Golden Nuggets: No trades, folks

by Ninjames on Oct 21, 2009 3:15 AM PDT in Golden Nuggets Comment 25 comments

Morning everybody, welcome to today's edition of the Golden Nuggets. As like the past few days, I don't think I'll be making it to a jump on this edition but I'm hoping that news picks up in the next few days as more and more previews of the Texans game find their way out. There was no real news yesterday as the trading deadline came and went without any moves from the 49ers. I was hoping that the team would be able to get some kind of deal done, but as I look at who was available there really weren't very many good players, or rather; there weren't many players on the block I'd be willing to give a significant amount for. I feel like the 49ers could really use their two first rounds picks in next years draft, as the deadline got closer I heard more and more from friends about giving Carolina their pick back for Julius Peppers and every day I hated the idea more. How about some links, now...

Now Michael Crabtree is starting for the 49ers and all the pressure rests on QB Shaun Hill's shoulders. I'm not sure how I feel about him at this point in the season. (MercuryNews.com)

Taking a look at the Texans, an early preview from the official website. (49ers.com)

Yes, the 49ers did not make any trade moves before the deadline yesterday. Then again, who was expecting one? (PressDemocrat.com)

Is the team doing all it can to keep HB Frank Gore healthy? Is there more they can do? (MercuryNews.com)

A bit of a profile and story on the 49ers tight ends coach, Pete Hoener. I honestly don't read these, but then again I already know a lot about Pete. (49ers.com)

Could Michael Crabtree be what fixes this bland offense the 49ers are running? (SacBee.com)

He's certainly ahead of his learning curve, or ahead of what everyone expected what his learning curve was. (SFGate.com)

Here's a review of the 49ers offense throughout the first five games of the season. (NinerNoise.com)

Because I can, I wrote a bit about Crabtree starting and some of the changes on the offensive line, so check it out. (NFLTouchdown.com)

Apparently some university thought it'd be a good use of resources to study whether or not it is beneficial to pick a certain side of a coin during an NFL coin toss. Without trying to be rude, it's a completely baseless study that cannot possibly have a factual result. Not amused or impressed. (NBCBayArea.com)

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Singletary on Leadership

I wanted to add in another Golden Nugget. This has nothing to do with the 49ers, but it is a video of Singletary talking to an entrepreneur about a barber shop. It is kind of interesting. http://businessonmain.msn.com/default.aspx?episode=71&source=msneditorial&gt1=25049

by twolfe2 on Oct 21, 2009 6:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

nuggets

You’re more than welcome to add any links you stumble across. We want this to be a community link dump of sorts.

by Fooch on Oct 21, 2009 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nuggets

Sorry I am still new at this.

by twolfe2 on Oct 21, 2009 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

no problem

Welcome to the site. If you ever have any questions feel free to ask in one of the threads or email me at ninersnation@gmail.com

by Fooch on Oct 21, 2009 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

ANY questions?

Because I was wondering if I should do leftovers for lunch today or just get takeout or something. I’d appreciate input.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Oct 21, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

As a high ranking representative of Niners Nation

I will suggest takeout.

by Ninjames on Oct 21, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

takeout

Whenever I bring leftovers in to eat lunch (now in school or back when I was working), there was at least a 50% chance I’d end up going out to eat.

by Fooch on Oct 21, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll always encourage more links.

It’s just, I do these every day, so it will get tedious for me to say in every edition “post anything you have” etc. So keep ’em coming if you got ’em.

by Ninjames on Oct 21, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

But your...

… intro is always the same!

[/kidding]

by sfgfan on Oct 21, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ya'll are reachin'!

:[ You’d miss me if I left. I know it.

by Ninjames on Oct 21, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

double posted

I started a post of my own on this, not knowing we should post links in the GN thread. I, too, am a newbie here…

great video though!

Pete

by StereoPete on Oct 21, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

no problem

Trial and error is the way to go. That and asking questions.

by Fooch on Oct 21, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Although, there is a need at some positions

it makes no sense to trade one of the 2 top picks we have. They didn’t pick up any impact players during Free agent Market and trading for a player most likely wouldn’t have gotten anyone worth a 1st round pick. So, forget about it !
Back to the Draft next year !

by LASVEGASNINER on Oct 21, 2009 7:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Well...

I am starting to read your articles more now that they don’t all start the same way.

It's Cotton baby

by Cotton on Oct 21, 2009 8:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I hate you so much, Cotton,

by Ninjames on Oct 21, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sometimes it isn't about plain hard work, but raw talent

I think when it comes to the subject of Michael Crabtree starting this Sunday and potentially bumping the entire wide receiver core for the starting position, some fans are unwilling to recognize the reality that even though we have seven (or is it eight now?) wide receivers on the 53-man roster, some of them simply aren’t good enough.

