Ask some Colts fans from Stampede Blue
So 49ers fans, the last time you started Alex Smith against our beloved Colts, we smacked him around and made him wet his pants like the funny little rookie he was! Now, four years later, you send him against us AGAIN!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
OK, in all seriousness, I remember waaaaaaaay back when Smith started his first game. Despite his numbers and the final score, I was impressed with how he conducted himself. I've followed Smith since that game, and I never got the sense he was surrounded by a strong system that helped groom the QB. Mike Nolan was a tool of a head coach, knowing absolutely nothing about offensive football, leaving that area (you know, the area where they score the friggin points) to over-rated coordinators like Mike Martz.
With Nolan gone, and with a more intelligent head coach in Mike Singletary running the show, the environment is now better for Alex Smith to grow. We saw it last week against the Texans, and I think it will continue. This opinion is from a Colts fan who has watched Smith from afar, one day hoping he'd get his chance again. I never like to see good players spoiled by moronic coaching.
Anyway, this FanPost is less about me ranting about Alex Smith and more about you asking me (and other Colts fans and bloggers who will read this) about this Sunday's upcoming game. Please use the comments to ask questions, and folks like me and fellow Colts blogger shake n bake will do our best to answer them.
Looking forward to Sunday's game, and to your comments.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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Colts Fans
Can you describe your new head coaches personality? I lived in Ohio for the past 4 years and heard quite a bit about the colts, but now that I am not going to college there anymore, I haven’t heard a whole lot of Colts Talk. What do you think of him so far? Is he just following Dungy’s philosophy as a head coach or is he starting his own, new style of Colts play?
Also, do any of you think the 49ers have a shot in this game at all? Or do you all think you are gonna walk all over us like you have in the past?
i would say he is a lot like dungy but with less hugs
it seems the Colts are more aggressive on both sides of the ball. Caldwell also seems to hold everyone more accountable for performances, were as dungy seemed to be too loyal. the first move he made when taking over was to let go of Defensive and SP teams coordinators for bad performance.
"I bet Eli doesn't even have one touchdown today, ... I'm the best Manning."
-Peyton Manning
by skip2myluke on Oct 27, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Caldwell
Jim Caldwell is very much cut from the Tony Dungy school of coaching, like Lovie Smith and Mike Tomlin (also Dungy assistants in Tampa Bay). The one difference from Dungy is that Caldwell seems to focus a lot more on accountability. Where Dungy is a bit more patient or loyal to players or coaches who obviously weren’t getting the job done, Caldwell is not so patient. Already, he essentially fired last year’s special teams coach and defensive coordinator, benched the starting SAM (Philip Wheeler), benched the starting left tackle (Tony Ugoh), and cut the starting defensive tackle (Ed Johnson).
So, while he believes in using things like base Tampa-2 as a defensive scheme and not treating players like babies (all Dungy philosophies), Caldwell seems less patient with players and coaches in terms of performance. You either perform well, or you are gone.
For Colts fans, we like that.
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Be Honest:
Are you thinking 19-0?
It’s still a little premature, perhaps, but at what point does the thought of laughing out loud in the faces of Patriots fans seriously cross your minds?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
Actually
I’d be pretty happy to see Manning go 19-0 while all the Patriot fans go boo-hoo-hoo all the way home.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 27, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Pretty happy to a degree....
I ABSOLUTELY wouldn’t want them to have to step over us to do it.
Realistically, though, we’re not their biggest obstacle.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 27, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually...
… agree about the Manning part. I don’t really mind about the Patriots either way, as I actually like Bill Belichick.
I'd love to see the Colts go 19-0 so the Dolphins idiots can shut up lol
"Bar None!" - William Floyd
That is one of my ulterior motivators.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 27, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Although a 9er victory would be lovely
The Colts can afford it. Wayne and Brown are iffy for the game. Looks to be a good matchup if we can pound Manning like we did Warner in week 1. Wishful thinking but I’d rather talk about winning rather than losing lol.
