Golden Nuggets: Revamped, rested and ready

by Ninjames on Oct 22, 2009 3:15 AM PDT in Golden Nuggets Comment 18 comments

Morning everybody. I've got a good amount of links for you today--or at least I think I do. Still have yet to make the jump the past few days. Anyway, I'm in a bit of a hurry so I'll just touch up lightly on what we have. Of course there's some Michael Crabtree stuff, a bit about some of the other 49ers receivers and an update on Frank Gore. I think I may have a couple previews for you, but of course no promises.There's articles about the offense and I'm sure I have some on the defense. So I figured I'd take the time to throw my opinion in the discussion about Crabtree starting and namely, how Brandon Jones feels about the move. There's talk that he's upset but do you want to know my stance on the subject? I don't care. Jones has done nothing since coming back from his injury, regardless of how the offense has been as a whole if Crabtree comes in and can do more in the same situation then I don't want anything to do with the guy who's free agent signing I was opposed with from the beginning. With that happy opinion aside, how about some links?

Brandon Jones may indeed be upset by the father speedy promotion of Michael Crabtree. (ProFootballTalk.com)

Which of course begs the question, what happens to Jones? (PressDemocrat.com)

Shaun Hill is our starting QB... until he's not. Huh. (PressDemocrat.com)

Here's yesterday's edition of Singletary's Notebook. (49ers.com)

The offense is revamped, rested and ready for the Texans. I certainly hope so, on all three fronts. (49ers.com)

Not everyone thinks that Crabtree starting is a good idea, like this guy. (SFGate.com)

HB Frank Gore took part in a full practice and seems ready to play. (PressDemocrat.com)

It seems the 49ers recent drafts aren't yielding much of an impact. I really hope this is remedied next season. (MercuryNews.com)

The 49ers offense needs Michael Crabtree. I agree with this statement completely. (MercuryNews.com)

Niners signed RB Keon Lattimore to the practice squad to fill the place vacated by Kory Sheets. (49ers.com)

Singletary's message by starting Crabtree is simple: he wants to win. (PressDemocrat.com)

The Texans say they know what Michael Crabtree can do. (SacBee.com)

Concussions are really a sad thing--it's actually pretty depressing how football and brain damage pretty much hand in hand. (SFGate.com)

What do you guys think of Nate Clements? Has he played like he has been expected? I like him and hope he sticks around. (MercuryNews.com)

Good bye or bad bye. (SFGate.com)

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Who is Brandon Jones?

Where is the receiver production? and who should be held accountable for the lack of?
I dont know where Jones fits in with the future of this team, The Crabtree aquisition seemed to have voided his need for the time being. However, everyone needs to keep in mind especially my favorite WR Morgan that Bruce’s time is running out and there will come a time to show your cappabilities. Just be patient and bite your tongue, Jones won’t get anywhere faster by voicing his complaints.

by dalien82 on Oct 22, 2009 9:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Jones

While I definitely think he’s a little out of place this year (though that may have been different had he not had that shoulder injury, as he was doing well in camp up until that point), I think his acquisition may have future years in mind, too. It’s pretty clear that the front office didn’t think they’d be landing anyone like Crabtree in the draft, so they took Jones to work him into the lineup as Bruce is phased out of it. No matter how you slice it, that scenario still exists for next year, as Bruce probably won’t return (even if he doesn’t retire). Instead of being a #2 WR, Jones will now just become an over-paid #3.

He supposedly showed promise during camp, so hopefully he’ll pick it up over the course of the rest of the season, and continue that into next season when he’ll for sure get more playing time.

by sfgfan on Oct 22, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

I can see the local sports story 12 months from now, comparing Jones’ 2009 season to 2010. Next year at this time he’ll be the #3WR, have made it through camp without an injury, have better chemistry with the QB (whomever it is) and thru five games have 9 catches for 185 yards and 1 long TD. He’ll be credited with stretching the field and doing great work in the slot.

I do see that happening. Being healthy, no Bruce and better line play will help make him a factor all of next season. That’s just a long time from now for him to see it that way.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Oct 22, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know...

… if you’re being sarcastic, but I had no intention of painting a rosy picture of Jones.

I still have no idea what kind of production a #3 WR can get under Raye. Like you said, though, we’ll find out once the offensive line problems are solved (if they’re ever solved).

by sfgfan on Oct 22, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No sarcasm toward you

I meant it. You know how a new guy joins a team and it doesn’t quite go the way he or fans want, but that second year in the system, plus better luck with health, and it all takes off the way it was expected? I could see him catching a couple of deep balls early next year and the usual media contrast story, from how lost he was now to how comfortable he will be then. I guess it was more sarcasm toward the media and keeping the perspective that Jones’ presence, like Crabtree, is about the future as much as this season.

