Crabtree for Rookie of the Year?!?
by sac-townz finest on Oct 27, 2009 3:39 AM PDT
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PrintI know this may seem a bit bizarre to even ponder this after he missed 6 weeks of action, but it's a question worth asking because well, he's Michael Crabtree. Can he become Offensive Rookie of the Year?
One game can not win him the award, but I was impressed by his performance on Sunday. He played nearly every offensive snap, which was more than any other 49er reveiver. He caught every ball that was thrown to him, except for one. He ran his routes pretty well and seemed to get open often. Five catches for 56 yards in his NFL debut is pretty good, but he would have to step it up to get Offensive Rookie of the Year honors, because I believe he has to beat out these following rookies:
Mark Sanchez- New York Jets QB who has 1178 Passing Yards with 6 TD & 10 INT in 7 Games Played
Matthew Stafford- Detroit Lions QB who has 894 Passing Yards with 3 TD & 6 INT in 4 Games Played.
Percy Harvin- Minnesota Vikings WR who has 23 catches for 285 Yards & 2 TD & 2 Kick Return TD in 7 Games Played.
In my opinion, it is not undoable for Michael Crabtree. He is our best wide receiver on our team, while no other team can say their best WR is a rookie. He could possibly average 6 catches for 80 yards and a TD with Smith as QB, but I believe that we would have to make the playoffs for him to be crowned R.O.Y. What do you think he would have to accomplish for the rest of the season? Do you think it is possible?
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Thanks for helping me with that! It is editted now! Sorry, I’m new at this and trying to get good at this.
Down By the Bay,
Where Al Davis Sucks
Back to my Home
I Dare Not go
For If I do
Singletary Will Say
Have You ever
"Passed on Crabtree on Draft Day
& Picked a Bust Like Heyward-Bey"
by sac-townz finest on Oct 27, 2009 3:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Any other tips?
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Down By the Bay,
Where Al Davis Sucks
Back to my Home
I Dare Not go
For If I do
Singletary Will Say
Have You ever
"Passed on Crabtree on Draft Day
& Picked a Bust Like Heyward-Bey"
by sac-townz finest on Oct 27, 2009 4:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Wear pants.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
But capris are so in right now!
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 27, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
methinks you're a little late on that one
Do you wear capris?
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 28, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Not Sure
Anything is possible because the only two that are frontrunners are Sanchez and Harbin. Alex Smith has to give him one of those signature game moments of 20+ catches or 3 td game.
Revenge is a dish best served in the playoffs!
20+ catches
would tie/break an NFL record. If he had 1 game like that he would be guaranteed to win.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 28, 2009 4:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah… wasn’t it in Jerry Rice’s last home game as a 49er that Terrell Owens broke his old record for most catches in a game?
I remember being really pissed about that. YOU CAN’T JUST LAY OFF OF THE PASSES TO T.O. WHEN YOU’RE SHUTTING OUT CADE MCFREAKINGNOWN AND THE HAPLESS BEARS???
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Man...
I’m still kind of pissed about that.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Why, yes
“Thanks for all the hard work Jerry, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.” – Steve Mariucci
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 28, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I do understand
The Bears were obsessed with preventing Jerry Rice from getting catches against them because they knew we wanted to get the ball to him. They had him double covered with the safety leaning to his side. It was just stupid. T.O. had half the field to himself. It was the only thing we could do in the passing game.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 29, 2009 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, of course the rational part of my brain knows that you don’t take your foot off the gas, and that if they’re giving you T.O. then you have to go to T.O.
But the other part of my brain just wanted to punch something.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Word. I’m not even a T.O. hater but I was pissed that we ruined Jerry’s going away game like that :(
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 29, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless Harvin misses alot of time
I don’t see it happening. Crabtree might be the better player over the course of their careers, but Harvin has too big of a head start, and he is playing for a high profile team with a marquee QB.
I agree
I don’t see it happening unless Crabtree has some games like VD has been having recently. Harvin is great and i know Sanchez has thrown the INT, but he does have some impressive wins underneath him. I also don’t know the stats, but he definitely has a few rushing touchdowns. The site I just checked said he only has two, I thought it was more, but oh well. Crabtree is gonna need to get into the endzone for that to happen. He can’t just have 5 rec. for 56 yards. (not that I am not happy with those numbers).
He can’t just have 5 rec. for 56 yards. (not that I am not happy with those numbers).
Nobody thinks he’ll get it with a string of 5/56/0 performances. But this wwas his first game, and things will go up (and down) from here. A 5/100/2 game on national TV and a few 80 yard games? That’ll do the trick. Harvin is on pace for a pretty good 700 yards and 8TDs overall. If Crabtree can eclipse the yardage number in 5 fewer games, he should be in the discussion. And if Crabtree is doing that well, it means our offense has been picked off the floor, and we’re in the playoff hunt. He’ll get plenty of credit for that.
Likely? Not really, but certainly not outside the realm of possiblity.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 27, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
gotta remember
Most of that 5/56 was 1 half. If they do happen to go to the spread expect at least 3 or 4 100+ yard games. Maybe a 150+ game. I’m not hoping for a Miles Austin fluke kinda games… But I’m thinking he could really approach 800-900 yards receiving by the end of the year. If he can reach those high numbers it will really be a fight between him and Harvin.
It will be hard to overcome to the 2 KR’s for Percy though.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 28, 2009 4:47 AM PDT up reply actions
If by "most"
You mean 3 catches. With Hill, he caught a 4 yard bubble screen and an 18 yarder on the sideline.
So in the first half he was 2/22, second half he was 3/34. Not really anything you wouldn’t expect.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 28, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Not that it really changes everything, persay...
But Smith also completed a 20+ yarder to Crabtree that was called back because of Morgan’s illegal motion.
3/34 against 4/60 is worth noting, I think.
"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan
Good point
But with the wide variation in WR performance throughout the year, it’s still way too early to judge Crabby’s ability to put up even 5/56 on a weekly basis. I hope he does, and that catch that was called back was of the “There’s no way the DB could have stopped that one on one” variety.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 28, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah
the only way crab can get rookie of the year is if alex smith continues to ball like a pro. that is what remains to be seen.
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
Its also about contributions
Winners for rookie of the year have to be considered for not only their numbers, but for their actual contributions to the teams success. So if we make a big run for the playoffs and do something with it, and its because of Crabtree’s presence on the field, I think he could do it.
He's got a long way to go to catch Harvin though.....
He continues to be very productive for the Vikes. Hakeem Nicks has decent WR numbers as well. It’s hard to beat out QB’s but with Sanchez throwing those picks a couple of weeks ago he hurt himself. He’d have to be productive with a lot of game changing catches and TD’s.
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
I agree
I think right now it’s between Sanchez and Harvin and if I had to vote today I’d give it to Harvin.
me too, but...
Harvin does have a propensity to get injured. He’s been mighty impressive—as I expected; I really liked him back during draft season.
Morgan breaks through in 2009!
Been on my fantasy team since draft day
So has Grabtree though. I think Michael has a chance but we’ll need to run the spread with Alex hucking the ball around like crazy and Percy can’t take another kick back. If he has 3 KR’s for a TD in his rookie season I don’t think there’s any way Michael can win unless he plays straight obscene… Makes the next 10 games like Randy Moss’s rookie year.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 28, 2009 4:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Good points by everyone
It’s important to remember that we’re only 6 games in. The guy missed 5, and could easily catch Harvin.
I say the quarterbacks are out of the picture. Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan’s success last year raised the expectations for rookie quarterbacks. Stafford is out of it, and Sanchez will need to play very well to catch Harvin.
That being said, both Crabs and Harvin have 2 primetime games left on the schedule. The Niners play on Thursday night vs. the Bears on 11/12 (of course it’s on NFL Network so I won’t see it) and a Monday night game against the Cardinals. Both games are at Candlestick. Harvin plays on Sunday night in Week 15 and Monday night in Week 16 (both on the road).
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
Stafford isn't out for the year, is he?
He’ll get back into it once he comes back. Harvin definitely has the lead, but that could easily change with a few bad games or good games from the other competitors.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 27, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't mean he was out for the year
I just meant that he hadn’t impressed me even in the games he did play.
How many Biletnikoffs does he have? NOT TWO!
COUGH STREAM COUGH
NFL NETWORK GAMES… COUGH JUSTIN-TV COUGH
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 28, 2009 4:52 AM PDT up reply actions
It's a bit premature to even discuss this considering nobody has stood out.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
Meh
Harvin has scored 4TDs already.
Stafford ended the Lions’ skid.
Sanchise has a nickname, “beat” the Pats, and plays in NYC.
Those three have separated themselves from the crowd, just not each other. Rookies are rarely spectacular.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 27, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
All Day
and P. Willis were pretty spectacular their rookie years
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 28, 2009 4:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I said rare, not never
Find another year with multiple rookies that spectacular. Moss and Clinton Portis were pretty good, to say the least.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 28, 2009 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Harvin...
only has 2 td’s. But anyway I personally think that right now Austin Collie is doing better than Percy Harvin. And he should defiantly be in the Rookie of the Year talk. And I’m not just saying that cause I’m a Colts fan. Look at his numbers….4 td’s 264 receiving yards, he’s averaging 11 yards a catch. Now compare those to Harvin. He has 2 td’s 285 yards and he’s averaging 12.4 yards a catch. Those numbers are really close. So I would include Collie in the RotY talk. Right now he’s looking really good and is showing no signs of slowing down.
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
The thing that sucks is
Mark Sanchez hasn’t played very good but he will probably win rookie of the year because he is a quarterback. I though Joe Flacco was so overrated last season! But this year he has been playing pretty well. Crabs I think does have a chance, but the only way is if he becomes the 49ers number 1 reciever now. By that I mean every game from now on he has to lead the team in catches and yards and eventually touchdowns for this to happen. After watching that first game I believe that can happen because he was awesome for a first gamer.
How many times has Joe Montana thrown an interception in a super bowl?
Could be forgetting Beanie Wells....
…..He has a chance to turn it around if he get’s going this year.
We'll see this week
If he plays well against the colts (he always plays big in big games) he might have a shot at Rookie of the Year.
How do you know
he plays big in big games? I’m really not trying to be a dick about the whole Crabtree thing, but you have seen this guy in ONE game. Just cause he played big in college does not mean he will in the NFL as a rookie or even years to come. You can’t judge an NFL player by the way he played in college. When you get to the pros its a whole new game. Take Ryan Leaf for example…the guy was a stud in college and that obviously did not transfer over to the NFL. He was probably the biggest bust ever. Again..I’m not saying the guy can’t be good, but let him play a little longer before you start crowning him.
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
by coltsfan723 on Oct 31, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
not completely crazy
Actually, I think he might have a reasonable chance IF Smith can get some protection and some time to throw. He has a ton of talent.
What are the odds on that? Are there odds? Might be an interesting bet to make…
Hakeem Nicks anyone?
Nicks leads all rookies in rec. yards and rec TD’s. He also has a sick avg per catch. Let’s not forget the job, I think it’s Monroe, LT/RT in Baltimore, he did extremely well against Jared Allen for a rookie.
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
Michael Oher.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 28, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Didnt he just
get the starting job because of an injury?
How many times has Joe Montana thrown an interception in a super bowl?
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