"Bar None!" - William Floyd
Listen, if we win this game I’ll be hanging from the rafters. I won’t know how I got up there, and I won’t know how I’m going to get down, but I’ll be drunk, partially clothed, and singing about how wonderful life is.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 27, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
For the sake of the children
The 49ers must lose…
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Oct 27, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, if we lose the game I plan on drinking even more, so I can’t hold myself accountable for either my actions or my lack of clothing.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 27, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather it be the Saints
So the niners can still win next week, while I’m wishing!
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
Yeah and the pats can go cry
49ers al Grito de Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 28, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
If the 9ers win I will get piss-faced drunk like I've never done it before!
"Bar None!" - William Floyd
No way...
in 2005 we got to 13-0 and the media went nuts. I’d rather lose a game or two during the season and get another SB ring. Just my personal feelings about it, though.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Oct 27, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of the SB
Every year you guys clinch a first round bye and the last couple of games the starters sit. Then you guys come off and have a lackluster performance. Do you think that will happen this year? (Assuming you end up clinching a playoff berth early enough that is).
Also, how have the local media and fans responded to speculation of a Manning vs Manning Super Bowl?
I live in California...
so I’ll leave the local media question to someone who lives in Indy.
There are two camps: let the starters sit and rest (and avoid injury) and have the starters play to stay “in the zone” I’m in the have the starters play camp. We argue over this every year. =-)
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Oct 27, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
It worked for the Giants
the year they won the Super Bowl. I’ve always been in the camp of having starters go out to play.
it’s nice that you guys CAN have that arguement every year
by sleepyotter on Oct 28, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
It's a great problem to have.
I’m not going to deny that.
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Definitely
a quality problem, no doubt.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Oct 28, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
The local media right now
wants another Colts-Pats playoff game, especially if the Colts have to go to The Razor for it. I’m sure they wouldn’t mind a Manning-Manning Super Bowl, but they really want to dust off that rivalry for another go. Those really sell papers.
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But if you go 19-0, then you DO get a Super Bowl ring….
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 27, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
True. It’s getting the 19th win that I worry about.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Oct 27, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
May as well be to us, we're outta conference and the division
Media will call it an off game
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
My fellow Colts fans will have an issue with me
BUT, the Niners are our last NFC game and I’d rather lose this one than a division or conference game tbh.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Oct 28, 2009 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey
I’m liking you more and more. We’ll do our best to accomodate your preference. And mums the word sir!
The future ain't what it used to be.
good point
is there any way you can convince the colts owners/coaches to tank this game and let us win? i mean yall will still go to the superbowl anyway!
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
The thought had crossed my mind,
but I told my brain to shut up until we got to at least 10-0. There are still some pretty good teams left for us to play. There’s a long way to go for that, but I would love to go 19-0 so much.
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No
Been there and done that in 2005. I laugh in the face of Patriots fans all the time. Spygate and Peyton Manning owning them give me plenty of ammo.
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Dear Colts Fans,
You know you guys are prolly gonna be in the AFC Championship game, and we REALLY need this win.
Can you roll over just for this game plz? You’ll still end up 14-2.
Thx!
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
+1
surprised the exact comment i was gna post, had already been posted in 3. nuff said? we can let the blue stampede go home?
by 2ninersonecup on Oct 27, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm sorry.
All requests must be submitted in writing. What? Oh.
Well, all requests also have to be submitted in triplicate. So THERE.
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Sorry
We must beat you. I want a first round bye and home field, and with teams like the Broncos still undefeated, all opponents must go down.
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if he dies...he dies.
STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.
by UnleashTheGore on Oct 28, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
beat me to it lol
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
Well I am the guy who predicts this upset with all seriousness!
Hardest part about it is it’s in Indy(damn) and Peyton may be upset he didn’t throw for 300 last week vs the Scams, I mean Rams. Even though your pass rush has been better than usual during the season, I think with the outsid rush of your DE’s we can execute some successful runs against ya. I can’t get into why I think we will win because it’s one of those wild bets at Vegas type of picks. I’m just Hoping Manning is off and Smith is on fire.
"Optimist Prime"
"Child Please" -Ochocinco
I don't think you are the only one
The 49ers are a good team, and the Colts will certainly not take them lightly.
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last week against the Rams
the DTs played pretty good. Dan Muir is a beast and he will hopefully continue playing like the monster he is. Another thing Im happy about is our DTs are FINALLY starting to get pressure on the QB. Muir actually registered half a sac in that game. So Im hoping we can keep Gore contained. He didnt have a great week last week so Im sure he’s looking to come out and make up for it. The Colts HAVE to be ready!
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
by coltsfan723 on Oct 28, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
the only way we can win
is if the mafia already pulled strings on this game
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
Can we just remember the good times?

Seriously, I’ve always liked your team. Nice uniforms, gives me good vibes. Than again I have a horse shoe pit in my front yard.
Our teams have done good business together too. We collaborated so you guys could draft Tony Ugoh, in return we got Kentwan Balmer. Do you want to swap? Seriously, we’d do it in a heart beat. Even a disappointing backup OT would be a major improvement for us and your team has always had trouble finding interior defensive lineman. Balmer is pretty close to what you already have but it’s still one more body to rotate in to keep the unit fresh. Have your GM call our GM, thanks!
Ugoh's probably on his way out now
(has been a healthy scratch the past few games when Charlie Johnson, the normal LT starter, has been healthy), so sure, we’d take that deal. At least we can get something from Ugoh.
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I'm still holding out hope Ugoh can be a RT or Guard
he does look like he’s regressed, but only as a pass blocker. He still mauled some guys in the run game.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 27, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope you're right,
but as of now, I don’t see it happening.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This video right here has produced one of my favorite lines ever. It was so awesome that there has been 2 sequels. One where you must put a banana in your ear, and another where you must grab their tongues. Purely awesome.
I think Ugoh
would make a good guard…the guy is a pretty good run blocker.
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
by coltsfan723 on Oct 28, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Either Polian has tried it in practice before,
and Ugoh stunk, or he’s not willing to give it a shot. It slightly frustrates me, but it’s hard to complain about Polian unless you’re talking about his personality.
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I was at that game!
And I’m going on Sunday. Hopefully it will be better this year for us.
"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."
IMO
This is one of the most tired and stupid sound clips EVER. I can’t stand it when people, off the cuff, or in whatever context they are speaking try to imitate this. This is one of those things that arises in the synapses of a football fan in conversation that when thought of automatically comes out of their mouth, and zero thought is actually put into themselves thinking before they speak. Same thing, as far as I’m concerned goes for the Denny Green and Allen Iverson clips. There I said it.
Chris Cohan- YOU'RE FIRED!
You’re not the only one.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I like the colts
Spcifically peyton manning. I am a degenerate gambler (proud one too =))
And i have about 2 rules that i always go by. My #1 rule is : NEVER BET AGAINST PEYTON MANNING!!!! i have been gambling for the past 5 years every week consistantly and the colts have won me by far more money then any other team won/lost me. I just wanted to say i will not be betting on the colts this week, however i will not be betting against them either . EVER
That's a pretty good gambling motto.
One of my favorite (from Bill Simmons) is to never bet against your team. So I understand you not putting any money on this game.
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Colts SB chances?
I know the team is off to a hot start but deep down do Colt fans feel this is a SB team? I nod my head when analysts say Peyton Manning covers up a lot of holes and weakness. Other than Peyton being healthy what has changed from this year compared to last to indicate the Colts are again contender?
I’m sorta looking at this this from a late 90’s 49ers perspective. Steve Young could get the team deep into the playoffs but as fans deep down we knew the team was walking into the conference championship game out gunned by another squad.
Who can beat them?
Maybe the Saints but I don’t really think any AFC team can match up with them. I think they beat the Patriots in AFC game especially since with records right now Colts will have home field advantadge. I don’t think they will get by the Saints in SB though.
Steelers? Broncos with their D?
I don’t know, just throwing it out there. I don’t think the Colts are that much of a power house that the CANT be beaten by either one of those two teams
Denver...
reminds me of the 2006 Bears. They have a just-good-enough offense.
...and the Colts stomped them...
Just sayin’. The Steelers still worry me, but right now the Colts are the best in the AFC and it’s not that close. I’m not saying an AFC title is a lock at all, but the road will run through Indy.
by invisibulman on Oct 29, 2009 6:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Exactly what I was implying!
The Colts biggest competitors are the steelers and patriots. And what is Cincinnati doing this year? looking impressive, they could give the colts a run for their money
differences
Last year the Colts starting DTs were 254 and 265lbs and the 300lb backups had joined the team after camp/preseason.
This year the 300lb backups have learned the system and are now the starters with the tiny guys in more appropriate roles (backup DE and rotation/3rd down DT).
Last year MLB Gary Brackett was hurt late in the year causing him to miss the playoff game, and the Colts didn’t have a competent backup for him, leading the Antonio Gates having his best ever day against them, including two 1st down receptions on the Chargers drive that sent the game to OT.
This year Brackett is healthy and the guy who had replaced him for the playoff game is a full time backup MLB rather than a starting OLB who got shifted over in desperation.
Last year under DC Ron Meeks the Colts D was as vanilla as they come.
This year under DC Larry Coyer they are still rather plain compared to most of the year, but mix it up much more than previously.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 27, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't think so at the beginning of the season...
I was really worried about the o-line. I also thought the Steelers would just destroy everyone in the AFC (and they still might.) The line still isn’t great, but Charlie Johnson has been a terrific surprise at LT. Pass protection has been excellent, though run blocking is still an issue. The pass defense has been absolutely dominant. They set records last year and I think it’s fair to argue that they are better in 2009. If the Steelers don’t get on a roll and we avoid the Chargers in the playoffs I think an AFC title is very much within reach.
As for the Super Bowl, I actually like our chances against the Saints. They are a built very much the same way we are, but I think we have more weapons on offense. Plus, never pick against Manning in a shootout. A team like the Giants worries me much more because I think they match up better with their pass rush and power running. However, recent injuries have made that potential contest much more palatable.
by invisibulman on Oct 28, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
thanks for all the info, i've always liked the colts too
What do you guys think if you end up playing Cincinnati in the playoffs? Would that be a concerning match up? Their offense finally seems to be going places, not sure how their defense stands…
by sleepyotter on Oct 28, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
The Colts
kept Cedric Benson in check in the SB in 2006 and I dont think it would be any different now that he’s with Cinci. Their Pass Defense is ranked 28th in the league and that leads me to believe that Peyton would have a hay day throwing against them. They are starting to make threats in their passing game but its still ranked 19th in the league and our Pass D is very good. I think it would be a good game, but I dont think their defense is good enough to handle the Colts offense. But anything could happen
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
by coltsfan723 on Oct 28, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
The Benson in Chicago looked nothing like the Benson in Cincy
Not saying that you guys wouldn’t beat Cincy (I’m sure you would), just that comparing a player as a second year guy to the player he is a few years later is kinda stupid (See: Manning, Peyton).
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 29, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Different O-lines
The 2006 Colts kept 2006 Bears O-line in check; actually completely dismantled them. The Bengals have a better O-line this year than the 2006 Bears line. You may very well demolish Cinci’s line also but you cannot really ever (truly) say you held a RB. If a RB doesn’t do well, it’s most often (9 times outta 10) the line’s fault and or a combination of both.
Bengals don't worry me.
The Achilles heal of the Colts has always been defenses that get pressure and power running games. After losing Odom, the Bengals have neither. Benson has been solid this year, but he’s not a guy who strikes fear into a defense.
by invisibulman on Oct 29, 2009 6:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Much Deeper Team
Defensive backfield is very deep with 3 good/great safeties healthy, and 3 good corners healthy (Marlin Jackson back in a few weeks will make 4). This allows us to be more aggressive defensively. The receiving corps is deeper (slightly banged up at the moment) but Marvin was average last year and our 2nd and 3rd tight ends were essentially rookies. Listed in order; Wayne, Clark, Gonzo, Collie, Robinson, and Garcon are all being capable of playing at a starter level and more experienced back-ups (Baskett, Tamme) we are definitely deeper. O-line has stayed relatively healthy and are starting to gel.
Plus, we have Sorgi and Painter as back-up QBs which makes us deeper than ever at that postiion.
This Colts team
is special…I really believe this is our year. Everyone downplayed us at the begining of the season with the loss of coaches and Marvin Harrison, but this team has come out and is playing better than we have seen a Colt team play in a long time. And on both sides of the ball. All the BS about Peyton covering up the holes is just people trying to find something to talk about. This team is a top tier team all around. Jim Caldwell has taken Dungy’s philosophy and made it better. He’s exactly what this team needed to be great. Caldwell isn’t afraid to make the changes necessary to make this football team the best it can be. The scary thing is the team just keeps getting better. I think we will make a run at another SB.
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
by coltsfan723 on Oct 28, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather call it
Our Year Part II. It has a better ring to it :-)
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He's been starting at clipboard holder this year
I’m assuming that’s what you are talking about. He’s a Pro Bowl contender at that position.
"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."
In all seriousness
do you think he’s going to be a capable QB (for long stretches) should Manning go down, or even when Manning retires (I know, long way off)? A main key to our continued success after Montana was Steve Young… is Sorgi your Steve Young?
(don’t even dare to actually equate Sorgi w/ Steve Young)
Chris Cohan- YOU'RE FIRED!
Absoultly not
I dont even think this team could finish with a winning record if Sorgi had to play. Thats just my opinion but the guys not good. I think the Colts drafted Curtis Painter out of Notre Dame as a project player to start getting him ready to take Mannings place. This is Sorgi’s last year on his contract so I don’t think the Colts will keep him. They carried 3 QB’s on the roster this year and I dont think they will do it again next year. Thats just my opinion
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
*Purdue*
Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis
by hoosier in sodak on Oct 29, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I think there is hope for Painter...
Jim Sorgi is a known quantity and has maximized his talents. At the moment he’s probably a better option than Curtis Painter because he knows the offense. But Sorgi is never going to be a starting QB. Painter on the other hand has the skills to become a good QB in the NFL. He has a long way to go in order to get there, but he has not reached his maximum potential by a long shot. I’m not saying he is the second coming of Steve Young, but I’m saying we don’t know what he have with him. It might be something…
by invisibulman on Oct 29, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I prefer Sorgi over Curtis Painter
But I am the only Colts fan who thinks that. I wouldn’t expect them to make the playoffs though.
"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."
Hey!
What do you mean you’re the only Colts fan who thinks that? I prefer Sorgi to Painter. Sorgi is the better QB right now. I don’t know about the future, but right now I would prefer Sorgi to play over Painter.
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Man, I need a life...
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This video right here has produced one of my favorite lines ever. It was so awesome that there has been 2 sequels. One where you must put a banana in your ear, and another where you must grab their tongues. Purely awesome.
How was big Ed Johnson playing for you when he got cut?
It kind of looks like he got caught in a numbers game, and it seems like the Niners could use another defensive lineman.
They're called RUNS for a reason.
Ya
it’s always great to have more big Johnsons plugging up your holes.
Mischievously implosive purple pitching staff.
by SloIsLonelyForTheOrange on Oct 28, 2009 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Some say Ed was cut...
Because we had 2 big Johnsons in the middle plugging holes and it made people uncomfortable.
This is the midwest ya’ know, not some decadent Californy pervtown like San Franciscy. ;)
by peytonsurdaddy on Oct 28, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
He was listed at 296,
but he was cut because he was overweight and couldn’t take it off. Local media estimated around 15-20 pounds over. That made him fat, slow, and ineffective. Our coach and GM each individually warned him about getting the weight off, but if you guys want to take a chance on him, then be my guest.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This video right here has produced one of my favorite lines ever. It was so awesome that there has been 2 sequels. One where you must put a banana in your ear, and another where you must grab their tongues. Purely awesome.
he was playing fat and slow
but for a team that values bulk over speed he could be useful.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 28, 2009 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions
He could probably fit in
that “2 Fatties in the Middle” D they’re trying over in Tampa Bay.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This video right here has produced one of my favorite lines ever. It was so awesome that there has been 2 sequels. One where you must put a banana in your ear, and another where you must grab their tongues. Purely awesome.
Poorly
Ed was playing poorly. He was out of shape, slow, and not very productive. In four games as a starter, he amassed only 11 tackles. Just this past Sunday, the guy who replaced him as the starter (Daniel Muir) had 7 tackles and 1 sack in one game. Ed was getting outplayed by Muir and Eric Foster. Plus, the Colts really like rookie DT Fili Moala. With Adam Vinatieri needing surgery, and with his recovery not requiring a trip to IR, the Colts had to cut someone.
That someone was the under-performing Ed Johnson.
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Really like Fili Moala?
Since when? He hasn’t been on the active roster for the first 5 games of the season.
Not defending Ed. He was an overweight slacker. Just interested in what’s up with Fili.
by invisibulman on Oct 29, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I think they expected him to be a bit of a project
particularly since he’s coverting back to a 3 tech from a 5 tech his senior year at U$C.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 29, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Colt fans are petty.
We have more super bowl wins than the colts. So screw off no one remember the regular season. Bunch of stuck up colts fans. 9ers are a better franchise.
by 49ers fan in oklahoma on Oct 28, 2009 12:53 PM PDT reply actions
I always heart that Oklahoma had a great educational system...
must have been misinformed.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Oct 28, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
*heard...
apparently California is no better…public education – what’s a person to do? =-)
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Oct 28, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
If you can get through High School, California has a great educational system! It’s just that whole K – 12 area where there is virtually nothing good going on.
Although if Sacramento has anything to say about it, the colleges are going to suck too just as soon as they possibly can.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
Went to UC Irvine after graduating high school. Great program there. And I totally hear you on the current state of the state crisis. Its so frustrating.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Oct 28, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
i love the dodgers and 9ers
but yeah i thank God i didnt grow up in cali. the public school system here makes new york and baltimore even look decent….and thats near impossible….sad
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
DODGERS???
CALI??? RAAAAWRRRR!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm always skeptical of those education stats
Their ripe with political tinkering. My brother in law moved to Washington and says their school systems are far superior but I have my doubts that California is really getting it’s butt kicked by Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi and etc.
I could get into details on these statistics but it dives into the political realm so I digress.
Public K – 12 is really a big fat mess in this state right now. I can’t speak for how bad it is elsewhere, but hoo boy is it struggling in California these days.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not arguing it's great
In short, it’s a border state that deals with difficulty of a Spanish speaking population. It receives one of the lowest amounts of federal dollars per student. Most importantly we are more honest with education stats than other states, drop outs are counted as failures and not stricken from the stats.
+1
I’m lucky to still have a job
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
It’s always nice when somebody makes the perfect case against his own argument simply by opening his mouth. Or in this case typing. Maybe a Colts fan kicked his puppy one time, though.
Although I’ve never met the puppy-kicking Colts fan, myself.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I read that like five times thinking you were trying to argue with me.
I was like “What are you talking about bro?”
One thing leads to another
Then pants start flying and Howie’s running around like Will Farrel trying to get to KFC…
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 28, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, I gots to try me some of that new KGC.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
You think it's open?
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 28, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, I guess it’s not too clear. Was not talking about you at all.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
comments
Do not tell somebody to screw off. There’s absolutely NO need for that.
by David Fucillo on Oct 28, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow...
So where did you poor bastards pick up the ex-Raider fan?
by peytonsurdaddy on Oct 29, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Oklahoma, it would seem.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 29, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
HAHA
Yes, I knew that would get everyone going! I’m trying to make this game intresting! Trying to get a lil fight in my guys! I feel like after reading this we already lost the game. So Fooch and peytonsthebest (nob slober) you all can eat it.
by 49ers fan in oklahoma on Oct 28, 2009 1:16 PM PDT reply actions
LMFAO
“facedesked”
Classic…
Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis
by hoosier in sodak on Oct 28, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
If you want a trash talk thread, there are easier ways to go about getting one.
Or if you just want to waste your time insulting everyone here, there are easier ways for the moderators to deal with that, too.
Also, +reply is your friend.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Oct 28, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Dear Question answer-er
Forgive me if someone asked above, I only had time right now to read through the top ~1/2 of questions, but I want to know about Jacksonville. You guys in the last ~5yrs have always had superior teams to them and they always play you guys tight, if not pull the upset.
What reasons would you attribute to Jacksonville’s relative success against you? Thanks.
Chris Cohan- YOU'RE FIRED!
we have trouble
stopping their rushing attack. Our defense hasn’t been good at stopping the run since DT Tarik Glenn retired. We tried to fix it, but it hasn’t really worked so far. Ed Johnson was the best we have had since Glenn but he got cut basically cause he was to fat (15-20 lbs over) and he couldn’t take it off. He was approached personally by Coach Caldwell and President Bill Polian about the issue but he couldn’t get it off. He actually missed the first game reg. season game due to a suspension that carried over from last season. Jones-Drew is a beast of RB and he usually runs all over the Colts. That has really been the only reason we cant seem to stop them. Freeney and Mathis usually harass Gerard when he tries to pass so I place the blame on our lack of a good rushing defense. Other people might give you a different answer but most will agree with me.
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
Dude!
Tarik was an LT not a DT.
And from above, Painter went to Purdue not Notre Dame!
Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis
by hoosier in sodak on Oct 29, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions
my fault
my mistake…but maybe add input to the guys question? Lol
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
by coltsfan723 on Oct 29, 2009 10:04 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
From another POV
I attributed it to Jax’s physicality on D (mainly), and that they weren’t intimidated by the Colts offense. Knowing the Colts always had a superior team, I thought maybe there was something to the philosophy or match ups presented by Jax that might expose some flaws in the Colts well oiled machine.
I do ‘pick ’em’ pools and have been for years, and I always think twice about outright picks of Indy over Jax.
Thanks.
Chris Cohan- YOU'RE FIRED!
i must say
I ment to say purdue. I was talkin to buddy of mine at work and he was talkin about Jimmy Clousen (sp?) and I guess thats why i said Notre Dame.
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
by coltsfan723 on Oct 29, 2009 10:23 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think you mean Booger, yes?
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Oct 29, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah
i really dont know what I was sayin. Like I said i was talkin to a buddy while commenting and Im not the greatest multitasker in the world. Honest mistake…ill take my lashings and we can move on lol ;)
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
by coltsfan723 on Oct 29, 2009 12:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Well then,
lash, lash. lol
I just wanted to make sure I was on the same page is all.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Oct 29, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
oops I was responding to archie manning. ;-)
I’m not ok with two grown men lashing one another in a public forum. made me shiver with a frightening image.
Well may you shiver no longer
because peytonsthebest is woman ;)
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
is *a* woman
sorry to all the typo nazi’s out there
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
That's me!
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This video right here has produced one of my favorite lines ever. It was so awesome that there has been 2 sequels. One where you must put a banana in your ear, and another where you must grab their tongues. Purely awesome.
lol
I didnt want to point fingers but since you figured it out!
ITS YOU!

Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
i think our game plan into that game got screwed early
by loosing A. Gozalez in an early injury and he being the No 2 WR and wayne drawing double coverage and all the main attention i think Gonzo was a big part of the colts game plan and that big part of the plan got screwed with his unexpected and untouched injury , that i my opinion has much to do with our offense low scoring and the fact that it was the first game you dont expect to use backups on your first season game but im glad the “next man up” played well on that one.
by thebossuzzi on Oct 29, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Nothing exact off hand
But I recall JAX having played Indy tough a number of times in recent years, not just this year.
Chris Cohan- YOU'RE FIRED!
Any given Sunday...
Any team can play way over their heads and pull an upset against a far superior foe. Basically, Jacksonville only gets up for two games per year. Playing the Colts is their Super Bowl. The Colts completely dominated them in the first game this year, but only managed to win by 2. Jacksonville’s size also seems to cause trouble for the Colts. They are huge! … at every position. It’s always a challenge to overcome a motivated team that is fully capable of physically overpowering you at most every position.
by invisibulman on Oct 29, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Questions
What’s your opinion of the new stadium and how do you compare it to the Hoosier Dome (the way I choose to remember it)? Seems most new stadiums, Qwest Field aside, are anticeptic in nature and not as loud or intimidating.
What’s the percentage of your fan base that goes back to the days of Ron Myer & Trudeau or at least Jeff George, versus how many joined the Manning wagon late around 2003?
Other than the Patriots, which AFC team would you most hate to lose to and which would you most want to beat in a playoff game?
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
In my opinion
the answer to your first question I think most fans are happy with the Luke. The crowd noise is still pretty good. I also like the retractable roof and window in the staduim that gives it the outdoors feel.
As far as your 2nd question goes I have no idea. Maybe someone else can help you out with that one. I have personally been a fan since the Jim Harbaugh days. Im only 21 so I dont remeber much from before that.