I respect Josh Morgan and I really like his character, but he has done nothing to convince me that he should be our number-one or number-two receiver. Ideally, I think 49ers management will sooner or later promote Michael Crabtree to the starting lineup opposite Isaac Bruce, with Brandon Jones or Jason Hill in third, Josh Morgan in fourth and Arnaz Battle as the last option. Assuming Isaac Bruce retires after this season, I think the depth chart will have Michael Crabtree and Brandon Jones or Jason Hill as the starters.

Alas, fellow 49ers fans, sometimes a player can put in seventy-one days to several years of hard work and never develop or get good. Sometimes somebody can just come in and sweep both management and the majority of fans off their feet with their awesome ability. Hey, Jerry Rice did it roughly twenty-four years ago!

by JHill26 on Oct 21, 2009 10:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

And about Shaun Hill...

I honestly think some people are completely underestimating Shaun Hill’s arm and his accuracy, both of which were, in my opinion, demonstrated quite nicely when he took over for J.T. O’Sullivan in the second half of the 2008-2009 season. Shaun Hill obviously takes heat for his lack of passing game, but it must be understood that the reason he is underconfident in passing is because he has been underconfident in the matter of whether or not his receivers can make the needed plays. In hindsight, he does not want to risk an interception and hand us an embarrassing loss as opposed to a respectable one. He has also had obvious folly from his offensive line, which has, even in the past five games, showed clear signs of struggle and allowed for quarterback sacks.

Hopefully Shaun Hill will feel confident about Michael Crabtree and see him as his go-to receiver the same way Garcia and later Rattay saw Owens as a go-to receiver.

by JHill26 on Oct 21, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I tend to agree...

Hill is a pretty consistent guy, with a real challenge with the O-line he has (or doesn’t). Given better protection I think he’d be more of a force. I also think that there is an element intentionally talking him down so that he’s not as important to other teams’ gameplans. Crabtree they’ll be planning for. Hill..well…eh…always better for your opponent to underestimate you.

by StereoPete on Oct 21, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I really admire Hill’s safe and secure throws, but I really admire boldness. And I say that not because I happen to share the same last name and am probably a distant relative to him and Jason Hill (lol), but because he shows a certain undying tenacity that we really haven’t seen in our quarterbacks since Steve Young.

I’m twenty-four, so I really was just born when Jerry Rice was drafted. But to my understanding, for a good while people were critical of Joe Montana’s ability to throw the deep pass until Jerry Rice came along. By that token, I think people shouldn’t question Shaun Hill’s ability to throw the deep ball (just hearken back to last season), but rather, the receivers’ ability to break coverage, get open and catch it. Subsequently, that’s what I am critical of Josh Morgan for. The guy can’t seem to get open.

by JHill26 on Oct 21, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wouldn't give up on Morgan

Five games into his second season. He missed a number of games last year with staph infection. Just look at Roddy White’s first couple of seasons in Atlanta. Two Sunday’s ago every Niner fan wishes he was on our roster. Two years ago we’d have been calling him a bust. Not every WR hits the ground running with great numbers. I think Morgan will be fine, especially once the O-line is improved and perhaps the QB position as well. If Crabtree is what we expect, he’ll certainly benefit in future seasons from playing alongside Crabs, VD and Gore.

Also, Rice didn’t miss training camp, joined a defending SB champ, had Montana at QB and Walsh as coach of the offense. He also was considered by many to be a bit of bust due to dropped passes. We’ll have to be patient and remember that even if he’s making great plays, he’s still a rookie and will likely make some mistakes.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Oct 21, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This

As of right now, Morgan is probably going to be the 49ers’ second best WR (at the very least) going into next season. He’s a starter next year (barring any unforeseen issues).

by sfgfan on Oct 21, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Very good point.

While Josh Morgan may never live up to the expectations us fans have based on what we got from Jerry Rice’s many years of excellence, I think it’s safe to say he could at least be as good as John Taylor if he turns out to be good enough. Otherwise, Josh Morgan has a lot of heart and shows a lot of dedication to the team. I just wish he could show more.

by JHill26 on Oct 21, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it’s safe to say he could at least be as good as John Taylor if he turns out to be good enough.

I actually think Morgan reminds me a lot of John Taylor. I know it’s still too early to tell and that the results just aren’t there, but the style of play is truly reminiscent of Taylor (great hands, enough quickness, and loads of determination to break tackles and move forward).

by sfgfan on Oct 21, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep... and JT didn't start making plays until his third year

And became a Pro-Bowler in his fourth. If JT were on the team now we’d likely consider him a disappointment. Truth is, if Morgan is like Taylor that’s perfect. There are only so many true alpha #1 WRs at any one time in the league. If that guys is Crabtree, then having a solid #2 and a better than adequate #3 (Jones and/or Hill) gives us all you can ask for at the WR position. TE and RB are taken care of. With an improved line no QB can ask for more.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Oct 21, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs