you can pick mine.
by Drew K on Oct 21, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sig bets are done between..
two people. If I were gonna make a sig bet on this game, I would make it with Tex. But I’m not the one involved with this “We’ll see after Sunday” dynamic here.
Besides, I have “The Return of the Seachicken” already in reserve for the next game.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Oct 21, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
ok…
Probably gonna pass on the bet. I am eriely (sp?) supersticous and I want the Niners to win this weekend. EVERY time I bet against them, they lose. Especially after watching the garbage I had to sit through against the Falcons. Sorry TexansForever, no bet, but best of luck Sunday.
Are you secretly Don King drummer? Cause you’re sure trying to get this one rolling…. lol.
by Drew K on Oct 21, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No problem man, I totally understand the superstition thing.
If you change your mind, let me know.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And good luck on Sunday.......November 1st.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, I hate Don King..
Though I wish I had his $$.
The cool thing about these bets and threads is that it makes it more fun for everybody here. The Sig bet thread between Frog and I got huge which was cool because we get to interact with fans of the opposing team, which brings more traffic. I saw that potential with you and Tex, and I tried to encourage that. =)
But hey, Tex understands your reason why not to have a sig bet, so a shake hands and good luck is very cool too.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Oct 21, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think its cool
don’t get me wrong. I thought the bet between you and FF was pretty awesome and it did bring in a good amount of traffic. So for that it is good. I think rlott#42 has one going with someone else also…
But it will be fun again week 13 to have the backs and forths with their (Seattle) fans. Although, if they continue to play like they did against AZ, it may be with a little less fire as it was week 2.
by Drew K on Oct 21, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does it matter that Cushing was defensive player of the week?
Patrick Willis has won that award.
So?
That doesn’t mean he can cover Vernon Davis…..
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 21, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
If you look at their defensive lineup, they really don’t have a guy they can stick on him and feel confident with
by Drew K on Oct 21, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see..
a possible sig bet here between youse.
:popcorn:
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Oct 21, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Opps wrong spot, look above.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Oct 21, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do remember after the Seahawks game a few stories bubbling up about Frank Gore tricking the Seahawks inexperienced LB’s into the wrong holes or wrong positions. I’m not sure how a RB does this nor have I heard such a concept mentioned before but it’s at least worth noting that Gore is an experienced and savvy RB.
by bignerd on Oct 21, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said before up above, Texans last three games
Wk4 vs. Oak —> rushing offense ranked 28th yds per game
Wk5 vs. Ari —> rushing offense ranked 31st yds per game
Wk6 vs. Cin —> rushing offense ranked 14th yds per game
11-5... My 49ers pre-season prediction!
by Ten-Man on Oct 21, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disciplined is the word
Kubiak runs Shanahan’s offense. Lots of misdirection, bootleg and play-action. They set you with formation and the running game then attempt to gash you with big pass plays to Johnson and the TE. We have excellent team speed but if we over-pursue they will hit us for a handful of 20+ yard plays. That’s enough, without turnovers, to win the game.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 21, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cin at Tex??
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Texas jump out in front first. So I think Cin. got away from the run quicker then they wanted to. Especially in the 3rd qtr. Not saying we should stick with the run. Just a thought
by azNinerfan on Oct 21, 2009 9:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cincy had the lead at halftime.
They were held scoreless in the second half. So late in the game they did go away from the run.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Reggie Bush Bowl mention?
The game had 4 weeks of hype since both teams were the unquestioned worst in the league. Texan’s didn’t even pick Reggie despite the college crowd’s ZOMG, REGGIE BUSH DA BEST EVA! Also, remember 49ers fans were pissed that Nolan actually coached the team to a win.
by bignerd on Oct 21, 2009 9:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yup, i remember that
But the niners had beat the rams the week before and won another game so by the time that game rolled around it wasnt quite the “Reggie Bush Bowl” the media expected it to be, since they ended up with the #1 pick and we had 6 i believe. I do remember Arnaz Battle making an amazing catch in either the 4th quarter or OT, in the rain no less and on a ball from A. Smith.
Not sure why I remember so much about such a forgettable game
by Rep the Bay on Oct 21, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about an all pressure defense like the Broncos did on MNF?
The key to winning, other than the obvious of turnovers-red zone success-special teams- is pressuring Schaub. The Texans have the ability to be very explosive and a better down the field team than AZ. Plus, we play AZ twice very year so we new their personell and tendencies very well. Not the case here.
We must be willing to constantly send five, six or even seven men after Schaub. Do to him what teams have done to us. Bring pressure, hit him and put their passing game out of rhythm. We may give up some plays but we will anyway if there is little pass rush. Force the issue, force some turnovers. It worked for the Jets. Laying back got Tennessee, Cincy and Jacksonville gashed.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 21, 2009 9:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is dead on.
Schaub is the key to beating us. If you cannot get pressure on him, he will shred a defense.
Now he is also pretty much garaunteed for one interception per game, so that helps.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope its not dre bly who gets that interception
"You look at Vladimir Radmanovic, this guy is cut from stone. As if Michelangelo was reading and a lightening bolt flashed before him."
-- Bill Walton, 2.8.2004
by rekehavoc on Oct 21, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
as long as he remembers to put the ball in the outside hand, you know like what they teach you when your 9. Oh that’s right, he couldn’t do that. The other hand was busy being awesome.
by goatfather on Oct 21, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
about the pass rush
We need to disguise it a little better. More corner blitzes – More P Willy up the middle – More stunts and twists.
by goatfather on Oct 21, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Texans Forever: question
What is the crowd noise like there?
We have had plenty of problems with crowd noise. In a match-up this even, something small like that could play a big role.
by goatfather on Oct 21, 2009 10:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Crowd noise in Reliant is probably average.
We are a huge tailgating town. in fact, some Yahoo! thing had us rated as the #1 tailgating town now.
This is probably true because while our games sell out, half the people stay outside and tailgate and watch the game.
If we move the game to the parking lot, you’re in trouble.
Inside the stadium, the noise level is probably average at best as compared to the rest of the league.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey 9er fans...
would love an outside opinion. both sides are biased….
http://www.battleredblog.com/2009/10/21/1094523/wayne-vs-johnson
also…
your coach, Mike Singletary, graduated from Worthing High School (here in Houston) i didn’t see that listed as a connection.
You are banned from Music City Miracles. (twice)
You are banned from Blogging The Boys.
by chrisd21 on Oct 21, 2009 10:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the connections are
49ers – Texans, not 49ers – Houston, Texas.
by Sebaz49 on Oct 21, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It stated he was from Houston!
HOUSTON TIES – 49ers head coach Mike Singletary, S Michael Lewis and FB Moran Norris are originally from Houston, TX
11-5... My 49ers pre-season prediction!
by Ten-Man on Oct 21, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Cushing was just named AFC defensive player of the week....
The kid has talent!
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 11:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So I guess this is going to be the "ask the Texans" post?
Here is my question:
Why does Kubiak replace Slaton with the talent-less Chris Brown in short yardage situations?
It really irritates me, Chris Brown sucks, and he fumbles just as much as Slaton.
He lost 2 games for you already.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 21, 2009 11:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ask the texans post
Actually, I spoke with the Texans blogger and the plan is this:
We’ll exchange 5 questions. After we get our answers, I’m going to post a FanPost with the answers and then open that up for Q&A with the Texans blogger. I’ll move it to the front page, but it’ll be a FanPost originally, which means folks can Rec it and it’ll stay up top (even after I move it to the front page). But feel free to use this for exchange between the readers on both sites.
Also, seeing as we’ve lost 2 straight games where we had any sort of trash talking thread (Falcons and I believe the VIkings, although I could be wrong), we’re going to avoid using that until the 49ers get back on track.
by Fooch on Oct 21, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Trash Talking?
Well, not like there is a huge history with the Texans, so it would be kind of boring this week.