As far as which other team in the AFC we hate losing to…for me its a toss up between the Steelers and Chargers. Since the Chargers have knocked us out of the playoffs for two straight years I would say I would most want to beat them in the playoffs
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
by coltsfan723 on Oct 29, 2009 12:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm pretty young, and from a NFL no-mans land so I have no shame in admiting that I'm a relatively recent joiner
I’m from/still in Iowa over 300 miles from the nearest NFL stadium so I didn’t grow up with a pro team. Just the Iowa Hawkeyes. I finally jumped full on into the NFL and picked a team when the Colts drafted two of my all time favorite Hawkeyes. The man in my picture on the right, and the great Dallas Clark.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 29, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks to you and coltsfan for answering
And I did not meant to imply that being a recent fan, if you’re young, was a problem. You can’t help when you’re born and what your team is like as you grow up. I was thinking more of people who were teenagers or adults when or shortly after the Colts moved to Indy but didn’t join the fandom until after Peyton won a playoff game.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Thats a lot of the fans whose team
has won a SB in the past decade I think. Like the Pats and Steelers for instance…when I was in high school I noticed A LOT of people jumping on the banwaggon after they won their SB. I just laughed cause I knew their “favorite” team would just change with the next year.
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
this is why its good that te 9ers are losers
cuz when they become good again real fans have the right to be as loud and ignorant as possible; along with being ignant towards all the future 49er bandwagoners that will inevitably come out the woodworks. i cant wait!!!
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
Answers
The RCA Dome was really loud (all natural sound thnxverymuch!) But it was a total dump. The Luke is a much more comfortable venue for watching a game. Personally, I think the building itself is a bit of an eyesore (looks like an aircraft hanger) but a good football venue none the less.
I think a disproportionate number of SBlue posters are of the younger generation (only 26 myself) but I still remember booing Geoff George back in the day. The Colts fanbase has always seemed a bit fair-weather to me, but maybe Manning has changed that.
Teams that I hate losing to the most:
1.) Patriots (they are the evil empire.)
2.) Chargers (seriously, why can’t we beat this team? They aren’t that good!)
3.) Jaguars (mostly because it’s fun to disappoint their obnoxious fans.)
….
….
31.) Saints (Manning’s connection to NO and Brees’ to Purdue. Both are stand up guys.)
32.) Giants (Lil’ Brother’s Team! Plus, we have them to thank for 18 – 1 = EPIC FAIL)
by invisibulman on Oct 29, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
I remember even during the Harbaugh years, I never thought I’d see the Colts be a genuine intimidating team with consistent sellouts of the dome and night game appearances. Now it seems normal. I don’t like how the new stadiums seem to put more premium on sight lines and fan experience instead of noise and intimidation. My fan experience is always great when my team wins. I say that while admitting we Niners need a new stadium because the Stick, despite it’s tremendous history, is a dump, both the stadium and parking lots.
I like your team rankings. Even the most dominant squads always have that one team in the division that gives them matchup issues and one team, usually from the conference, that causes problems that you can’t quite understand. I look forward to our getting back to seeing the league that way. Where we discuss what went wrong during our 12-4 reg season and what we need to improve upon to win the title.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I love Lucas Oil Stadium but I feel like part of me died when they blew up the RCA Dome. I had a lot of great memories in that old piece of crap. Lucas Oil Stadium is amazing and it brought us a Super Bowl, so I can’t complain. I’m just waiting to get those good memories at LOS. So far I’ve only been to two games.
I want to beat the Chargers in the playoffs so badly this year but I’m not sure if they even get in this time around.
"Brett Favre was a man who thought he was retired, but he knew it wouldn't last."
and if they dont get it
not once will you hear me complain about it lol
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
"great memories in that old piece of crap."
Truer words have never been spoken:

Now a proud annoyance on Stampede Blue, 18to88, Indy Football Report, and Phil B's blog.
Man, I need a life...
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This video right here has produced one of my favorite lines ever. It was so awesome that there has been 2 sequels. One where you must put a banana in your ear, and another where you must grab their tongues. Purely awesome.
Chargers?
LOL… True story… as I read that post of yours, ESPN was playing the Jim Mora Coors Light commercial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3-eavMSBnk

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