I do think had Jones not gotten hurt he’d certainly not be catchless. He and all receivers would have better numbers if our line play was better but he is also hurt in that his training camp plays were made with Smith at QB. I wonder if Jones and Crabtree had played in the pre-season, would Alex be our QB now (not looking to open debate).

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Oct 22, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I do think had Jones not gotten hurt he’d certainly not be catchless.

I definitely agree with this. I think Jones, unlike Hill, actually started to draw the 49ers coaches’ attention as camp wore on. It’s too bad he got hurt just before he could take off.

I wonder if Jones and Crabtree had played in the pre-season, would Alex be our QB now (not looking to open debate).

I hear you on the not trying to open a debate part. It is an interesting question, nonetheless.

by sfgfan on Oct 22, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

it says he'll play special teams

I assume for now it’ll be in coverage…can he return kicks/punts? Does anyone know if he ever has? It’d be nice to take that 4.3 speed and the guaranteed $ we gave him and turn it into something useful this year before Bruce retires

Also, I havent seen much film on him, thanks to his preseason injury and his lack of playing time the past two games. Next season, can he excel as the Welker-like slot Wr? Seems like he has the speed for it, and he might be a bigger target as well

by Rep the Bay on Oct 22, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Welker

I’ve always been under the assumption that Welker isn’t really fast. If anything, I think Josh Morgan compares to Welker better than Jones would.

by sfgfan on Oct 22, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Am I the only one

who knows that Jason Hill has 4.3 speed? Seriously? Ugh.

by Ninjames on Oct 22, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ninjames

Got some play-by-play Madden world this week against Houston?

I’d like to see how that plays out with Gore and Crabtree in the lineup. [and Coffee as the kick returner ;) ]

(not sure if you can rotate the O-line at RG though…)

by fortyniners on Oct 23, 2009 1:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Comment on the PFT article

They look at the Brandon Jones move as a poor roster decision. In hindsight, it can be considered as such, but at the time the niners were looking at Issac Bruce leaning towards retirement and didnt anticipate that the BPA at the #10 pick would be Crabtree. If we didnt draft a WR and Bruce retired, our depth chart wouldve been down to Morgan, Hill, and Ziegler. While I wouldve preferred a persuit of Houshmanzadeh, at the time this wasnt just management throwing money at whatever free agent visited Santa Clara.

I know I’m mostly preaching to the choir on this matter, but I just wanted to demonstrate to any newbies that PFT didnt have their facts right with that conjecture

by Rep the Bay on Oct 22, 2009 9:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

And then people would be critical of the FO for having no backup plan at WR

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Oct 22, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know I’m mostly preaching to the choir on this matter…

I supposed you’d be surprised at how many people actually feel the same way about Jones as PFT does.

by sfgfan on Oct 22, 2009 10:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Blah

Reply FAIL.

Meant to be a reply to Rep the Bay’s last comment.

by sfgfan on Oct 22, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why not SPREAD THE DEFENSE!!!!!

i dont understand this. the whole off season our strength was our recievers, we have never been this deep at reciever. then the season comes along, and we stick to the run. our O line gets beat by blitzes and we cant figure out how to attack the D. spread them out. make the D use their 4th and 5th DB’s and let them stick our 4th and 5th WR and lets see whos better. we can nickle and dime our way down field, once we get to the opponents 40/30 hill can throw it deep. I do this all the time, but then again, im playing Madded lol what do you think?

"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are"

by Bo$$Ixta! on Oct 22, 2009 10:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Why not SPREAD THE DEFENSE!!!!!

Because in theory, the OL gets beat by three and four man rushes. Spreading them out really doesn’t help.

by sfgfan on Oct 22, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mc Boo Foo, Look at 2008 draft!

2008

1. Choice to New Orleans via New England (10)
1. Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina (29) (Choice from Ind.)
2. Chilo Rachal, G, USC
3. Choice to Chicago
3. Reggie Smith, CB, Oklahoma (75) (Choice from Chi.)
4. Cody Wallace, C, Texas A&M (107)
5. Choice forfeited
6. Josh Morgan, WR, Virginia Tech (174)
7. Larry Grant, LB, Ohio State (214)

by bignerd on Oct 22, 2009 11:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

It looks bad, but give it time. Balmer is still a work in progress who could very well become a strong 3-4 DE with a little patience (look at what happened to Soaps with a little patience). Rachal is still young, he’s a bruiser as a run-blocking guard, and he’ll get better at pass blocking when he can get a little chemistry with whoever ends up being the RT. Cody Wallace I haven’t heard much about, but Josh Morgan was a find in the 6th, and Larry Grant… meh. But no one thought our number 1 pick would be at 10, and moving back in the third and losing the fifth wasn’t really McC’s fault

Also known to haunt as theghostoftravisdenker and theaccidentalghostofsergioromo.

by theghostofjasonellison on Oct 22, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs