Any Positives Out There Niner Fans?
by Livemaxxx on Oct 25, 2009 7:57 PM PDT
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Hey guys I go as Livemaxxx and I need a favor. I do a weekly post on Stampedeblue, where I analyze a teams strength's and weaknesses. I try to be fair and add a little humor to it. I do this post against weekly Colt opponents and we have you guys this week! So far I have Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, Patrick Willis, and that's it. Can you guy's point me to any other good players on your squad? Please be reasonable and try not add players cause of "Homerism"
Comment as much as you like since I will be checking often.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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DE Justin Smith
P Andy Lee
LT Joe Staley & C Eric Heitmann are good lineman but not Pro Bowl level.
CB Shawntae Spencer has played at a very high level this year . . . could be Pro Bowl.
Actually, if I were you I would just study SS Mark Roman (#28) because Manning is just going to survey the field and throw against him the entire game.
SS Mark Roman (#28)
Roman is a free safety that wears #26? I mean, I know he’s not someone you’re going to care enough about to remember, but you’d think that his number has been called enough over the past few years (who the #$%@ just got beat deep…? Number 26!) to have it burned into your brain.
"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan
I have a memory that tries to block out the bad. In my defense it really hard to pick up his jersey number as he is laying on the ground and the camera is panning towards the WR’s TD celebration. I can usually tell it’s Roman without seeing the jersey. If it’s a pass that looks like it could have been defended and for some unexplainable reason wasn’t than Mark Roman was on coverage.
Roman has played more SS this season with Lewis’s brain getting scrambled often. Yet, it’s even sadder to think his natural role is FS.
Agree on Smith and Lee
Spencer has been decent, but pro bowl level is probably pushing it.
And considering the OL’s play this season, it’s hard to call anybody good on it with a straight face. Heitmann has never been the same since the leg injury, and Staley gets pushed around at LT too often.
Maybe they just look like good lineman paired next to three turnstiles. I think Staley’s play has been pretty solid. His main job is pass protection. He has given up 3 sacks this season but two of them were early in the game against Jared Allen and Mario Williams on plays were it looked like Shaun Hill was designed to throw an immediate pass, instead just tucked it and took the sack.
What criticisms do you have against Spencer? Given the number of ball thrown it seems QBs have avoided throwing his direction. Andre Johnson only had 2 catches paired against him today.
Thinking about it
You might be right on Spencer – I always picture him playing too soft in coverage and making mistakes, and haven’t given him enough credit for his turnaround and solid play this year as a starter. Knee jerk reaction on my part, my bad.
I hope you are not trying to put words into my mouth. I don’t believe in shutdown corners.
The blogger wanted to know 49ers strengths. Spencer ought to get a mention because he’s played very well this season and could get recognized in the end. He’s not a ball hawk but he has been good in coverage, especially against big, physical receivers like Boldin and Johnson.
Add Crabtree to your list of playmakers.
I was really skeptical before Sunday, but that kid is the real deal.
"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan
by shlecko on Oct 25, 2009 8:21 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Fo-rizzle
Key 3rd down catches, excellent hands, even when knowing he’s gonna get drilled. A serious talent.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 25, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
more to come for sure from crabtree...
its technically his second week of his training camp
I lol'd
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Oct 25, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Some of the players
I wouldn’t count on Roman for the game yet, Lewis did have a scary injury but might be back for the Colts game and in that case Roman won’t start.
Definitely J.Smith and A.Lee.
I would add Josh Morgan at WR to be a sleeper pick at this point. Crabtree took some of his playing time, but this game Morgan had a better game at #3 WR than some of the games being #2.
Also CB Spencer as well. Had an excellent season so far, and he helped keep Texans and A.Johnson to a below average day, even though TE Daniels had a huge day.
very much
I’m putting together tomorrow’s links and give him a mention in the intro paragraph. I honestly think he’s making the leap this season.
by David Fucillo on Oct 25, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
DE Justin Smith (#94)
He’s relentless and he’s usually all over the place.
BTW: Is McKillop going to get his first NFL start next week?
Dallas Clark is going to have a career day……
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
Gulp, good point
More than likely Scott won’t play a lot of snaps. Whens teams go to 3 WR sets the 49ers have brought in Roman for Spikes to increase their coverage ability (insert joke here). Unless another safety supplants Roman in practice he’ll back on the field playing that hybrid LB/SS role.
The 49ers need to learn how to defend the TE
Dallas Clark (IMO) is much more dangerous than Owen Daniels because of the way the Colts use him.
Be afraid fellow niner fans, be very afraid…..
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Oct 26, 2009 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Somebody should sign up for a "Texan Forever" account
And post some BS about how Daniels is unequivocally the best TE in the game.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 26, 2009 2:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Daniels
Daniels might not be the best TE, but he’s a very good TE. He’s improved each year and is looking really good this season (my primary football fantasy team thanks him).
by David Fucillo on Oct 26, 2009 4:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not saying he's not good
Just that TF is just a little bit of a homer.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 26, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
It amazes me how consistenly rude you are.
As for the tight end thing. When did I say that Owen Daniels is “unequivocally the best TE in the game.” PLEASE QUOTE ME. That’s right, you can’t. Because I never said that.
Once again, you twist my words and make some hyperbolic statement.
It’s unreal.
Owen Daniels is among the best tight ends in the game. That is indisputable. Is he the BEST tight end in the game? We will know at the end of the year.
I don’t know why accurately portraying what other people say is such a problem for you. I guess if something doesn’t “fit” your desired version of events, you just fix it so that it does.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Oct 26, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
When you're touting your TE and WR
That are in the “young and promising” category as being better than far, far more established and still very good players, that’s hyperbole.
Is Andre Johnson “very, very good?” Yes. Is Owen Daniels “very, very good?” Yes. But when I, and others, try to tell you that they need to show more to be considered better than Reggie Wayne and Tony Gonzalez, you get in a tizzy and call us haters. Andre Johnson still hasn’t strung together two 1000 yard seasons. Owen Daniels has not gone over 1000 yards once. They’re good, but let’s wait till they show some consistent excellent performance before calling them the best or better than other players who HAVE shown that consistency of excellence.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 26, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you want me to post his stats?
You are banned from Music City Miracles.
Happy Now Tits?
You are banned from Blogging The Boys.
You don't have to IMO that
Clark is better.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 26, 2009 2:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Wasn't a bad strategy
The TD to Daniels hurt since it was just a two man route and Goldson got fooled. Other than that, I’ll take the TE having Daniels’s numbers if the star WR has only two catches. Without the 8 yard TD drive, the strategy held a talented offense in their building to 17 points. If Clark has 7 catches but Wayne has 2, we’re in better shape than those being reversed.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
3 man route
Goldson pulled up to double the crossing receiver, there was also another receiver on the side away from Daniels that was on a deep comeback. It just shows the limitations in our safetys. ERIC BERRY!!!!
Without the 8 yard TD drive, the strategy held a talented offense in their building to 17 points.
Not to mention that 8 yard drive was MADE by a tackle… of PWilly, by an offensive lineman. And he still almost made the tackle. Would have brought up 3rd and long, a likely FG. Grr….
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 26, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
So did Spikes get injured a bit?
I missed the beginning and then saw McKillop on a bunch of plays.
But anyway he had a huge preseason and is excellent on special teams. So I think McKillops will pick it up fast at the pro level in regular season games. Against the run for sure but will need safety help on the coverage.
In addition to the three you listed
Crabtree, Spencer, Justin Smith and Andy Lee as mentioned above by others are legit positives.
Aubrayo Franklin has a thankless job yet does it well.
From a career perspective, you may want to feature Isaac Bruce’s numbers. He’s a future HOF player and this is his last season.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Definitely Justin Smith and probably Crabtree (not a star at this level yet, but he looks like he’s on his way). Joe Staley is a very solid LT. That’s probably just about it.
A little while ago CB Nate Clements would’ve been on the list, but he’s got people around here kinda pissed this season. Seems like he’s gambling and losing a little to much and/or lost a step.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on Oct 25, 2009 11:48 PM PDT reply actions
Except the part
that atleast Clements is still a good and strong tackler when the running backs go his way, hence some of our success against the run this season.
Addai isn’t going to have a good Running game just like all the other RB’s against SF so far (that only means yards but not TD’s and receiving by RB)
I don't think he's lost a step
He’s always been a high-risk guy, going for the INT (and usually not making it) vs. going for the safe play, mistiming jumps, etc. But he’s a sure tackler, great in run help, and a solid #2 CB (or top rate safety masquerading as a CB, pending on how you look at it). Granted, he’s being paid like a #1, but considering the 49ers aren’t in any cap trouble + might have to overpay to lure FAs, it’s no big deal.
Smith looked good.
And both tight ends put on a show.
You are banned from Music City Miracles.
Happy Now Tits?
You are banned from Blogging The Boys.
Seeking perspective from opposing points of view is "lazy"?
A good writer gathers information from all outlets. This comment is senseless.
"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan
Unless this guy does his own research
we could tell him anything and he’d print it. That’s not the way to assure accuracy in your writing. Didn’t mean to be rude, it’s just a simple fact of basic journalism.
Kezarvet
by kezarvet on Oct 27, 2009 7:00 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
UP AND COMING
I THINK YOU GOT TO ADD THE “TREE” NATE THE “GREAT” DAVIS IS THE REAL DEAL, COFFEE WHEN WE GET AN OFFENSIVE LINE, DOM-ZIG IS AN OUTSTANDING RECEIVER. WE NEED TO DRAFT O & D LINE IN THE 2010 DRAFT AND TRADE UP IF A MONSTER BLOCKER OR RUSHER IS THERE AND THAT WILL MAKE SOME SECONDARY GUYS STAND OUT….BROWN IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE BEST COVER GUYS THE NINERS HAD IN A LONG TIME. AND FINALLY BRANDON JONES WILL HELP BIG TIME IF WE CAN GET HIME ON THE FIELD.
players
First off, you need to not keep using all caps.
Second, Zeigler is an outstanding receiver? I like him, but what makes you say he’s outstanding?
by David Fucillo on Oct 29, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
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