11-5... My 49ers pre-season prediction!
by Ten-Man on Oct 21, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thread
Really? Do you want to take the blame for a loss b/c you dared go against the trash talking thread losing streak?!?!?!?!
by Fooch on Oct 21, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really
Isn’t the trash talking thread’s record 1-1? Win over the Hawks and loss against the Falcons. The problem with the Falcon thread was first finding Falcon fans and than they were too classy to participate.
by bignerd on Oct 21, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
thread
I think there was an unofficial one mixed in there that somebody put up. I thought it was the Vikings game, but I’m not 100% sure.
by Fooch on Oct 21, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine
I can see the argument for the lack of interest playing the Texans (albeit they are the cousin’s of Cowboy fans despite their denials).
However, I’m going to fight the idea that the trash talking thread is responsible for any kind of losing streak . . . unless of course Nate Clements and Mark Roman are posting messages instead of studying coverage schemes.
by bignerd on Oct 21, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
responsibility for losing streaks
It’s part of my paranoia. If the 49ers lose when I wear a certain shirt or jersey, that gets removed from the rotation for a little while.
by Fooch on Oct 21, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I stopped eating Burgers on Sunday after the Brett Favre debacle
I ate my burger, came back…only to see Brett Favre score the GW TD….
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 21, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No answer?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 21, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Believe me, we agree with Chris Brown sucking.
In short yardage, Kubiak doesn’t feel llike Slaton can drive the pile or force the gap.
We don’t have a true short yardage back and that kills us. We are literally 2 yards from potentially being a 5-1 team.
So yes it is frustrating. The Texans had SIX running backs in camp yesterday trying out for the short yardage game.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why was Slaton replaced in the 4th quarter?
With the almighty Chris Brown…..?
Slaton is in my fantasy team so I’m sick of seeing Kubiak take him out of the game in short yardage situations.
Bringing in Chris Brown just tells the opposition to put 11 men in the box because it’s going to be a run play…..Slaton can do soooo much more.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 21, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No argument here.
Most of us are sick of Chris Brown. Kubiak sees something in him, not sure what.
That said, he DID have more rushing yards on Sunday than Slaton. /shrug
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I hope he cuts it out
I have an important fantasy match up this week and my No. 1 RB has a bye.
Slaton better rack up tons of rec yards (something the 49ers hand out freely to opposing RBs)
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 21, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 yards from 5-1?
Had you scored at the end vs Jax and AZ that would have only gotten you OT (and perhaps Jax scores at the end of regualriton to win) so that is a bit of hyperbole. We’re one dropped INT from 4-1. But that’s the NFL now. I do think it’s wrong for any Niner fans to assume that because you lost to Jax that you’ll be easy for us to beat. That’s a division game and they know your team nad their tendencies quite well. Plus, regardless of records, Jax & Houston always play tight games and the underdog alwasy seems to win.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 21, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said POTENTIALLY 5-1, thus acknowledging that fact.
Please quote me accurately.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 21, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not the point
We are trying to knock on Chris Brown.
He’s a mutual enemy.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Oct 21, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a nice response.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Oct 21, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm Breaking Out...
The Patrick Willis Jersey this Sunday. I bought it in 2007 at the Niners vs. Tampa Bay game, it was one of their 5 wins that year and was BY’s last home game. That jersey is 2-0 at home games and hasn’t been broken out this season ever since the Philadelphia debacle last year. So, my point is… it will make it’s Singletary Era debut this sunday.
Let’s hope it brings the magic.
"We want WINNERS!" - Coach Singletary
by cassusriff on Oct 21, 2009 8:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Also
As lame as it sounds, my girlfriend is a huge niners fan. The two games she hasn’t watched or listened on the radio with me? Minnesota and Atlanta. Needless to say, she’s gonna be parked on my couch on sunday morning.
I’m pulling out all the stops for the niners this week.
"We want WINNERS!" - Coach Singletary
by cassusriff on Oct 21, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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